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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 217
From: dethfdddddh | Posted: 8/26/2005 9:43:03 AM | Message Detail
And sorry to you, RamzaB.
From: HaRRicH | Posted: 8/26/2005 9:43:08 AM | Message Detail
No offense taken; it's all good in the hood.
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Hillary Clinton: We need to treat violent video games the way we treat tobacco or alcohol.
Lewis Black: Namely as valued contributors to our re-election fund.
From: swirldude | Posted: 8/26/2005 9:44:46 AM | Message Detail
I'd still pick Tidus to win the FF SFF over Ramza.
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Knuckles the Echidna's road to the Sc2k5 Title!
Round 2: (2)Squall Leonhart
From: RamzaB | Posted: 8/26/2005 9:45:27 AM | Message Detail
And sorry to you, RamzaB

?

You didn't do anything wrong and have nothing to apologize for, no one expects you to go looking through hundreds of posts to see if you got something that trivial right. That's what insomniacs like myself and HarricH are for. :)
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Theifenburg Uncertainty Principle - Without any witnesses, who's to say what happened? (Place Holder for sig bet with YoYoChamp made 3/24/05)
From: voltch | Posted: 8/26/2005 9:46:30 AM | Message Detail
oh god this means kirby>magus right?
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From: HaRRicH | Posted: 8/26/2005 9:46:44 AM | Message Detail
Who would everybody take between Tidus and Knuckles right now?
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From: DragoonsKill91 | Posted: 8/26/2005 9:46:50 AM | Message Detail
Even though I could still end up with this being the only second round points I lose (yeah if knuckles beats squall and ryu beats bowser, two that seem unlikely at this point) I still feel like my bracket just feel off the face of the earth and died.
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From: Sir Crono | Posted: 8/26/2005 9:47:01 AM | Message Detail
Kirby's percentage in the last hour: 58.86%

He's holdin' steady there.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Contest 2005 Championship
Round 2: (3) Mag...Er...(6) Knuckles the Echidna
From: DragoonsKill91 | Posted: 8/26/2005 9:47:29 AM | Message Detail
At this point knuckels without even thinking...
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From: Shadowdude II | Posted: 8/26/2005 9:47:39 AM | Message Detail
Knuckles easily.
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From: Sir Crono | Posted: 8/26/2005 9:48:01 AM | Message Detail
Well, Tidus did beat Shadow, so I think he could take Knuckles. I don't know if I'd pick him to do so, but it'd be close.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Contest 2005 Championship
Round 2: (3) Mag...Er...(6) Knuckles the Echidna
From: RamzaB | Posted: 8/26/2005 9:48:03 AM | Message Detail
Knuckles, hands down. I'd have been hesitant to pick Tidus even before this match. Knuckles-Kirby would be the one I'm most interested in...
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From: Sir Crono | Posted: 8/26/2005 9:48:36 AM | Message Detail
Kirby would beat Knuckles easily.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Contest 2005 Championship
Round 2: (3) Mag...Er...(6) Knuckles the Echidna
From: jonthomson | Posted: 8/26/2005 9:49:20 AM | Message Detail
From: HaRRicH | Posted: 8/26/2005 5:46:44 PM | #406
Who would everybody take between Tidus and Knuckles right now?

Knuckles without a doubt. Knuckles>>>Shadow, who was always overrated anyway.
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From: The n00b Avenger | Posted: 8/26/2005 9:49:32 AM | Message Detail
Shadow > Knuckles is the one thing that has been shown in that stats that I always disagreed with and thought was funky. But of course, couldn't prove.

With the second consecutive flop on Tidus's end, I think that weird quirk will finally go away.
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"No, you see. Here's the problem. You don't know the history of psychiatry. I do." - Tom Cruise
From: DragoonsKill91 | Posted: 8/26/2005 9:49:38 AM | Message Detail
Well, Tidus did beat Shadow, so I think he could take Knuckles. I don't know if I'd pick him to do so, but it'd be close.

At this point knuckles appears to be clearly stronger than shadow. Even so i'd like to see what his new game does for him next year, if anything.
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From: The n00b Avenger | Posted: 8/26/2005 9:49:59 AM | Message Detail
Well, one of the things. Not THE ONE thing by a long shot >_> <_<
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"No, you see. Here's the problem. You don't know the history of psychiatry. I do." - Tom Cruise
From: Sir Crono | Posted: 8/26/2005 9:50:29 AM | Message Detail
Like I said, I don't necessarily know that I'd pick Tidus to win, but he certainly could.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Contest 2005 Championship
Round 2: (3) Mag...Er...(6) Knuckles the Echidna
From: RamzaB | Posted: 8/26/2005 9:51:18 AM | Message Detail
Really? I can't help thinking Knux has been getting a terrible wrap all these years due to his constant second round meetings with Snake.
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Theifenburg Uncertainty Principle - Without any witnesses, who's to say what happened? (Place Holder for sig bet with YoYoChamp made 3/24/05)
From: Slowflake | Posted: 8/26/2005 9:54:06 AM | Message Detail
Heh, never thought of the Ramza comparison myself. Damn, is Tightass ever weak. Let's not forget how he only got in the 2004 contest because of a technicality either.

Any characters from FF10 who aren't in this contest you'd take over Tidus now?
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From: Shadowdude II | Posted: 8/26/2005 9:55:37 AM | Message Detail
The only FFX character I'd take over Tidus is Auron.
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From: HaRRicH | Posted: 8/26/2005 9:56:03 AM | Message Detail
Maybe over-rated in 2k3, but you'd be hard-pressed to say Shadow was over-rated in 2k4, where he is dead-even with Knuckles in the stats. Tidus beat Shadow in a close match last year too; with or without adjustments, Tidus is expect to get 50.81% on Knuckles last year...yet, if you assume Magus 2k5 = Magus 2k3 and Knuckles 2k3 = 2k4 = 2k5, then suddenly Knuckles is expected to win with 51.82%. Keep in mind that both results could have the winner changed by simple fluctuation, too, and that some of this relies on two-year-old data...

...that'd be a damn good match, heh.
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Hillary Clinton: We need to treat violent video games the way we treat tobacco or alcohol.
Lewis Black: Namely as valued contributors to our re-election fund.
From: jonthomson | Posted: 8/26/2005 9:57:18 AM | Message Detail
From: The n00b Avenger | Posted: 8/26/2005 5:49:32 PM | #415
Shadow > Knuckles... disagreed... couldn't prove.

I'm sure that only came up due to one fluke result anyway. In fact, I'd say Tails would have had a chance to be stronger than Shadow, if Tails wasn't just useless in every respect :-)
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Jon Thomson - MARIO, Samus, SOLID SNAKE, Bowser, CRONO, Squall, Sonic, MEGA MAN
From: Slowflake | Posted: 8/26/2005 9:57:35 AM | Message Detail
I know I'd think twice, no, make that ten times, before picking Tidus over Rikku or Yuna.
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From: MegatokyoEd | Posted: 8/26/2005 9:58:20 AM | Message Detail
I really doubt Shadow is as weak as this is making him look. I'd still say he's indirectly stronger than Knux.
From: Explicit Content | Posted: 8/26/2005 9:58:37 AM | Message Detail
I thought Meg Ryan would at least make this match respectable....

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From: Shadowdude II | Posted: 8/26/2005 9:59:03 AM | Message Detail
In a direct match, I'd pick Tidus over Rikku without thinking.
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From: Slowflake | Posted: 8/26/2005 10:00:03 AM | Message Detail
Yeah, somehow Shadow going from clearly above Knuckles to equal to him to well below him just... feels weird. Although I'll be happy if he really is that weak.

Damn, the Gauntlet ends tomorrow... but I think we're going to have a show. Ryu went 50-50 with Sonic during the night, so I see no reason he couldn't do better against Bowser.
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From: Explicit Content | Posted: 8/26/2005 10:00:03 AM | Message Detail
As for Tidus, in a SFF fest, I'd take Tidus over everyone except for Auron... even if Tidus ends up lower in the stats.

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From: swirldude | Posted: 8/26/2005 10:00:23 AM | Message Detail
In a direct match, I'd pick Tidus over Rikku without thinking.

The most important part ;)
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Knuckles the Echidna's road to the Sc2k5 Title!
Round 2: (2)Squall Leonhart
From: jonthomson | Posted: 8/26/2005 10:02:53 AM | Message Detail
From: Slowflake | Posted: 8/26/2005 6:00:03 PM | #428
Damn, the Gauntlet ends tomorrow... but I think we're going to have a show. Ryu went 50-50 with Sonic during the night, so I see no reason he couldn't do better against Bowser.

I'd love to see that. I'd love to see Ryu win, he's one of my favourites in the contest, and I think I have him getting to the final in my favourites bracket. I don't care that my bracket says Bowser. There's only two ways I can lose the gurus contest and I can't win prizes anyway. Plus, Ryu/Kirby would be a better match than Bowser/Kirby.
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Jon Thomson - MARIO, Samus, SOLID SNAKE, Bowser, CRONO, Squall, Sonic, MEGA MAN
From: RamzaB | Posted: 8/26/2005 10:03:29 AM | Message Detail
Actually, I'd think SFF would work against Tidus, since given a choice between Tidus and the other 3 FFX characters, I'd vote for the other 3 easily. Tidus in general is not the most likable character.
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From: HaRRicH | Posted: 8/26/2005 10:05:01 AM | Message Detail
Auron's the only one I'd give Tidus a chance at head-to-head; Rikku and Yuna have two great-selling big-name FF games to their names as opposed to Tidus's one, and decent-lookin' women will get more votes from a male-oriented site like this from people who haven't played the games than a feminine-lookin' man. I wouldn't expect Tidus to get embarrassed, but I wouldn't expect him to win against either of them...

...then, for Auron, I've simply decided Auron's out of Tidus's reach to do much about.
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Hillary Clinton: We need to treat violent video games the way we treat tobacco or alcohol.
Lewis Black: Namely as valued contributors to our re-election fund.
From: Applekidjosh | Posted: 8/26/2005 10:12:21 AM | Message Detail
Heh, never thought of the Ramza comparison myself. Damn, is Tightass ever weak. Let's not forget how he only got in the 2004 contest because of a technicality either.

What is this technicality? I've never heard this one.
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From: HaRRicH | Posted: 8/26/2005 10:15:44 AM | Message Detail
I assume he's talkin' about Sora belonging to Disney and Tidus being the lowest-seeded Square character.
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Hillary Clinton: We need to treat violent video games the way we treat tobacco or alcohol.
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From: Heroic Viktor | Posted: 8/26/2005 10:31:05 AM | Message Detail
Not sure if this was already mentioned or not, but this is the contest of SSB:M. Luigi's giant gain, Kirby's apparent giant gain, Zelda's throttling of Vivi, Samus' wasting of Frog; Ganon and Bowser's hammering (Spring included) It is not Nintendo-specific; it is SSB:M specific.

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From: Heroic Viktor | Posted: 8/26/2005 10:32:05 AM | Message Detail
And as such, expect Bowser to perform very Sonic-like tomorrow by making a run at 55%.

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From: Heroic Viktor | Posted: 8/26/2005 10:32:54 AM | Message Detail
And finally, for those of us (myself included) having anyone not named Samus or Mario winning the main bracket... better luck next year.

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From: Shadowdude II | Posted: 8/26/2005 10:34:40 AM | Message Detail
Nice triple-post, tnote.

And I think it's been mentioned.. though Snake beating Zelda 54-45 looks pretty good for him.
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From: jonthomson | Posted: 8/26/2005 10:36:42 AM | Message Detail
From: Heroic Viktor | Posted: 8/26/2005 6:31:05 PM | #436
Not sure if this was already mentioned or not, but this is the contest of SSB:M. Luigi's giant gain, Kirby's apparent giant gain, Zelda's throttling of Vivi, Samus' wasting of Frog; Ganon and Bowser's hammering (Spring included) It is not Nintendo-specific; it is SSB:M specific.

And Ness>CJ. And DK>MC (well, we can hope)
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Jon Thomson - MARIO, Samus, SOLID SNAKE, Bowser, CRONO, Squall, Sonic, MEGA MAN
From: Heroic Viktor | Posted: 8/26/2005 10:37:13 AM | Message Detail
Yeah, well, I was not aiming for the triple post. I just kept quickposting before finishing my thoughts.

And as a sidenote, the fact that over 10% of people think Kirby is better than Tidus makes me look for a sharp object to just end it all.

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From: swirldude | Posted: 8/26/2005 10:41:35 AM | Message Detail
Not sure if this was already mentioned or not, but this is the contest of SSB:M. Luigi's giant gain, Kirby's apparent giant gain, Zelda's throttling of Vivi, Samus' wasting of Frog; Ganon and Bowser's hammering (Spring included) It is not Nintendo-specific; it is SSB:M specific.

Of course it's SSBM specific! It's not like every Nintendo character in the contest is in SSBM! Oh wait...
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Knuckles the Echidna's road to the Sc2k5 Title!
Round 2: (2)Squall Leonhart
From: kungfu chicken | Posted: 8/26/2005 10:43:51 AM | Message Detail
in all of your opinions what percantage would kirby have if kirbys canvas curse never came out?
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current goty:Advance wars duel strike
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From: voltch | Posted: 8/26/2005 10:47:07 AM | Message Detail
alright next year let's drop the FFX characters apart from auron since he'll be in KHII and let's get bahamut in. that dragon is popular with the fans from all FFs and he's a dragon so dungeons and dragons fans vote for him as well. not to mention DBZ fans who also like dragons.
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From: kungfu chicken | Posted: 8/26/2005 10:48:55 AM | Message Detail
bahamuts only problem would be with pictures, which one would we uses? hes different in every game. And in some games has multiple versions.
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current goty:Advance wars duel strike
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From: MegatokyoEd | Posted: 8/26/2005 10:49:38 AM | Message Detail
Knowing CJay he'd find some way to say Bahamut doesn't count.
From: lettuce Kefka | Posted: 8/26/2005 10:50:13 AM | Message Detail
I'd love to see Bahamut in this, I'd guess he'd be quite strong, too.
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From: TheCruelAngel | Posted: 8/26/2005 10:51:03 AM | Message Detail
Nominate Bahamut from FFVII. He'd beat everyone not Link/FFVII.

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From: Dark115 | Posted: 8/26/2005 10:52:25 AM | Message Detail
Nominate Bahamut from FFVII. He'd beat everyone not Link/FFVII.

Oooh ooh nominate Bahamut Zero
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From: lettuce Kefka | Posted: 8/26/2005 10:53:52 AM | Message Detail
I'm thinking Bahamut could beat some of the "Noble Nine" if he could get in. I could easily see him being stronger than someone like Aeris, and he's in more of the FF games so therefore has a wider appeal.
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