last ten minutes: Sora with 61.4%

yikes.
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yeah, I'd probably take Alucard over DK, but I'd at least consider it. I think Alucard is slowly dropping due to having essentially no games over the last seven or eight years. I'd place him at around 25 or 26%.
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PS2 fanboys?

One among a thousand voters, perhaps...

What? That's awfully few, considering how badly sony owns nintendo/microsoft in the polls.


That's because Jill dropped, not because Ryu is strong.

Yes, that would be more reasonable than Aerith - Sora SFF.



I don't play KH for the action, but I did that for MGS.

If you want action, you go for platforming or FPS games, not RPG's.

I don't like action, I don't like KH. I like MGS because I play it stealth.


Those who like Sora more will vote Sora, those who like Snake more will vote Snake, there's nothing more to it.

Actually, if all the voters had played both KH and MGS I think Snake would break 65%. I think the SFF will favour him.

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There's no way DK beats Alucard. He could take down the Chief in a few days and I still wouldn't consider putting him over Alucard.
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What? That's awfully few, considering how badly sony owns nintendo/microsoft in the polls.

I like the PS2 more than the rest, but I won't vote for chars I don't know just because their games are on the PS2.

And almost every gamer owns (or at least played) a PS/PS2 these days, so by your definition almost every single gamer is a Sony fanboy.

Yes, that would be more reasonable than Aerith - Sora SFF.

Sora could've increased between 2k3 and 2k4, who knows?

I don't like action, I don't like KH. I like MGS because I play it stealth.

So, you're a MSG fan and along with others will vote for Snake, your point?

Actually, if all the voters had played both KH and MGS I think Snake would break 65%. I think the SFF will favour him.

You're getting ridiculous here, not everyone likes badass chars like Snake more then Sora.

Some might like angsty teens like Sora more!

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would you take Alucard over MC?
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Sora's percentage in the last 30 minutes: 58.66%

He's really going up, and fast.
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sora is pretty much underrated cause he lives in the shadow of the square titans
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so much for 52-48, huh?

Alucard is going to look like a weak bastard after Snake beats up on Sora. (or SFFs him, if you're insane.)
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Yeah, I certainly didn't expect Sora to dominate with the day vote like he has. It's very impressive. He should finish with at least 55% and maybe come close to 56% by the end. Considering what Ganon did merely a year ago, that's impressive.
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MC would beat Alucard, though i hate to admit it
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Nah, Alucard wins that match, for sure. MC, if he's lucky, is equal to his 2k3 number (he appears to em to actaully be lower!) and the whole Frog = LS = MC doesn't actually look good for him any more. Alucard would have beaten the Chief two years ago and he'd beat him now.
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I told you Sora is slowly becoming a beast in terms of popularity... With Kingdom Hearts set to sell big during the holiday season, he may get even stronger. As long as he has the Disney connection and Square advertises it well, he always has the potential to draw in new fans...

"OMG, MULAN! OMG CAPTAIN JACK SPARROW!"
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Seeing how Samus dominated Frog that easily, I'd take Alucard over MC in a jiffy.

Yeah I'm pretty sure Alucard could get atleast 30% on Samus.

well, Samus got 65% on Sora as well.
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35% is still a lot better than failing to break 30.
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well, Alucard would only be projected to get 30-31%, depending how this match ends. also, I don't think anyone would take Frog over MC now.
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DK is one of the lamest video game characters ever conceived.

I really don't care if MC beats him into the ground.

It'll still be interesting to see how the match goes down, though.
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Sora. Increased.

Stop. Using. Static. Sora.
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I think Sora increased.. but not a lot. 30%, maybe. Snake will tell us more.
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*Sigh* Stupid Alucard.. why in the world did I pick him to win? ...Go Sora.
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Anyone else going for the possibility that Sora will perform better verses Snake than Zelda? Especially if it's a sprite round. ^_-
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Anyone else going for the possibility that Sora will perform better verses Snake than Zelda? Especially if it's a sprite round. ^_-

Solid **** performs properly against Ryu though, Frog was an exception.

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I like the PS2 more than the rest, but I won't vote for chars I don't know just because their games are on the PS2.

Well there are people that would.


And almost every gamer owns (or at least played) a PS/PS2 these days, so by your definition almost every single gamer is a Sony fanboy.

I don't recall ever defining the term Sony fanboy. I said Sony fanboy when I actually meant PS2 fanboy, hence the "Sony fanboy, as in PS2 fanboy". I don't know where you're getting that from.


Sora could've increased between 2k3 and 2k4, who knows?

For no particular reason?


So, you're a MSG fan and along with others will vote for Snake, your point?

What you forgot already?? MGS differs from KH much like KH does from FF. action/stealth =/= action RPG =/= RPG.


You're getting ridiculous here, not everyone likes badass chars like Snake more then Sora.

Some might like angsty teens like Sora more!

Yeah, some.

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Sora...is angsty...?
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Snake > Aeris > Sora...this was established long ago.
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Yay! 55%! ^_^
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I don't recall ever defining the term Sony fanboy. I said Sony fanboy when I actually meant PS2 fanboy, hence the "Sony fanboy, as in PS2 fanboy". I don't know where you're getting that from.

PS2 fanboys, if any, would be one in a thousand voters at most.
They don't matter.

For no particular reason?

Would you rather take him getting SFF'ed into the ground for no particular reason?
Oh, wait, you believe SFF happened in every single match...

What you forgot already?? MGS differs from KH much like KH does from FF. action/stealth =/= action RPG =/= RPG.

Think for a second will you, who does each char appeal to?
It doesn't matter how many people has played both games, what matters is how similar their appeal is.
And even their games appeals to completely different audiences.

Now, look at Crono vs. Magus, they're from the same damn game, yet the SFF between them is minimal.
Why? Because they appeal to different kinds of people.

There will be NO SFF between Snake and Sora, period!

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Snake's not as strong as he was then (well, he wasn't last year anyway. Aeris would've given him a fight last year), and Sora seems to have increased. Even basing Alucard on his 2003 number, Sora should've only gotten around 52% here. He's past 55% now.
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dammit, I thought this Snake/Sora thing died four or five times by now. you guys are ruining mnm's stat topic.
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oh, and how come only Sora can increase? why can't Alucard decrease?
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I SFF-voted Sephiroth over Liquid because I would vote Liquid over everyone else except Cloud, Auron, Squall, Tidus, Solid Snake and Ocelot.

Then why'd you vote for Sephiroth?

I'm seriously ready for this argument to end after this question's answered, myself.
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The whole snake-sora argument needs to stop. Neither one of you are going to change your opinions, so just wait for the match to prove you wrong or right....
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A Sora increase is more logical, as he had new game and also has an other new game in the making.
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And Sora breaks 55%. What a freakin' day BEAST!

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The funny thing here is how square is generally known for doing well with the night vote, not the day vote.
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oh, and how come only Sora can increase? why can't Alucard decrease?

It seems like the more probable reason. Alucard could decrease, but a Sora increase is more likely, at least in my opinion.
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yeah, and Alucard has nothing and hasn't for a number of years. it makes sense that he'd slowly decrease.

I think Sora increased as well, but it's probably not all Sora. I guess I just think less of Alucard than you guys do.
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30% increase for Sora? You're talking about going up to 30%, right? Because increasing in strength by 30% would put Sora at Mario's level.

Further more, this is only going a little bit better for Sora than using 2k3 Alucards vs. 2k4 Sora. By the end of the match if we assumed Alucard constant since 2k3 then Sora increases about 1.5%. Really, you anti-X stats people are going too far with your insanity there. There are limits to the stats, I've been championing that possition since before most of you even found the CSaD (or even before it was called that), and I still know they hold a good deal of relevance when you take things into proper consideration. Frankly speaking, that's how I knew from the very start that this match was a given, and if I were to have made a guess at this I'd have gone 45-55 (which, with some luck, it could still end thta way). Just because you don't know how to use the X-Stats and just because you blindly accepted them at face value when the very people who made them would not does not mean that they have failed.
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30% on BL, yeah.
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yeah, and Alucard has nothing and hasn't for a number of years. it makes sense that he'd slowly decrease.

Eh, it doesn't bother Crono or Kefka. If Alucard can still be this strong after a while, it's easy to say that he has aged well.
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those are RPG characters - they age better. Alucard is from a platforming title. in five years, do you think Kratos is going to be as strong as he showed this year? that's the best comparison I can think of.
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If Kratos keeps gettin' new games, then definitely.
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"30% on BL, yeah."

That's reasonable, at first I thought you meant a 30% increase which would be well beyond ridiculous. Of course, I think Sora was still a tad underrated last year for some odd reason and that KH is just more well accepted than before. I mean, hell, last year there was only one KH character in the contest and now we've seen 3. I'm thinking that perhaps people are starting to liek the game for what it is and not for what FF characters they can expect to see in it.
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Kairi for 06!
Please?
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yeah, the key is new games. Alucard doesn't have any. if he gets a PS3 Castlevania title or something, I think he'd have a nice resurgence. otherwise, he might fade into obscurity.

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Actually, you make me thnk you've never played the game if you off-handedly call it a platformer. SotN has many RPG elements added in, as well as the fact that it more resembles Metroid than a standard platformer. It's really not a good genre to put it in. That said, there have been many Castlevania games since keeping the old SotN fans coming back to GF year after year, even if Alucard isn't getting much screen time.
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oh, I've played SOTN. (and I like it, if you think I have some bias against it.) I knew someone would say that; I know it has RPG elements. but to call it an RPG? RPGs have character development and story and all that - Alucard has little to none of that. you could play SOTN and not know Alucard's name and it wouldn't change the game whatsoever.
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Alucard is old enough that anyone who would forget him would have done so already.

All he has left is his hardcore fans who wouldn't forget about him for decades to come.

He's a weaker version of Crono so to speak.

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