"The heart may be weak, and sometimes it may even give in. But I've learned that deep down, there's a light that never goes out! "

*Creativename's websites*

Everything you could ever imagine:
http://www.sc2k5.com
http://www.sc2k4.com

Summer 2002 Contest Information:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/taxonomy/term/1

Summer 2003 Contest Information:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/taxonomy/term/2

Spring 2004 Contest Information:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/taxonomy/term/3

Summer 2004 Contest Information:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/taxonomy/term/4

Summer 2005 Contest Information:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/taxonomy/term/5

Sortable Table for Every Contest Match:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/19



*Extrapolated Standings*

Explanation of Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/11

Simple Explanation of Extrapolated Standings:
A = Strongest Character
B = Character Weaker than A
C = Character Weaker than B
To figure out a character's Xsts Percentage ---> [(CvB)(BvA)]/50 = CvA
To compare how C would do against B ---> [(CvA)/(BvA)]*50 = CvB
To figure out how B would do against A ---> [(CvA)/(CvB)]*50 = BvA

Summer 2002 Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/13

Summer 2003 Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/14

Spring 2004 Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/15

SFF Adjusted Spring 2004 Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/16

Summer 2004 Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/17

SFF Adjusted Summer 2004 Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/18

Spring 2005 Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/27

All Time Extrapolated Standings:
http://www.freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/alltimexsts.htm



*Solarshadow's Sites*

Summer 2002 Contest:
http://solarshadow2002.tripod.com

Summer 2003 Contest:
http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com/2003/index.html

Spring 2004 Contest: (not currently updating)
http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com/sp2004/index.html



*Old Stats topics*

Summer 2002 Contest:
http://solarshadow2002.tripod.com/page1.html

Summer 2003 Contest:
http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com/archive/topic1p1.html
http://www.angelfire.com/games5/sum_contest/Page1.htm (See note)

2003-2004 Off-Season:
http://membres.lycos.fr/shindohikaru/stats1.htm (See note)
Note: Don't use the links in the topic to browse through the pages, change the page number in the URL.

Spring 2004 Pre-Season (Chance the number after "Season" to view other pages; there are three of them):
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringPreSeason1.htm

Spring 2004 Contest (Change the number after "Stats" to view other pages; there are eight of them):
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringStats1.htm



*Match Pictures*

All the match pics, save for three from 2002:
http://www.sc2k5.com/gallery/index.php



*Miscellaneous*

Creativename's Page of Links:
http://sc2k4.com/links.php

MMXcalibur's Contest Sites:
http://prophetchallenge.hyperboards2.com/index.cgi
http://www.freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/

A List of Acronyms, A Lesson on Percentages, and Some Odd Matches:
http://www.freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/acronymspercentsanomalies.htm

Poll Vote Total Updater:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/25

All Time Top 25/Top 10 Lists:
http://www.rpgdl.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3251

!yawa tsoP
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MM are my INITIALS "There are only 10 kinds of people in this world, those that read binary and those that don't."

The plan never fails
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Mega Man over Mario in the finals. BOOK IT!

Ok can someone tell me why when people talk about Alucard,they say something about a plan?I haven't play Castlevania games so I don't know.
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GameFaqs is NOT the place to go for relationship advice.Nobody here gets any action unless it is their right or left hand.Including me.~Dawn and Dusk~

Best quote ever. <3
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I know what I'm getting into, I don't care if I die trying!-Peppita Rossetti

Push Sora, towards 55%!

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RIP: Tnote827 - 4/4/2005
SC2k5 - 39/42 (Kefka, Magus, Ocelot)

Ah, the lameness that is Sora, and the lack of taste that is partystar loving that quote.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Contest 2005 Championship
Round 2: (3) Mag...Er...(6) Knuckles the Echidna

The plan failed to take into account sora's big feet... >_>
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"The Lotus in Konoha blooms twice..." Rock Lee

Bah, the first 2 point loss for my bracket, and it won't be the last.

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Reserved for the winner of the SC2K5 Guru Challenge.

man, Sora's a dork. that quote proves it.

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http://picturesofwalls.com

Hey, you couldn't do much better with the whole heart and darkness themes being forced upon you. <_<
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MM are my INITIALS "There are only 10 kinds of people in this world, those that read binary and those that don't."

You know who this match makes really look weak.... Auron.
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Leon's Quest For Ultimate Glory:
1. Gordon Freeman; 2. Mega Man

Does Sora has any change against Snake after watching today's match?
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GameFaqs is NOT the place to go for relationship advice.Nobody here gets any action unless it is their right or left hand.Including me.~Dawn and Dusk~

YES! My first 500 post in the stats topic. and a damn good one also!

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"Life...Dreams...Hope...Where'd they come from? And where are they headed...? These things...I'm going to destroy!!" -Kefka

to consolefreak:

If you think Sephiroth (Square) can SFF Liquid (MGS), how can Snake SFF Sora? By that logic, Sora would SFF Snake.
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I know what I'm getting into, I don't care if I die trying!-Peppita Rossetti

Let's continue the Snake-Sora SFF debate here.

So Heroic Viktor, you deny SFF in Sephiroth > Liquid? Do you know that means Pac-Man > Frog?
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even when a pawn becomes a queen, it's still just a playing piece -President Johnson, MGS2. SC2k5: 39/42. Today: Sora, tomorrow: Tidus

No, I take Zelda > Alucard everyday of the week.
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Leon's Quest For Ultimate Glory:
1. Gordon Freeman; 2. Mega Man

Why do people keep saying handhelds can't help with popularity?

Felix and FFTA both finished in the top half of the bracket in their respective contests.
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"I don't like it when people I don't like get what they want."--Janelle

[This message was deleted at the request of the original poster]

If you think Sephiroth (Square) can SFF Liquid (MGS), how can Snake SFF Sora? By that logic, Sora would SFF Snake.

FFVII gets SFF on everyone (if there's SFF) (Aeris - Sora).

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even when a pawn becomes a queen, it's still just a playing piece -President Johnson, MGS2. SC2k5: 39/42. Today: Sora, tomorrow: Tidus

Consolefreak are you trying to use the Spring stats now? You do know that makes 'Dorf (and Sora, Auron, and Yuna in the process) ridiculously strong.
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Leon's Quest For Ultimate Glory:
1. Gordon Freeman; 2. Mega Man

I assumed he was joking. At least, I hope so.
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"No, you see. Here's the problem. You don't know the history of psychiatry. I do." - Tom Cruise

so how strong will snake be with MGS4,MGS3:Subsistence and MGA2?
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Kilroy:There fate will be in each other's hands as they decide whether to share or to shaft

I have said since day one I put 0 (Z-E-R-O) faith in the spring stats in relation to summer performance. Two completely different settings. Well, I guess I cannot say zero, since I followed it for Ocelot, but that just further proved to me that the title 'villains' contest did something screwy with the voting trends. See Kefka 70, Wesker 30.

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RIP: Tnote827 - 4/4/05
Fighting Illini (37-2): #2 in the nation, #1 in our hearts

I mean, if you're willing to slap a SFF irregularity on any ole character from the same platform then there's not even any point to having XP stats in the first place.
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"No, you see. Here's the problem. You don't know the history of psychiatry. I do." - Tom Cruise

Stronger than he is now probably. I seriously like to see a post-TP Ganondorf vs a post-MGS4 Snake.
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Leon's Quest For Ultimate Glory:
1. Gordon Freeman; 2. Mega Man

I still doubt Sony fanboys even like Sora that much.
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I know what I'm getting into, I don't care if I die trying!-Peppita Rossetti

The Spring Contest has actually proved to be a fair barometer so far.
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www.SC2K5.com
www.sc2k5.com/gallery

anyone notice how cloud is the opposite of CATS? he always starts like crap but gains a lot during the match as opposed to cats who has the best start ever but loses loads as the match progresses
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Kilroy:There fate will be in each other's hands as they decide whether to share or to shaft

Consolefreak are you trying to use the Spring stats now? You do know that makes 'Dorf (and Sora, Auron, and Yuna in the process) ridiculously strong.

No, actually. You're thinking about Sephiroth declining (which I would agree on), when that has nothing to do with it. The Spring contest, regardless of anyone's strength in comparison to Sephiroth accurately predicts Ocelot > Liquid.

Ocelot lost to Pac-Man in the 2k5 summer contest, Liquid lost to Frog in the 2k4 summer contest.

I understand how you shouldn't take the spring contest into account, certain characters overperformed tremendously (Bowser, Ganondorf) while others did the exact opposite (Sephiroth). However, Ocelot overperforming and Liquid underperforming is hard to believe -- they're from the same series.

No SFF in Sephiroth > Liquid predicts Pac-Man > MC.
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even when a pawn becomes a queen, it's still just a playing piece -President Johnson, MGS2. SC2k5: 39/42. Today: Sora, tomorrow: Tidus

Ryu > Bowser
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Summer 2005 Contest - 38/42 points
Current Match Prediction: Alucard vs. Sora

I assumed he was joking. At least, I hope so.

Is that your argument? I was looking forward to a serious debate. It seems you are incapable of participating in such a cause.
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even when a pawn becomes a queen, it's still just a playing piece -President Johnson, MGS2. SC2k5: 39/42. Today: Sora, tomorrow: Tidus

I have said since day one I put 0 (Z-E-R-O) faith in the spring stats in relation to summer performance. Two completely different settings. Well, I guess I cannot say zero, since I followed it for Ocelot, but that just further proved to me that the title 'villains' contest did something screwy with the voting trends. See Kefka 70, Wesker 30.

I agree completely, but you're not following my logic. Read what I said 2 posts back.

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even when a pawn becomes a queen, it's still just a playing piece -President Johnson, MGS2. SC2k5: 39/42. Today: Sora, tomorrow: Tidus

Yech... -9 now...

Still, I love having an upset ridden bracket, I'm so totally still in this... heh heh.
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Raiden fact of the post: If Raiden were here, the plan would be going more smoothly.

So you would take Yuna to be stronger than Tidus?
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Leon's Quest For Ultimate Glory:
1. Gordon Freeman; 2. Mega Man

So how bad are the vote totals in this match (in comparison to others)?
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Summer 2005 Contest - 38/42 points
Current Match Prediction: Alucard vs. Sora

That question was to creativename by the way.
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Leon's Quest For Ultimate Glory:
1. Gordon Freeman; 2. Mega Man

Serious debate? Please, if someone wants to argue whether the Earth is flat or round, I'm not going to argue, I'm going to ridicule.
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"No, you see. Here's the problem. You don't know the history of psychiatry. I do." - Tom Cruise

consolefreak, if you think there's SFF in Seph > Liquid, then you might as well stick SFF in every single damn match!

There is absolutely NO SFF whatsoever between Seph and Liquid, it's just Seph being his usual inconsistent self.

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Reserved for the winner of the SC2K5 Guru Challenge.

would anyone take mario over samus without thinking after mario128?
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Kilroy:There fate will be in each other's hands as they decide whether to share or to shaft

I still doubt Sony fanboys even like Sora that much.

Exactly.

I mean, if you're willing to slap a SFF irregularity on any ole character from the same platform then there's not even any point to having XP stats in the first place.

How often have they failed us? SFF is the same concept as transitivity. Are you assuming transitive voting in nearly every match?

So you would take Yuna to be stronger than Tidus?

No, Newlib. I wouldn't. I wouldn't relate the spring stats to the summer stats. I would, however, relate Ocelot to Liquid as they are from the same series. Ocelot > Liquid in the spring. Liquid > Ocelot 2 months later? Doubtful, Newlib. Very doubtful.


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even when a pawn becomes a queen, it's still just a playing piece -President Johnson, MGS2. SC2k5: 39/42. Today: Sora, tomorrow: Tidus

It depends if Mario 128 ever comes out and what happens with Samus before that.
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Leon's Quest For Ultimate Glory:
1. Gordon Freeman; 2. Mega Man

would anyone take mario over samus without thinking after mario128?

No, at least not me.

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Reserved for the winner of the SC2K5 Guru Challenge.

Consolefreak, I was asking it to creativename was said that the Spring contest has been a fair barometer so far.
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Leon's Quest For Ultimate Glory:
1. Gordon Freeman; 2. Mega Man

Serious debate? Please, if someone wants to argue whether the Earth is flat or round, I'm not going to argue, I'm going to ridicule.

It's funny, becauce you're denying the existence of SFF in Snake - Sora, when I will be SFF-voting Snake.

Do you know someone who can reach the end of the world? Do you know someone who can drop off the world? Comparing this debate to the shape of the earth is funny, but quite irrelevant and simply wrong.
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even when a pawn becomes a queen, it's still just a playing piece -President Johnson, MGS2. SC2k5: 39/42. Today: Sora, tomorrow: Tidus

From: NewLib | Posted: 8/25/2005 2:49:42 PM | Message Detail | #034
So you would take Yuna to be stronger than Tidus?

Tidus' strength is unclear, but if you're talking about doubting Ganon's Spring strength, I really wouldn't think he'd be much below it. He might be overrated by a point or two but that's about it.
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www.SC2K5.com
www.sc2k5.com/gallery

There is SFF in every match, its just I doubt think Sora/Snake is going to have any real meaningful SFF.
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Leon's Quest For Ultimate Glory:
1. Gordon Freeman; 2. Mega Man

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this is silly. of course some people like both characters. example: my favourite platforming series is Metroid, while my favourite RPG series is Shadow Hearts. why, it must be Yuri/Samus SFF!

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http://picturesofwalls.com

The XP stats for what they try to do is actually fairly consistent. For the whole idea of what they try to accomplish, they're quite competent. Of course, there are idiots who do not understand their purpose, misuse them, and then condemn them when they're "TOTALLLY WRONG OMG !!!!"

Because of the system of loose ranges that naturally go with the XP stats that automatically take into account fluctuations caused by "minor sff", true SFF is only considered when it makes a difference such as the case of Mario VS. Bowser, Ganondorf Vs. Link, Link Vs. Yoshi, etc.

Going beyond that and trying to account for the minor SFF that could theoretically occur in every match is frivoulous, and makes compiling a system of XP stats completely worthless.
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"No, you see. Here's the problem. You don't know the history of psychiatry. I do." - Tom Cruise

*wakes up*

...Ugh.
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The King of all Cosmos' route to summer victory:
Round 1: (0) Voters