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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 213
From: LeonhartForever | Posted: 8/23/2005 1:46:21 AM | Message Detail
HAPPY BIRTHDAY, SQUALL LEONHART! Hurray!

*Creativename's websites*

Everything you could ever imagine:
http://www.sc2k5.com
http://www.sc2k4.com

Summer 2002 Contest Information:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/taxonomy/term/1

Summer 2003 Contest Information:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/taxonomy/term/2

Spring 2004 Contest Information:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/taxonomy/term/3

Summer 2004 Contest Information:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/taxonomy/term/4

Summer 2005 Contest Information:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/taxonomy/term/5

Sortable Table for Every Contest Match:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/19



*Extrapolated Standings*

Explanation of Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/11

Simple Explanation of Extrapolated Standings:
A = Strongest Character
B = Character Weaker than A
C = Character Weaker than B
To figure out a character's Xsts Percentage ---> [(CvB)(BvA)]/50 = CvA
To compare how C would do against B ---> [(CvA)/(BvA)]*50 = CvB
To figure out how B would do against A ---> [(CvA)/(CvB)]*50 = BvA

Summer 2002 Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/13

Summer 2003 Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/14

Spring 2004 Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/15

SFF Adjusted Spring 2004 Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/16

Summer 2004 Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/17

SFF Adjusted Summer 2004 Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/18

Spring 2005 Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/27

All Time Extrapolated Standings:
http://www.freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/alltimexsts.htm



*Solarshadow's Sites*

Summer 2002 Contest:
http://solarshadow2002.tripod.com

Summer 2003 Contest:
http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com/2003/index.html

Spring 2004 Contest: (not currently updating)
http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com/sp2004/index.html



*Old Stats topics*

Summer 2002 Contest:
http://solarshadow2002.tripod.com/page1.html

Summer 2003 Contest:
http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com/archive/topic1p1.html
http://www.angelfire.com/games5/sum_contest/Page1.htm (See note)

2003-2004 Off-Season:
http://membres.lycos.fr/shindohikaru/stats1.htm (See note)
Note: Don't use the links in the topic to browse through the pages, change the page number in the URL.

Spring 2004 Pre-Season (Chance the number after "Season" to view other pages; there are three of them):
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringPreSeason1.htm

Spring 2004 Contest (Change the number after "Stats" to view other pages; there are eight of them):
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringStats1.htm



*Match Pictures*

All the match pics, save for three from 2002:
http://www.sc2k5.com/gallery/index.php



*Miscellaneous*

Creativename's Page of Links:
http://sc2k4.com/links.php

MMXcalibur's Contest Sites:
http://prophetchallenge.hyperboards2.com/index.cgi
http://www.freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/

A List of Acronyms, A Lesson on Percentages, and Some Odd Matches:
http://www.freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/acronymspercentsanomalies.htm

Poll Vote Total Updater:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/25

All Time Top 25/Top 10 Lists:
http://www.rpgdl.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3251



!yawA tsoP
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It's just not the same without this name.
Faithful supporter of Squall Leonhart in SC2K5
From: TheCruelAngel | Posted: 8/23/2005 1:47:56 AM | Message Detail
Happy Birthday to Squall Leonhart!

Hopefully, Auron keeps winnig updates, too.

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Warden: Talk! What is SeeD all about!?
Squall: ...Flower.
From: John_Yossarian | Posted: 8/23/2005 1:50:43 AM | Message Detail
And another update for Auron

Is it over for Ganon?
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Allodoxaphobia- Fear of opinions.
http://img358.imageshack.us/img358/8308/normal110513627024310uy.jpg My eye!
From: mr_BRIAN | Posted: 8/23/2005 1:52:17 AM | Message Detail
It's Squall's birthday?

...Whatever.
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The King of all Cosmos' route to summer victory:
Round 1: (0) Voters
From: JonPen1416 | Posted: 8/23/2005 1:54:37 AM | Message Detail
*gives Squall a present*

Look, it's a Vincent shaped punching bag! Get to work, buddy. You're gonna need the practice.
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I need to put something here.
From: Mac Arrowny | Posted: 8/23/2005 3:59:55 AM | Message Detail
Damn, and here I was hoping to give him his unbirthday present today.
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Pity for the guilty is treason to the innocent.
From: Heroic Viktor | Posted: 8/23/2005 5:40:38 AM | Message Detail
Wait... Squall almost has the same birthday as me? Well doesn't that just put a damper on my weekend festivities <_<

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RIP: Tnote827 - 4/4/2005
SC2k5 - 35/38 (Kefka, Magus, Ocelot)
From: Shivan Reincarnated | Posted: 8/23/2005 5:41:27 AM | Message Detail
Heh, it is my birthday today too.

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Don't blame me. Blame yourself or God ~ Delita
Summer 2005 Score: 35/38: Ganondorf vs Auron
From: Brett with Atreyu | Posted: 8/23/2005 5:42:06 AM | Message Detail
Ganondorf is starting to make this a farce.

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Magus screwed my bracket over. Yay!
From: Infamus | Posted: 8/23/2005 5:42:40 AM | Message Detail
Why so early?
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From: TheCruelAngel | Posted: 8/23/2005 5:42:50 AM | Message Detail
What a waste of anticipation this match is turning out to be. <_<

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Warden: Talk! What is SeeD all about!?
Squall: ...Flower.
From: Sir Crono | Posted: 8/23/2005 9:12:38 AM | Message Detail
Well, I wanted to be able to make it so I could include Squall's birthday in the first post, heh. Nobody else would've done it...
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Contest 2005 Championship
Round 2: (3) Mag...Er...(6) Knuckles the Echidna
From: King Calamari | Posted: 8/23/2005 9:27:48 AM | Message Detail
Look, it's a Vincent shaped punching bag! Get to work, buddy. You're gonna need the practice.

Jumping to conclusions, hmm?
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Gooper Blooper? Who in the what now?
Bowser has the power to beat Snake and Ryu. He's an earthquake in a can! - UltimaterializerX
From: ExquisiteSamurai | Posted: 8/23/2005 10:28:57 AM | Message Detail
Vincent > Dante by at least 60%

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"Life...Dreams...Hope...Where'd they come from? And where are they headed...? These things...I'm going to destroy!!" -Kefka
From: Tai | Posted: 8/23/2005 10:29:06 AM | Message Detail
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From: Tai | Posted: 8/23/2005 10:29:30 AM | Message Detail
In other news, Final Fantasy fanboys cry today. Today is a great day. :-)
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From: JonPen1416 | Posted: 8/23/2005 10:47:13 AM | Message Detail
Holy crap, Ganon's absolutely exploded from when I last saw this match. We now have yet another match to prove a decent Nintendo increase across the board. And based on this, not even New Square has much of a chance at winning the day vote against a Nintendo character. If Tidus doesn't get the early vote, I doubt he can win.
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I need to put something here.
From: jonthomson | Posted: 8/23/2005 10:50:07 AM | Message Detail
I'd love to see Kirby beat Tidus even though I'll lose two points because of it.
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Jon Thomson - MARIO, Samus, SOLID SNAKE, Bowser, CRONO, Squall, Sonic, MEGA MAN
From: HaRRicH | Posted: 8/23/2005 10:58:43 AM | Message Detail
I'd lose six, but I'd like to see Kirby > Tidus too.
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Hillary Clinton: We need to treat violent video games the way we treat tobacco or alcohol.
Lewis Black: Namely as valued contributors to our re-election fund.
From: Dranze | Posted: 8/23/2005 10:59:11 AM | Message Detail
I'd only lose 2.
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"I dont know what I am talking about? I know more about gaming than 90 percent of the users on the internet." -xmagxus
From: voltch | Posted: 8/23/2005 11:05:13 AM | Message Detail
tomorrow ought to be more exciting than today's flop. goddamnit we need a match to get every one excited.
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Kilroy:There fate will be in each other's hands as they decide whether to share or to shaft
From: XxSoulxX | Posted: 8/23/2005 11:05:49 AM | Message Detail
So, Zelda > Snake anyone?
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"ertyu is actually a language. For example, 'dum' is ertyunese for 'godly'." - Topaz Kitsune
*Waiting for Guru winner's sig*
From: DragoonsKill91 | Posted: 8/23/2005 11:06:25 AM | Message Detail
indeed Zelda will beat snake tommorow...
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"The Lotus in Konoha blooms twice..." Rock Lee
From: TheCruelAngel | Posted: 8/23/2005 11:06:27 AM | Message Detail
Hopefully, not.

However, it could go either way.

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Warden: Talk! What is SeeD all about!?
Squall: ...Flower.
From: Dranze | Posted: 8/23/2005 11:06:33 AM | Message Detail
I'm totally for it. >_>
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"I dont know what I am talking about? I know more about gaming than 90 percent of the users on the internet." -xmagxus
From: voltch | Posted: 8/23/2005 11:08:05 AM | Message Detail
snake ought to win tomorrow's match without going to the wire. i can't see zelda being able to power her way through him
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Kilroy:There fate will be in each other's hands as they decide whether to share or to shaft
From: DragoonsKill91 | Posted: 8/23/2005 11:08:37 AM | Message Detail
Somehow i feel like im the only one who has complete faith in Tidus to confortably beat Kirby similarly to the Squall did last year...
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"The Lotus in Konoha blooms twice..." Rock Lee
From: Dranze | Posted: 8/23/2005 11:10:19 AM | Message Detail
I've lost my faith in Tidus completely.
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"I dont know what I am talking about? I know more about gaming than 90 percent of the users on the internet." -xmagxus
From: transience | Posted: 8/23/2005 11:12:32 AM | Message Detail
just woke up and haven't read anything, but damn, previous matches predicted how this thing would go exactly. the only question now is by how much and if Auron can cut at the lead when the night vote comes.
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From: JonPen1416 | Posted: 8/23/2005 11:33:17 AM | Message Detail
I really do not want to see Kirby > Tidus, and I actually prefer Kirby. Nintendo really needs to stop dominating this contest. Same with Zelda > Snake.
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From: Heroic_Cable | Posted: 8/23/2005 11:36:03 AM | Message Detail
The only other Nintendo dominace that needs to happen is DK over Chief.
From: kungfu chicken | Posted: 8/23/2005 11:38:14 AM | Message Detail
im with jonpen. I love kirby and dont care for tidus to much, but the nintendo domination is getting annoying and even worse, its getting boreing. still, im so enthralled with kirbys canvas curse right now i wouldnt be to upset with a kirby win.
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*pacing back in forth waiting for: advance wars ds, twilight princess, ffxii, kingdom hearts 2, castlevania dos*
From: JonPen1416 | Posted: 8/23/2005 11:38:16 AM | Message Detail
Ahhh MC. Probably the only character left in this contest with a day vote to rival Nintendo's.
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From: JonPen1416 | Posted: 8/23/2005 11:39:09 AM | Message Detail
Oh, and Knuckles and Sonic obviously. But they're not gonna be facing Nintendo this year anyway.
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I need to put something here.
From: voltch | Posted: 8/23/2005 11:39:25 AM | Message Detail
there are still some strong non-nintendo bastions left.
sonic
mega man
crono
snake
ought to put up a strong fight before going down.
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Kilroy:There fate will be in each other's hands as they decide whether to share or to shaft
From: plasmabeam | Posted: 8/23/2005 11:41:28 AM | Message Detail
Hooray for Squall's birthday!

*lights candles on his cake*

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SC2K5 - 35/38 points, Next Pick: Ganondorf
Squall Leonhart
From: Chocobo Kirby | Posted: 8/23/2005 11:59:30 AM | Message Detail
I wouldn't mind if Kirby beat Tidus, but I don't think that Zelda should beat Snake. It just seems wrong somehow.
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Weird Kirby Dude ~Board Hunter~
Every fanboy war degenerates to a flame war over whether each debater likes the Halo series or not. - Android21A
From: voltch | Posted: 8/23/2005 12:01:18 PM | Message Detail
if zelda beats snake won't this board be in an uproar?
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Kilroy:There fate will be in each other's hands as they decide whether to share or to shaft
From: JonPen1416 | Posted: 8/23/2005 12:02:50 PM | Message Detail
There will be a lot of whining, yeah, but it won't be hugely unexpected like Magus vs Knuckles. A lot of people who know what they're talking about really think she can win.
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I need to put something here.
From: MegatokyoEd | Posted: 8/23/2005 12:05:24 PM | Message Detail
This match is only making Snake look more and more doomed. If Ganon could of come this far from 2k3 imagine how far Zelda might of come... I mean she got 39% in 2k3 on MM and Snake only got 43% last year on a weaker MM....
From: sidharta | Posted: 8/23/2005 12:09:05 PM | Message Detail
Looks like there isn't much (if any) SFF between Seph and Auron.

But it's still too early to confirm whether or not Ganon's numbers against Seph was correct.

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From: Lopen | Posted: 8/23/2005 12:10:17 PM | Message Detail
I don't think that picture will help Zelda that much. I mean, Snake looks awful, but Zelda's picture isn't much better.

I still think Snake should win about as comfortably as Ganondorf is today (I'm none too pleased about this, by the way)
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Raiden fact of the post: Raiden recommends the Snake with Mask camo for his picture for the mad picture advantage.
From: Blade Of Evils Bane | Posted: 8/23/2005 12:12:14 PM | Message Detail
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From: Dranze | Posted: 8/23/2005 12:17:10 PM | Message Detail
If Snake beats Zelda, I doubt it's near 55%, seriously.
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"I dont know what I am talking about? I know more about gaming than 90 percent of the users on the internet." -xmagxus
From: sidharta | Posted: 8/23/2005 12:17:31 PM | Message Detail
I don't think that picture will help Zelda that much. I mean, Snake looks awful, but Zelda's picture isn't much better.

Zelda got an OOT pic, and we all know where OOT stands in the LoZ franchise's popularity food chain.
I don't think that pic will hurt her at all, if anything it might actually benefit her.

Snake, however, barely looks human in that pic.
He's but ugly for sure, but he's still a person.

Btw, I kinda liked Nintendo's domination so far, as all this does is decrease Square anti-votes and increase Nintendo anti-votes, which will hopefully tilt the balance in favor of Cloud once the ToC comes around.

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From: Slowflake | Posted: 8/23/2005 12:19:35 PM | Message Detail
Oh yeah, ph34r the 9 people who give a crap!
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From: HaRRicH | Posted: 8/23/2005 12:20:25 PM | Message Detail
If anybody gets 55% tomorrow, it'll be Zelda; Solid's not gonna be dominant in any sense of the word...unless winning by less than 7,500 is your idea of being dominant.
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Lewis Black: Namely as valued contributors to our re-election fund.
From: Phediuk | Posted: 8/23/2005 12:20:39 PM | Message Detail
Ganon's doing very good.

This bodes well for Zelda, especially when you take into account that she's facing a guy with no face.
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"Thank you, Mario. But our princess is in another castle."
-Toad in Super Mario Bros.
From: XxSoulxX | Posted: 8/23/2005 12:21:45 PM | Message Detail
Nintendo's complete domination in the contest, and people still believe that Cloud is going to beat Link?

Hmm... well, anything can happen I guess.
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"ertyu is actually a language. For example, 'dum' is ertyunese for 'godly'." - Topaz Kitsune
*Waiting for Guru winner's sig*
From: Lopen | Posted: 8/23/2005 12:30:26 PM | Message Detail
But Zelda just doesn't look very good in that picture, from OoT or not. It's not like she's going to have recognition issues. I do think the pictures have an effect, but only in three cases.

1. The character has a name that's not immediately recognizable, so he needs the pic. "Dude, who's that Egyptian guy... man I wish that Ninja from Ninja Gaiden got in instead of him..."
2. The voter likes both characters by almost the same amount. "Snake's cool, Frog's cool... WTF is with Snake!?"
3. The voter has no idea who either character is. "Vyse vs... Laharl? Uh... I'll take the dude with the two swords. Twice the swords, twice the power!"

So yeah, this picture is gonna sway a little from 2. But I don't expect many because I think Zelda looks pretty crappy too. (and no, I don't think "man, I loved Ocarina of Time" will help Zelda in case 2... but I guess I could be wrong)
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Raiden fact of the post: 4. Raiden vs other character... voter votes for Raiden, you can just feel the charisma.
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