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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 211
From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 8/20/2005 4:55:57 PM | Message Detail
Special massively early "Ulti is getting married tomorrow" edition! <3

I'll be gone for a week, and I'll seriously miss you guys. I'd use the internet cafe on the cruise, but I don't feel like spending 50 bucks an hour.

Bye, guys :)



*Creativename's websites*

Everything you could ever imagine:
http://www.sc2k5.com
http://www.sc2k4.com

Summer 2002 Contest Information:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/taxonomy/term/1

Summer 2003 Contest Information:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/taxonomy/term/2

Spring 2004 Contest Information:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/taxonomy/term/3

Summer 2004 Contest Information:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/taxonomy/term/4

Summer 2005 Contest Information:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/taxonomy/term/5

Sortable Table for Every Contest Match:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/19



*Extrapolated Standings*

Explanation of Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/11

Simple Explanation of Extrapolated Standings:
A = Strongest Character
B = Character Weaker than A
C = Character Weaker than B
To figure out a character's Xsts Percentage ---> [(CvB)(BvA)]/50 = CvA
To compare how C would do against B ---> [(CvA)/(BvA)]*50 = CvB
To figure out how B would do against A ---> [(CvA)/(CvB)]*50 = BvA

Summer 2002 Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/13

Summer 2003 Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/14

Spring 2004 Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/15

SFF Adjusted Spring 2004 Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/16

Summer 2004 Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/17

SFF Adjusted Summer 2004 Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/18

Spring 2005 Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/27

All Time Extrapolated Standings:
http://www.freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/alltimexsts.htm



*Solarshadow's Sites*

Summer 2002 Contest:
http://solarshadow2002.tripod.com

Summer 2003 Contest:
http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com/2003/index.html

Spring 2004 Contest: (not currently updating)
http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com/sp2004/index.html



*Old Stats topics*

Summer 2002 Contest:
http://solarshadow2002.tripod.com/page1.html

Summer 2003 Contest:
http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com/archive/topic1p1.html
http://www.angelfire.com/games5/sum_contest/Page1.htm (See note)

2003-2004 Off-Season:
http://membres.lycos.fr/shindohikaru/stats1.htm (See note)
Note: Don't use the links in the topic to browse through the pages, change the page number in the URL.

Spring 2004 Pre-Season (Chance the number after "Season" to view other pages; there are three of them):
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringPreSeason1.htm

Spring 2004 Contest (Change the number after "Stats" to view other pages; there are eight of them):
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringStats1.htm



*Match Pictures*

All the match pics, save for three from 2002:
http://www.sc2k5.com/gallery/index.php



*Miscellaneous*

Creativename's Page of Links:
http://sc2k4.com/links.php

MMXcalibur's Contest Sites:
http://prophetchallenge.hyperboards2.com/index.cgi
http://www.freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/

A List of Acronyms, A Lesson on Percentages, and Some Odd Matches:
http://www.freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/acronymspercentsanomalies.htm

Poll Vote Total Updater:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/25

All Time Top 25/Top 10 Lists:
http://www.rpgdl.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3251



!yawA tsoP
From: Applekidjosh | Posted: 8/20/2005 4:56:26 PM | Message Detail
Cruises are so freaking fun. Have a good time.
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"Apple Kid is ****ing awesome as hell." - UltimaterializerX
From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 8/20/2005 4:57:40 PM | Message Detail
And for the love of God, please don't forget those PCAs. I don't care who does them or how many people do the same match. I'll post every writeup, regardless of how many they are. Just cover every match and get them all in my e-mail account for when I come back =p

~*ST*~
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Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest
"If my fate is to be destroyed... I must simply laugh!" -Magus
From: Master Moltar | Posted: 8/20/2005 4:58:13 PM | Message Detail
Don't die, Lloyd.
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SC2K5: Samus is going all the way!
Mario vs. Ness - Bracket: Mario - Vote: Mario (28/32)
From: RPGGamer0 | Posted: 8/20/2005 5:00:31 PM | Message Detail
PCAs? >_>


~RPGGamer~
From: Heroic Viktor | Posted: 8/20/2005 5:02:52 PM | Message Detail
Just got back from a cruise... you sir, are going to have a ball. I myself was without the internet for one week, and it was somewhat painful. You will be having infinitely more sex than I did last week, but that is not necessarily a good thing. While you are sexxin' it up with the lady, I was chillin' with hot drunken 18 year olds. Mmm the single life is H-E-A-V-E-N.

Go Ness! Push Mario down to 82.83%!

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RIP: Tnote827 - 4/4/2005
SC2k5 - 31/34 (Kefka, Magus, Ocelot)
From: HaRRicH | Posted: 8/20/2005 6:54:54 PM | Message Detail
The Mario/Ness PCA is being covered by me as we speak, don't worry about that one.

And, of course, congrats again.
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Hillary Clinton: We need to treat violent video games the way we treat tobacco or alcohol.
Lewis Black: Namely as valued contributors to our re-election fund.
From: kungfu chicken | Posted: 8/20/2005 10:36:26 PM | Message Detail
i just considerd something. Wario ware games are really damn populare, and i know hes obviously not the focus of the series but i have to wonder how well wario would do in this contest. any thoughts? not only does he get a bit of votes from wario ware, but hes got mario kart, his game boy games, and general nintendo votes coming to him. I think he has potential to be slightly above the vfl untill he gets sff by just about any nintendo character.
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*pacing back in forth waiting for: advance wars ds, twilight princess, ffxii, kingdom hearts 2, castlevania dos*
From: Adept_Of_Aiur | Posted: 8/20/2005 10:37:10 PM | Message Detail
Didn't Wario lose to Shadow in 2K3?
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"All pretty girls are a trap, a pretty trap, and men expect them to be."
MasterMage119
From: Draco1214 | Posted: 8/20/2005 10:37:38 PM | Message Detail
Have fun on the cruise!
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Summer 2005 Contest - 30/34 points
Current Match Prediction: Zero vs. Lloyd Irving
From: kungfu chicken | Posted: 8/20/2005 10:39:02 PM | Message Detail
hmm? must have slipped my mind if he did. ill check.
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*pacing back in forth waiting for: advance wars ds, twilight princess, ffxii, kingdom hearts 2, castlevania dos*
From: Karma Hunter | Posted: 8/20/2005 10:39:25 PM | Message Detail
Yeah, Wario went out to Shadow. I remember, because people were calling it an 'upset' for some reason. o.O

But in any case, he's not fodder. He'd be pretty above the VFL, IIRC.
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"i started playing mario brothers as luigi and threw the controller down in disgust in the middle of the game because he lacked character"--gokujont
From: Karma Hunter | Posted: 8/20/2005 10:40:53 PM | Message Detail
Yeah, here's the poll:

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1322

Considering Shadow went on to function essentially as a Sonic proxy against Mario, Wario certainly placed well above the VFL.
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"i started playing mario brothers as luigi and threw the controller down in disgust in the middle of the game because he lacked character"--gokujont
From: kungfu chicken | Posted: 8/20/2005 10:41:01 PM | Message Detail
yeah he lost pretty bad saddly. this was before the wario ware series though, that could make a bit of difference.
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*pacing back in forth waiting for: advance wars ds, twilight princess, ffxii, kingdom hearts 2, castlevania dos*
From: JonPen1416 | Posted: 8/20/2005 10:41:52 PM | Message Detail
Shadow being a Sonic proxy makes no sense. A large majority of the Sonic fanbase hates Shadow.
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From: MegatokyoEd | Posted: 8/20/2005 10:42:17 PM | Message Detail
If Shadow's 2k4 numbers are his real stats though doesn't that put Wario near the VFL or even under it?
From: JaKyL25 | Posted: 8/20/2005 10:46:04 PM | Message Detail
I remember, because people were calling it an 'upset' for some reason. o.O

At the time, hadn't Shadow only been in one game, vs. the dozens of popular games in which Wario is featured?
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"If you want Bells & Whistles, I suggest you attend the Circus."--Lance F'n Storm
From: Karma Hunter | Posted: 8/20/2005 10:46:10 PM | Message Detail
Shadow being a Sonic proxy makes no sense. A large majority of the Sonic fanbase hates Shadow.

If you're going to tell me that over half of all the people that play Sonic have an abhorrent hatred of Shadow, I'm going to just have to laugh in your face. Besides, Shadow's numbers against Mario would seem to suggest the opposite.

And yeah, we can talk about 2k4 numbers and how Wario would place using those, but that's not exactly fair to the guy seeing as he didn't return, and we can't tell how much was year to year flucuation and how much was simply anomalous.
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"i started playing mario brothers as luigi and threw the controller down in disgust in the middle of the game because he lacked character"--gokujont
From: Karma Hunter | Posted: 8/20/2005 10:48:41 PM | Message Detail
At the time, hadn't Shadow only been in one game, vs. the dozens of popular games in which Wario is featured?

Yeah, but Shadow looks 'cool', while Wario can come off as obnoxious to many, and again, we could have that 'Sonic proxy' thing going on there for 2k3, for whatever reason. In any case, while I can respect and understand the logic behind it being an upset, I always thought that match was obvious from the beginning. But then again I always thought Squall/Luigi was obvious too. Maybe I just don't pay enough attention to these things.
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"i started playing mario brothers as luigi and threw the controller down in disgust in the middle of the game because he lacked character"--gokujont
From: HaRRicH | Posted: 8/20/2005 10:49:25 PM | Message Detail
Wario lost to Shadow in 2k3 with 35.1% before Shadow went on to impress against Mario. By the stats in 2k3, Wario beats Vyse with 60.43%...however, Mega/Tidus in 2k4 has given some serious doubt about Shadow's strength since Tidus/Shadow was such an even match the round before. If Shadow's true strength is really what 2k4 showed, there there's two options due to 20XXF...

--If you believe in 20XXF, Wario loses to Vyse with 48.86%.
--If you don't believe in 20XXF, Wario loses to Vyse with 43.97%.

...between 20XXF, Wario having new games, and us not seeing him in over two years makes all of this an uber-sketchy guide-line at best though, so judge for yourself from here.
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Hillary Clinton: We need to treat violent video games the way we treat tobacco or alcohol.
Lewis Black: Namely as valued contributors to our re-election fund.
From: Sir Crono | Posted: 8/21/2005 5:36:47 PM | Message Detail
A large majority of the Sonic fanbase hates Shadow.

Yep, just like a large majority of the FFX fanbase hates Tidus, right?

Don't confuse this board with the majority of the fanbase.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Contest 2005 Championship
Round 2: (3) Mag...Er...(6) Knuckles the Echidna
From: AmazingKirby | Posted: 8/21/2005 5:38:44 PM | Message Detail
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From: Sir Crono | Posted: 8/21/2005 5:39:40 PM | Message Detail
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From: AmazingKirby | Posted: 8/21/2005 5:41:50 PM | Message Detail
I guess I was confusing "a large majority" with "a large amount." >_>
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I know what I'm getting into, I don't care if I die trying!-Peppita Rossetti
From: RPGGamer0 | Posted: 8/21/2005 9:44:06 PM | Message Detail
What's a PCA?


~RPGGamer~
From: fastpawn | Posted: 8/21/2005 9:44:26 PM | Message Detail
So, eh, he got married today. How special.
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From: Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted: 8/21/2005 9:44:59 PM | Message Detail
I really hope these 70% claims for Samus don't actually come true. That would make me quite sad.

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To the man whose spirit was so free it was bothersome... Kurosaki Ichigo, my sword has been broken by your freedom of spirit.
From: Mac Arrowny | Posted: 8/21/2005 9:46:34 PM | Message Detail
Accidental 500 > j00

I really hope these 70% claims for Samus don't actually come true. That would make me quite sad.

Why? I thought you liked Samus.
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Pity for the guilty is treason to the innocent.
From: RPGGamer0 | Posted: 8/21/2005 9:46:39 PM | Message Detail
Oh, and I was going to say 72% ftw in the last post, but I couldn't.


~RPGGamer~
From: Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted: 8/21/2005 9:47:33 PM | Message Detail
Why? I thought you liked Samus.

I do like Samus, but I also like Frog. It'd be nice if this could end somewhere around 60 - 40 in Samus's favor.

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To the man whose spirit was so free it was bothersome... Kurosaki Ichigo, my sword has been broken by your freedom of spirit.
From: Mister Mario | Posted: 8/21/2005 9:49:54 PM | Message Detail
Hypothetically, where would Dante be if Terra was equal to Kefka?
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Mario is Winnar
Next victim: Master Ness
From: FastFalcon05 | Posted: 8/21/2005 9:51:32 PM | Message Detail
She isn't going to get 70...I would be shocked if she did.

Although, if Frog bombed that badly, it would clearly show that all crono trigger characters have gone done enormously, and master chief would exact his revenge on Frog by taking out Crono.

Yup.
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Revenge is a dish best served cold. ~Old Klingon Proverb
From: Mister Mario | Posted: 8/21/2005 9:53:19 PM | Message Detail
Donkey Kong would exact his revenge

^_^
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Mario is Winnar
Next victim: Master Ness
From: RPGGamer0 | Posted: 8/21/2005 9:53:49 PM | Message Detail
There's no way that Master Chief will take out Crono.


~RPGGamer~
From: Mac Arrowny | Posted: 8/21/2005 10:03:21 PM | Message Detail
Mister Mario's got it right. DK over Crono would be pretty much the best upset ever, on the same level Ganon over Samus would be.
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Pity for the guilty is treason to the innocent.
From: Tai | Posted: 8/21/2005 10:04:44 PM | Message Detail
DK beating that annoying old-schooler who beat Mario?

I'd be happy all day. :-))
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From: FastFalcon05 | Posted: 8/21/2005 10:07:37 PM | Message Detail
Ganondorf has much more of a chance at taking down Samus than does DK over Crono.
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Revenge is a dish best served cold. ~Old Klingon Proverb
From: TheGreatMaster | Posted: 8/21/2005 10:08:48 PM | Message Detail
Ha, DK over Crono would be the greatest thing in any GameFAQs contest, ever. Too bad it'll never happen.

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Mario's Path to Victory: Round 2 - (4) Ness
From: Razor_Star | Posted: 8/21/2005 10:09:36 PM | Message Detail
Link>Cloud>Link>Cloud>Sephiroth
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http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=22968075
From: sidharta | Posted: 8/21/2005 10:15:38 PM | Message Detail
DK over Crono would be THE biggest travesty I'll ever see in GameFAQs.

Fortunately, the ugly ape won't even get past MC, let alone make Crono sweat.

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Reserved for the winner of the SC2K5 Guru Challenge.
From: Lopen | Posted: 8/21/2005 10:27:09 PM | Message Detail
An excuse to bring out delightfully wacky Dante projections? Sweet!

If Terra = 2k4 Adjusted Kefka, Dante is at 39.91% on 2k3 Link.
If Terra = 2k4 Unadjusted Kefka, Dante is at 35.93% on 2k3 Link.
If Terra = 2k4 Dante (Upset special, remember?), Dante is at 47.95% on 2k3 Link. (my personal favorite)
If Terra = OMG Terra Lost to Crash!?!, Dante is at 33% on 2k3 Link.
If Terra = Ultros, Dante is at 27.15% on 2k3 Link. (matches up nice... but Terra = Ultros??)
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I love 4 out of 5 of those.
From: Draco1214 | Posted: 8/21/2005 10:35:01 PM | Message Detail
If Terra = Ultros, Dante is at 27.15% on 2k3 Link. (matches up nice... but Terra = Ultros??)

This is where I think Dante will end up.
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Summer 2005 Contest - 32/36 points
Current Match Prediction: Samus Aran vs. Frog
From: Mister Mario | Posted: 8/21/2005 10:35:20 PM | Message Detail
Whee, those are great.

Dante > Vincent.
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Mario is Winnar
Next victim: Master Zero
From: charmander6000 | Posted: 8/21/2005 10:42:49 PM | Message Detail
But Terra can't be that weak that she loses to Ultros!!!

<end Kerrigan excuse>
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I've been Pwned by KoaC. He really is the king of all cosmos.
From: Phediuk | Posted: 8/21/2005 11:12:17 PM | Message Detail
Hey, I saw an interesting idea for a contest a few hours back and thought I'd share it with you guys.

What if it was just a 64, one-on-one character battle like this, but the loser of each match continues on? Since the average voter wouldn't know this due to not paying attention to the contest very much, it would be quite interesting.
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"Thank you, Mario. But our princess is in another castle."
-Toad in Super Mario Bros.
From: sidharta | Posted: 8/21/2005 11:14:52 PM | Message Detail
What if it was just a 64, one-on-one character battle like this, but the loser of each match continues on? Since the average voter wouldn't know this due to not paying attention to the contest very much, it would be quite interesting.

You mean, a "least popular/well-known char ever" contest?

No thanks, I'll take the current format over that.

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Reserved for the winner of the SC2K5 Guru Challenge.
From: charmander6000 | Posted: 8/21/2005 11:16:48 PM | Message Detail
What if it was just a 64, one-on-one character battle like this, but the loser of each match continues on? Since the average voter wouldn't know this due to not paying attention to the contest very much, it would be quite interesting.

Nah, the best thing for that to happen is if CJayC did a losers bracket after the first round and do the rest of the contest after (but that would take 3 months)
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I've been Pwned by KoaC. He really is the king of all cosmos.
From: BeTheMan | Posted: 8/21/2005 11:17:44 PM | Message Detail
I wouldn't be surprised to see Terra somewhere around the Ultros number from the spring, because I still think that Ultros was overrated through Bowser. Still, I hope Dante turns out to be stronger than that would suggest.
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ALL YOUR VOTES ARE BELONG TO...Pac-Man?
From: Lopen | Posted: 8/21/2005 11:21:35 PM | Message Detail
I still say a Characters vs Games contest would be just as unpredictable, and less senseless to boot.
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From: Mac Arrowny | Posted: 8/21/2005 11:30:26 PM | Message Detail
Characters vs. Games would be dumb, considering that a large part of the reason people vote for a character is the game they come from. I'd guess that Games would destroy Characters, for the most part.
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Pity for the guilty is treason to the innocent.
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