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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 209
From: bigkevinm84 | Posted: 8/19/2005 6:23:33 PM | Message Detail
Also, Yoshi vs. Pac-Man could be interesting. If Pac-Man somehow does better on Yoshi than he did against Luigi, then "Old School SFF" really is a big factor. That, or Yoshi somehow rSFF'd Luigi... Wouldn't make much sense, Yoshi should score close to 70% at most.
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From: Draco1214 | Posted: 8/19/2005 6:24:06 PM | Message Detail
FACT or FICTION: Mario will quadruple Ness tomorrow.
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Current Match Prediction: Mario vs. Carl Johnson
From: Sir Bormun | Posted: 8/19/2005 6:24:47 PM | Message Detail
Fact about the quadrupling. Can't see Mario doing worse than Bowser.
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From: Sir Crono | Posted: 8/19/2005 6:24:57 PM | Message Detail
The only thing that could destroy that logic is Luigi/Pac-Man SFF, and that's something that sounded weird before today.

Seeing Kefka being projected to beat Pac-Man with over 60% one year after he barely beat him at all sounded weirder. Honestly, a Luigi overperformance made more sense to me.
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From: transience | Posted: 8/19/2005 6:25:23 PM | Message Detail
no way, Pac Man World and Ms. Pac Man Mobile gave Pac-Man a boost!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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From: bigkevinm84 | Posted: 8/19/2005 6:27:26 PM | Message Detail
Mario will easily quad Ness tomorrow, methinks.
FACT.
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From: Sir Bormun | Posted: 8/19/2005 6:28:38 PM | Message Detail
But before today, Leon, what seemed the most likely was some combination of a Luigi overperformance and a Pac-Man drop. Pac-Man being at his 2k3 level, especially as his glory days get farther away every year, seemed wrong. Guess it's true, though.
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From: Slowflake | Posted: 8/19/2005 6:30:02 PM | Message Detail
For kicks, every BOP upset to date (the percentage is for people who got it right):

1. 00.00% - Summer 2005 - Knuckles the Echidna def. Janus "Magus" Zeal
2. 02.63% - Summer 2005 - Pac-Man def. Revolver Ocelot
3. 02.94% - Spring 2004 - Starcraft def. Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker
4. 07.27% - Spring 2005 - Master Hand def. Kuja
5. 12.50% - Summer 2005 - Ness def. Carl Johnson
6. 12.75% - Spring 2004 - Starcraft def. Kingdom Hearts
7. 13.45% - Summer 2004 - Sora def. Ryu Hayabusa
8. 18.18% - Spring 2005 - Dr. Ivo "Eggman" Robotnik def. Master Hand
9. 19.61% - Spring 2004 - Super Smash Bros. Melee def. Starcraft
10. 23.64% - Spring 2005 - Diablo def. Kefka Palazzo
11. 30.25% - Summer 2004 - Miles "Tails" Prower def. Viewtiful Joe
12. 32.35% - Spring 2004 - Super Smash Bros. Melee def. Final Fantasy 10
13. 34.31% - Spring 2004 - Starcraft def. Halo
14. 40.00% - Spring 2005 - Diablo def. Mike Bison
15. 46.36% - Spring 2005 - Diablo def. Ridley
16. 48.74% - Summer 2004 - Ness def. Jak
17. 49.58% - Summer 2004 - Tidus def. Shadow the Hedgehog

And the only correct consensus under 50%, ever, was last year's final, where 44.54% picked Link. The rest was split between Cloud and a few others, but mostly Cloud.
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From: Sir Crono | Posted: 8/19/2005 6:30:36 PM | Message Detail
Thinking Pac-Man would take such a humongous drop was a little farfetched to me. He'll fade away, not completely fall off the map all at one time.
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From: Slowflake | Posted: 8/19/2005 6:32:31 PM | Message Detail
What Leonhart said. My gut instinct told me Pac-Man's value was way off last year. I mean, I'd vote for the Pacster over quite a few guys, but not Luigi, because Luigi has everything Pac-Man has and then some. I always felt a lot of voters thought the same way.
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From: The Doppleganger | Posted: 8/19/2005 6:39:56 PM | Message Detail
Uhh, how the hell was Robotnik over MH an upset? Seriously, MH over Kuja obviously, but Robotnik over MH? Wtf
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From: Master Moltar | Posted: 8/19/2005 6:40:33 PM | Message Detail
Mushroom Division Round 2 - Match 33 – (1)Mario vs. (4)Ness

Mario - More like MARIOWNED…I had nothing else.
Round 1 – vs. Joanna Dark (Mario: 80.90% - Joanna: 19.10%)

Mario easily disposes of Ms. Dark….too easily if you ask me.

Ness - News headline: White boy with bat beats black man. Fanboys under suspicion.
Round 1 – vs. Carl Johnson (Ness: 55.14% - CJ: 44.86%)

This match might have hurt the board brackets, but Ness fans can be happy for once.

Well, many of us predicted this to be a match between Mario vs. CJ, which would have been semi-interesting. Instead, we have a SFF snore-fest between Mario and Ness which is about as interesting as an episode of Inuyasha.

So…yeah, Mario wins easily.

Moltar’s Bracket Says: Mario will win.

Moltar’s Prediction is: Mario: 77% - Ness: 23%



Ulti’s Analysis

(Special note from Ulti: I'm either getting married or on my honeymoon as you're reading this, so know that all of my second round writeups will suck. I'm doing the same short writeups that I did for the last round, because I don't have time to be extensive.)

Y helo thar SFF. Though if there were any justice, Ness would whip Mario's ass. I love Mario, but come on, it's NESS.

Prediction: Mario with 78.45%



Soul’s Analysis

How they got here

Mario defeated Joanna Dark 80.9% - 19.1%
Ness defeated Carl Johnson 55.14% - 44.86%


To get off topic for a bit, I just got to say that I'm pumped and excited about round 2 starting. About 75% of the matches look to be amazing on paper, and I'm hoping that we will get a few surprises as well. The match I'm looking forward to the most is, of course, Knuckles Vs. Squall. Also on the plate are Ganondorf/Auron, Kirby/Tidus, Bowser/Ryu, Vincent/Dante, the entire Gear division, and even the Master Chief's and DK's match looks to be rather close. Here's hoping the ape steals one.

With that said, one thing that can be said about the first round is Nintendo. It was all Nintendo, all the time. Every Nintendo character made it out of the first one. I know you're wondering "when is one of them going to lose?!". Well, in this very match.

You see, Mario is one of the favorites to win the entire contest. He is Nintendo's number 1 mascot (according to most) in this contest, and should be able to defeat every Nintendo character by getting SFF on them. Of course, this is not how I think things will happen, but I'll let it slide for this match.

Ness, or perfect killer as I like to call him, is probably the weakest Nintendo character to make it out of the first round. Looking at his past performances, he tends to be the icon of cult gaming. He, along with many others, starred in SSB and SSBM, so he's been performing accordingly. Ness scored 55% on Jak last year, while he lost in 2003 to Bowser because of SFF.

Wait a second here, Bowser SFFed him and got over 75%? Well, Bowser is the villain from the Mario series. What does this tell you? Well Ness, basically you're stuck under heavy SFF yet again! Maybe next year you can get a good placement in the stats.

My prediction: Mario wins with 79.94% of the vote. Nothing to see here folks. You can continue whatever the hell you were doing before reading this.



Outback’s Analysis

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1753
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=988

Mario totally destroys everyone that he faces with ANY relation to his series whatsoever. Ness will still get the starmen.net crowd, but this is going to be an absolute pasting by the king of gaming.

Mario with 84.93%
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Ocelot vs. Pac-Man - Bracket: Ocelot - Vote: Ocelot (28/31)
From: Master Moltar | Posted: 8/19/2005 6:40:44 PM | Message Detail
Inviso’s Analysis

In round one, Mario defeated Joanna Dark in a blowout victory. This was because she was made to look like an even bigger whore than Mario himself. Ness, on the other hand, upset a lot of brackets and completely destroyed the board’s thinking by beating CJ, whom I still believe lost simply because he got a picture that looked nothing like him, and since his fans know him as CJ, not Carl Johnson, they might not have realized who they weren’t voting for. Anyway, Ness derives most of his fanbase from Super Smash Brothers: Melee. I know he has Earthbound, but that’s a cult RPG at best and without SSB:M, he’d probably be around Vyse’s level. But, the problem comes from the fact that Mario is also from SSB:M, and has a much bigger fanbase due to basically being the face of gaming. There will definitely be some SFF in this match, and it’s won’t help Ness at all.

My Bracket: Mario Mario
My Vote: Ness
My Prediction: Mario Mario with 74.89%



Tnote’s Analysis

Aaah, the sweet, sweet vindication of Ness. All that awesomeness, and only to come back and get throttled to SFF-hell and back by a more powerful and influential character than Bowser, who has already SFF-throttled the bat-wielding pre-teen. This match is the calm before the storm, when we have just a week straight of freakin’ amazing contests. I would not be surprised to see Ness perform better against Mario than Bowser, but it is not what I will be predicting.

Pick: Mario with 82.83%



Vlado’s Analysis

A pointless match, where Ness won't even have the SSBM votes that gave him the win in the first round. Mario will SFF him and make him look even worse than he already is, which will result in CJ occupying one of the bottom spots at the end of the tournament. But, having lost to Ness, he most probably deserves that. The Earthbound hero will have to rely on the votes of the fans of his own game... I can see this turning into something like Ganondorf vs. Giygas, if not worse. Still, I'll give Ness the benefit of the doubt, after all, at least he's human, and not menstrual blood, like his nemesis. Besides, Mario's picture is the horrid start screen from Mario 64, so Ness can't lose THAT badly. There'll also be Mario anti-votes.

Predicted percentage: Mario with 77.48%.

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Ocelot vs. Pac-Man - Bracket: Ocelot - Vote: Ocelot (28/31)
From: The n00b Avenger | Posted: 8/19/2005 6:41:35 PM | Message Detail
Uhh, how the hell was Robotnik over MH an upset?

Kuja was overestimated?
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From: charmander6000 | Posted: 8/19/2005 6:41:53 PM | Message Detail
Match 33: (1) Mario Mario vs. (4) Ness

Past Performance:

Mario Mario


Summer 2002
Beat Servbot, 74.11% - 25.89%
Beat Morrigan, 66.81% - 33.19%
Beat Donkey Kong, 81.98% - 18.02%
Beat Cloud Strife, 50.11% - 49.89%
Beat Crono, 50.05% - 49.95%
Lost to Link, 37.47% - 62.53%
Ranked: 6th

Summer 2003
Beat Captain Olimar, 88.42% - 11.58%
Beat Shadow the Hedgehog, 55.10% - 44.90%
Beat Crono, 50.05% - 49.95%
Lost to Sephiroth, 38.40% - 61.60%
Ranked: 5th

Summer 2004
Beat JC Denton, 83.54% - 16.46%
Beat Bowser, 70.65% - 29.35%
Lost to Crono, 46.76% - 53.24%
Ranked: 6th

Spring 2005
Did not attend
Ranked: N/A

Summer 2005
Beat Joanna Dark, 80.11% - 19.89%

Win-Lose Record
11-3

Ness

Summer 2002
Did not attend
Ranked: N/A

Summer 2003
Lost to Bowser, 24.93% - 75.07%
Ranked: 55th

Summer 2004
Beat Jak, 55.08% - 44.92%
Lost to Auron, 34.96% - 65.04%
Ranked: 34th

Spring 2005
Did not attend
Ranked: N/A

Summer 2005
Beat Carl “CJ” Johnson, 55.14% - 44.86%

Win-Lose Record
2-2

Analysis

Looks like we’re going to start the unpredictable round 2 with a good old fashion, SFF match. This could’ve been prevented if CJ beat Ness like we was suppose to. We’ve seen what Bowser did to Ness in 2k3 and now its Mario’s turn. Will he make Ness look worse than Joanna Dark or will he save himself from getting quadrupled by the likes of the red plumber.

Last round Mario did around what I expected, but I didn’t even think that Ness would make it here. People blame racism, but I think it’s based mostly on CJ being a weak character and using Vercetti as the base was a little dumb.

Despite Mario being stronger than Bowser, I don’t think he’ll do much better against Ness. First of all the Earthbound fanbase is very loyal to Ness and will usually vote for him over almost anything. This may have been a coincidence, but using the SFF Ness suffered from Bowser I was able to almost exactly predict Master Hand’s strength using Ganondorf as the base. I know the villain’s contest is a little unstable right now, but this could prove that people from SSBM will most likely vote Bowser and Mario over Ness. So a quadruple may be out of the question (but there’s always the outside chance).

If anybody has seen the leader board, unlike board 8 it looks like Mario is the favorite to take the whole contest. This will definitely make Mario vs. Samus a match to look out for.

I do believe that Mario will do better against Ness than Bowser did, but I don’t think he’ll do as much as people believe (I would laugh if Bowser out did Mario). Ness may have been in three contests already, but we still don’t have much of a reading on him since he was SFF two years and the other year Auron was SFF by Sephiroth. Hopefully in 2k6 we’ll know his true strength

charmander6000’s Bracket: Mario Mario over Carl “CJ” Johnson

charmander6000’s Prediction: Mario wins, 77.53% - 22.47%

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From: LordOfDabu | Posted: 8/19/2005 6:44:35 PM | Message Detail
Ness will at least get the board vote and lead for ten seconds, right? I know my vote's going towards him.
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From: Sir Crono | Posted: 8/19/2005 6:45:16 PM | Message Detail
Ness will not lead after the first 100 votes, if he even has it at all.
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From: Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted: 8/19/2005 6:45:52 PM | Message Detail
Mario should lead throughout the entire match, because he's good like that. =p

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From: charmander6000 | Posted: 8/19/2005 6:46:18 PM | Message Detail
I think the board will go with Mario, but that's just me.
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From: Haste2 | Posted: 8/19/2005 6:50:11 PM | Message Detail
Depends on whether you're willing to buy a slight underperformance against Scorpion, because I would pick Kefka over Scorpion myself. And I hope you remember how hardcore Scorpion beat Pac-Man.

Scorpion beat Max Payne with over 65%, so maybe Scorpion really was stronger than given credit for. Heck, since many people were suspicious about Sonic underperfoming a bit against Sonic, so maybe Scorpion was actually at over 25% on BL. Of course, that means you'd have to accept Link being slightly stronger in 2K2 than in 2K3...not that it's unreasonable, as Link beat Mario worse that year than he would've been expected to in 2K3. Heh...and that would make Auron look slightly better, too. Hm, I can't believe I went on like that for something so minute(sp?). =p

Hm, I'm not too surprised that Ocelot was winning. I remember being surprised by Ocelot's overwhelming support in R1...since I saw the bracket I thought Pac-Man over Ocelot was far more likely than Ocelot over Yoshi. But...gack...why can't I ever score more than (x-2)/x points in the first round?! Here I am, near the top of Board 8 right now, yet I still miss two...

Oh, and just to tell you all: If Luigi overperformed on both KOS-MOS and Pac-Man, they were by proportionate amounts.

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From: Haste2 | Posted: 8/19/2005 6:51:30 PM | Message Detail
I can't believe nobody's talked about Ryu vs. Bowser yet. I totally discounted Ryu's chances based on those Sp2K5 standings, but today shows that Ryu does have a great shot at winning, in my opinion.

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From: The n00b Avenger | Posted: 8/19/2005 6:52:22 PM | Message Detail
If Scorpion was really hot stuff and he didn't drop too much in 2K4 he'd be a friggin shoe-in over Ganondorf.
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From: The n00b Avenger | Posted: 8/19/2005 6:52:30 PM | Message Detail
Er, I mean Auron would be.
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From: Haste2 | Posted: 8/19/2005 6:55:09 PM | Message Detail
Indeed, Auron over Ganondorf looks more probable now. Pac-Man looking stronger makes Auron look better, while Ocelot losing makes Bowser look worse, meaning Ganondorf could've been overestimated, as well. Ness beating CJ handily doesn't hurt Auron's chances, either.


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From: Slowflake | Posted: 8/19/2005 6:56:35 PM | Message Detail
From: The Doppleganger | Posted: 8/19/2005 9:39:56 PM | #211
Uhh, how the hell was Robotnik over MH an upset? Seriously, MH over Kuja obviously, but Robotnik over MH? Wtf

Kuja was the huge favorite to take it. Eggman succeeded where he failed, beating MH. Eggman > Kuja was an upset in and of itself.
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From: KingBartz | Posted: 8/19/2005 7:11:16 PM | Message Detail
*absolutely certain*

1. Mario over Ness
2. Crono over Vercetti
3. Yoshi over Pac-Man
4. Samus over Frog
5. Megaman over Leon
6. Sonic over Diablo
7. Zero over Lloyd
8. Master Chief over Donkey Kong

*quite certain, but there's an outside shot of an upset*

9. Vincent over Dante
10. Sora over Alucard
11. Knuckles over Squall
12. Solid Snake over Zelda

*somewhat uncertain*

13. Tifa over Luigi
14. Bowser over Ryu
15. Tidus over Kirby

*totally not confident*

16. Ganondorf over Auron


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From: Sir Crono | Posted: 8/19/2005 7:15:31 PM | Message Detail
*quite certain, but there's an outside shot of an upset*

9. Vincent over Dante
10. Sora over Alucard
11. Knuckles over Squall
12. Solid Snake over Zelda


Uh...What? Knuckles over Squall IS the upset. Squall will win that match.
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From: Tai | Posted: 8/19/2005 7:17:23 PM | Message Detail
More proof that Ulti can and will make other people say whatever he wants: one day he advocates throwing in some common sense with the stats because one without the other is worthless, and everyone's cool with that; and the next day he'll say both are worthless together (jealous much of people who guessed the late spring stats were BS right of the bat?) and everyone'll bite. </rant>

I've been *****ing about how the ExtraOverrated stats were feces, too. What, just because I'm here in Detroit until Sunday, you aren't hearing me? Just wait till I get home, I've got a can of bickering to open too. :-(((
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From: therealmnm | Posted: 8/19/2005 7:19:07 PM | Message Detail
Charmander, do you really have to add in character's past performances in other contests now that we've already been introduced to all of the characters? Past matches in this contests is fine, but the rest aren't necessary anymore.
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From: Tediz247 | Posted: 8/19/2005 7:23:52 PM | Message Detail
Completely certain:
1) Mario over Ness
2) Zero over Lloyd Irving
3) Samus over Frog
4) Crono over Tommy Vercetti
5) Sonic over Diablo
6) Mega Man over Leon
7) Yoshi over Pac-Man
8) Tifa over Luigi

Fairly certain:
1) Master Chief over Donkey Kong
2) Vincent over Dante
3) Bowser over Ryu

Marginally certain:
1) Squall over Knuckles
2) Solid Snake over Zelda
3) Ganondorf over Auron

*shrug*
1) Alucard over Sora
2) Tidus over Kirby
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From: cyko | Posted: 8/19/2005 7:25:48 PM | Message Detail

1. 00.00% - Summer 2005 - Knuckles the Echidna def. Janus "Magus" Zeal
2. 02.63% - Summer 2005 - Pac-Man def. Revolver Ocelot
3. 02.94% - Spring 2004 - Starcraft def. Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker
4. 07.27% - Spring 2005 - Master Hand def. Kuja
5. 12.50% - Summer 2005 - Ness def. Carl Johnson
6. 12.75% - Spring 2004 - Starcraft def. Kingdom Hearts
7. 13.45% - Summer 2004 - Sora def. Ryu Hayabusa
8. 18.18% - Spring 2005 - Dr. Ivo "Eggman" Robotnik def. Master Hand
9. 19.61% - Spring 2004 - Super Smash Bros. Melee def. Starcraft
10. 23.64% - Spring 2005 - Diablo def. Kefka Palazzo
11. 30.25% - Summer 2004 - Miles "Tails" Prower def. Viewtiful Joe
12. 32.35% - Spring 2004 - Super Smash Bros. Melee def. Final Fantasy 10
13. 34.31% - Spring 2004 - Starcraft def. Halo
14. 40.00% - Spring 2005 - Diablo def. Mike Bison
15. 46.36% - Spring 2005 - Diablo def. Ridley
16. 48.74% - Summer 2004 - Ness def. Jak
17. 49.58% - Summer 2004 - Tidus def. Shadow the Hedgehog


....and i've been right in a grand total of 5 of those, most of which involved Diablo......

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From: charmander6000 | Posted: 8/19/2005 7:26:36 PM | Message Detail
Charmander, do you really have to add in character's past performances in other contests now that we've already been introduced to all of the characters? Past matches in this contests is fine, but the rest aren't necessary anymore.

Sure, but I'm keeping the newly added Win-Lose Record.
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From: Adept_Of_Aiur | Posted: 8/19/2005 7:27:40 PM | Message Detail
I was in 6.

Master Hand>Kuja, Robotnik>Master Hand, Tails>Joe, Diablo>Ridley, Ness>Jak, and Tidus>Shadow.
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From: Master Moltar | Posted: 8/19/2005 7:28:48 PM | Message Detail
I had 3 of those. The 2 SSBM ones and Ness over Jak.

=(
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Ocelot vs. Pac-Man - Bracket: Ocelot - Vote: Ocelot (28/31)
From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 8/19/2005 7:28:56 PM | Message Detail
many people were suspicious about Sonic underperfoming a bit against Sonic

Paradox?

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From: Slowflake | Posted: 8/19/2005 7:32:03 PM | Message Detail
I had Ness over Jak, and Tidus over Shadow. That's it, that's all. And ironically, these are the last two on the list. Heck, I even got that Link/Cloud match wrong.
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From: Sir Crono | Posted: 8/19/2005 7:32:36 PM | Message Detail
I wonder why people keep saying they're uncertain about Squall/Knuckles...Magus was simply overrated, nothing more.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Contest 2005 Championship
Round 2: (3) Mag...Er...(6) Knuckles the Echidna
From: Slowflake | Posted: 8/19/2005 7:33:33 PM | Message Detail
Yeah... if Knuckles beats Squall, I think Scorpion's 2002 run is going the way of the toilet.
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From: Tediz247 | Posted: 8/19/2005 7:34:16 PM | Message Detail
1. 00.00% - Summer 2005 - Knuckles the Echidna def. Janus "Magus" Zeal
2. 02.63% - Summer 2005 - Pac-Man def. Revolver Ocelot
3. 02.94% - Spring 2004 - Starcraft def. Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker
4. 07.27% - Spring 2005 - Master Hand def. Kuja
5. 12.50% - Summer 2005 - Ness def. Carl Johnson
6. 12.75% - Spring 2004 - Starcraft def. Kingdom Hearts
7. 13.45% - Summer 2004 - Sora def. Ryu Hayabusa
8. 18.18% - Spring 2005 - Dr. Ivo "Eggman" Robotnik def. Master Hand
9. 19.61% - Spring 2004 - Super Smash Bros. Melee def. Starcraft
10. 23.64% - Spring 2005 - Diablo def. Kefka Palazzo
11. 30.25% - Summer 2004 - Miles "Tails" Prower def. Viewtiful Joe
12. 32.35% - Spring 2004 - Super Smash Bros. Melee def. Final Fantasy 10
13. 34.31% - Spring 2004 - Starcraft def. Halo
14. 40.00% - Spring 2005 - Diablo def. Mike Bison
15. 46.36% - Spring 2005 - Diablo def. Ridley

16. 48.74% - Summer 2004 - Ness def. Jak
17. 49.58% - Summer 2004 - Tidus def. Shadow the Hedgehog

That's all I had.
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From: rpgapzx | Posted: 8/19/2005 7:35:46 PM | Message Detail
7. 13.45% - Summer 2004 - Sora def. Ryu Hayabusa
10. 23.64% - Spring 2005 - Diablo def. Kefka Palazzo
12. 32.35% - Spring 2004 - Super Smash Bros. Melee def. Final Fantasy 10
14. 40.00% - Spring 2005 - Diablo def. Mike Bison
15. 46.36% - Spring 2005 - Diablo def. Ridley
16. 48.74% - Summer 2004 - Ness def. Jak
17. 49.58% - Summer 2004 - Tidus def. Shadow the Hedgehog

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From: LordOfDabu | Posted: 8/19/2005 7:44:15 PM | Message Detail
I had eight of those upsets! Of course, that is primarily due to how I had StarCraft, Melee, and Diablo advancing.
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From: Dranze | Posted: 8/19/2005 7:47:14 PM | Message Detail
I only had Ness over Jak, and being the SSBM fanboy, I would of had SSBM winning it's division. =P
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From: Haste2 | Posted: 8/19/2005 7:53:57 PM | Message Detail
Positive about:
1) Mario over Ness
2) Zero over Lloyd Irving
3) Samus over Frog
4) Crono over Tommy Vercetti
5) Sonic over Diablo
6) Mega Man over Leon
7) Yoshi over Pac-Man


The following SHOULD happen:
1) Master Chief over Donkey Kong
2) Vincent over Dante
8) Tifa over Luigi
1) Squall over Knuckles

Not too sure:
Sora over Alucard
Solid Snake over Zelda

Clueless:
3) Ganondorf over Auron
3) Bowser over Ryu
2) Kirby over Tidus

Yeah...I don't really have any between "uncertain" and "almost certain" like most of you.

Ignore the jumbled numbers. I just copied and pasted somebody else's list and re-organized it. :P

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From: meche313 | Posted: 8/19/2005 7:57:31 PM | Message Detail
I had SSBM (twice) and Tails over V. Joe.
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From: Haste2 | Posted: 8/19/2005 7:58:28 PM | Message Detail
Oops...scratch that 2nd-to-last sentence. I made some adjustments after I typed in that statement. >.<

Hm, and I only called 5 of the Guru upsets. That's not good.

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From: MegatokyoEd | Posted: 8/19/2005 8:00:12 PM | Message Detail
10. 23.64% - Spring 2005 - Diablo def. Kefka Palazzo
12. 32.35% - Spring 2004 - Super Smash Bros. Melee def. Final Fantasy 10
13. 34.31% - Spring 2004 - Starcraft def. Halo
14. 40.00% - Spring 2005 - Diablo def. Mike Bison
15. 46.36% - Spring 2005 - Diablo def. Ridley
16. 48.74% - Summer 2004 - Ness def. Jak


Hmmm... I had 6. Not too bad I guess.
From: HaRRicH | Posted: 8/19/2005 8:01:18 PM | Message Detail
heh, Harrich, you gave up hope in Tidus > Bowser already?

Not COMPLETELY, but I ought as well have; the only thing left to see is if Kirby actually beats Tidus like our most recent signs are pointing to...though I still have a hard time believing Shadow over-performed against Mario proportionally to how over-rated Tidus really was. Should Kirby win, I'll have to concede to that argument no matter how much I disagree with it though.


Who would people pick in a Vincent vs. Tifa match?

Gut, preference, and selective logic would have me pickin' Tifa, heh. You can make a case for both characters winning.


But before this contest, Guy was the only one who even bothered looking outside the box and suggest that Pac Man could win. It's funny how everyone has seemingly jumped on the "Oh, this was hidden in the stats the entire time" bandwagon after Ocelot got his ass whipped.

Ahem? There were several people who gave enough credit to Pac to not be surprised if he won, and there were plenty of people who said it'd be a surprisingly close match. In fact, it was almost like a surge of this opinion came yesterday.


How many people would have taken Pac Man > Ocelot if the seeding was reversed?

I still think Jill could have beat Hayabusa if it was a 4/13-seed match instead of a 3/14-seed match, and I'm occasionally a seed-whore, heh...I pprroobbaabbllyy would have, since I figured this match would be close anyways.


FACT or FICTION: Mario will quadruple Ness tomorrow.

Ya know, though logic points to this being fact since Ness got 24.93% against Bowser in 2k3, I'm gonna say FICTION; I think that, between Ness gettin' more exposure since then and that I assume most Mario fans probably preferred Bowser to Ness anyways, Ness will get 20%-21% tomorrow. Perhaps that's just the crazy in me though.....


i've been right in a grand total of 5 of those, most of which involved Diablo......

Five here, too, none of which involved Diablo...dammit. *still angry that having Ridley instead of Diablo to win the Ruin Division cost me a perfect bracket*

4. 07.27% - Spring 2005 - Master Hand def. Kuja
8. 18.18% - Spring 2005 - Dr. Ivo "Eggman" Robotnik def. Master Hand
11. 30.25% - Summer 2004 - Miles "Tails" Prower def. Viewtiful Joe
12. 32.35% - Spring 2004 - Super Smash Bros. Melee def. Final Fantasy 10
16. 48.74% - Summer 2004 - Ness def. Jak


I wonder why people keep saying they're uncertain about Squall/Knuckles...Magus was simply overrated, nothing more.

Just because Knuckles caught us so off-guard. It doesn't hurt that Knuckles is generally more loved on this board than Squall, too.
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From: Fiop | Posted: 8/19/2005 8:05:15 PM | Message Detail
The only upsets on that list I got were all of the ones involving Spring 2005 excepting MH > Kuja. Which is 4 of them.
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From: sidharta | Posted: 8/19/2005 8:07:25 PM | Message Detail
14. 40.00% - Spring 2005 - Diablo def. Mike Bison
15. 46.36% - Spring 2005 - Diablo def. Ridley


I haven't been around for long, so those are the only "upsets" that I managed to get.

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From: charmander6000 | Posted: 8/19/2005 8:14:10 PM | Message Detail
I only got 2

8. 18.18% - Spring 2005 - Dr. Ivo "Eggman" Robotnik def. Master Hand
17. 49.58% - Summer 2004 - Tidus def. Shadow the Hedgehog

It's not like I have a cookie cutter bracket it's because all of my upsets don't work.
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