Remember when Mario got anti-voted? Yeah...

Anti-votes my ass! Morrigan and Serv-bot are the real deals!!
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MM are my INITIALS "There are only 10 kinds of people in this world, those that read binary and those that don't."

Leon needs to stop with such lies as...

Auron > Ganon
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Mario vs. Ness - Bracket: Mario - Vote: Mario (28/32)

The Ganon/Zelda support has been a constant over the first round. Seems like people are putting more faith in them when Link isnt around.
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Leon's Quest For Ultimate Glory:
1. Gordon Freeman; 2. Mega Man

I think it's more that Ganon was the runner up in the Spring Contest.

Wouldn't it be funny if he's getting the so-called anti-champion votes in his matches? :)
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.nS) quote of the week:
"It was like a zealot rush without any zealots." - Aegis

I still argue if Ganon overperformed because Link wasnt around in the Spring Contest, why wouldnt the same thing happen here.
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Leon's Quest For Ultimate Glory:
1. Gordon Freeman; 2. Mega Man

Because Link technically IS around...
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Contest 2005 Championship
Round 2: (3) Mag...Er...(6) Knuckles the Echidna

Well Link is tecnically in a different tournament.
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Leon's Quest For Ultimate Glory:
1. Gordon Freeman; 2. Mega Man

Well, we know that Ganondorf mooches off of Link's fanbase significantly enough as it is. I don't see how it could get even more extreme than that.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Contest 2005 Championship
Round 2: (3) Mag...Er...(6) Knuckles the Echidna

Well thats the excuse people were using for 'Dorf performance in the Spring...
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Leon's Quest For Ultimate Glory:
1. Gordon Freeman; 2. Mega Man

Why would a character's strength increase by any non-neglible amount due to someone else not being in the tournament? Do you honestly think a majority of these voters studied the bracket before voting?
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I was once a treehouse, I lived in a cake, but I never saw the way the orange slayed the rake.
Creator, owner, and operator of MPE

Dont look at me. I didnt use that excuse. That is the reason people stated for Bowser's and Ganondorf's overperformance in the Spring.
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Leon's Quest For Ultimate Glory:
1. Gordon Freeman; 2. Mega Man

When I was the average voter, I didn't even see the whole bracket..I just voted and went on with my life.
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"I dont know what I am talking about? I know more about gaming than 90 percent of the users on the internet." -xmagxus

Round 2 worst 10 prediction percentages:

1. StarCraft over Kingdom Hearts: 15.62%
2. Super Smash Bros. Meleee over Vice City: 22.03%
3. Frog over Master Chief: 22.56%
4. Magus over Ganondorf: 24.20%
5. Alucard over Duke Nukem: 28.80%
6. Zero over Tommy Vercetti: 31.57%
7. Jill Valentine over Bomberman: 32.50%
8. Scorpion over Max Payne: 33.60%
9. Ryu over Dante: 37.50%
10. Squall over Luigi: 38.10%

(Note: I'm going to throw round 2 of the Spring Contest, which includes Diablo > Bison and Robotnik > MH, in with the Sweet 16, count MH > Kuja as the 1st round, and pretend there never was a second round. So there.)

We're not going to hit it with this match, obviously, but we could see a good deal of matches end up in here.
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"It shall be engraved upon your soul! Divine Assault: Nibelung Valesti!" ~ Lenneth Valkyrie

We might see Mario in the top 10 highest 2nd round percentages.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Contest 2005 Championship
Round 2: (3) Mag...Er...(6) Knuckles the Echidna

I still don't get why people are saying that people voted in the Spring Contest different because it was a Villains Contest, or because of the absence of the heroes.

First of all, if the absence of the heroes were really a factor, then Sephiroth should have gained from Cloud not being there too, right? Second, the contest was STILL a popularity contest as listed in the rules. People voted in the same manner that they did in any other contest.

Besides, if people voted on who was the better villain, then why would BOWSER overperform on SEPHIROTH with all the FFVII fanboys lurking around? As much as it would please me, I highly doubt they would correctly choose Bowser as the better villain.... <_<
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MM are my INITIALS "There are only 10 kinds of people in this world, those that read binary and those that don't."

Mario is SFFing Ness by about 35% right now.
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Leon's Quest For Ultimate Glory:
1. Gordon Freeman; 2. Mega Man

Ganon's got himself into a lose-lose position. Either he loses to Auron, or has to face Samus and get SFF-raped. I won't be as bad as against Link obviously, but I don't think it will be pretty.
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I need to put something here.

I don't think he'd get SFFed that badly by Samus.
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MM are my INITIALS "There are only 10 kinds of people in this world, those that read binary and those that don't."

Ganondorf will do surprisingly well against Samus. Surprisingly well if you expect extreme SFF, anyway.
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Board 8: Where people treat each other right.

He'll get 25% methinks.


~RPGGamer~

I wonder: if Zelda and Metroid were made by different companies, would anyone call Ganon/Samus SFF? they're two totally different games with only Nintendo in common.

meanwhile, we've got Tifa/Vyse which are both RPGs, yet it's not SFF because it's two different companies.
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I'd agree with about 25% for Ganon, except that Ganon won't be in that match anyway so his fans won't have to see him bomb again.

I wonder: if Zelda and Metroid were made by different companies, would anyone call Ganon/Samus SFF? they're two totally different games with only Nintendo in common.

meanwhile, we've got Tifa/Vyse which are both RPGs, yet it's not SFF because it's two different companies.

Reminds me of Link vs Mega Man SFF. Which most people seem to still be undecided on the existaece of. But no, if they weren't both from Nintendo, I don't think Ganon would do quite as badly.
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I need to put something here.

Existence*

Wow that typo looks ugly.
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I need to put something here.

I rather have Auron win that match just so we can get a better accurate reading on both of them for the final time.
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"I dont know what I am talking about? I know more about gaming than 90 percent of the users on the internet." -xmagxus

I'd rather have Auron win for other reasons...
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.nS) quote of the week:
"It was like a zealot rush without any zealots." - Aegis

I think Ganon could get 40% on Samus. I really don't see much SFF, if at all.
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25%? You guys are selling him way short. I'd pick Ganondorf to avoid the doubling at the very least and wouldn't be surprised to see him in the upper 30s.
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Board 8: Where people treat each other right.

I'd pick Ganon to threaten breaking 40%.

~*ST*~
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Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest
"If my fate is to be destroyed... I must simply laugh!" -Magus

Holy - ****in' - ****; I had to nearly kill somebody to defend my brother tonight. I'm...still stressed, to say the least.


1) I'm so glad Pac-Man took down so many brackets with him, and it never hurts that both the perfects and the 1's were completely eliminated; that rules.

2) Ness is gettin' stomped, but at least we're learning something anyways (though I think many of us thought it already); he's obviously gettin' SFF'd like he did against Bowser in 2k3. However, at least opposed to what I predicted for today's match, you can't "only be SFF'd so much from one series." I knew Mario is very much stronger than Bowser, yet I still didn't think Mario'd get over 80% against Ness. I figured most Mario fans would have already abandoned Ness for Bowser, but I suppose that's not the case here...then again though, I'm workin' with two-year-old data and the ever-tricky SFF, so maybe I'm not all that off...

...for what it's worth though, using 2k3's stats of SFF'd Ness VS Mario, Mario should have 79.78% of the votes in this match. The higher Mario stays and assuming things are still stable with Ness/Bowser/Mario from 2k3 to 2k5, that means the more people that have preference of Mario > Ness > Bowser than I once thought...which seems somewhat weird to me, though certainly not impossible.

3) I'd predict Ganon to just barely get under 35% against Samus.
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Hillary Clinton: We need to treat violent video games the way we treat tobacco or alcohol.
Lewis Black: Namely as valued contributors to our re-election fund.

...I never noticed that "Ness" was "SNES" with a different order of letters until someone on the EarthBound board noted it. All the more reason to love his ass.

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Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest
"If my fate is to be destroyed... I must simply laugh!" -Magus

Now see, I don't know who thought SFF had its limits based on who is from what game, but I've always believed that SFF would be greater if the characters were further apart in strength to begin with. Seems pretty clear to me here.
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Now Link, fill up your hearts
So you can shoot your sword with power

And of course, we know what that means for Ganon, bwahahahhahha.
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Now Link, fill up your hearts
So you can shoot your sword with power

Yup. Samus >>> Ganon
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My Summer Contest Score: 26/32 - Todays Pick: Mario
KingBartz: Been a Virgin since '87

Mario is doing somewhat better than I would have expected even taking any SFF into account. Would it be fair to say that Ness has more support as a result of SSBM than Earthbound?
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Jon Thomson - MARIO, Samus, SOLID SNAKE, Bowser, CRONO, Squall, Sonic, MEGA MAN

Neaing 500. . .
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"Damn! I am never going to win in this game of life."- Oreon

Mario>Samus
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"Damn! I am never going to win in this game of life."- Oreon

NO Samus>Mario
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Goldberg entertained me when he jobbed to inanimate objects.-The icon ownz all

We shall see. . .
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"Damn! I am never going to win in this game of life."- Oreon

I'm not surprised Mario is crushing Ness. With or without SSF (there might be a little, I think).
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Today's subliminal thought is:

This is the contest of the casual voter, and he/she likes Mario.
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"Damn! I am never going to win in this game of life."- Oreon

So close. . .
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"Damn! I am never going to win in this game of life."- Oreon

MRAIO!!11!1!!
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My Summer Contest Score: 26/32 - Todays Pick: Mario
KingBartz: Been a Virgin since '87

Indeed.
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"Damn! I am never going to win in this game of life."- Oreon

Ness getting more support from SSB/M than EarthBound has been relatively obvious for awhile.

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Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest
"If my fate is to be destroyed... I must simply laugh!" -Magus

And Mario is going to absolutely crush Samus into the ground.

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Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest
"If my fate is to be destroyed... I must simply laugh!" -Magus

How did Ness beat CJ again? Oh yeah, awful match pick.

Congrats on the wedding, Ulti! I forget, has it happened yet, or is it coming soon?
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"Damn! I am never going to win in this game of life."- Oreon

Mario is the favorite to win the normal bracket now, IMO.
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"Damn! I am never going to win in this game of life."- Oreon

Oh yeah, awful match pick.

A match pic isn't going to make up enough of a difference for CJ to have won. CJ just got his ass whipped.

And the wedding is tomorrow. I'm only going to be on for a little while this morning, then I have a rehearsal lunch before getting started on all the good stuff.

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Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest
"If my fate is to be destroyed... I must simply laugh!" -Magus

Mario > Cloud > Link > Sephiroth

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Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest
"If my fate is to be destroyed... I must simply laugh!" -Magus

Well, Since my bracket is gone, the only thing I hope now is no FF7 chracter wins this contest Now that would suck.
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Goldberg entertained me when he jobbed to inanimate objects.-The icon ownz all