And when Bowser and Ganon proceed to rip through their opponents, these people are all going to turn around and act like there were hidden signs all over the stats that made it clear from the beginning.

The prospect of Stats Topic regs outfitted in a brown trench coats, top hats, magnifying glasses, and hand crafted pipes searching for "hidden signs" amuses me tremendously.
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Board 8: Where people treat each other right.

I'm trying to figure out why the stats are even an object of discussion anymore. We'd be better off sitting back and enjoying the show.

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2nd Place, Spring Contest 2005
World Champion: Gyruss, Link's Awakening, Mega Man X, Solstice, Super Mario World, Zombies Ate My Neighbors

Well, believe it or not, this actually makes me feel a lot better for Snake (though I'm still unsure how Ocelot was able to do so well on Bowser). This seems to be a case of Pac-Man being underrated by the stats than the other way around, as well as the factor that Big Boss and Ocelot simply aren't going to get votes from the MGS3 crowd without having the names and pictures from the game that make them recognizable.

Actually, just scratch that. I just plain don't see the X-Stats being a good indicator of a lot of the next matches. I wouldn't be surprised if Snake pulled 60% on Zelda next round.
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"i started playing mario brothers as luigi and threw the controller down in disgust in the middle of the game because he lacked character"--gokujont

The only bad thing about Pac-Man winning is that Yoshi is going to pull of a Luigi.

Unless it's a Luigi only thing

>_>
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I've been Pwned by KoaC. He really is the king of all cosmos.

Ocelot was obviously overrated, because he's based on a Bowser on roids.

Seriously, it's a mix of both. I'm somewhat surprised, but not overly so.
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"You can't have gone over a kilometer up. 1500 meters, tops." -Samus Aran
"I'll express my love to you slowly, later." -Setzer Gabbiani

Yeah, Pac-Man/Ocelot's standings in the final stats may very well be horrid.
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"i started playing mario brothers as luigi and threw the controller down in disgust in the middle of the game because he lacked character"--gokujont

Luigi's older than Yoshi though, so that's not a sure thing.
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"You can't have gone over a kilometer up. 1500 meters, tops." -Samus Aran
"I'll express my love to you slowly, later." -Setzer Gabbiani

Well, on the down side, we won't get to see that person shave himself and jump into a vat of oil. =/
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"i started playing mario brothers as luigi and threw the controller down in disgust in the middle of the game because he lacked character"--gokujont

Pac-Man rules. Carry on, Pac Attack.
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Hillary Clinton: We need to treat violent video games the way we treat tobacco or alcohol.
Lewis Black: Namely as valued contributors to our re-election fund.

Ocelot just made a big jump.
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Summer Contest Score: 29/31
Today's Pick: Revolver Ocelot

Pac-Man will probably make a bigger jump
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I've been Pwned by KoaC. He really is the king of all cosmos.

act like there were hidden signs all over the stats that made it clear from the beginning.

Except when you are a "Delusional" Squall fanboy who thinks Magus is overrated and then ends up being correct, right?



KB

As a lifelong gamer, and avid fan of the old classics...it is extremely satisfying to see Pac Man getting the job done against a fanboy driven nobody like Ocelot.

In a few years..who will talk about Ocelot? Nobody but the diehard Metal Gearians...but the Pac will live forever.

Look for my Round 1 Summary column tonight, since my loyal fans want it! :)
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Steve Illumina: 'Sage of Board 8', Adored by Elites, Hated by Fanbabies, Loved by Girly Gamers!

Also satisfying to see these stat geeks put in their place...believing in silly stats...how many times did I tell ya all they are a mere tool...not the law of contestology?

Now, to take up the pen for the cause of gaming...look for it around midnight or so tonight when most of the kiddies aint posting...as they sleep in their beddies...wetting their panties....lol
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Steve Illumina: 'Sage of Board 8', Adored by Elites, Hated by Fanbabies, Loved by Girly Gamers!

Pac-Man has a lead of 1000
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I've been Pwned by KoaC. He really is the king of all cosmos.

And Pac-Man breaks 1000.
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Summer Contest Score: 29/31
Today's Pick: Revolver Ocelot

I think Ulti's off his rocker. So the X-stats aren't perfect? Big ****ing whoop, they were never meant to be. Until Gordon Freeman is winning the contest, I will continue to acknowledge the X-stats as a general guide at the very least.
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"Thank you, Mario. But our princess is in another castle."
-Toad in Super Mario Bros.

Looks like Pac-Man's gonna win, though it's still not finished yet. Does anybody think we'll still have a perfect out of the four left?
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Hillary Clinton: We need to treat violent video games the way we treat tobacco or alcohol.
Lewis Black: Namely as valued contributors to our re-election fund.

I would say that they're mostly favorites so I think one might survive.
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I've been Pwned by KoaC. He really is the king of all cosmos.

Yea, I bet all four are still perfect.


HYH
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Kato: So you fight because of.. your beliefs?
Yuri: No. Because of my destiny.

ehh, its gets a general guide for me AT THE MOST.

=/
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Summer 2005 Contest Score : 30/31
Rank : 5/33793 Today: Ocelot Tomorrow: Mario

Now Bowser was on 'roids in the Spring Contest? Even though that was the first time he was able to get an extended amount of matches under his belt? Because he did better than expected on Sephiroth? Because EVERY result that happened 2 years ago in 2k3 were perfect and everything that happens from then that contradict those results is obviously a fluke?

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MM are my INITIALS "There are only 10 kinds of people in this world, those that read binary and those that don't."

From: steve illumina | Posted: 8/19/2005 11:02:04 AM | Message Detail
Also satisfying to see these stat geeks put in their place...believing in silly stats...how many times did I tell ya all they are a mere tool...not the law of contestology?

Go get 'em, steve! ...but next time, try explaining how silly these stats are to yourself, first. Maybe then you wouldn't have picked Ocelot right along with the rest of us silly geeks.

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the-elite.net
Ngamer's Contest Archives: http://thengamer.com/gamefaqs/

wow, nice lead. can't say it's unexpected after last night, though.

I said a couple days ago that 2 would pick Ocelot and 2 Pac-Man. I think Pac-Man will be the bracket favourite, too, though only by a couple percent. argh, I should have stuck with Pac-Man in my bracket; oh well, that thing's shot to hell anyway.



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http://picturesofwalls.com

Pac is running away now, this match was over before it even started.

I realized that Luigi got old-school SFF Pac-Man last year, but I figured Ocelot would still be stronger. Then the closer this match came, the closer I saw the match being. Then last night, I finally realized that Pac was going to take this.

Well...Master Hand'D.
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Moltar's Comics - http://www.stripcreator.com/comics/Moltar
Ocelot vs. Pac-Man - Bracket: Ocelot - Vote: Ocelot (28/31)

All round one matches with <50% Prediction Percentage:

1. StarCraft over Halo: 24.09%
2. Knuckles over Magus: 35.08%
3. Vivi over Donkey Kong: 35.13%
4. Tommy Vercetti over Kefka: 37.66%
5. Master Hand over Kuja: 39.11%
6. Shadow over Wario: 42.10%
7. Morrigan over Spyro: 42.30%
8. KOS-MOS over Crash: 42.50%
9. Knuckles over Kefka: 43.05%
10. Kefka over Pac-Man 43.50%
11. Leon Kennedy over Gordon Freeman: 43.62%
12. Tina Armstrong over Gordon Freeman: 43.70%
13. Frog over Liquid Snake: 44.33%
14. Kingdom Hearts over Soul Calibur: 45.45%
15. Miles "Tails" Prower over Viewtiful Joe: 46.30%
16. Zero over Scorpion: 47.30%
17. Ganondorf over Tidus: 47.70%
18. Super Mario RPG over Street Fighter II: 47.83%
19. XenoGears over Pokemon G/S/C: 48.20%
20. Diablo over Ridley: 48.32%
21. Ryu Hayabusa over Jill Valentine: 48.56%

Where does this one fit in?
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"It shall be engraved upon your soul! Divine Assault: Nibelung Valesti!" ~ Lenneth Valkyrie

uh... Pac-Man is most likely to be the bracket favorite. He was the favorite to beat Kefka (who was the favorite to beat Knuxs and Vercetti)
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I've been Pwned by KoaC. He really is the king of all cosmos.

I think people noticed how Revolver handled himself well in the Villain Contest (look no further than the prediction percentages for Ganon, Bowser, Kefka, and Diablo). I doubt Pac-Man's cause is helped by him not winning a match since 2k2 (and he beat two characters who haven't been seen since), including the Game Contest. It also doesn't hurt that Revolver's a two-seed, and you have my case for Revolver being the bracket-favorite. I figure Pac-Man's takin' 43%-45% (closer to 43%) of the bracket support.
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Hillary Clinton: We need to treat violent video games the way we treat tobacco or alcohol.
Lewis Black: Namely as valued contributors to our re-election fund.

Yeah, Pac will be over 50%.


~RPGGamer~

I wouldn't be surprised at all for Pac-Man to be the favorite.
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"Thank you, Mario. But our princess is in another castle."
-Toad in Super Mario Bros.

Wow, Pac-Man is leading? This is a big a shock as Knuckles over Magus was.
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Today's subliminal thought is:

^^^Not necessarily. In all those cases, the higher seeded character had the bracket advantage.

Though I think Pac-man certainly could have the bracket advantage, it's not a forgone conclusion.
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I can move mountains

I'm thinking the same as Harrich. Pac-Man usually takes alot of the brackets, but people did pay attention to the Spring Contest.

I'm calling Pac-Man in the high 40's.
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Moltar's Comics - http://www.stripcreator.com/comics/Moltar
Ocelot vs. Pac-Man - Bracket: Ocelot - Vote: Ocelot (28/31)

(my post was directed to charmander6000)
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I can move mountains

To answer the question: Pac-Man will probably get ~53% of the brackets. Ocelot was the board favorite, but Pac-Man will be the casual favourite.
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Today's subliminal thought is:

I could see Pac-Man with 60%+ bracket support easily. My guess is that normal bracket-makers would have taken the gaming icon without a whole lot of thought.
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ALL YOUR VOTES ARE BELONG TO...Pac-Man?

How does the night vote work with MGS characters? I can see Ocelot making a mad run near the end.
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Today's subliminal thought is:

It won't be a mad run. MGS does okay in the night, IIRC, but Ocelot was gaining *very* slowly at the beginning of the poll (first night vote). I can't see him making up the vote differential at that pace.
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"i started playing mario brothers as luigi and threw the controller down in disgust in the middle of the game because he lacked character"--gokujont

Revolver didn't make a mad run with the night AND board vote this morning; it'd take a good miracle and a better Romero to make up the difference Pac-Man's gonna make.
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Hillary Clinton: We need to treat violent video games the way we treat tobacco or alcohol.
Lewis Black: Namely as valued contributors to our re-election fund.

Well, technically, the board vote favored Pac-Man.
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"i started playing mario brothers as luigi and threw the controller down in disgust in the middle of the game because he lacked character"--gokujont

Which adds to my point; the board vote usually favors Revolver, and Pac-Man took it away from him.
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Hillary Clinton: We need to treat violent video games the way we treat tobacco or alcohol.
Lewis Black: Namely as valued contributors to our re-election fund.

Ocelot would need almost 10 votes per every 5 minute update to come back. I just don't see that happening.
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http://picturesofwalls.com

Which adds to my point; the board vote usually favors Revolver, and Pac-Man took it away from him.

No, it really doesn't. The night vote favored Ocelot, but the board vote didn't--so it actually hurt him more than it helped him. So, all things being equal, a second night vote (assuming it would be equal to the first, which it in all certainty isn't) would be more beneficial than the first, which was the opposite of the point that you were illustrating.
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"i started playing mario brothers as luigi and threw the controller down in disgust in the middle of the game because he lacked character"--gokujont

From: RPGuy96 | Posted: 8/19/2005 6:53:26 PM | #326
All round one matches with <50% Prediction Percentage:

18. Super Mario RPG over Street Fighter II: 47.83%

SF2 lost?
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Jon Thomson - MARIO, Samus, SOLID SNAKE, Bowser, CRONO, Squall, Sonic, MEGA MAN

You know, no matter how many times I hear it: I always knew SF2 was going to lose to a Nintendo/Square RPG.
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Today's subliminal thought is:

I cant believe there are people still trying to defend any of the X-Stats. We just need to start over and rethink how we calculate them.
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Leon's Quest For Ultimate Glory:
1. Gordon Freeman; 2. Mega Man

So no ones suspected stuffing yet?

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Can't think of a good sig.

...why would anyone stuff in this match?
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"i started playing mario brothers as luigi and threw the controller down in disgust in the middle of the game because he lacked character"--gokujont

For Pac-Man?!?
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Leon's Quest For Ultimate Glory:
1. Gordon Freeman; 2. Mega Man

Nope. Pac-Man's just eating up votes that conveniently look like dots.
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The King of all Cosmos' route to summer victory:
Round 1: (0) Voters