Luigi is alot like DK and Pac-Man many people will vote for you, but if he's against some one else you know/like people will abandon you.

Oh, so the site doesn't know who Ocelot, Kefka, Vercetti, and Ryu are, but they know who Sam Fisher and Scorpion are? Hmph.
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Luigi is a bit different from DK and Pac-Man anyway. He does have a lot of hardcore fans (myself included).
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Also, does anyone think this might be another match where the board underdog is the bracket favorite? Pac-Man's been in this situation before.
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Wouldn't be surprised if Pac-Man was the bracket favourite.

The reason I picked Revolver was because his Spring Contest performance was still fresh in my mind, heh. Otherwise I might've gone w/ Pac-Man.
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Oh, and at this point, Ocelot's performance puts Bowser below Ryu's 2004 number, for what it's worth. That match still looks to be up in the air.
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Even if I will vote for Ryu, I think Bowser will take it. The other Mario characters looks stronger tha never and I can't see Rikku being close to Bowser's strength.
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I can't see Rikku being close to Bowser's strength.

I can!
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Well, I was basing Ocelot off of 2003 Pac-Man, actually, not Sp2K5. I don't trust the Spring Contest values enough to use them in serious calculations. Plus, it was more just FYI than anything else. I don't think this is a harbinger of Bowser's doom or anything, but it doesn't make him look any better.
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Ocelot just took 20 off of the lead in the last update. Let's see if he's showing the signs of a comeback now.
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From: AmazingKirby | Posted: 8/19/2005 11:30:18 AM | #257
I can't see Rikku being close to Bowser's strength.

I can!

You can see Rikku beating Link, so that point is absolutely worthless.
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RPGuy makes some very convincing arguments that I desperately hope are true. Luigi 4 Life.
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And now it looks like it was just a fluke.
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Funny. I just made some quick calculations, and it seems that to the board this match is the second biggest upset of all time. I always felt the BOP consensuses were way too big, but damn, two upsets bigger than Starcraft over Wind Waker...
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I'm surprised that more people didn't really expect it to be close enough for Pac-Man to win. I thought, even before the contest, that Ocelot would get 55% max.
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I thought it'd be close... but I just went with my gut, and the hand gesture. Seemed to screw me over. I keep hoping Ocelot can come back, no matter how much I know he can't after his pathetic night performance.

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Yah I knew this was going to be close, but I used Ocelot > Kefka logic to put Ocelot over Pac-Man.
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Well, hope isn't completely lost for Ocelot. He's not looking good, but he's not quite in no man's land yet.

And huzzah! I'm one step closer to unlimited posting with this account!
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Could this be Ocelot's stand? For my sake I hope so. Find out in less than a minute!

If that's not compelling, I don't know what is.

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And then Pac-Man makes a big jump.
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Wow... three updates of relative stalls and then a 56 vote surge.

****.

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Could this be Ocelot's stand? For my sake I hope so. Find out in less than a minute!

Nope
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Pac-Man looks like he's really starting to take off now.
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Yeah, he just nailed another 50 vote gainer...

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From: RPGuy96 | Posted: 8/19/2005 3:26:43 PM | #229
So now we've seen Bowser, Yoshi, Luigi, and Pac-Man all do better than expected and you guys still think Luigi *overperformed* on Pac-Man? What will it take for you guys to give Luigi some credit?

Bowser did more or less what I expected. Yoshi did more or less what I expected. Luigi did a bit better coupled with what I expected to be a significant drop for KOS-MOS. I always thought this would be close and Pac-Man had a chance. Luigi will get some credit if he pulls 40% against Tifa.
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Wow, what a first round. I woke up, voted for Pac-Man, was once again shocked at the result. What surprises me even more, though, is that you guys have only ran through like 300-350 posts since the poll began. I was expecting at LEAST two full topics once I saw the poll results.

And I've never lost so many points in the first round (4), yet I still feel really confident in most of the rest of my bracket (everything except for Squall > Vincent and Sonic > Tifa).
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It's because this is the most boring "close" match ever.

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So hypothetically speaking, Vyse pretty much has to have dropped unless Tifa wins the main bracket right?
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And Ocelot takes a 30 vote bite out of crime.

These are some weird voting patterns.

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True this topic will be buring like mad if Ocelot decides say to make a comeback, but he most likely won't until the night vote and that will be too late.
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So hypothetically speaking, Vyse pretty much has to have dropped unless Tifa wins the main bracket right?

Not technically.... it's thought of by many that once you get a high end character like that, and more or less Fodder, things can get a little wacky. I think he dropped, but not massively.

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She'll either at least make it to the finals, or the voting trends simply won't be transitive if he didn't.
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What surprises me even more, though, is that you guys have only ran through like 300-350 posts since the poll began. I was expecting at LEAST two full topics once I saw the poll results.

I'm guessing it's a combination of a rather boring close match and the fact that most people's brackets are already dead.
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You're dead to me yo, dead.

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Oh what the holy bramble mittens, another 40 votes for Pac... these trends are annoying the hell out of me.

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It's also just not that important to most of the people in this topic--unlike Knux/Magus, which not only was a huge bracket breaker, but contradicted two years of Magus Noble Nine Contendership hopes.

...I really hate to see what the X-Stats are going to look like when all is said and done. Though at least there isn't the massive SFF anymore.
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"i started playing mario brothers as luigi and threw the controller down in disgust in the middle of the game because he lacked character"--gokujont

Hell, even if I lose this match I am still alive as far as my bracket is concerned.

But still this is a boring close match.

^_^


KB

Now watch as Mario rSSF's Samus to win with 55% of the vote and beats Sonic in the finals with 52%. Madness, I tell ya.
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So assuming the premise of transitivity between years and matches still hold, anyone that beats Tifa will be a favourite?

Just thought it'll be interesting if say, Tifa loses to Sonic, and the Sonic loses to MM, etc; up to the point where if Vyse didn't drop, you'd have MM above Sephy or something like that.
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Well I still think Tifa will go down to Sonic, who will then go down to MM.... so yeah, Vyse dropped.

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With what we've seen now, if Sonic/Mega Man beats Tifa, Vyse would have HAD to drop--a lot, unless, of course, we take that pesky transitivity into account again.
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And 30 more votes for Pac. **** you 5 minute updates.

Well I've had enough of this, be back later to see Pac dominating some more.

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It's safely to say that the Pac-Man curse is gone.
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Vyse will have dropped, book it. Apart from a few rabid fans which any character will have, his casual support (and that from the likes of Laharl, KOS-MOS et al) will have moved on to the RPG flavour of the month, which is seemingly that one Lloyd's in, whatever it's called.
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From: RPGuy96 | Posted: 8/19/2005 10:26:43 AM | Message Detail | #229
So now we've seen Bowser, Yoshi, Luigi, and Pac-Man all do better than expected and you guys still think Luigi *overperformed* on Pac-Man? What will it take for you guys to give Luigi some credit?

Guy, haven't you noticed that people are going to say whatever they have to to make sure that the stats make sense during every match in which the stats are proven to be ****ed up? After all, Ocelot not doing well today makes it obvious that Bowser and Ganon overperformed in every single one of their matches in the Spring and that Luigi SFFd Pac Man despite not being from the same company or on the same system!

Obvious SFF, just like Link vs Mega Man! And when Bowser and Ganon proceed to rip through their opponents, these people are all going to turn around and act like there were hidden signs all over the stats that made it clear from the beginning.




lol, x-stats

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From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 8/19/2005 5:27:21 PM | #297
Luigi SFFd Pac Man despite not being from the same company or on the same system!

Pac-Man came out on the NES :-)

Just looked at the next couple of match pics. Kirby vs. Pac-Man in this format could have been quite amusing.
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Ulti, that act wasn't funny the first time, it wasn't funny the 50th time, and it won't be funny the 765th time.
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