Scha... you obviously took him up on the wrong point. Vincent getting past Dante? 0%, buddy.

But seriously... Mario beating Sephiroth and Cloud is as credible as Vincent beating all those guys and Tifa beating all those other guys if you ask me. Not very likely.
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Dante fact of the post: Dante has 1/12th the interesting facts Raiden does, but that's no fault of Dante, considering the average is 1/492nd.

Maybe more so than thinking Mario will take it all? I say YES!

In this case, no.
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It's just not the same without this name.
Faithful supporter of Squall Leonhart in SC2K5

Sephiroth wouldn't break 60% on Mario again.

Of course he wouldn't -- he couldn't even break it on Bowser.

But Mario winning from Cloud? Not happening.
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even when a pawn becomes a queen, it's still just a playing piece -President Johnson, MGS2. SC2k5: 27/29. Today: Leon, tomorrow: Yoshi

Mario beating Sephiroth and Cloud is as credible as Vincent beating all those guys and Tifa beating all those other guys if you ask me. Not very likely.

It's less credible until Mario 128 because it's 0%. As far as we know, there's still a chance of Vincent and Tifa being capable of it.
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I still don't see this reaching above 60-40 by the end. But we'll see... Gordon does the best at the very beginning, so who knows?
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Freeman may finally get blown away in this match (and by blown I mean less then 40%)

That was almost a given...
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Leonhart is on a mission to shoot down every comment made in this topic before the night ends! ;)
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MM are my INITIALS "There are only 10 kinds of people in this world, those that read binary and those that don't."

Hey, I'm bored. It's not like I've got anything else to do.
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Faithful supporter of Squall Leonhart in SC2K5

The point I'm trying to make is that the only thing you guys can do is make educated guesses based off of past results, and you're oftentimes wrong. If you weren't, everyone on the board would have perfect brackets and be in a 2000 way tie for first place. Some guesses are more reasonable than others, but they're still just guesses. Characters are more in polls than arbitrary, wide ranges of numbers. Voters are not transitive, linear robots.

You don't know for an absolute fact what will happen in any given match, nor can you always accurately relate them to what will happen a full year later. Mario could win the entire thing. It's unlikely, but not impossible.

Threw the X-stats out the window, Seph has CRUSHED Mario DIRECTLY.

*rewind to 2004*

Throw the Xsts out the window. Cloud already beat Link, and there's no point in running this contest again.

~*ST*~
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"If my fate is to be destroyed... I must simply laugh!" -Magus

Leonhart is on a mission to shoot down every comment made in this topic before the night ends! ;)

PARADOX'D
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Squall is a terrible, terrible pile of crap.
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Board 8: Where people treat each other right.

That was almost a given...

Just like Sam was right?

*has to stop bringing that up*
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I've been Pwned by KoaC. He really is the king of all cosmos.

Then here's a comment for him to try to shoot down: Knuckles > Squall.

Can't shoot down facts, good sir. =P
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Lewis Black: Namely as valued contributors to our re-election fund.

Gamefaqs hates Resident Evil.

I hate Gamefaqs. ;_;
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Leon's Quest For Ultimate Glory:
1. Tripling Gordon Freeman.

Can't shoot down facts, good sir. =P

That's true, but it's not a fact unless you reverse the sign.
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Mario can't win. It's not part of the plan.
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Throw the Xsts out the window. Cloud already beat Link, and there's no point in running this contest again.

There's a big difference between 60/40 and 52/48.
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Hmm, Freeman jumped a percent on the second update. I really don't think Leon's gonna take this over 60%.
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Throw the Xsts out the window. Cloud already beat Link, and there's no point in running this contest again.

A ridiculous comparison. Cloud beat Link with a whopping 51%.

Sephiroth beat Mario with 61%. You're insane if you think that Mario will magically boost exponentially for no reason and win the contest.
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"Thank you, Mario. But our princess is in another castle."
-Toad in Super Mario Bros.

Gamefaqs hates Resident Evil.

But they cannot resist the sexy Nemesis.

Well in Leon's defense, Sam didnt start gaining against GF at all until 5 or 6 hours into the contest. And then he gained 5 percents.
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Leon's Quest For Ultimate Glory:
1. Tripling Gordon Freeman.

*looks at Seph/Mega Man from 2k2 and 2k3*
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The King of all Cosmos' route to summer victory:
Round 1: (0) Voters

You're insane if you think that Mario will magically boost exponentially for no reason and win the contest.

Oh, those whacky stats. You can't trust them for anything. Mario could theoretically beat Link, regardless of what the stats say. They're almost NEVER accurate.
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Faithful supporter of Squall Leonhart in SC2K5

*rewind to 2004*

Throw the Xsts out the window. Cloud already beat Link, and there's no point in running this contest again.

Cloud won by a hair's width in 2k3 and so did Link in 2k4.

Seph CRUSHED Mario, not just won by a hair's width.

And just for the record, I hope Mario will NEVER won a single contest EVER!

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Ulti, sometimes I wonder if you wont be happy until the X-Stats are retired...
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Leon's Quest For Ultimate Glory:
1. Tripling Gordon Freeman.

As far as this whole Mario winning the whole thing idea...

Sure, it's POSSIBLE, but it's at least 1000-1. Nothing's happened for him in the past year, and we do have concrete stats from last year saying that he'll have a problem getting past Crono, Samus is unknown and that Link, Cloud, and Sephiroth should beat him handily.

Do any anomalies exist for Mario that would change around his ranking? Hell, there are much more that would make him LOWER than we expect.
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Looks like his quest failed, eh NewLib? I'll say it again. Kratos > Leon Kennedy. Hell it may be Kratos Aurion > Leon Kennedy. Heh.

I'm still holding my vote here... I usually vote with my bracket on these matches where I don't really have a preference, (neither really has a picture advantage) but I can't say that helping the universe implode isn't tempting.
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Leon before Magus/Knuckles: "Ganon cannot have possibly gotten the same increase as Link between 2003 and 2004. Just look at Alucard/Ganon 2004!"

Leon after Magus/Knuckles: "Ganon was clearly overrated by the 2003 stats and actually DID get Link's boost! It's sooo obvious!"

Lol, X-Stat Blinders.

~*ST*~
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"If my fate is to be destroyed... I must simply laugh!" -Magus

Hey, Raiden didnt make the contest so sush.
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Leon's Quest For Ultimate Glory:
1. Tripling Gordon Freeman.

Wow, almost never accurate, eh? I guess that's why they're right on 90% of the time.

They were never meant to be perfect. Get over it.
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"Thank you, Mario. But our princess is in another castle."
-Toad in Super Mario Bros.

Well in Leon's defense, Sam didnt start gaining against GF at all until 5 or 6 hours into the contest. And then he gained 5 percents.

True. But I think Leon's going to be hovering around 60... probably 50/50 as far as whether he breaks it or not.
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"Ganon cannot have possibly gotten the same increase as Link between 2003 and 2004. Just look at Alucard/Ganon 2004!"

That's not what I said. I said that it's ridiculous to assume that Ganondorf got a boost a year later than Link did when he showed apparent signs of getting nothing in 2003.

And it turns out it was ridiculous.
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Leon before Magus/Knuckles: "Ganon cannot have possibly gotten the same increase as Link between 2003 and 2004. Just look at Alucard/Ganon 2004!"

Leon after Magus/Knuckles: "Ganon was clearly overrated by the 2003 stats and actually DID get Link's boost! It's sooo obvious!"

Lol, X-Stat Blinders.

~*ST*~

If that's your argument for Mario winning the contest, you might as well concede the argument right now.

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even when a pawn becomes a queen, it's still just a playing piece -President Johnson, MGS2. SC2k5: 27/29. Today: Leon, tomorrow: Yoshi

Oh, and "lol, anti-xstat fanboy."
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Faithful supporter of Squall Leonhart in SC2K5

Raiden would be doing better than this. I guarantee it.

And hey, Mario beat Cloud in 2k2, then he lost to Sephiroth in 2k3 by a huge margin. Who's to say he can't make a reverse jump to beat Cloud in 2k5. Mario > Cloud isn't too much less likely than Vincent > Crono or Tifa > Mega Man/Sonic. I believe this.
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From: NewLib | Posted: 8/17/2005 3:16:05 AM | Message Detail | #275
Ulti, sometimes I wonder if you wont be happy until the X-Stats are retired...

I'll be happy when the stats don't have fanboys who try to adjust for every factor under the sun in an attempt to have them make sense whenever something goes wrong. When the stats predict something, all is peachy. When the stats are off by a fair amount, everyone scrambles around like ants in an effort to keep them looking as perfect and accurate as possible. The thought of voters simply changing their minds -- Or, get this! -- new voters coming to vote in the polls and throwing out the ridiculous assumption of transitivity is not allowed.

All of the stats are unreliable at best. They're a good medium for a general idea, but not much else. Fun to calculate, fun to look at, fun to debate, but they'll cause your bracket to go through hell and are void of factoring in human variables and ranges.

~*ST*~
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"If my fate is to be destroyed... I must simply laugh!" -Magus

Ahh, GFNW. For as many curveballs as this contest has thrown us something never change.
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Now Link, fill up your hearts
So you can shoot your sword with power

So does this mean Jill > Leon? (makes you wish Jill was here instead of Wesker). There is still a lot of time for Leon to increase his percentage but I am not sure how much he actually needs to make him greater than his RE counterpart.

Can't be doing with that downtime. Still, at least the universe is safe for another year.
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Freeman losing...it's good to see some traditions never die.

But looks like even 60% is going to be a push for Leon...told you guys he was going to dissappoint.
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Gordon vs. Leon - Bracket: Leon - Vote: Leon (26/29)

Is Leon really disappointing though? Who knows maybe Half-Life 2 gave Gordon a significant boost?
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Gordon... over... 40%... again? Hopefully it's HL2 at work, because if it's not then Leon is one hell of a weak bastard. Hey, Wesker is, so I wouldn't exactly be surprised.

And what in the world did Ulti eat tonight? I think I lost 10 ****ing IQ points there.
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"You can't have gone over a kilometer up. 1500 meters, tops." -Samus Aran
"I'll express my love to you slowly, later." -Setzer Gabbiani

I blame his upcoming marriage.

Anyway, unless Mario had a major boost from PM2 and whatever Party and sports games he had, he's going to need a lot of luck to still beat Sephy. But I'd be laughing with you if he pulled it off. Who knows, maybe they'll release details on Mario 128 during Cloud/Link that would show how Mario 128 > Twilight Princess while Square cancels Advent Children and instead announces they're releasing a DVD of people in FF7 cosplay? Also, maybe the pic will be a montage of badass Mario poses VS fat cosplay Sephiroth. With a Mario MIDI as the background music, and the main page saying "Vote for Mario and I'll make you a mod!"

Hey, it could happen.
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Round 1 of the Greatest User Contest Ever Established:
http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=22870630

And less people predicted Mega Man to win than Tifa? Oh boy.
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Round 1 of the Greatest User Contest Ever Established:
http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=22870630

People here love Sephiroth so damn much it probably still wouldn't happen.
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"You can't have gone over a kilometer up. 1500 meters, tops." -Samus Aran
"I'll express my love to you slowly, later." -Setzer Gabbiani

How about if CJayC posts on the main page, saying "A vote for Mario is a vote for me!"? There's so many CJayC fanboys on here ready to do his bidding in an instant, they'd reject Sephiroth and flock to Mario, all for Master Ceej.

I want to hit every CJayC fanboy I see with a bat.
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Round 1 of the Greatest User Contest Ever Established:
http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=22870630

Based on gf's performance so far, if leon does some what well in his second round match can we conclude that gordon may no longer be fodder?
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*pacing back in forth waiting for: advance wars ds, twilight princess, ffxii, kingdom hearts 2, castlevania dos*

well, looks like Leon really isn't as strong as Jill. ha! it's all because Jill is hotter, too. >_>

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Top 10 Closest Matches (difference in percentage)

1) 1.72% - Knuckles over Magus
2) 2.28% - Tommy Vercetti over Kefka
3) 3.34% - Frog over Riku
4) 9.38% - Lloyd Irving over Albert Wesker
5) 10.28% - Ness over Carl Johnson
6) 11.04% - Alucard over Kratos
7) 11.44% - Ryu over Rikku
8) 13.52% - Diablo over Kratos Aurion
9) 19.12% - Zelda over Vivi
10) 22.40% - Ganondorf over Yuna


Top 10 Smallest Vote Gaps (difference in votes)

1) 1756 - Knuckles over Magus
2) 2245 - Tommy Vercetti over Kefka
3) 3149 - Frog over Riku
4) 7952 - Lloyd Irving over Albert Wesker
5) 10036 - Alucard over Kratos
6) 10237 - Ness over Carl Johnson
7) 11621 - Diablo over Kratos Aurion
8) 12156 - Ryu over Rikku
9) 20023 - Zelda over Vivi
10) 23736 - Zero over Ryu Hayabusa

Top 10 Biggest Blowouts (difference in percentage)

1) 74.68% - Samus Aran over Yuri Hyuga
2) 68.18% - Solid Snake over Manny Calavera
3) 61.78% - Mario over Joanna Dark
4) 58.00% - Vincent Valentine over Sarah Kerrigan
5) 56.14% - Tifa Lockheart over Vyse
6) 53.44% - Crono over Zidane
7) 52.30% - Sonic the Hedgehog over Jin Kazama
8) 52.04% - Megaman over Conker
9) 50.42% - Kirby over Cecil
10) 49.68% - Squall Leonhart over Geno

Top 10 Biggest Vote Gaps (difference in votes)

1) 63680 - Samus Aran over Yuri Hyuga
2) 62487 - Solid Snake over Manny Calavera
3) 61244 - Mario over Joanna Dark
4) 58142 - Vincent Valentine over Sarah Kerrigan
5) 54045 - Tifa Lockheart over Vyse
6) 51944 - Crono over Zidane
7) 51894 - Megaman over Conker
8) 49390 - Squall Leonhart over Geno
9) 47602 - Sonic the Hedgehog over Jin Kazama
10) 45621 - Tidus over King of All Cosmos

Top 10 Most Popular Polls (by vote totals)

1) 106979 - Ganondorf vs. Yuna
2) 106419 - Luigi vs. KOS-MOS
3) 106264 - Ryu vs. Rikku
4) 104671 - Vivi vs. Zelda
5) 102062 - Magus vs. Knuckles
6) 101195 - Tidus vs. King of All Cosmos
7) 100496 - Bowser vs. Chun-Li
8) 100258 - Sarah Kerrigan vs. Vincent Valentine
9) 99720 - Megaman vs. Conker
10) 99525 - Ness vs. Carl Johnson

Top 10 Least Popular Polls (by vote totals)

1) 84794 - Lloyd Irving vs. Albert Wesker
2) 85306 - Samus Aran vs. Yuri Hyuga
3) 85945 - Kratos Aurion vs. Diablo
4) 87141 - Donkey Kong vs. Sam Fisher
5) 88144 - Sora vs. Agent 47
6) 89823 - Kirby vs. Cecil
7) 90928 - Kratos vs. Alucard
8) 91032 - Sonic the Hedgehog vs. Jin Kazama
9) 91278 - Zero vs. Ryu Hayabusa
10) 91639 - Solid Snake vs. Manny Calavera


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Top 10 Highest Individual Votes

1) 80185 - Mario
2) 79200 - Vincent Valentine
3) 77063 - Solid Snake
4) 75807 - Megaman
5) 75159 - Tifa Lockheart
6) 74580 - Crono
7) 74493 - Samus Aran
8) 74412 - Squall Leonhart
9) 73408 - Tidus
10) 70232 - Luigi

Top 10 Lowest Individual Votes

1) 10813 - Yuri Hyuga
2) 14576 - Manny Calavera
3) 18941 - Joanna Dark
4) 21058 - Sarah Kerrigan
5) 21114 - Vyse the Unimpressive
6) 21715 - Jin Kazama
7) 22267 - Cecil
8) 22636 - Zidane
9) 23913 - Conker
10) 25022 - Geno

Top 10 Most Impressive Losers (by votes)

1) 50153 - Magus
2) 47920 - Kefka
3) 47054 - Rikku
4) 45455 - Riku
5) 44644 - Carl Johnson
6) 42324 - Vivi
7) 41503 - Yuna
8) 40446 - Kratos
9) 38421 - Albert Wesker
10) 37162 - Kratos Aurion

Top 10 Least Impressive Winners (by votes)

1) 46373 - Lloyd Irving
2) 48604 - Frog
3) 48783 - Diablo
4) 50165 - Tommy Vercetti
5) 50482 - Alucard
6) 51909 - Knuckles
7) 54881 - Ness
8) 56433 - Donkey Kong
9) 57507 - Zero
10) 59210 - Ryu

Top 10 Easiest Matches to Predict (based on entrants choosing the

winner)

1) 97.98% - Solid Snake over Manny Calavera
2) 96.76% - Samus Aran over Yuri Hyuga
3) 96.53% - Mario over Joanna Dark
4) 92.20% - Master Cheif over CATS
5) 92.10% - Sonic the Hedgehog over Jin Kazama
6) 89.87% - Crono over Zidane
7) 89.72% - Tifa Lockheart over Vyse
8) 89.12% - Squall Leonhart over Geno
9) 88.83% - Megaman over Conker
10) 88.33% - Dante over Terra

Top 10 Hardest Matches to Predict (based on entrants choosing the

winner)

1) 35.08% - Knuckles over Magus
2) 37.66% - Tommy Vercetti over Kefka
3) 51.31% - Alucard over Kratos
4) 51.90% - Ness over Carl Johnson
5) 53.08% - Frog over Riku
6) 53.88% - Lloyd Irving over Albert Wesker
7) 69.09% - Zero over Ryu Hayabusa
8) 71.08% - Donkey Kong over Sam Fisher
9) 74.98% - Ryu over Rikku
10) 75.77% - Vincent Valentine over Sarah Kerrigan

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