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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 206
From: AmazingKirby | Posted: 8/16/2005 10:27:32 PM | Message Detail
Hey, I don't insult people! I was calling myself an idiot for thinking Kratos was the villain of ToS.
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From: sidharta | Posted: 8/16/2005 10:36:36 PM | Message Detail
Kirby: how should we know, be more specific next time.

HM: is that Seph?
He's neither good looking nor manly there...

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From: LeonhartForever | Posted: 8/16/2005 10:42:18 PM | Message Detail
I liked Heroic Mario better when he hated Sephiroth. This new fanboyism for him just isn't doing it for me.
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From: Keno316 | Posted: 8/16/2005 10:50:18 PM | Message Detail
Wait...he likes Sephiroth now?
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From: sidharta | Posted: 8/16/2005 10:50:31 PM | Message Detail
I liked Heroic Mario better when he hated Sephiroth. This new fanboyism for him just isn't doing it for me.

Come on, now, we know who he likes, winners!

Once Seph got punked in the ToC, he'll jump to other char's bandwagon.

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From: LeonhartForever | Posted: 8/16/2005 10:52:30 PM | Message Detail
Wait...he likes Sephiroth now?

Apparently so. He only trails Cloud and Vincent now as far as his favorite FFVII characters go.
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From: NewLib | Posted: 8/16/2005 11:10:52 PM | Message Detail
If Kratos > Leon, I seriously dont know what to think. RE4 and GOW came out around the same time.

1) RE4 is more loved by the internet gaming community
2) Leon is a more liked character than Kratos, generally.
3) Leon has Resident Evil 2, you know the other game fighting for most popular RE game ever, to fall back on.

I would be stunned more than any of the matches except for Knuckles/Magus if Leon does not get atleast 69-31 on GF. Stunned.
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Leon's Quest For Ultimate Glory:
1. Tripling Gordon Freeman.
From: Lopen | Posted: 8/16/2005 11:27:13 PM | Message Detail
1. Kratos draws from the X-Box and PS2. Whereas Leon Kennedy only draws from Gamecube at the moment. (well, not including RE2 on PS1)
2. Kratos seems to have a more interesting character design.
3. With the exception of this board, I've heard much more about God of War than Resident Evil 4. (Magazines and the like)

I think these will make Kratos > Leon Kennedy. Mainly point 1.
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Raiden fact of the post: Raiden draws from the PS2 and X-Box and is clearly one of the most fearsome forces in the contest.
From: greatone10 | Posted: 8/16/2005 11:32:34 PM | Message Detail
GoW wasn't for Xbox.
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From: Mac Arrowny | Posted: 8/16/2005 11:36:12 PM | Message Detail
1. Kratos draws from the X-Box and PS2. Whereas Leon Kennedy only draws from Gamecube at the moment. (well, not including RE2 on PS1)

God of War is only for PS2. RE2 has been on PS1, Gamecube, Dreamcast, and PC, and it is the best-selling Resident Evil by far.

3. With the exception of this board, I've heard much more about God of War than Resident Evil 4. (Magazines and the like)

RE4 has better reviews and better sales. And of course GoW is in more magazines now, it's four months newer than RE4 is.
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From: charmander6000 | Posted: 8/16/2005 11:36:12 PM | Message Detail
Looks like we're going to miss 100k by about 500 votes.
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I've been Pwned by KoaC. He really is the king of all cosmos.
From: chaos knight | Posted: 8/16/2005 11:48:06 PM | Message Detail
Despite how awful Gordon tends to do in these contests, it's odd how he continues to gain half-decent seedings.
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[Player] A bunch of JP just trained me!
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LBSJ
From: transience | Posted: 8/16/2005 11:50:01 PM | Message Detail
that's because half of board 8 nominates him, along with the half-life fans.

as for prediction percentage, I'll take 94.5%.
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From: Lopen | Posted: 8/16/2005 11:51:08 PM | Message Detail
Ah, it's only for PS2? Well, the point remains. PS2 exclusive > Gamecube exclusive as far as goodness goes.

it's four months newer than RE4 is.

Recency will help in this case as well then. And I didn't mean now, I meant in general. As in in their heydays, comparatively God of War seemed to get more publicity from my observations.
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Raiden fact of the post: Raiden is a rumored to be a hidden character in the upcoming Super Alucard Kart.
From: NewLib | Posted: 8/16/2005 11:52:52 PM | Message Detail
God of War got more commericials, but if you around the internet gaming community like I do you see RE4 was more discussed and praised.
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Leon's Quest For Ultimate Glory:
1. Tripling Gordon Freeman.
From: chaos knight | Posted: 8/16/2005 11:54:38 PM | Message Detail
If just for about 15 minutes or so, I would love for CJayC to make a huge typo for the next match:

Half Life 2 vs. Leon Kennedy

Might stand a chance then. >_>
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[Player] A bunch of JP just trained me!
[GM] Well you're still here, so they obviously didn't do it right.
LBSJ
From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 8/16/2005 11:57:39 PM | Message Detail
I just realized that Mario and FF7 have a chance to go on the greatest run we've ever seen in one of these contests. More impressive than Starcraft, even.

Imaging the following series of events:

-Mario defeats Samus
-Bowser defeats Snake
-Vincent defeats Dante, Squall, and Crono
-Tifa defeats Luigi, Sonic, and Mega Man
-Mario defeats Bowser
-Vincent defeats Tifa
-Mario barely defeats Vincent to win the main bracket
-Cloud upsets Link
-Mario defeats Sephiroth and Cloud in consecutive days, thus putting Mario above Link in the Xsts

Not only would Mario win the entire contest (and god damn, does he deserve to), but it would put Mario and Cloud (and possibly others) above Link in the stats.

~*ST*~
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"If my fate is to be destroyed... I must simply laugh!" -Magus
From: LeonhartForever | Posted: 8/16/2005 11:58:13 PM | Message Detail
Recency will help in this case as well then.

I don't think recency is a big deal when the game is still less than a year old.

95.59% of brackets for Mega Man.
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From: Heroic Knuckles | Posted: 8/16/2005 11:58:59 PM | Message Detail
That would be awesome... too bad it'll never happen.
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>_<
59th/125 in the Guru Standings. Why did I pick Kratos? *sigh*
From: charmander6000 | Posted: 8/16/2005 11:59:06 PM | Message Detail
Mario winning the whole thing? Sounds great to me.
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I've been Pwned by KoaC. He really is the king of all cosmos.
From: LeonhartForever | Posted: 8/16/2005 11:59:22 PM | Message Detail
I just realized that Mario and FF7 have a chance to go on the greatest run we've ever seen in one of these contests.

Well, there's a 0% chance of Mario doing all of those things you said he might do.
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From: Janus5000 | Posted: 8/17/2005 12:00:20 AM | Message Detail
Gordon Freeman 52.17% 12
Leon Kennedy 47.83% 11
TOTAL VOTES 23

*universe implodes*
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The King of all Cosmos' route to summer victory:
Round 1: (0) Voters
From: transience | Posted: 8/17/2005 12:00:27 AM | Message Detail
Gordon Freeman 60% 33
Leon Kennedy 58.18% 32
TOTAL VOTES 55

whoa!

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From: HaRRicH | Posted: 8/17/2005 12:00:29 AM | Message Detail
Gordon Freeman 51.79% 58
Leon Kennedy 48.21% 54
TOTAL VOTES 112

Mega Man had 88.83% of the brackets on his side against Conker.
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Hillary Clinton: We need to treat violent video games the way we treat tobacco or alcohol.
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From: Heroic Knuckles | Posted: 8/17/2005 12:00:33 AM | Message Detail
Gordon Freeman 48.15% 65
Leon Kennedy 51.85% 70
TOTAL VOTES 135

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>_<
59th/125 in the Guru Standings. Why did I pick Kratos? *sigh*
From: yoblazer33 | Posted: 8/17/2005 12:00:38 AM | Message Detail
Gordon Freeman 50.67% 38
Leon Kennedy 49.33% 37
TOTAL VOTES 75

Mega Man with 88.83% of the brackets. wtf mate
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Board 8: Where people treat each other right.
From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 8/17/2005 12:00:43 AM | Message Detail
Well, there's a 0% chance of Mario doing all of those things you said he might do.

Lol, Xst Blinders.

~*ST*~
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"If my fate is to be destroyed... I must simply laugh!" -Magus
From: Agent M | Posted: 8/17/2005 12:00:53 AM | Message Detail
Gordon Freeman 50.67% 38
Leon Kennedy 49.33% 37
TOTAL VOTES 75
From: LeonhartForever | Posted: 8/17/2005 12:01:41 AM | Message Detail
Lol, Xst Blinders.

Or we could just be realistic and say that Cloud would beat the living crap out of Mario even if he did beat Sephiroth. He almost beat Bowser as badly as Mario did WITHOUT SFF.
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From: ShadowOwns | Posted: 8/17/2005 12:02:21 AM | Message Detail
Gordon Freeman 50.43% 58
Leon Kennedy 49.57% 57
TOTAL VOTES 115
:O OMG Gordon was winninG!
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27/29 next winner=leon OMG KNUX IS A GOD.
WE DO REALLY WANT BRET
From: BeTheMan | Posted: 8/17/2005 12:02:22 AM | Message Detail
I'm honestly not sure who the board vote favors here...Gordon for being Gordon, or Leon because of the giant nomination blitz. This could be interesting.
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ALL YOUR VOTES ARE BELONG TO...Pac-Man?
From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 8/17/2005 12:02:23 AM | Message Detail
Yeah, in 2003. Lol, X-stats.

~*ST*~
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"If my fate is to be destroyed... I must simply laugh!" -Magus
From: sidharta | Posted: 8/17/2005 12:02:38 AM | Message Detail
-Mario defeats Sephiroth and Cloud in consecutive days, thus putting Mario above Link in the Xsts

That part is downright impossible, Seph defeated Mario, directly, with a 60%-40% before.

And 2 years with nothing major going on for Mario won't change that.

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From: transience | Posted: 8/17/2005 12:02:42 AM | Message Detail
man, Gordon's hanging on to 45% here. I wonder if this will last after the board vote ends.
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From: charmander6000 | Posted: 8/17/2005 12:03:19 AM | Message Detail
Well, there's a 0% chance of Mario doing all of those things you said he might do.

Mario has a better chance of winning it then Vincent and Tifa have getting to the final 4 (For Bowser let's see his match with Ryu first)
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I've been Pwned by KoaC. He really is the king of all cosmos.
From: Eggplant Lord | Posted: 8/17/2005 12:03:24 AM | Message Detail
I don't believe Vincent could defeat Tifa...

Of course, Mario beating Cloud is much more unlikely...

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From: therealmnm | Posted: 8/17/2005 12:03:33 AM | Message Detail
Well HM, so much for Leon being at least as popular as Jill...
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From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 8/17/2005 12:03:50 AM | Message Detail
That part is downright impossible, Seph defeated Mario, directly, with a 60%-40% before.

And 2 years with nothing major going on for Mario won't change that.


Knuckles cannot defeat Magus! They're only close in the unadjusted stats, and Magus was SFFd!

~*ST*~
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Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest
"If my fate is to be destroyed... I must simply laugh!" -Magus
From: transience | Posted: 8/17/2005 12:03:54 AM | Message Detail
what do x-stats have to do with Sephiroth obliterating Mario? you don't need numbers to say that.

lol, results.
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From: LeonhartForever | Posted: 8/17/2005 12:04:09 AM | Message Detail
Yeah, in 2003. Lol, X-stats.

Yes, it's funny because they're right. Mario had EVERY advantage in his favor in 2002 and still got lucky to beat Cloud. Belittle the stats all you want, but Mario essentially has no chance of beating Cloud if they have a rematch in the near future.
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It's just not the same without this name.
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From: Phediuk | Posted: 8/17/2005 12:04:09 AM | Message Detail
Jesus. This is almost an exact retread of Sam/Gordon. Granted, Gordon's probably getting the board vote, but...
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"Thank you, Mario. But our princess is in another castle."
-Toad in Super Mario Bros.
From: LeonhartForever | Posted: 8/17/2005 12:05:05 AM | Message Detail
Well HM, so much for Leon being at least as popular as Jill...

Yep, since we can really tell that 5 minutes into the poll when Gordon is almost assuredly benefitting from the board vote.
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It's just not the same without this name.
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From: Team Rocket Elite | Posted: 8/17/2005 12:05:08 AM | Message Detail
Score-Brackets-% Right
28-----16-------100.0000000
27-----176------96.0227273
26-----1211-----98.3484723
25-----2877-----97.0107751
24-----4519-----96.1938482
23-----5352-----94.6935725
22-----5182-----91.5283674
21-----4502-----88.2496668
20-----3375-----84.9185185
19-----2362-----81.7527519
18-----1559-----76.5875561
17-----991------72.5529768
16-----647------74.0340031
15-----326------73.6196319
14-----213------69.0140845
13-----126------60.3174603
12-----68-------61.7647059
11------34------52.9411765
10------8-------50.0000000
9------4--------25.0000000
8------9--------33.3333333
7------16-------0.0000000
6------30-------0.0000000
5------33-------3.0303030
4------59-------0.0000000
3------52-------0.0000000
2------43-------0.0000000
1------3--------0.0000000

The perfects go perfect again this round. The -1's and -2's are still off. Overall not too great considering who the characters fighting were.

Two people fell off the Top 50 today. unknowen9000 and Zeldamaster102 had Conker over Mega Man.
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From: consolefreak | Posted: 8/17/2005 12:05:26 AM | Message Detail
Sephiroth broke 60% on Mario. Cloud would obliterate him indeed.
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From: sidharta | Posted: 8/17/2005 12:05:35 AM | Message Detail
Knuckles cannot defeat Magus! They're only close in the unadjusted stats, and Magus was SFFd!

Threw the X-stats out the window, Seph has CRUSHED Mario DIRECTLY.

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From: yoblazer33 | Posted: 8/17/2005 12:05:43 AM | Message Detail
**** realism. I'd rather have some fun with these contests, and as we've seen more than a few times already, clinging to realism can make you look like quite the fool in the end. Maybe more so than thinking Mario will take it all? I say YES!
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Board 8: Where people treat each other right.
From: Dranze | Posted: 8/17/2005 12:05:54 AM | Message Detail
Sephiroth wouldn't break 60% on Mario again.
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From: LeonhartForever | Posted: 8/17/2005 12:05:55 AM | Message Detail
Knuckles cannot defeat Magus! They're only close in the unadjusted stats, and Magus was SFFd!

Oh no! Everyone forgets Sam Fisher!
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It's just not the same without this name.
Faithful supporter of Squall Leonhart in SC2K5
From: NewLib | Posted: 8/17/2005 12:05:59 AM | Message Detail
Phediuk, Sam was NEVER beating GF by this much percentage wise.
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Leon's Quest For Ultimate Glory:
1. Tripling Gordon Freeman.
From: charmander6000 | Posted: 8/17/2005 12:06:10 AM | Message Detail
Freeman may finally get blown away in this match (and by blown I mean less then 40%)
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I've been Pwned by KoaC. He really is the king of all cosmos.
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