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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 206
From: Sir Crono | Posted: 8/16/2005 7:42:18 PM | Message Detail
No, people are just being wary if Half-Life 2 decides to give him a boost out of nowhere. Which is understandable.

Like Halo 2 did for Master Chief, right? Honestly, Half-Life performed decently in the games contest. But NOBODY cares about Gordon Freeman. He is a nothing. He gets votes for being the Half-Life guy, but other than that...He's got nothing. He's a guy that would be very easy to pass over and vote for somebody else against.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Contest 2005 Championship
Round 2: (3) Mag...Er...(6) Knuckles the Echidna
From: Kagato Toujou | Posted: 8/16/2005 7:42:40 PM | Message Detail
No, people are just being wary if Half-Life 2 decides to give him a boost out of nowhere. Which is understandable.

Which will cause the underestimation of Leon should Gordon put up a fight tomorrow, and likewise should Megs struggle slightly with the winner in the 2nd round.
From: Slowflake | Posted: 8/16/2005 7:45:01 PM | Message Detail
43% against Metroid Prime, people. And Gordon has all the problems in the world staying ahead of EGGPLANT CATS. I think he won't jump much.

Seriously, some people are expecting him to do the same thing Terra would do if FF6-2 came out tomorrow.
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"You can't have gone over a kilometer up. 1500 meters, tops." -Samus Aran
"I'll express my love to you slowly, later." -Setzer Gabbiani
From: Karma Hunter | Posted: 8/16/2005 7:46:20 PM | Message Detail
Hey, I said it was understandable--not that it was going to happen. I fully expect Leon to blow out Gordon more than he has ever been blown out before.
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"i started playing mario brothers as luigi and threw the controller down in disgust in the middle of the game because he lacked character"--gokujont
From: Slowflake | Posted: 8/16/2005 7:48:17 PM | Message Detail
Yeah... never did a HL entry get under 40%.

If Gordon breaks 40% tomorrow, Frog breaks 48% against Samus. BOOK IT.
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"You can't have gone over a kilometer up. 1500 meters, tops." -Samus Aran
"I'll express my love to you slowly, later." -Setzer Gabbiani
From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 8/16/2005 7:48:38 PM | Message Detail
So, does everyone who said they'd be willing to do guest writeups for the PCA actually mean to do them? I don't care who does what or if more than one person does a match, just so long as they're all covered. Remember, I need the eight matches covered from Mario/Ness to Bowser/Ryu.

Sorry if I sound like a pain. I just don't want the PCA to suck :(

~*ST*~
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Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest
"If my fate is to be destroyed... I must simply laugh!" -Magus
From: Sir Crono | Posted: 8/16/2005 7:49:12 PM | Message Detail
Don't worry. I've got Kirby/Tidus covered.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Contest 2005 Championship
Round 2: (3) Mag...Er...(6) Knuckles the Echidna
From: Draco1214 | Posted: 8/16/2005 7:49:43 PM | Message Detail
I would like to do one for the PCA.
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Summer 2005 Contest - 26/29 points
Current Match Prediction: Gordon Freeman vs. Leon Kennedy
From: cyko | Posted: 8/16/2005 7:50:58 PM | Message Detail
i see Gordon breaking 40% well before Frog breaking 48% on Samus. i'm not guaranteeing it!! i'm just saying Gordon has an outside chance of breaking 40%.

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From: cyko | Posted: 8/16/2005 7:51:52 PM | Message Detail
the spots were all claimed, but i got ya covered, too, Ulti.

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"Start wearing purple, for me now. All your sanity and wits, they will all vanish, i promise. It's just a matter of time..."
From: Slowflake | Posted: 8/16/2005 7:52:22 PM | Message Detail
I was joking around, of course.

But I'd be astounded if Gordon really broke 40%. That'd mean the contest isn't all the people voting... it's really staged by the Patriots!
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"You can't have gone over a kilometer up. 1500 meters, tops." -Samus Aran
"I'll express my love to you slowly, later." -Setzer Gabbiani
From: Draco1214 | Posted: 8/16/2005 7:52:48 PM | Message Detail
All covered already?
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Summer 2005 Contest - 26/29 points
Current Match Prediction: Gordon Freeman vs. Leon Kennedy
From: transience | Posted: 8/16/2005 7:53:27 PM | Message Detail
yeah, if someone doesn't do theirs, I'm sure one of us can pick up the slack. you've probably got bigger things to worry about right now, so don't worry.
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"HOLY ****ING HELL, I JUST WOKE UP, VOTED MAGUS, WENT TO CLICK CONTEST STATS, DOUBLE TOOK, AND COULD NOT ****ING BELIEVE IT." - Explicit Content
From: cyko | Posted: 8/16/2005 8:00:31 PM | Message Detail
list from last topic:

HaRRicH - Mario vs Ness
therealmnm - Zero vs Lloyd
NewLib - Samus vs Frog
MM119 - Ganondorf vs Auron
Phediuk - Solid Snake vs Zelda
Sir Bormun - Alucard vs Sora
Leonhart4 - Kirby vs Tidus
Phediuk - Bowser vs Ryu

back-ups -

cyko

and Phediuk, i would LOVE to stake a claim on Bowser/Ryu. that's the match i'm looking forward to.
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"Start wearing purple, for me now. All your sanity and wits, they will all vanish, i promise. It's just a matter of time..."
From: Draco1214 | Posted: 8/16/2005 8:02:06 PM | Message Detail
If you guys need any for the later matches, like Knuckles vs. Squall, I would be happy to do them. If not, I'll be satisfied with backup then.
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Summer 2005 Contest - 26/29 points
Current Match Prediction: Gordon Freeman vs. Leon Kennedy
From: charmander6000 | Posted: 8/16/2005 8:33:07 PM | Message Detail
Match 30: (4) Gordon Freeman vs. (5) Leon S. Kennedy

Past Performances

Gordon Freeman


Summer 2002
Lost to Tina Armstrong, 40.03% - 59.97%
Ranked: 53rd

Summer 2003
Lost to Max Payne, 46.01% - 53.99%
Ranked: 53rd

Summer 2004
Lost to Sam Fisher, 44.57% - 55.43%
Ranked: 51st

Spring 2005
Did not attend
Ranked: N/A

Leon S. Kennedy

Summer 2002
Did not attend
Ranked: N/A

Summer 2003
Did not attend
Ranked: N/A

Summer 2004
Did not attend
Ranked: N/A

Spring 2005
Did not attend
Ranked: N/A

Analysis

I could end this analysis by saying GFNW and make a prediction, but I won’t. Leon is from Resident Evil 2 and 4, which was released a few months ago. His first match ever is against a board fad and he should easily win the match, Freeman may put up a fight with the board votes, but that’s the only time I’ll see him do any good.

Why Freeman became a fad was because he never won a match, so what so special about that many characters have never won a match. Well first of all he’s been in every single character contest and second he should’ve won his match against Tina (who ironically is under him) and if Freeman was new in 2k3 and 2k4, I might’ve put him over Max and Sam. Just because of one match and that he never won another match made him a laughing stock here on board 8, that and if he does win the world shall implode (Those plane crashes and the earthquake might be giving us some hints on what’s to happen tomorrow >_>).

Freeman has also gain a new game, Half-Life 2. By many it is considered one of the best PC games ever made, but if you know GameFAQs PC characters never really do well in a contest situation. HL2 will probably give Freeman some kind of a boost, but I think it will be more likely that his picture has the Half-Life symbol on it.

A good question is where Leon will rank. We’ve had some Resident Evil characters before and they all performed fairly well. Claire, Jill and Nemesis have done very well for themselves, but Wesker hasn’t shown that he has a lot of power in him, but even he’s stronger the Freeman. I haven’t played Resident Evil too much, but I would rank Leon as fourth from the five Resident Evil characters. This may seem low to some people, but I don’t think Leon has the power to best Claire, Jill or Nemesis (who btw was named from Resident Evil 3).

Gordon Freeman is one of the few characters to lose with over 40% in all of the contests. The only other characters that have such a claim are Link, Cloud, Sephiroth, Solid Snake and Ryu. Gordon being in such a list of characters makes him look like an odd-ball, but I think he can manage scoring over 40%. Normally if Leon was verse someone at Freeman’s strength I would predict him to take over 60%, but I will make an exception.

charmander6000’s Bracket: Leon S. Kennedy over Gordon Freeman

charmander6000’s Prediction: Leon wins, 58.78% - 41.22%

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From: cyko | Posted: 8/16/2005 8:37:45 PM | Message Detail
for the record, this is the closest Gordon Freeman has ever come to winning (outside of the first minute, of course)

2004-09-01 03:22:46 (6:22:46 AM EST)

Sam Fisher 50.38% 3869
Gordon Freeman 49.62% 3810
TOTAL VOTES 7679

lead of 59


and also, Sam didn't start pulling away until 4 hours in (7 AM EST). let's see if he hangs in there for the first few hours tonight.

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"Start wearing purple, for me now. All your sanity and wits, they will all vanish, i promise. It's just a matter of time..."
From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 8/16/2005 8:39:36 PM | Message Detail
As for that signup list, it's really just a guideline. If you want to write for a match, go ahead and write for a match. In fact, it's probably better if everyone goes nuts writing, because that way all of the matches I mentioned are covered in case some people forget.

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Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest
"If my fate is to be destroyed... I must simply laugh!" -Magus
From: transience | Posted: 8/16/2005 8:40:08 PM | Message Detail
you know, I think I'm looking more forward to Knux/Squall than any other round 2 match. I have no idea what's going to happen in that match, and am very curious.
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"HOLY ****ING HELL, I JUST WOKE UP, VOTED MAGUS, WENT TO CLICK CONTEST STATS, DOUBLE TOOK, AND COULD NOT ****ING BELIEVE IT." - Explicit Content
From: Sir Crono | Posted: 8/16/2005 8:42:32 PM | Message Detail
Squall will win with 53-55% against Knuckles. That's pretty much what should be expected from that match.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Contest 2005 Championship
Round 2: (3) Mag...Er...(6) Knuckles the Echidna
From: AmazingKirby | Posted: 8/16/2005 8:43:43 PM | Message Detail
Hmph. I still think GF will get at least 45%.
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I know what I'm getting into, I don't care if I die trying!-Peppita Rossetti
From: Draco1214 | Posted: 8/16/2005 8:43:57 PM | Message Detail
Squall will win with less than 51%, then overperform on Dante/Vincent, causing another overrated trio (Magus/Knuckles/Squall) to give us problems in the next contest.
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Summer 2005 Contest - 26/29 points
Current Match Prediction: Gordon Freeman vs. Leon Kennedy
From: BeTheMan | Posted: 8/16/2005 8:49:21 PM | Message Detail
I think the biggest thing Gordon has going for him this year is his match picture. People that don't recognize his name/face should at least be clued in to his identity by the giant symbol on his chest. I know that sounds a little silly, but since he's going up against a character with little name value to non-RE fans, it could make a big difference.
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ALL YOUR VOTES ARE BELONG TO...Pac-Man?
From: LordOfDabu | Posted: 8/16/2005 9:05:06 PM | Message Detail
I can't understand why these predictions are so insanely low.
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From: Master Moltar | Posted: 8/16/2005 9:06:31 PM | Message Detail
It's hard to put so much faith into Leon, with Gordon possibly getting a boost from HL2.

This could be Lloyd/Wesker all over again.
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Mega Man vs. Conker - Bracket: Mega - Vote: Mega (25/28)
From: MegatokyoEd | Posted: 8/16/2005 9:07:47 PM | Message Detail
I doubt Gordon will get that much of a boost. I just say that Gordon will get above 40% and keep his streak alive.
From: Sir Crono | Posted: 8/16/2005 9:12:39 PM | Message Detail
with Gordon possibly getting a boost from HL2

Why would you expect that? There's nothing different about him, and with all of the massive sales and hype Halo 2 got, it gave Master Chief virtually nothing. If Gordon benefits, it'll be very small, and it won't make the difference between him breaking 40% or not.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Contest 2005 Championship
Round 2: (3) Mag...Er...(6) Knuckles the Echidna
From: Master Moltar | Posted: 8/16/2005 9:16:27 PM | Message Detail
Which is why I said it might possibly give him a boost. There's no doubt that HL2 gained him some fans, but will it be enough to make a difference? I dunno.

And how about we wait for Chief to face someone other than CATS to see if he boosted from Halo 2. I mean, it's Face CATS...
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Mega Man vs. Conker - Bracket: Mega - Vote: Mega (25/28)
From: Sir Crono | Posted: 8/16/2005 9:18:47 PM | Message Detail
Yeah, and Face CATS from the Spring Contest predicted the match pretty well. I can't see him being above the fodder line, even as Face CATS.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Contest 2005 Championship
Round 2: (3) Mag...Er...(6) Knuckles the Echidna
From: Sir Bormun | Posted: 8/16/2005 9:25:28 PM | Message Detail
I still think Leon's going to be relatively weak. That's most of why I think the match will be about 60-40... Leon being below his usual place and Gordon being a tad better than it.

But then, I thought Luigi vs. KOS-MOS would be 55-45 too. So I wouldn't be surprised with whatever happens in this match, as long as Leon stays between 55 and 65.
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I can't think of anything to put here, but I can't just leave it blank, can I?
From: Sir Crono | Posted: 8/16/2005 9:26:59 PM | Message Detail
I can see why people might think Leon will be fodder because Wesker bombed, but we've seen how large of a disparity there can be between heroes and villains here. I just can't see why Leon would be fodder.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Contest 2005 Championship
Round 2: (3) Mag...Er...(6) Knuckles the Echidna
From: Haste2 | Posted: 8/16/2005 9:33:42 PM | Message Detail
Well, according to the 2K3 x-stats, Gordon's at 15.86% on Link (and lost to Max Payne). You could even stretch that to say that Gordon was still underrated there, as Max overperformed against Vercetti the next year (assuming 20XX adjustment). Of course Gordon's value is much lower the next year, but judging by DK/Sam Fisher you could say that Sam and Gordon were underrated.

Add in a possible increase for Gordon from his new game, and it's entirely possible to beat Gordon 60/40 and still be above the VFL, even if just barely.

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"Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun! So...what is a party?"
"Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think."
From: LeonhartForever | Posted: 8/16/2005 9:35:57 PM | Message Detail
but judging by DK/Sam Fisher you could say that Sam and Gordon were underrated.

Or that DK was possibly overrated, looking at Vivi/Zelda.
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From: Haste2 | Posted: 8/16/2005 9:36:54 PM | Message Detail
Of course. I'm just looking at the best possible situations for Gordon here.

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"Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun! So...what is a party?"
"Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think."
From: perdevious | Posted: 8/16/2005 9:42:38 PM | Message Detail
Ulti likes girls?!!

O_o

Sorry for going off-topic like this... it's just... I don't know... thought he hated them for some reason...

Actually I knew better... but... I didn't think he would get married. Not yet anyway. Wow.

Alright carry on.
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From: BeTheMan | Posted: 8/16/2005 9:42:57 PM | Message Detail
On a slightly different topic: why have we never heard stories about people going to outside sites to rally support for Gordon? After all, there are some HL sites and message boards out there with pretty good traffic. Do the GF fans around here simply not care, just not think about it, or...what?
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ALL YOUR VOTES ARE BELONG TO...Pac-Man?
From: AmazingKirby | Posted: 8/16/2005 9:45:53 PM | Message Detail
but we've seen how large of a disparity there can be between heroes and villains here.

Yeah, like Lloyd and Kratos. >_>
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I know what I'm getting into, I don't care if I die trying!-Peppita Rossetti
From: LeonhartForever | Posted: 8/16/2005 9:47:05 PM | Message Detail
But Kratos isn't the villain of Tales of Symphonia.
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It's just not the same without this name.
Faithful supporter of Squall Leonhart in SC2K5
From: fastpawn | Posted: 8/16/2005 9:48:10 PM | Message Detail
Dahh! Megaman's doing horrible.
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From: perdevious | Posted: 8/16/2005 9:50:49 PM | Message Detail
Of course I automatically assumed he was marrying (sp?) a girl. Ulti's not marrying some guy is he?
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How to describe Meteos in one word? Ingenuity.
From: sidharta | Posted: 8/16/2005 9:56:23 PM | Message Detail
MM is doing somewhat better than what the un-adjusted X-stats predicted, but still farther than what the adjusted X-stats would predict.

So unless Conker gained noticeably, it's safe to assume at this point that the 20XX adjustment is fundamentally unjustified.

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Reserved for the winner of the SC2K5 Guru Challenge.
From: AmazingKirby | Posted: 8/16/2005 9:57:46 PM | Message Detail
*blinks* Wow...what an idiot. >_<
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I know what I'm getting into, I don't care if I die trying!-Peppita Rossetti
From: fastpawn | Posted: 8/16/2005 10:01:50 PM | Message Detail
If megaman were supposed to beat sonic and crono he doesn't look like it from this match.
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From: sidharta | Posted: 8/16/2005 10:02:29 PM | Message Detail
*blinks* Wow...what an idiot. >_<

Wtf are you talking about?

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Reserved for the winner of the SC2K5 Guru Challenge.
From: Phediuk | Posted: 8/16/2005 10:09:12 PM | Message Detail
cyko, you may have Bowser/Ryu if you really want it.
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"Thank you, Mario. But our princess is in another castle."
-Toad in Super Mario Bros.
From: Kagato Toujou | Posted: 8/16/2005 10:13:36 PM | Message Detail
Wtf are you talking about?

His thoughts on perdevious made text would be my guess.
From: Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted: 8/16/2005 10:16:30 PM | Message Detail
http://utsunomiya.cool.ne.jp/gamers159/image/ff7ac_tvcm10.jpg

FEAR!

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Cloud Strife: What’s going to happen to the Planet?
Sephiroth: That… will be for you to decide.
From: yoblazer33 | Posted: 8/16/2005 10:20:39 PM | Message Detail
http://www.allthingschristie.com/archives/gordon_freeman.jpg

FEAR!
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Board 8: Where people treat each other right.
From: Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted: 8/16/2005 10:21:37 PM | Message Detail
B-but, Gordon Freeman is all bloody!

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Cloud Strife: What’s going to happen to the Planet?
Sephiroth: That… will be for you to decide.
From: Kagato Toujou | Posted: 8/16/2005 10:24:16 PM | Message Detail
http://www.allthingschristie.com/archives/gordon_freeman.jpg

Gordon will save us from the Martian hordes by joining _their_ side.
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