He's always been, to be honest. Not that he's a powerhouse because of it, but whatever.

Not really. Both of his matches in 2004 barely cleared 75,000, and his match with Ratchet is in the bottom 5 for 2003.
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Although, strangely enough, both of his 2004 opponents had matches with a lower vote total in 2003 than his match with Ratchet.
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20XX Division Round 1 - Match 29 – (1)Mega Man vs. (8)Conker

Mega Man
Game/Series Known From: Mega Man
Extrapolated Rank in 2002: 3rd (42.91%)
Extrapolated Rank in 2003: 4th (38.60%)
Extrapolated Rank in 2004: 8th (32.39%) Adjusted Value: 6th (35.99%)
Seed in 2002: 6
Seed in 2003: 2
Seed in 2004: 1
Lost in 2002 to Sephiroth in the Sweet 16
Lost in 2003 to Sephiroth in the Final 4
Lost in 2004 to Link in the Final 4

There he is! It’s the character responsible for the messed-up 2004 20XX Division stats! Get him!

Conker
Game/Series Known From: Conker
Extrapolated Rank in 2002: N/A
Extrapolated Rank in 2003: 46th (18.14%)
Extrapolated Rank in 2004: 43rd (16.37%)
Seed in 2002: N/A
Seed in 2003: 13
Seed in 2004: 14
Lost in 2003 to Yoshi in Round 1
Lost in 2004 to Crono in Round 1

Everyone’s favortie foul-mouthed little squirrel is back. Don’t you just want to pet him?

Looks like this could be Conker’s last year in the Contest. The only reason he got the noms is because Live and Reloaded was almost out. Oh well, Mega Man will give him a nice good-bye.

And by nice good-bye, I mean a complete butt kicking.

Moltar’s Bracket Says: Mega Man will win.

Moltar’s Prediction is: Mega Man: 72% - Conker: 28%



Ulti’s Analysis

(Special note from Ulti: due to me having to take care of a bunch of wedding stuff, my analyses are going to be very lax and short until the end of August, possibly even later. Sorry in advance.)

(Special note from Moltar: I left the pie out on the table. You can have some, if you want.)

Mega Man loves killing off weak characters in his first match, doesn't he?

Prediction: Mega Man with 74.56%



Soul’s Analysis


The final division for the first round kicks off with a pretty standard match. Mega Man is the one seed again, this time he fights Conker in round 1.

Basically, there isn't much to discuss here. Conker has a new game out, so he's probably going to receive a slight boost. Not enough to dent Mega Man, but a boost nonetheless.

My prediction: Mega Man wins with 70.45% of the vote. Not much too say here. Moving on...



Outback’s Analysis

Not much to see here. Mega falls just short of Crono's performance last year.

Mega with 76.44%
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Inviso’s Analysis

The final division, and then I just have to wait for these matches to actually occur before I can start one round two. Anyway we have Megaman and Conker. Megaman, like four of the other 1 seeds, is noble nine. He is perhaps the second most whored out character of all time, right after Mario. He’s also expected to make the final 4 and put up a good match against Crono. Conker, on the other hand, he recently had a remake of his N64 game made, Conker: Live and Reloaded. This will seriously not do anything to improve his popularity. Honestly, I’m surprised the original was liked. It seems like a very niche market…mature games starring a furry. Then again, I’d hardly consider those games “Mature,” but what I meant was M-Rated. It gives me hope that the Darwin Chronicles will one day be a reality.

My Bracket: Megaman
My Vote: Conker
My Prediction: Megaman with 74.21%



Tnote’s Analysis

Crono slapped up 78% on Conker, who since 2k4 has had his game ported (I believe) to the Xbox. I think Crono will prove to be a stronger combatant than Mega Man, and this belief, coupled with the aforementioned game, should help Conker avoid a tripling.

Pick: Mega Man with 74.83%



Vlado’s Analysis

Conker is one of my personal favourites in this contest. Not only is he a kickass character, but he manages to make the contest for a third year in a row, despite being from a game that sold way too little and was never really popular. This only comes to prove that he has managed to win some truly loyal fans on his side and I can't help admiring that fact. Much like in the previous two years, he stands no chance in his first round match. However, in 2003, he did manage to avoid doubling by Yoshi, not a bad achievement, in my opinion. He managed to maintain his strength in the last two years, and I believe that he will even be a little stronger now, thanks to Conker: Live and Reloaded for Xbox, a remake of Conker's Bad Fur Day, which looks absolutely amazing.

As for Mega Man, this first match, much like other favourites' opening matches, will not tell us all that much about him. Last year's adjusted X-Stats make him into a favourite to win the contest, but I think he'll have a VERY hard time making it into the Final Four. At least, he has the easiest division his fans could possibly want, with one of the weakest 2nd seeds and a not much stronger 3rd one. He'll win this match, and by a lot. But that shouldn't get anyone too excited about his chances here.

Predicted percentage: Mega Man with 74.75%.
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You guys like that 74%
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Leon's Quest For Ultimate Glory:
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Hmmm...So only outback is calling for the tripling.
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I found all the 74% love odd too.

I also expect Conker to boost a little, and Crono IS stronger than Mega Man.
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I fully expect Mega Man to overperform to expectations tomorrow (read: do better than Crono) and send the topic into fits again.

...or not. We could do without some drama.
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I'd like to see the fits the topic would have if he struggled to get 70%.
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Big fits full of fireworks.
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Leon's Quest For Ultimate Glory:
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Match 29: (1) Mega Man vs. (8) Conker

Past Performances

Mega Man

Summer 2002
Beat Ms. Pac-Man, 92.30% - 7.70%
Beat Serious Sam, 91.84% - 8.16%
Lost to Sephiroth, 49.49% - 50.51%
Ranked: 3rd

Summer 2003
Beat Mr. Resetti, 88.96% - 11.04%
Beat Zelda, 60.75% - 39.25%
Beat Tommy Vercetti, 66.86% - 33.14%
Beat Solid Snake, 53.50% - 46.50%
Lost to Sephiroth, 38.82% - 61.18%
Ranked: 4th

Summer 2004
Beat Earthworm Jim, 82.98% - 17.02%
Beat Tidus, 64.78% - 35.22%
Beat Zero, 56.01% - 43.99%
Beat Solid Snake, 57.19% - 42.81%
Lost to Link, 32.39% - 67.61%
Ranked: 8th

Spring 2005
Did not attend
Ranked: N/A

Conker

Summer 2002
Did not attend
Ranked: N/A

Summer 2003
Lost to Yoshi, 33.54% - 66.46%
Ranked: 46th

Summer 2004
Lost to Crono, 22.01% - 77.99%
Ranked: 43rd

Spring 2005
Did not attend
Ranked: N/A

Analysis

Welcome to the final division for this round. Not only is this the last division, but it’s also the weakest one, heck for Mega Man to be the favorite to take this division he would only have to double Conker and even then things have changed since 2k3. This match won’t tell us too much of what’s coming ahead since there’s so many different factors to consider.

Well last year Mega Man screwed up his whole division with his match against Link because he underperformed by like 3% or did he? Out of the nine characters that did return two of them went against new characters, another two went against each other, two others were in Frog’s 4-pack, Zero underperformed, don’t get me started on Knuckles and finally we have Mega Man’s match tomorrow. So as you can see you can’t really make a case for last year’s 20XX division yet. Hopefully we’ll get some better answers next round.

After years with no games Conker finally gets a new game on the Xbox and since Conker has only been in a few games this should give him some kind of a boost. The only problem is that his game was only released two months ago and from what I’ve heard it’s no where near as good as CBFD so we may have to wait till next year before we get the full Conker boost. Conker may be considered fodder, but he can only get stronger by this game no matter how bad it is.

Mega Man may not have to impress us to get him out of this division, but after he makes it out he’s going to have a tough time getting to the final 4 or even the finals (not that I think he could make it there), but then again to be able to look good against Crono I think Mega Man is going to have to at least and I mean at least triple Conker for him to have a chance in the finals.

charmander6000’s Bracket: Mega Man over Conker

charmander6000’s Prediction: Mega Man wins, 73.26% - 26.74%

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Conker not mature? That game had some of the most brilliant writing in the history of video games.
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Hmm. I think outback's right... The strongest characters in this contest have been tripling people en masse, and I doubt that Conker is noticeably better. I say Mega Man looks pretty close to Crono tomorrow, fueling paranoia about that possible final four showdown.
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This match is 270 votes behind Ganondorf/Yuna with three hours to go, and we just broke 100,000. Can it catch up?
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You fear? Mega Man looking bad means Conker looks good. Don't be a traitor now >_>

I was speaking through my bracket's eyes (though it's essentially done for now)...though, to be fair, I still think Mega Man > Conker. The squirrel's gettin' my vote, nonetheless; between being under-loved and undoubtedly losing, he's got my support for tomorrow.
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From: Mister Mario
Conker not mature? That game had some of the most brilliant writing in the history of video games.

I just beat the game and.... most of its just juvenile. Seriously, there is nothing brillant about it...
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I'll also back up Conker having some brilliant writing. While it may be unorthadox, sporadic, and overly off-the-wall, it makes for a beautiful swing of moods in the game; the foreword is dark, then the game begins cheery and light-hearted with its good shots of humor...then, as you progress further, it gets more menacing and grueling, finishing with an unusual-yet-almost-heart-breaking ending.
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O_O

It reminded me a lot of Monty Python, for some reason. They're bloody juvenile too, but still wonderful.

It's mature, clever toliet humor.
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Don't forget you can see some British influence in it, too.
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Exactly.
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Im sorry if I dont see the humor in a flower with huge jugs, a giant poo singing to you, or most anything else it.

It had some funny lines, but most of it just of the humor was either way too dry or way too "LOOK WHAT WE JUST SAID DOESNT THAT JUST SHOCK YOU!! LAUGH LAUGH!!"
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Leon's Quest For Ultimate Glory:
1. Tripling Gordon Freeman.

"It had some funny lines, but most of it just of the humor was either way too dry or way too "LOOK WHAT WE JUST SAID DOESNT THAT JUST SHOCK YOU!! LAUGH LAUGH!!""

The very definition of British comedy.
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I'm not gonna say it's gonna appeal to everyone's taste; I think it draws the same kind of attention Earthbound does: love it or hate it. I don't like Earthbound's quirky humor and development (of what I played; I got to where you first control Jeff, for those wondering)...but Conker hit the spot with me.

NewLib, out of curiousity, what parts did you find the best?
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Like you mean dialog parts or like parts of the game?

Most of the dialog comments that I thought were funny were just some off-the-cuff comments by Conker. I liked his dialog more than any of the gimmick villians.
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Meh... I liked the game better on N64. They censored too much stuff on XBox, and got rid of all the multiplayer games that I loved on the N64. I was anticipating being able to play Heist, Raptor, and the other multiplayer games online. I'm not really into online gaming, but I figured Conker would be the game to get me into it, since I already loved playing the multiplayer.

Instead, I got a totally revamped multiplayer that pretty much played like any other class based online shooter. They pretty much took out the random fun of the N64 multiplayer. I tried to get into it, but it ended up with people finding exploits with certain classes and spamming them to all hell. I don't think I will ever enjoy any online game... v_v SSBO will be my last hope...
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I never played the N64 version, what was changed?
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I didn't THINK there was alot changed fron the N64 outside of the multi-player...

...then my brother played C:L&R...

...I have since been reminded that N64-Conker was noticably different in several aspects, the biggest being both the censored content and the difficulty. I'll also agree with therealmnm's sentiments about how the multi-player from N64-Conker should have been kept. I would have been plenty content if they had kept the multi-player they have in Xbox-Conker and just had N64-Conker's multi-players as just mini-games, even; the point is that it would have been great to still have them back.
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Also, I dunno if I just remember him differently or not, but does anybody else who's played both think The Great Mighty Poo sounds like there was somebody else singing than in N64-Conker?
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They got rid of the multiplayer games in the XBox version? Wow Rare frikking sucks.

According to imdb.com, he has the same VA.
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I think all of the changes I mentioned (outside of the multi-player) was influenced by Microsoft instead of Rare; between replacing the frying pan with the bat with nails, making the game easier, and censoring a lil' more...I'd blame most of that on Microsoft pressuring Rare to make it more casual-friendly. I'd say they played a big part in making the multi-player focus go the direction they did, too, though I'm not so sure on that one.
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Hillary Clinton: We need to treat violent video games the way we treat tobacco or alcohol.
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Ah, appreciate it Leonhart. I knew it was sung the same way, I just couldn't tell if it was sung by the same guy.
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I never played the N64 version, what was changed?

Not much changed from the N64 single player. They censored it, gave Conker a nail bat instead of a frying pan, added some enemies (the creepy babies and more of the spike things), changed the looks of the Tediz (they don't look like cute stuffed bears anymore), and gave Conker the Van Helsing look in Spooky.

As far as multiplayer goes, they completely got rid of the old multiplayer. The old multiplayer had quite a few modes that were different, but all pretty much fun as hell.

Total War - Squirrels vs. Tediz. Like the XBox multiplayer except not class based. You started out with your standard gun and had to find other weapons throughout the map to use (bazooka, katanas, flamethrower, sniper rifle etc.). You had to steal a bomb from the other teams base and take it to a detonation point in the center of the map.

Capture the Flag - Same as above. Capture other teams flag and take it back to the base.

Beach - D-Day rehash. Frenchies vs. Tediz. Frenchies side had to make it from the beach to an inland checkpoint. Tediz controlled turrets and had to prevent that.

Heist - My personal favorite. You played as weasels in 4-teams of two. The purpose of the game was to grab a moneybag in the middle of the vault and take it back to your respective base. Your partner had to protect you. Weapons included standard baseball bats, tommy guns, bazookas, throwing knives, and sniper rifles.

Raptor - Like capture the flag, except with Raptors vs. Ugas. Raptors had to take Ugas back to their nest to feed their young. Ugas had to steal a Raptor egg and take it back to their base to fry. Raptors were obviously stronger, but Ugas had the advantage of numbers and long range weapons.

Deathmatch - Standard deathmatch in Tediz base. All weapons accessible, and you could even pee on people if you fought in the bathroom. :)

Tank - Deathmatch using tanks.

Race - A rehash of the racing section of Uga Buga.

Heh, I think I'm going to use this post in my Conker write-up in my top games list. :)
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Wow, both Luigi and Tifa look like they can beat Sonic. There match is gonna be pretty interesting.
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Summer Contest Score: 25/27
Today's Pick: Luigi

The Beach multi-player level was my favorite, bar none. The others were fun, yes, and I remember really gettin' into Heist before I let my bro take my N64 with him when he moved out...but Beach was always numero uno with me.
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Best multiplayer shooter, ever.
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I loved Heist and Beach. Good times.

Mega Man will reach 80% tomorrow, I've foreseen it. You guys are ignoring the MMIASUFKF. This will put Mega Man over the threshold, regardless of where he is in relation to Crono.
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Jesus, how is this poll getting so many votes? It's not close, and neither of these two are big draws. o_O

Luigi's going to have almost as many votes as Tifa got (and more than Sonic got, BTW), and against a stronger opponent, no less. Things are getting more and more interesting.
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The Great Mighty Poo is also much more difficult to understand in the Xbox version, due to an added echo effect.
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Just to compare stats for Mega Man/Conker...


--Conker 2k3 would get 23.5% against Mega Man 2k3.
--Conker 2k4 would get 22.74% against adjusted Mega Man 2k4.
--Conker 2k4 would get 25.27% against unadjusted Mega Man 2k4.


...so, personally, I don't expect Conker to be below 26% tomorrow, and I could see him gettin' up to 29% (which is really a push); it just depends on what C:L&R did for him. Too bad its sales have been lackluster thus far (right now, I think it's sold about half of what CBFD sold total), though he's definitely been exposed to a new audience.

Do keep in mind that the better Conker does against Mega Man, the better Yoshi looks against Mega Man; Luigi's already lookin' stronger than Sonic and unadjusted Mega Man, and Yoshi soundly beat Luigi 55-45 last year. Yoshi also barely missed the doubling against Conker in 2k3, so Conker doin' well can mean three things: Conker gained, Mega Man dropped, and/or Yoshi looks to be impressive.
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It mighta been the echo that screwed me up on The Great Mighty Poo.....
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Well, maybe Yoshi, Bowser, and Luigi are all relatively equal in strength, but the SFF pushes them away from each other.

Or something like that. Either way, if Yoshi pushes the quadrupling against Laharl, he looks like a tough opponent for the Blue Bomber. Whether or not that'll actually be the case remains to be seen.
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And it looks like Luigi might not stay above 66% by the end of the match. KOS-MOS has taken some large strides with the night vote.
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Nintendo chars always perform worst during the night, so it's only to be expected.

Either way, though, if some or most of Luigi's increase had been there last year, then Yoshi looks mighty impressive.

And it looks like Nintendo SFF are extremely massive, but it's understandable, since most Nintendo chars earn their popularity through being icons, rather than being chars with specific personalities.

So I do expect the bandwagon jumping between Nintendo chars to be a huge factor.

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If that's the case, Mario>Samus for life? >>;
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Somebody (already forgot who, sorry) noted earlier that KOS-MOS gained in the second night against Ryu and Luigi weakened in the second night vote against Pac-Man, so I'm not all that surprised. However, I was surprised KOS-MOS wasn't coming back during the day-time instead of now.
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If that's the case, Mario>Samus for life? >>;

I don't think so, Link SFF'ed Mario in 2k2, making Cloud look extremely weak in 2k2.

Now, we know that Samus is no Link, but it's still possible for her to SFF Mario like Link did.

Afterall, Nintendo SFF does NOT always go Mario's way.

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However, I was surprised KOS-MOS wasn't coming back during the day-time instead of now.

Well, Nintendo is still quite decent with the afternoon vote.

In 2k4, Cloud didn't start cutting back Link's percentage/lead until late into the second night vote.

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Funny how the top 3 matches in vote totals all involve females that are generally considered attractive. >_>
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