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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 205
From: swirldude | Posted: 8/15/2005 3:03:28 PM | Message Detail
Worse than Link/Ganondorf
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Knuckles the Echidna's road to the Sc2k5 Title!
Round 2: (2)Squall Leonhart
From: MegatokyoEd | Posted: 8/15/2005 3:04:12 PM | Message Detail
I doubt it'd be anywhere near that bad. Luigi actually has some fans that like more than Mario.
From: mr_BRIAN | Posted: 8/15/2005 3:04:18 PM | Message Detail
83-17 or so.

I can't see Luigi doing much worse than that.
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The King of all Cosmos' route to summer victory:
Round 1: (0) Voters
From: swirldude | Posted: 8/15/2005 3:06:21 PM | Message Detail
I doubt it'd be anywhere near that bad. Luigi actually has some fans that like more than Mario.

Like me. But I also liek Ganondorf more than Link. Look where that got me.
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Knuckles the Echidna's road to the Sc2k5 Title!
Round 2: (2)Squall Leonhart
From: Ayvuir | Posted: 8/15/2005 3:06:39 PM | Message Detail
i think Luigi would put up a pretty good fight.

Whats everyone think of Auron/Ganondorf by the way? i got Ganon, but im thinking Auron could pull it off
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Vincent's Path to Victory: Round 1 - (4) Sarah Kerrigan OWNED 79200 - 21058 Round 2 - (1) Dante
From: mr_BRIAN | Posted: 8/15/2005 3:08:40 PM | Message Detail
Ganon in a 70/30 blowout. They have a common opponent in Diablo.
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The King of all Cosmos' route to summer victory:
Round 1: (0) Voters
From: Karma Hunter | Posted: 8/15/2005 3:13:07 PM | Message Detail
*looks at 70/30 blowout*

O_O

*remembers Kratos Auron typo*

-_-
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I'm about to get sigged by Karma Hunter, and all I'll get is this lousy T-shirt.--Clockwork Dragon
From: Mac Arrowny | Posted: 8/15/2005 3:58:38 PM | Message Detail
Kratos Aurion vs KOS-MOS
Who would you take to be the most powerful non-Squaresoft console RPG character?


How about Diablo?

And...who would everyone take in a Ganon vs. Tifa match? Personally I'd take Ganon...but I'd take Ganon over everyone except for the Superior Six. Maybe even over Mario.
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Pity for the guilty is treason to the innocent.
From: Karma Hunter | Posted: 8/15/2005 3:59:57 PM | Message Detail
Since when did Diablo go to consoles? o.o
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"i started playing mario brothers as luigi and threw the controller down in disgust in the middle of the game because he lacked character"--gokujont
From: Mac Arrowny | Posted: 8/15/2005 4:01:47 PM | Message Detail
Since when did Diablo go to consoles? o.o

http://www.gamefaqs.com/console/psx/data/197112.html

It even went Greatest Hits...in Japan? WTF?
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Pity for the guilty is treason to the innocent.
From: Karma Hunter | Posted: 8/15/2005 4:02:27 PM | Message Detail
Oh, I guess he *did* appear on PS1 and MSX...still, ports of games seem sketchy for that criteria...
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"i started playing mario brothers as luigi and threw the controller down in disgust in the middle of the game because he lacked character"--gokujont
From: transience | Posted: 8/15/2005 4:06:26 PM | Message Detail
calling Diablo a console game is like calling FF7 and 8 a PC game. I've actually played Diablo for PS1 - good god, it's awful.
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"HOLY ****ING HELL, I JUST WOKE UP, VOTED MAGUS, WENT TO CLICK CONTEST STATS, DOUBLE TOOK, AND COULD NOT ****ING BELIEVE IT." - Explicit Content
From: Heroic Knuckles | Posted: 8/15/2005 4:08:11 PM | Message Detail
Kratos being the strongest non-Squaresoft console RPG character really says something... but it's something we've always known.

How badly does Megaman need to beat Conker to prove he's still got what it takes to beat Tifa?
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>_<
60th/125 in the Guru Standings.
From: cyko | Posted: 8/15/2005 4:09:19 PM | Message Detail

And...who would everyone take in a Ganon vs. Tifa match?


until i see otherwise, i'm still going with Tifa. before the contest started, i said that i would pick Tifa and Vincent over everyone else, except Samus, Crono, Mario, Megaman, and Sonic.

and good job by Luigi. between Nintendo's recent dominance and KOS-MOS's pic and lousy sequel, i wasn't gonna be surprised to see Luigi hit 60%, but 67% is very impressive. he still ain't gonna beat Tifa, though. ^_^

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"Start wearing purple, for me now. All your sanity and wits, they will all vanish, i promise. It's just a matter of time..."
From: Master Moltar | Posted: 8/15/2005 4:11:52 PM | Message Detail
Crono got 77.99% on Conker, so Tifa (using Vyse) would probably get over 80% (no time to do calculations now)

I'm expected Conker not to just die though, so 70-75 for Mega sounds reasonable.
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Moltar's Comics - http://www.stripcreator.com/comics/Moltar
Luigi vs. KOS-MOS - Bracket: Luigi - Vote: Luigi (24/27)
From: Karma Hunter | Posted: 8/15/2005 4:12:57 PM | Message Detail
Question because I'm tired and am apt to make a miscalculation somewhere. Let's assume that pictures made no difference in the Zero/Hayabusa match of 2k5 and the Sora/Hayabusa match of 2k4 (a stretch for some, of course). Let's assume a static Zero from 2k4 (or 2k3, if you don't trust the results of Mega Man/Zero 2k4). Extrapolating from a static Zero and Hayabusa, what would Samus' percentage on Sora be in 2k4 project her to get on 2k4 Cloud?

I only ask because people are getting caught up in the hype of characters like Tifa taking the contest, when I remember that same hype from last year (and people *did* buy it) for Samus after she took down her first two opponents. People have rationalized this with the Magus drop and Lara simply fading into oblivion, but I want to see if her match against Sora suggested the same thing.

...eh, I'll probably just do it myself, with limited success.
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"i started playing mario brothers as luigi and threw the controller down in disgust in the middle of the game because he lacked character"--gokujont
From: cyko | Posted: 8/15/2005 4:20:06 PM | Message Detail

Top 10 Closest Matches (difference in percentage)

1) 1.72% - Knuckles over Magus
2) 2.28% - Tommy Vercetti over Kefka
3) 3.34% - Frog over Riku
4) 9.38% - Lloyd Irving over Albert Wesker
5) 10.28% - Ness over Carl Johnson
6) 11.04% - Alucard over Kratos
7) 11.44% - Ryu over Rikku
8) 13.52% - Diablo over Kratos Aurion

9) 19.12% - Zelda over Vivi
10) 22.40% - Ganondorf over Yuna


Top 10 Smallest Vote Gaps (difference in votes)

1) 1756 - Knuckles over Magus
2) 2245 - Tommy Vercetti over Kefka
3) 3149 - Frog over Riku
4) 7952 - Lloyd Irving over Albert Wesker
5) 10036 - Alucard over Kratos
6) 10237 - Ness over Carl Johnson
7) 11621 - Diablo over Kratos Aurion

8) 12156 - Ryu over Rikku
9) 20023 - Zelda over Vivi
10) 23736 - Zero over Ryu Hayabusa

Top 10 Biggest Blowouts (difference in percentage)

1) 74.68% - Samus Aran over Yuri Hyuga
2) 68.18% - Solid Snake over Manny Calavera
3) 61.78% - Mario over Joanna Dark
4) 58.00% - Vincent Valentine over Sarah Kerrigan
5) 56.14% - Tifa Lockheart over Vyse

6) 53.44% - Crono over Zidane
7) 52.30% - Sonic the Hedgehog over Jin Kazama
8) 50.42% - Kirby over Cecil
9) 49.68% - Squall Leonhart over Geno
10) 45.08% - Tidus over King of All Cosmos

Top 10 Biggest Vote Gaps (difference in votes)

1) 63680 - Samus Aran over Yuri Hyuga
2) 62487 - Solid Snake over Manny Calavera
3) 61244 - Mario over Joanna Dark
4) 58142 - Vincent Valentine over Sarah Kerrigan
5) 54045 - Tifa Lockheart over Vyse

6) 51944 - Crono over Zidane
7) 49390 - Squall Leonhart over Geno
8) 47602 - Sonic the Hedgehog over Jin Kazama
9) 45621 - Tidus over King of All Cosmos
10) 45289 - Kirby over Cecil

Top 10 Most Popular Polls (by vote totals)

1) 106979 - Ganondorf vs. Yuna
2) 106264 - Ryu vs. Rikku
3) 104671 - Vivi vs. Zelda
4) 102062 - Magus vs. Knuckles
5) 101195 - Tidus vs. King of All Cosmos
6) 100496 - Bowser vs. Chun-Li
7) 100258 - Sarah Kerrigan vs. Vincent Valentine
8) 99525 - Ness vs. Carl Johnson
9) 99434 - Squall Leonhart vs. Geno
10) 99126 - Mario vs. Joanna Dark

Top 10 Least Popular Polls (by vote totals)

1) 84794 - Lloyd Irving vs. Albert Wesker
2) 85306 - Samus Aran vs. Yuri Hyuga
3) 85945 - Kratos Aurion vs. Diablo

4) 87141 - Donkey Kong vs. Sam Fisher
5) 88144 - Sora vs. Agent 47
6) 89823 - Kirby vs. Cecil
7) 90928 - Kratos vs. Alucard
8) 91032 - Sonic the Hedgehog vs. Jin Kazama
9) 91278 - Zero vs. Ryu Hayabusa
10) 91639 - Solid Snake vs. Manny Calavera

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"Start wearing purple, for me now. All your sanity and wits, they will all vanish, i promise. It's just a matter of time..."
From: cyko | Posted: 8/15/2005 4:20:17 PM | Message Detail

Top 10 Highest Individual Votes

1) 80185 - Mario
2) 79200 - Vincent Valentine
3) 77063 - Solid Snake
4) 75159 - Tifa Lockheart

5) 74580 - Crono
6) 74493 - Samus Aran
7) 74412 - Squall Leonhart
8) 73408 - Tidus
9) 69317 - Sonic the Hedgehog
10) 67639 - Auron

Top 10 Lowest Individual Votes

1) 10813 - Yuri Hyuga
2) 14576 - Manny Calavera
3) 18941 - Joanna Dark
4) 21058 - Sarah Kerrigan
5) 21114 - Vyse the Unimpressive

6) 21715 - Jin Kazama
7) 22267 - Cecil
8) 22636 - Zidane
9) 25022 - Geno
10) 25796 - Agent 47

Top 10 Most Impressive Losers (by votes)

1) 50153 - Magus
2) 47920 - Kefka
3) 47054 - Rikku
4) 45455 - Riku
5) 44644 - Carl Johnson
6) 42324 - Vivi
7) 41503 - Yuna
8) 40446 - Kratos
9) 38421 - Albert Wesker
10) 37162 - Kratos Aurion


Top 10 Least Impressive Winners (by votes)

1) 46373 - Lloyd Irving
2) 48604 - Frog
3) 48783 - Diablo

4) 50165 - Tommy Vercetti
5) 50482 - Alucard
6) 51909 - Knuckles
7) 54881 - Ness
8) 56433 - Donkey Kong
9) 57507 - Zero
10) 59210 - Ryu

Top 10 Easiest Matches to Predict (based on entrants choosing the

winner)

1) 97.98% - Solid Snake over Manny Calavera
2) 96.76% - Samus Aran over Yuri Hyuga
3) 96.53% - Mario over Joanna Dark
4) 92.20% - Master Cheif over CATS
5) 92.10% - Sonic the Hedgehog over Jin Kazama
6) 89.87% - Crono over Zidane
7) 89.72% - Tifa Lockheart over Vyse

8) 89.12% - Squall Leonhart over Geno
9) 88.33% - Dante over Terra
10) 88.07% - Bowser over Chun-Li

Top 10 Hardest Matches to Predict (based on entrants choosing the

winner)

1) 35.08% - Knuckles over Magus
2) 37.66% - Tommy Vercetti over Kefka
3) 51.31% - Alucard over Kratos
4) 51.90% - Ness over Carl Johnson
5) 53.08% - Frog over Riku
6) 53.88% - Lloyd Irving over Albert Wesker
7) 69.09% - Zero over Ryu Hayabusa
8) 71.08% - Donkey Kong over Sam Fisher
9) 74.98% - Ryu over Rikku
10) 75.77% - Vincent Valentine over Sarah Kerrigan

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"Start wearing purple, for me now. All your sanity and wits, they will all vanish, i promise. It's just a matter of time..."
From: Mumei | Posted: 8/15/2005 4:22:58 PM | Message Detail
5) 21114 - Vyse the Unimpressive

You are quite cruel...

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<_<
From: mr_BRIAN | Posted: 8/15/2005 4:26:47 PM | Message Detail
5) 21114 - Vyse the Unimpressive

XD ;_;
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The King of all Cosmos' route to summer victory:
Round 1: (0) Voters
From: Master Moltar | Posted: 8/15/2005 4:27:55 PM | Message Detail
5) 21114 - Vyse the Unimpressive

You are quite cruel...


But it's so very true.

Side-note: Luigi has fell below 67%.
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Moltar's Comics - http://www.stripcreator.com/comics/Moltar
Luigi vs. KOS-MOS - Bracket: Luigi - Vote: Luigi (24/27)
From: Haste2 | Posted: 8/15/2005 4:30:47 PM | Message Detail
Through unadjusted 2K4 Zero, Sora is at 29.54% on 2K3 Link, or 28.59% on 2K4 Cloud.

Through unadjusted 2K3 Zero, Sora is at 32.17 on 2K3 Link, or 31.13% on 2K4 Cloud.

So, tomorrow...which will happen...Mega Man failing to reach 70%, or Mega Man exceeding 85%?

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"Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun! So...what is a party?"
"Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think."
From: NewLib | Posted: 8/15/2005 4:31:54 PM | Message Detail
Can I answer both?
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Leon's Quest For Ultimate Glory:
1. Tripling Gordon Freeman.
From: yoblazer33 | Posted: 8/15/2005 4:33:37 PM | Message Detail
At this rate, it doesn't look like he'll get the doubling.

Head missile, damn you! HEAD MISSILE!!!
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Board 8: Where people treat each other right.
From: kungfu chicken | Posted: 8/15/2005 4:36:07 PM | Message Detail
is it any way possible that as far as a ff7 fan is concerned, tifa, vincent or any other player character=cloud and seph as far as getting their vote as long they arent facing cloud or seph?
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*pacing back in forth waiting for: advance wars ds, twilight princess, ffxii, kingdom hearts 2, castlevania dos*
From: cyko | Posted: 8/15/2005 4:37:30 PM | Message Detail
5) 21114 - Vyse the Unimpressive

You are quite cruel...


XD

i know, i know. i don't hate Vyse or anything, but that IS the title he starts the game with. so, i just couldn't resist.

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"Start wearing purple, for me now. All your sanity and wits, they will all vanish, i promise. It's just a matter of time..."
From: ChichiriMuyo | Posted: 8/15/2005 4:42:02 PM | Message Detail
And he deserves it after that match... I mean heck, assuming he hasn't fallen he is the character who clings tightly to our lowest level of respect.
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Now Link, fill up your hearts
So you can shoot your sword with power
From: mr_BRIAN | Posted: 8/15/2005 4:45:27 PM | Message Detail
Head missile, damn you! HEAD MISSILE!!!

Yeah, misfire off the edge!
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The King of all Cosmos' route to summer victory:
Round 1: (0) Voters
From: HaRRicH | Posted: 8/15/2005 5:14:52 PM | Message Detail
Yeesh, I didn't know TVs were so expensive; I just got done buying my parents a $600 television. They better love it...

...on topic, Luigi's not gonna get to keep the doubling, and she could possibly get herself back up to almost 35% if things swing her way. However, even if she does, Luigi made a name for himself here; he almost had her looking like Pac-Man this morning.
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Hillary Clinton: We need to treat violent video games the way we treat tobacco or alcohol.
Lewis Black: Namely as valued contributors to our re-election fund.
From: charmander6000 | Posted: 8/15/2005 5:19:50 PM | Message Detail
...on topic, Luigi's not gonna get to keep the doubling, and she could possibly get herself back up to almost 35% if things swing her way. However, even if she does, Luigi made a name for himself here; he almost had her looking like Pac-Man this morning.

So will Pac-Man be near KOS-MOS when he's against Ocelot
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I've been Pwned by KoaC. He really is the king of all cosmos.
From: HaRRicH | Posted: 8/15/2005 5:44:26 PM | Message Detail
That would definitely be to Pac-Man's advantage if this means he's as strong as her, but that likely isn't what this means.
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Hillary Clinton: We need to treat violent video games the way we treat tobacco or alcohol.
Lewis Black: Namely as valued contributors to our re-election fund.
From: Slowflake | Posted: 8/15/2005 6:02:11 PM | Message Detail
Luigi's not keeping up the doubling, that's for sure, but still, a few points ahead of Ryu is nothing to sneer at.

Oh, and to Ulti saying FF7 domination instead of Square: not only do I doubt Squall SFFed Geno much, since Geno is easier to associate with Nintendo (see Sora and Square), Auron, Yuna and Rikku all looked great. I never said Square either, but NEW Square. There's a very good reason Frog (boo), Magus (BOOOOOO), Terra (YAY) and Cecil (meh) didn't follow suit.
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"You can't have gone over a kilometer up. 1500 meters, tops." -Samus Aran
"I'll express my love to you slowly, later." -Setzer Gabbiani
From: HaRRicH | Posted: 8/15/2005 6:07:22 PM | Message Detail
Hell, let's not forget that Ulti called for an easy quadruple from Crono, too. Also, let's not forget that Frog's opponent, Riku, is New Square too (or Disney, but for our purposes they're one of the same if Riku is Disney's property). It's definitely lookin' to be more New Square than anything else.
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Hillary Clinton: We need to treat violent video games the way we treat tobacco or alcohol.
Lewis Black: Namely as valued contributors to our re-election fund.
From: Dranze | Posted: 8/15/2005 6:19:21 PM | Message Detail
As I said before, Luigi based on 2003 Pac-Man projects a 64.11% win here. Now if Yoshi quadruples Laharl, it all lines up.....

So, if Yoshi succeeds, Pac-man Vs Ocelot will be close?
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"I dont know what I am talking about? I know more about gaming than 90 percent of the users on the internet." -xmagxus
From: Slowflake | Posted: 8/15/2005 6:22:24 PM | Message Detail
Who noticed the crazy vote totals? Luigi lives up to his reputation as a huge vote-drawer.
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"You can't have gone over a kilometer up. 1500 meters, tops." -Samus Aran
"I'll express my love to you slowly, later." -Setzer Gabbiani
From: swirldude | Posted: 8/15/2005 6:30:16 PM | Message Detail
Green = Mass Votage
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Knuckles the Echidna's road to the Sc2k5 Title!
Round 2: (2)Squall Leonhart
From: Slowflake | Posted: 8/15/2005 6:47:58 PM | Message Detail
My external appearance is down 5%! Shion, I need to be cleaned!

This begs for a makeover.

My fanbase is down 30%! George, I need to be stuffed!

NOTE: Slowflake Communications Inc. do not practice, endorse, or encourage vote-stuffing.
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"You can't have gone over a kilometer up. 1500 meters, tops." -Samus Aran
"I'll express my love to you slowly, later." -Setzer Gabbiani
From: swirldude | Posted: 8/15/2005 7:07:28 PM | Message Detail
So...based on the 20XX controversy and Conker: Live and Reloaded, where tomorrow's result lands is a crapshoot.
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Knuckles the Echidna's road to the Sc2k5 Title!
Round 2: (2)Squall Leonhart
From: Janus5000 | Posted: 8/15/2005 7:14:03 PM | Message Detail
It's definitely lookin' to be more New Square than anything else.

I agree.

Poor Alucard ;_;
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The King of all Cosmos' route to summer victory:
Round 1: (0) Voters
From: HaRRicH | Posted: 8/15/2005 7:18:18 PM | Message Detail
Mega Man's gonna look bad tomorrow, I fear.
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Hillary Clinton: We need to treat violent video games the way we treat tobacco or alcohol.
Lewis Black: Namely as valued contributors to our re-election fund.
From: Tediz247 | Posted: 8/15/2005 7:31:30 PM | Message Detail
You fear? Mega Man looking bad means Conker looks good. Don't be a traitor now >_>
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That... was her final mission. And like a true soldier, she saw it through the end.
ZSB [aX]
From: Sir Crono | Posted: 8/15/2005 7:32:24 PM | Message Detail
So, if Yoshi succeeds, Pac-man Vs Ocelot will be close?

Not necessarily. It doesn't really imply that one way or the other, though it'd be a strange coincidence if it lined up that way.

Regardless, I've felt since the beginning that Pac-Man was closer to his 2003 value than his 2004.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Contest 2005 Championship
Round 2: (3) Mag...Er...(6) Knuckles the Echidna
From: Slowflake | Posted: 8/15/2005 7:35:47 PM | Message Detail
2003 adjusted, which pretty much means 2002, right?
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"You can't have gone over a kilometer up. 1500 meters, tops." -Samus Aran
"I'll express my love to you slowly, later." -Setzer Gabbiani
From: Sir Crono | Posted: 8/15/2005 7:38:07 PM | Message Detail
And fun with numbers (credit due to RPGuy96 for the title):

Tifa (through Vyse) vs. 2004 Luigi - 71.85%

Tifa (through Vyse) vs. Luigi (through KOS-MOS) - 58.63%

Tifa (equal to Sonic) vs. 2004 Luigi - 65.76%

Tifa (equal to Sonic) vs. Luigi (through KOS-MOS) - 49.67%
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Contest 2005 Championship
Round 2: (3) Mag...Er...(6) Knuckles the Echidna
From: Sir Crono | Posted: 8/15/2005 7:45:03 PM | Message Detail
At the 19:40 mark, this match has 95,972 votes.

Mario/Joanna - 88,874
Ganondorf/Yuna - 96,254
Ryu/Rikku - 95,008
Squall/Geno - 89,581
Tifa/Vyse - 85,766

Looks like this match is on pace for the 2nd highest vote total of the contest so far, and isn't too far from 1st.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Contest 2005 Championship
Round 2: (3) Mag...Er...(6) Knuckles the Echidna
From: yoblazer33 | Posted: 8/15/2005 7:54:46 PM | Message Detail
How in the hell is Luigi such a draw? Ah well, I'm loving it.
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Board 8: Where people treat each other right.
From: Slowflake | Posted: 8/15/2005 7:55:48 PM | Message Detail
He's always been, to be honest. Not that he's a powerhouse because of it, but whatever.
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"You can't have gone over a kilometer up. 1500 meters, tops." -Samus Aran
"I'll express my love to you slowly, later." -Setzer Gabbiani
From: Sir Crono | Posted: 8/15/2005 7:56:22 PM | Message Detail
Do you even have to ask? He's Luigi. Squall/Luigi is still in the top 10 for most votes in contest history somehow and will probably always be the highest vote total between two non-Noble Niners.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Contest 2005 Championship
Round 2: (3) Mag...Er...(6) Knuckles the Echidna
From: NewLib | Posted: 8/15/2005 7:57:18 PM | Message Detail
Here is somethat is interesting. Luigi's and Tifa's vote totals are really close despite having two face characters of different strengths...


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Leon's Quest For Ultimate Glory:
1. Tripling Gordon Freeman.
From: Dranze | Posted: 8/15/2005 7:58:41 PM | Message Detail
Wow, Luigi sure has been impressive.
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"I dont know what I am talking about? I know more about gaming than 90 percent of the users on the internet." -xmagxus
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