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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 205
From: sidharta
| Posted: 8/15/2005 9:07:23 AM | Message Detail
I don't think Luigi has a chance against Tifa, afterall he did get punked by Squall in 2k3.
And Tifa's game, FF VII, is a much bigger force in this site than FF VIII, Squall's game.
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And Tifa's game, FF VII, is a much bigger force in this site than FF VIII, Squall's game.
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From: Tediz247
| Posted: 8/15/2005 9:07:25 AM | Message Detail
I think this match helps prove what I've been saying since Frog/Snake:
Pics have a serious effect on matches. KOS-MOS didn't get the hot Anime
girl picture, she got her "inferior" design. Also, she doesn't have
massive TJF helping her. I think this is KOS-MOS's true value, not her
previous values.
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That... was her final mission. And like a true soldier, she saw it through the end.
ZSB [aX]
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That... was her final mission. And like a true soldier, she saw it through the end.
ZSB [aX]
From: NewLib
| Posted: 8/15/2005 9:08:01 AM | Message Detail
Makes you wonder. First pic Tifa doesnt get TJF in her pic, does she take the fall?
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Leon's Quest For Ultimate Glory:
1. Tripling Gordon Freeman.
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Leon's Quest For Ultimate Glory:
1. Tripling Gordon Freeman.
From: Karma Hunter
| Posted: 8/15/2005 9:11:16 AM | Message Detail
LOL @ TJF coming back in actual stat discussion.
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From: Tediz247
| Posted: 8/15/2005 9:11:34 AM | Message Detail
I wouldn't be surprised if she took a pretty big fall, but she should
still be recognizable even without it. Albedo really pointed towards
nobody really caring about Xenosaga.
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That... was her final mission. And like a true soldier, she saw it through the end.
ZSB [aX]
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That... was her final mission. And like a true soldier, she saw it through the end.
ZSB [aX]
From: sidharta
| Posted: 8/15/2005 9:11:46 AM | Message Detail
For the record, I still don't believe that pics can make such a huge difference.
Remember, we're not talking about advertising here, the casuals are already sold to each of their favorites.
All this contest does is ask them who it is.
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Remember, we're not talking about advertising here, the casuals are already sold to each of their favorites.
All this contest does is ask them who it is.
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From: Tediz247
| Posted: 8/15/2005 9:16:18 AM | Message Detail
If you don't believe pics can make a big difference, explain
Frog/Snake, or Sonic/Dante, or CATS exceeding expectations with a face
pic, or even this match.
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That... was her final mission. And like a true soldier, she saw it through the end.
ZSB [aX]
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That... was her final mission. And like a true soldier, she saw it through the end.
ZSB [aX]
From: NewLib
| Posted: 8/15/2005 9:18:20 AM | Message Detail
Sonic/Dante really wasnt that far off.
But yeah the others still stand.
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Leon's Quest For Ultimate Glory:
1. Tripling Gordon Freeman.
But yeah the others still stand.
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Leon's Quest For Ultimate Glory:
1. Tripling Gordon Freeman.
From: Tediz247
| Posted: 8/15/2005 9:20:24 AM | Message Detail
Oh, and, of course, there's Kefka/Wesker, Ryu H/Sora, and Zero/Ryu H.
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That... was her final mission. And like a true soldier, she saw it through the end.
ZSB [aX]
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That... was her final mission. And like a true soldier, she saw it through the end.
ZSB [aX]
From: Brett with Atreyu
| Posted: 8/15/2005 9:25:03 AM | Message Detail
Here's an idea: Luigi increased from 2K4. Superstar Saga had him playing a bigger role than Mario.
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Magus screwed my bracket over. Yay!
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From: Tediz247
| Posted: 8/15/2005 9:26:30 AM | Message Detail
Brett, Superstar Saga was out before SC2K4.
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That... was her final mission. And like a true soldier, she saw it through the end.
ZSB [aX]
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That... was her final mission. And like a true soldier, she saw it through the end.
ZSB [aX]
From: outback
| Posted: 8/15/2005 9:26:32 AM | Message Detail
Tifa v. Sonic is Rd. 3, right? Meaning Sprite Round traditionally?
Sonic wins if it's sprite round, Luigi wins if his match is sprites.
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From: Tediz247
| Posted: 8/15/2005 9:27:26 AM | Message Detail
Sprite Round usually is the Sweet 16, but it also usually follows the Face Round. Nobody knows what Ceej will do.
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That... was her final mission. And like a true soldier, she saw it through the end.
ZSB [aX]
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That... was her final mission. And like a true soldier, she saw it through the end.
ZSB [aX]
From: Brett with Atreyu
| Posted: 8/15/2005 9:27:42 AM | Message Detail
Oh, yeah. >_>
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Magus screwed my bracket over. Yay!
From: sidharta
| Posted: 8/15/2005 9:29:37 AM | Message Detail
I'm sure there will be extreme cases where pics DO matter, like CATS,
where 90% of his supporters probably has never even played Zero Wing.
So getting a Zero Wing pic vs. his online-fad pic will make a significant difference.
Other examples include pics so bad to the point of being unrecognizable (melting Snake), or pics that fans of that char has never seen before (Kerrigan).
But as long as the pics are decent, they won't make much difference in matches involving well known chars.
In today's match, however, both chars are recognizable, so the anomaly must have been caused by some other factor/variable.
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So getting a Zero Wing pic vs. his online-fad pic will make a significant difference.
Other examples include pics so bad to the point of being unrecognizable (melting Snake), or pics that fans of that char has never seen before (Kerrigan).
But as long as the pics are decent, they won't make much difference in matches involving well known chars.
In today's match, however, both chars are recognizable, so the anomaly must have been caused by some other factor/variable.
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From: TheCruelAngel
| Posted: 8/15/2005 9:36:49 AM | Message Detail
I'll ask again: With Luigi doubling KOS-MOS, what does this say about
Squall, if anything? I'm assuming KOS-MOS suffered a small decrease
from 2004-2005, as there is no other explanation. <_<;
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Warden: Talk! What is SeeD all about!?
Squall: ...Flower.
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Warden: Talk! What is SeeD all about!?
Squall: ...Flower.
From: HaRRicH
| Posted: 8/15/2005 9:39:26 AM | Message Detail
It can't help but make Squall look better, though I really think this is so much more Luigi than anything else.
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From: yoblazer33
| Posted: 8/15/2005 9:40:14 AM | Message Detail
Fantastic performance by Luigi here, especially since I believe this
has more to do with him increasing than KOS-MOS decreasing. After
today, one thing is clear: if Tifa still destroys him, Sonic is a goner.
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From: sidharta
| Posted: 8/15/2005 9:40:40 AM | Message Detail
I'll ask again: With Luigi doubling KOS-MOS, what does this say
about Squall, if anything? I'm assuming KOS-MOS suffered a small
decrease from 2004-2005, as there is no other explanation. <_<;
We won't know until the end of this contest, there has been too many anomalies in this contest thanks to last year's massive SFF fest.
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We won't know until the end of this contest, there has been too many anomalies in this contest thanks to last year's massive SFF fest.
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From: I_Dont_Love_You
| Posted: 8/15/2005 9:46:57 AM | Message Detail
Do you think there's a chance Luigi will hit 70% before it's all over?
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From: RPGuy96
| Posted: 8/15/2005 9:50:58 AM | Message Detail
This is clearly all KOS-MOS' fault. Never mind the fact that she either increased last contest, or stayed constant for two years, if Link SFF'd Samus. Never mind the fact that using a static Luigi puts her 2.5% under Crash Bandicoot, whom she beat with 62%, in one of the top 10 biggest first round bracket upsets, with a mere 42% bracket backing. Never mind that we've never
had a non-fodder character be hurt by a new game (in fact, Dante was
right around KOS-MOS' level before DMC2). Never mind that Luigi is
doing a cool 10% better than Ryu did. Never mind each and every one of
my points I made in a five page essay examining the chain of events
that led Luigi to be underrated by the XS. All KOS-MOS dropping, here.
But yesterday? All Tifa, man. She's clearly Noble Nine material after one match, and will probably win the main bracket. It's impossible for Vyse to fall after two years of being constant. He's had nothing come out since then! No new game to hurt him! And, of course, it's utterly impossible for him to rank around Laharl, whom he beat with 60% and 67% of the brackets backing him. All Tifa.
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Sarcasm much?
But yesterday? All Tifa, man. She's clearly Noble Nine material after one match, and will probably win the main bracket. It's impossible for Vyse to fall after two years of being constant. He's had nothing come out since then! No new game to hurt him! And, of course, it's utterly impossible for him to rank around Laharl, whom he beat with 60% and 67% of the brackets backing him. All Tifa.
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Sarcasm much?
From: yoblazer33
| Posted: 8/15/2005 9:51:22 AM | Message Detail
Nope, 70% is asking for too much. I will be ecstatic if he finishes
above 68%, however. That would put him right between Mario and Crono in
the unadjusted 2004 X-Sts.
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Board 8: Where people treat each other right.
From: Brett with Atreyu
| Posted: 8/15/2005 9:52:26 AM | Message Detail
Tifa overperformed yesterday thanks to her pic. Nothing more.
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Magus screwed my bracket over. Yay!
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Magus screwed my bracket over. Yay!
From: sidharta
| Posted: 8/15/2005 9:53:45 AM | Message Detail
RPG, no need to be so bitter about it.
The second round will either vindicate you, or put you in your place.
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The second round will either vindicate you, or put you in your place.
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From: Haste2
| Posted: 8/15/2005 9:54:56 AM | Message Detail
I'm-a Luigi! I'm-a gonna win!
No, it's I'm-a Luigi! Number one!
HaRRicH: Yoshi will MURDER Laharl.
Heh, and now watch Yoshi get almost exactly the projected amount. Remember Mega Man vs. Tidus, and then the next day Zero beat Vercetti by almost exactly what the 2K3 stats suggested?
Ya know, I've got a wild theory: TJF seems to multiply a character's strength by 1.33 or around there (with some exceptions).
Tina vs. Gordon, for instance. Tina has a face picture against Aeris, so her extrapolated ranking is 14.13%. She beat Gordon Freeman, who's at around 15% on BL. Therefore, Tina's strength with TJF is close to 19%. 33% increase for her, there.
Today's match suggests that KOS-MOS gets about a 33% increase from TJF.
It seems fairly reasonable with Rikku...Take the TJF away from Rikku and she goes from 28.34% to 21.25%.
It doesn't work quite as well with Yuna...hm, but maybe people just hate her or don't find her as attractive.
As for Tifa...if you use her value based off of Vyse, that puts her at 43.80% on BL. Take away 25% of that, and Tifa's at 32.85%, about the level of Aeris.
Taking away TJF from 2K2/2K3 Lara Croft puts her at around Crash's level.
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"Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun! So...what is a party?"
"Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think."
No, it's I'm-a Luigi! Number one!
HaRRicH: Yoshi will MURDER Laharl.
Heh, and now watch Yoshi get almost exactly the projected amount. Remember Mega Man vs. Tidus, and then the next day Zero beat Vercetti by almost exactly what the 2K3 stats suggested?
Ya know, I've got a wild theory: TJF seems to multiply a character's strength by 1.33 or around there (with some exceptions).
Tina vs. Gordon, for instance. Tina has a face picture against Aeris, so her extrapolated ranking is 14.13%. She beat Gordon Freeman, who's at around 15% on BL. Therefore, Tina's strength with TJF is close to 19%. 33% increase for her, there.
Today's match suggests that KOS-MOS gets about a 33% increase from TJF.
It seems fairly reasonable with Rikku...Take the TJF away from Rikku and she goes from 28.34% to 21.25%.
It doesn't work quite as well with Yuna...hm, but maybe people just hate her or don't find her as attractive.
As for Tifa...if you use her value based off of Vyse, that puts her at 43.80% on BL. Take away 25% of that, and Tifa's at 32.85%, about the level of Aeris.
Taking away TJF from 2K2/2K3 Lara Croft puts her at around Crash's level.
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"Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun! So...what is a party?"
"Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think."
From: outback
| Posted: 8/15/2005 9:56:10 AM | Message Detail
Nope, 70% is asking for too much. I will be ecstatic if he finishes
above 68%, however. That would put him right between Mario and Crono in
the unadjusted 2004 X-Sts.
I would gladly kill some Squeenix execs to see Luigi beat Crono.
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From: sidharta
| Posted: 8/15/2005 9:58:00 AM | Message Detail
Haste, how many of those people you know IRL would vote based on TJF alone?
I'm sure there's plenty of them, but certainly not enough to make such a difference.
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I'm sure there's plenty of them, but certainly not enough to make such a difference.
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From: yoblazer33
| Posted: 8/15/2005 9:58:29 AM | Message Detail
Going by the adjusted X-Sts, Yoshi is projected to get just under 72%
on Laharl. I don't think he'll have any trouble surpassing that.
Oh, and sexy rant by RPGuy. <3
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Oh, and sexy rant by RPGuy. <3
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From: Mumei
| Posted: 8/15/2005 10:00:24 AM | Message Detail
RPG, no need to be so bitter about it.
What's wrong with being a bit sardonic? =)
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From: Tediz247
| Posted: 8/15/2005 10:03:32 AM | Message Detail
I never said it was all KOS-MOS, RPGuy. I do believe that Luigi did
have some sort of increase, but this is simply ridiculous if either one
of them is static. If it's a static KOS-MOS, Luigi shoots right past
Squall, getting damn close to Mario. I think the best explanation is
that pics do make a difference.
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That... was her final mission. And like a true soldier, she saw it through the end.
ZSB [aX]
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That... was her final mission. And like a true soldier, she saw it through the end.
ZSB [aX]
From: RPGuy96
| Posted: 8/15/2005 10:04:08 AM | Message Detail
I'm-a Luigi! I'm-a gonna win!
No, it's I'm-a Luigi! Number one!
I know, but I always liked Wario's quote better.
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"It shall be engraved upon your soul! Divine Assault: Nibelung Valesti!" ~ Lenneth Valkyrie
No, it's I'm-a Luigi! Number one!
I know, but I always liked Wario's quote better.
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From: Haste2
| Posted: 8/15/2005 10:07:54 AM | Message Detail
But, you gotta watch it when you combine two quotes! Wario and Luigi
are the two greatest Mario characters. Combine those two characters and
you've got the worst one. >.<
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"Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun! So...what is a party?"
"Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think."
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"Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun! So...what is a party?"
"Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think."
From: RPGuy96
| Posted: 8/15/2005 10:09:31 AM | Message Detail
I can't argue with that. I'll be more careful in the future.
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From: King Morgoth
| Posted: 8/15/2005 10:11:18 AM | Message Detail
KOS-MOS got 30.25% on Samus
http://www.sc2k5.com/gallery/albums/sc2k3/sum03b36.jpg
Now, there wasn't any more TJF back then than now. And frankly, I don't see how today's picture could affect her compared to the other one.
Samus ~ Luigi ?
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Now, there wasn't any more TJF back then than now. And frankly, I don't see how today's picture could affect her compared to the other one.
Samus ~ Luigi ?
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From: Master Moltar
| Posted: 8/15/2005 10:14:06 AM | Message Detail
Wario and Luigi are the two greatest Mario characters.
More like Yoshi and Bowser. >.>
And really, I think Luigi is just benefitting from the casuals going. "Mario's brother vs. some blue-haired chick, *votes Luigi". I mean, Luigi was definitely underrated because he faced a beefed up Squall in 2003, and Yoshi in 2004.
Summary: KOS-MOS is bombing because she's too cult, while Luigi benefits big because he is easily recognized. It shouldn't help him against Tifa though, because she's just more popular.
It's kinda like how Pac-Man does decent in these. He might not be liked too much, but stick him against someone not too popular and he'll do good.
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Luigi vs. KOS-MOS - Bracket: Luigi - Vote: Luigi (24/27)
More like Yoshi and Bowser. >.>
And really, I think Luigi is just benefitting from the casuals going. "Mario's brother vs. some blue-haired chick, *votes Luigi". I mean, Luigi was definitely underrated because he faced a beefed up Squall in 2003, and Yoshi in 2004.
Summary: KOS-MOS is bombing because she's too cult, while Luigi benefits big because he is easily recognized. It shouldn't help him against Tifa though, because she's just more popular.
It's kinda like how Pac-Man does decent in these. He might not be liked too much, but stick him against someone not too popular and he'll do good.
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Luigi vs. KOS-MOS - Bracket: Luigi - Vote: Luigi (24/27)
From: RPGuy96
| Posted: 8/15/2005 10:15:10 AM | Message Detail
15 minute updates!
10:00 | Luigi | 31194 | +1178 | 67.44% | KOS-MOS | 15062 | +528 | 32.56% | 46256 | Lead of 16132 | (Up 650)
09:45 | Luigi | 30016 | +1212 | 67.38% | KOS-MOS | 14534 | +530 | 32.62% | 44550 | Lead of 15482 | (Up 682)
09:30 | Luigi | 28804 | +1226 | 67.29% | KOS-MOS | 14004 | +540 | 32.71% | 42808 | Lead of 14800 | (Up 686)
09:15 | Luigi | 27578 | +1223 | 67.19% | KOS-MOS | 13464 | +547 | 32.81% | 41042 | Lead of 14114 | (Up 676)
09:00 | Luigi | 26355 | +1150 | 67.11% | KOS-MOS | 12917 | +520 | 32.89% | 39272 | Lead of 13438 | (Up 630)
08:45 | Luigi | 25205 | +1135 | 67.03% | KOS-MOS | 12397 | +549 | 32.97% | 37602 | Lead of 12808 | (Up 586)
08:30 | Luigi | 24070 | +1209 | 67.01% | KOS-MOS | 11848 | +539 | 32.99% | 35918 | Lead of 12222 | (Up 670)
08:15 | Luigi | 22861 | +1139 | 66.90% | KOS-MOS | 11309 | +506 | 33.10% | 34170 | Lead of 11552 | (Up 633)
08:00 | Luigi | 21722 | +1090 | 66.79% | KOS-MOS | 10803 | +499 | 33.21% | 32525 | Lead of 10919 | (Up 591)
07:45 | Luigi | 20632 | +1069 | 66.69% | KOS-MOS | 10304 | +483 | 33.31% | 30936 | Lead of 10328 | (Up 586)
07:30 | Luigi | 19563 | +1016 | 66.58% | KOS-MOS | 9821 | +508 | 33.42% | 29384 | Lead of 9742 | (Up 508)
07:15 | Luigi | 18547 | +985 | 66.57% | KOS-MOS | 9313 | +462 | 33.43% | 27860 | Lead of 9234 | (Up 523)
07:00 | Luigi | 17562 | +838 | 66.49% | KOS-MOS | 8851 | +395 | 33.51% | 26413 | Lead of 8711 | (Up 443)
06:45 | Luigi | 16724 | +938 | 66.42% | KOS-MOS | 8456 | +408 | 33.58% | 25180 | Lead of 8268 | (Up 530)
06:30 | Luigi | 15786 | +829 | 66.23% | KOS-MOS | 8048 | +394 | 33.77% | 23834 | Lead of 7738 | (Up 435)
06:15 | Luigi | 14957 | +800 | 66.15% | KOS-MOS | 7654 | +377 | 33.85% | 22611 | Lead of 7303 | (Up 423)
06:00 | Luigi | 14157 | +726 | 66.05% | KOS-MOS | 7277 | +322 | 33.95% | 21434 | Lead of 6880 | (Up 404)
05:45 | Luigi | 13431 | +738 | 65.88% | KOS-MOS | 6955 | +305 | 34.12% | 20386 | Lead of 6476 | (Up 433)
05:30 | Luigi | 12693 | +694 | 65.62% | KOS-MOS | 6650 | +324 | 34.38% | 19343 | Lead of 6043 | (Up 370)
05:15 | Luigi | 11999 | +683 | 65.48% | KOS-MOS | 6326 | +302 | 34.52% | 18325 | Lead of 5673 | (Up 381)
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10:00 | Luigi | 31194 | +1178 | 67.44% | KOS-MOS | 15062 | +528 | 32.56% | 46256 | Lead of 16132 | (Up 650)
09:45 | Luigi | 30016 | +1212 | 67.38% | KOS-MOS | 14534 | +530 | 32.62% | 44550 | Lead of 15482 | (Up 682)
09:30 | Luigi | 28804 | +1226 | 67.29% | KOS-MOS | 14004 | +540 | 32.71% | 42808 | Lead of 14800 | (Up 686)
09:15 | Luigi | 27578 | +1223 | 67.19% | KOS-MOS | 13464 | +547 | 32.81% | 41042 | Lead of 14114 | (Up 676)
09:00 | Luigi | 26355 | +1150 | 67.11% | KOS-MOS | 12917 | +520 | 32.89% | 39272 | Lead of 13438 | (Up 630)
08:45 | Luigi | 25205 | +1135 | 67.03% | KOS-MOS | 12397 | +549 | 32.97% | 37602 | Lead of 12808 | (Up 586)
08:30 | Luigi | 24070 | +1209 | 67.01% | KOS-MOS | 11848 | +539 | 32.99% | 35918 | Lead of 12222 | (Up 670)
08:15 | Luigi | 22861 | +1139 | 66.90% | KOS-MOS | 11309 | +506 | 33.10% | 34170 | Lead of 11552 | (Up 633)
08:00 | Luigi | 21722 | +1090 | 66.79% | KOS-MOS | 10803 | +499 | 33.21% | 32525 | Lead of 10919 | (Up 591)
07:45 | Luigi | 20632 | +1069 | 66.69% | KOS-MOS | 10304 | +483 | 33.31% | 30936 | Lead of 10328 | (Up 586)
07:30 | Luigi | 19563 | +1016 | 66.58% | KOS-MOS | 9821 | +508 | 33.42% | 29384 | Lead of 9742 | (Up 508)
07:15 | Luigi | 18547 | +985 | 66.57% | KOS-MOS | 9313 | +462 | 33.43% | 27860 | Lead of 9234 | (Up 523)
07:00 | Luigi | 17562 | +838 | 66.49% | KOS-MOS | 8851 | +395 | 33.51% | 26413 | Lead of 8711 | (Up 443)
06:45 | Luigi | 16724 | +938 | 66.42% | KOS-MOS | 8456 | +408 | 33.58% | 25180 | Lead of 8268 | (Up 530)
06:30 | Luigi | 15786 | +829 | 66.23% | KOS-MOS | 8048 | +394 | 33.77% | 23834 | Lead of 7738 | (Up 435)
06:15 | Luigi | 14957 | +800 | 66.15% | KOS-MOS | 7654 | +377 | 33.85% | 22611 | Lead of 7303 | (Up 423)
06:00 | Luigi | 14157 | +726 | 66.05% | KOS-MOS | 7277 | +322 | 33.95% | 21434 | Lead of 6880 | (Up 404)
05:45 | Luigi | 13431 | +738 | 65.88% | KOS-MOS | 6955 | +305 | 34.12% | 20386 | Lead of 6476 | (Up 433)
05:30 | Luigi | 12693 | +694 | 65.62% | KOS-MOS | 6650 | +324 | 34.38% | 19343 | Lead of 6043 | (Up 370)
05:15 | Luigi | 11999 | +683 | 65.48% | KOS-MOS | 6326 | +302 | 34.52% | 18325 | Lead of 5673 | (Up 381)
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From: RPGuy96
| Posted: 8/15/2005 10:15:14 AM | Message Detail
05:00 | Luigi | 11316 | +574 | 65.26% | KOS-MOS | 6024 | +264 | 34.74% | 17340 | Lead of 5292 | (Up 310)
04:45 | Luigi | 10742 | +546 | 65.10% | KOS-MOS | 5760 | +275 | 34.90% | 16502 | Lead of 4982 | (Up 271)
04:30 | Luigi | 10196 | +857 | 65.02% | KOS-MOS | 5485 | +447 | 34.98% | 15681 | Lead of 4711 | (Up 410)
04:15 | Luigi | 9339 | +640 | 64.96% | KOS-MOS | 5038 | +316 | 35.04% | 14377 | Lead of 4301 | (Up 324)
04:00 | Luigi | 8699 | +454 | 64.82% | KOS-MOS | 4722 | +258 | 35.18% | 13421 | Lead of 3977 | (Up 196)
03:45 | Luigi | 8245 | +438 | 64.88% | KOS-MOS | 4464 | +228 | 35.12% | 12709 | Lead of 3781 | (Up 210)
03:30 | Luigi | 7807 | +567 | 64.83% | KOS-MOS | 4236 | +290 | 35.17% | 12043 | Lead of 3571 | (Up 277)
03:15 | Luigi | 7240 | +405 | 64.72% | KOS-MOS | 3946 | +237 | 35.28% | 11186 | Lead of 3294 | (Up 168)
03:00 | Luigi | 6835 | +562 | 64.82% | KOS-MOS | 3709 | +311 | 35.18% | 10544 | Lead of 3126 | (Up 251)
02:45 | Luigi | 6273 | +560 | 64.86% | KOS-MOS | 3398 | +317 | 35.14% | 9671 | Lead of 2875 | (Up 243)
02:30 | Luigi | 5713 | +486 | 64.96% | KOS-MOS | 3081 | +256 | 35.04% | 8794 | Lead of 2632 | (Up 230)
02:15 | Luigi | 5227 | +484 | 64.92% | KOS-MOS | 2825 | +276 | 35.08% | 8052 | Lead of 2402 | (Up 208)
02:00 | Luigi | 4743 | +568 | 65.04% | KOS-MOS | 2549 | +283 | 34.96% | 7292 | Lead of 2194 | (Up 285)
01:45 | Luigi | 4175 | +570 | 64.82% | KOS-MOS | 2266 | +334 | 35.18% | 6441 | Lead of 1909 | (Up 236)
01:30 | Luigi | 3605 | +670 | 65.11% | KOS-MOS | 1932 | +351 | 34.89% | 5537 | Lead of 1673 | (Up 319)
01:15 | Luigi | 2935 | +780 | 64.99% | KOS-MOS | 1581 | +438 | 35.01% | 4516 | Lead of 1354 | (Up 342)
01:00 | Luigi | 2155 | +864 | 65.34% | KOS-MOS | 1143 | +462 | 34.66% | 3298 | Lead of 1012 | (Up 402)
00:45 | Luigi | 1291 | +801 | 65.47% | KOS-MOS | 681 | +423 | 34.53% | 1972 | Lead of 610 | (Up 378)
00:30 | Luigi | 490 | +272 | 65.51% | KOS-MOS | 258 | +144 | 34.49% | 748 | Lead of 232 | (Up 128)
00:15 | Luigi | 218 | +179 | 65.66% | KOS-MOS | 114 | +83 | 34.34% | 332 | Lead of 104 | (Up 96)
00:00 | Luigi | 39 | +39 | 55.71% | KOS-MOS | 31 | +31 | 44.29% | 70 | Lead of 8 | (Up 8)
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"It shall be engraved upon your soul! Divine Assault: Nibelung Valesti!" ~ Lenneth Valkyrie
04:45 | Luigi | 10742 | +546 | 65.10% | KOS-MOS | 5760 | +275 | 34.90% | 16502 | Lead of 4982 | (Up 271)
04:30 | Luigi | 10196 | +857 | 65.02% | KOS-MOS | 5485 | +447 | 34.98% | 15681 | Lead of 4711 | (Up 410)
04:15 | Luigi | 9339 | +640 | 64.96% | KOS-MOS | 5038 | +316 | 35.04% | 14377 | Lead of 4301 | (Up 324)
04:00 | Luigi | 8699 | +454 | 64.82% | KOS-MOS | 4722 | +258 | 35.18% | 13421 | Lead of 3977 | (Up 196)
03:45 | Luigi | 8245 | +438 | 64.88% | KOS-MOS | 4464 | +228 | 35.12% | 12709 | Lead of 3781 | (Up 210)
03:30 | Luigi | 7807 | +567 | 64.83% | KOS-MOS | 4236 | +290 | 35.17% | 12043 | Lead of 3571 | (Up 277)
03:15 | Luigi | 7240 | +405 | 64.72% | KOS-MOS | 3946 | +237 | 35.28% | 11186 | Lead of 3294 | (Up 168)
03:00 | Luigi | 6835 | +562 | 64.82% | KOS-MOS | 3709 | +311 | 35.18% | 10544 | Lead of 3126 | (Up 251)
02:45 | Luigi | 6273 | +560 | 64.86% | KOS-MOS | 3398 | +317 | 35.14% | 9671 | Lead of 2875 | (Up 243)
02:30 | Luigi | 5713 | +486 | 64.96% | KOS-MOS | 3081 | +256 | 35.04% | 8794 | Lead of 2632 | (Up 230)
02:15 | Luigi | 5227 | +484 | 64.92% | KOS-MOS | 2825 | +276 | 35.08% | 8052 | Lead of 2402 | (Up 208)
02:00 | Luigi | 4743 | +568 | 65.04% | KOS-MOS | 2549 | +283 | 34.96% | 7292 | Lead of 2194 | (Up 285)
01:45 | Luigi | 4175 | +570 | 64.82% | KOS-MOS | 2266 | +334 | 35.18% | 6441 | Lead of 1909 | (Up 236)
01:30 | Luigi | 3605 | +670 | 65.11% | KOS-MOS | 1932 | +351 | 34.89% | 5537 | Lead of 1673 | (Up 319)
01:15 | Luigi | 2935 | +780 | 64.99% | KOS-MOS | 1581 | +438 | 35.01% | 4516 | Lead of 1354 | (Up 342)
01:00 | Luigi | 2155 | +864 | 65.34% | KOS-MOS | 1143 | +462 | 34.66% | 3298 | Lead of 1012 | (Up 402)
00:45 | Luigi | 1291 | +801 | 65.47% | KOS-MOS | 681 | +423 | 34.53% | 1972 | Lead of 610 | (Up 378)
00:30 | Luigi | 490 | +272 | 65.51% | KOS-MOS | 258 | +144 | 34.49% | 748 | Lead of 232 | (Up 128)
00:15 | Luigi | 218 | +179 | 65.66% | KOS-MOS | 114 | +83 | 34.34% | 332 | Lead of 104 | (Up 96)
00:00 | Luigi | 39 | +39 | 55.71% | KOS-MOS | 31 | +31 | 44.29% | 70 | Lead of 8 | (Up 8)
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"It shall be engraved upon your soul! Divine Assault: Nibelung Valesti!" ~ Lenneth Valkyrie
From: Haste2
| Posted: 8/15/2005 10:15:37 AM | Message Detail
Regardless, Jill 2K3 = Luigi 2K3. Keep that in mind.
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"Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think."
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"Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun! So...what is a party?"
"Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think."
From: AmazingKirby
| Posted: 8/15/2005 10:15:40 AM | Message Detail
It seems fairly reasonable with Rikku...Take the TJF away from Rikku and she goes from 28.34% to 21.25%.
Lies. Everyone loves Rikku.
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Lies. Everyone loves Rikku.
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From: Zylo the wolf
| Posted: 8/15/2005 10:16:00 AM | Message Detail
Luigi always kills his first round oppnents. He made Kefka look even weaker than he is when Luigi fought Pacman.
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From: RPGuy96
| Posted: 8/15/2005 10:16:13 AM | Message Detail
And really, I think Luigi is just benefitting from the casuals
going. "Mario's brother vs. some blue-haired chick, *votes Luigi". I
mean, Luigi was definitely underrated because he faced a beefed up
Squall in 2003, and Yoshi in 2004.
Summary: KOS-MOS is bombing because she's too cult, while Luigi benefits big because he is easily recognized. It shouldn't help him against Tifa though, because she's just more popular.
Why didn't that help Ryu, then? He's as well known as Luigi is. And KOS beat Crash...he's not exactly cult, either.
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"It shall be engraved upon your soul! Divine Assault: Nibelung Valesti!" ~ Lenneth Valkyrie
Summary: KOS-MOS is bombing because she's too cult, while Luigi benefits big because he is easily recognized. It shouldn't help him against Tifa though, because she's just more popular.
Why didn't that help Ryu, then? He's as well known as Luigi is. And KOS beat Crash...he's not exactly cult, either.
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From: AmazingKirby
| Posted: 8/15/2005 10:17:28 AM | Message Detail
Ryu isn't as well known as Luigi at all....
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From: Gooper Blooper
| Posted: 8/15/2005 10:18:15 AM | Message Detail
RPGuy wins the topic.
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Chun-Li > Bowser book it - lol_internet
Vote for Kirby in SC2K5!
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Chun-Li > Bowser book it - lol_internet
Vote for Kirby in SC2K5!
From: UltimaterializerX
| Posted: 8/15/2005 10:19:43 AM | Message Detail
And really, I think Luigi is just benefitting from the casuals going. "Mario's brother...
If that were the case, he'd have beaten Squall in 2003 en route to giving Samus a tough match.
~*ST*~
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"If my fate is to be destroyed... I must simply laugh!" -Magus
If that were the case, he'd have beaten Squall in 2003 en route to giving Samus a tough match.
~*ST*~
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"If my fate is to be destroyed... I must simply laugh!" -Magus
From: Master Moltar
| Posted: 8/15/2005 10:20:33 AM | Message Detail
Why didn't that help Ryu, then? He's as well known as Luigi is. And KOS beat Crash...he's not exactly cult, either.
Ryu is NOT as recognizable and well-known as Luigi, Mario's brother. I'm not saying that he's overperforming all because of it, but it is helping him quite a bit here.
Crash is just weak and unloved here. You can be popular, but that doesn't mean you're going to be strong or liked.
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Luigi vs. KOS-MOS - Bracket: Luigi - Vote: Luigi (24/27)
Ryu is NOT as recognizable and well-known as Luigi, Mario's brother. I'm not saying that he's overperforming all because of it, but it is helping him quite a bit here.
Crash is just weak and unloved here. You can be popular, but that doesn't mean you're going to be strong or liked.
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Luigi vs. KOS-MOS - Bracket: Luigi - Vote: Luigi (24/27)
From: Adept_Of_Aiur
| Posted: 8/15/2005 10:22:41 AM | Message Detail
Ryu is NOT as recognizable and well-known as Luigi, Mario's brother.
???
I seriously doubt you could find more than 1,000 people who visit GameFAQs and don't know who Ryu is. Well, I mean, I know you aren't going to, but if you tried.
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MasterMage119
???
I seriously doubt you could find more than 1,000 people who visit GameFAQs and don't know who Ryu is. Well, I mean, I know you aren't going to, but if you tried.
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From: outback
| Posted: 8/15/2005 10:23:15 AM | Message Detail
Luigi vs. Squall this year. Who wins?
Again, I'd gladly kill a squeenix exec for Luigi to win this one, and I think he'd make it close this year. Before I say "KHF is wearing off" I want to ask if Tifa and Vincent were in KH. If they're not, I say KHF is wearing off, and Luigi might win.
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Again, I'd gladly kill a squeenix exec for Luigi to win this one, and I think he'd make it close this year. Before I say "KHF is wearing off" I want to ask if Tifa and Vincent were in KH. If they're not, I say KHF is wearing off, and Luigi might win.
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From: AmazingKirby
| Posted: 8/15/2005 10:23:21 AM | Message Detail
I bet I could find over 10,000.
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From: The Raven 2
| Posted: 8/15/2005 10:26:56 AM | Message Detail
Since Chaos Divsion's coming to a close, here are my thoughts...
Most Impressive: Tifa Lockheart
Cloud beat Vyse with 81.41% of the vote last year. Tifa beat Vyse this year with 78.07% of the vote, practically almost equal to the FF7 lead character. The question is no longer can she hang against Luigi, the question NOW is can she hang with Sonic?
Honorable Mention: Luigi
Despite his fate in the second round, Luigi put a hurtin' on KOS MOS in today's match, doubling her votes. Knowing that this is the same KOS MOS that got around 42% on Ryu, this means something. But, the green plumber two years ago got thumped by Squall in round 2, so his fate's been sealed with a loss to Tifa.
Biggest Letdown: KOS MOS
After getting 42% on Ryu in round 1 last year, you'd think she'd be able to hang with Luigi (I sure did...).
Honorable Mentions: BOTH Kratos Aurion and Diablo
Kratos A. proved to be equal to the likes Ridley and Kefka and weaker than M. Bison. Diablo doesn't gain much from a 56% victory against a ToS character, since ToS characters aren't that strong in these contests. Just look at Lloyd/Wesker for further proof. Diablo got around 35% on Ganondorf in Spring, and Sonic's stronger than he is. Look for the blue blur to get the same, if not better against the devil himself.
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Most Impressive: Tifa Lockheart
Cloud beat Vyse with 81.41% of the vote last year. Tifa beat Vyse this year with 78.07% of the vote, practically almost equal to the FF7 lead character. The question is no longer can she hang against Luigi, the question NOW is can she hang with Sonic?
Honorable Mention: Luigi
Despite his fate in the second round, Luigi put a hurtin' on KOS MOS in today's match, doubling her votes. Knowing that this is the same KOS MOS that got around 42% on Ryu, this means something. But, the green plumber two years ago got thumped by Squall in round 2, so his fate's been sealed with a loss to Tifa.
Biggest Letdown: KOS MOS
After getting 42% on Ryu in round 1 last year, you'd think she'd be able to hang with Luigi (I sure did...).
Honorable Mentions: BOTH Kratos Aurion and Diablo
Kratos A. proved to be equal to the likes Ridley and Kefka and weaker than M. Bison. Diablo doesn't gain much from a 56% victory against a ToS character, since ToS characters aren't that strong in these contests. Just look at Lloyd/Wesker for further proof. Diablo got around 35% on Ganondorf in Spring, and Sonic's stronger than he is. Look for the blue blur to get the same, if not better against the devil himself.
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From: Adept_Of_Aiur
| Posted: 8/15/2005 10:27:49 AM | Message Detail
I bet I could find over 10,000.
I don't think I've ever met a male around my age who doesn't know what Street Fighter is... How you could claim to find 10,000 people who come to a site dedicated to games that don't know who Ryu is, I don't know.
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MasterMage119
I don't think I've ever met a male around my age who doesn't know what Street Fighter is... How you could claim to find 10,000 people who come to a site dedicated to games that don't know who Ryu is, I don't know.
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"All pretty girls are a trap, a pretty trap, and men expect them to be."
MasterMage119