Why can't the Noble Nine be a club where if you beat them, you join them. Grouping Sonic and Snake in with the other characters just isn't right.

Besides, Elite Eleven doesn't sound all to bad. >.>
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Sonic > Tifa.

Maybe when I get back to Wisconsin I'll attempt playing through EB again. I got to Happy Happy (I think) before I got sidetracked. When I tried to pick it up again, my file was erased. I loved the story, and some aspects of the battles were cool, but the battle system had it's boring points.
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No, just under Zero. Ganon and Magus were adjusted without fair reason. Magus vs. Knux proves it.
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From: Draco1214 | Posted: 8/14/2005 11:42:48 PM | #049
Ignoring the fact you're just listing the noble nine, where did Snake ever go?

Below Zero, Ganondorf, and Magus in 2k4.

Yes, and we're all aware of how accurate those stats turned out to be. And since when did the noble nine change definition from the nine characters that you listed initially to whoever fills the top nine places in the version of extrapolated stats that we're using this week?
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Snake/Zelda, I think, will play out alot like Ocelot/Wily. A match that is hyped up due to each competitor's first round matches, but will sadly end up being a match where the winner isn't in question.
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Even though Zero did better on Mega Man than Snake did, am I the only one that would hesitate to actually put him over Snake if they went head-to-head?
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Snake/Zelda, I think, will play out alot like Ocelot/Wily. A match that is hyped up due to each competitor's first round matches, but will sadly end up being a match where the winner isn't in question.

Agreed. It won't be close. Zelda will win, easily.
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misewell...

Tier1
Link
Cloud

1.5
Sephiroth

2
Samus
Crono
Mario
Vincent

2.5
Mega Man
Tifa
Sonic

3
Zero
Bowser
Snake
Zelda
Ryu
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Agreed. It won't be close. Snake will win, easily.

Fixed.
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Summer 2005 Contest - 24/27 points
Current Match Prediction: Luigi vs. KOS-MOS

I should have emphasized some changes to the 2k4 standings (Crono > Samus and Mega Man > Sonic).
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Summer 2005 Contest - 24/27 points
Current Match Prediction: Luigi vs. KOS-MOS

Even though Zero did better on Mega Man than Snake did, am I the only one that would hesitate to actually put him over Snake if they went head-to-head?

I'd take Zero over Snake without any hesitation whatsoever...
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Snake/Zelda, I think, will play out alot like Ocelot/Wily. A match that is hyped up due to each competitor's first round matches, but will sadly end up being a match where the winner isn't in question.

Solid Snake won't beat Zelda by 55%

Are you aware of her Performance? Seriously, if Vivi stayed constant, even Snake's adjusted value (Which I don't trust) loses to about 49%, and with Zelda's day vote, I think she can hold off that.

Like I said, if Snake wins, he'll just get real lucky.
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Why does everyone want to take Vivi's 2004 number so seriously? I mean, it's based off Sephiroth of all people.
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Tifa vs. Vyse - Bracket: Tifa - Vote: Tifa (23/26)

Tier1
Link
Cloud

1.5
Sephiroth

2
Samus
Crono
Tifa
Mario

2.5
Sonic
Vincent
Mega Man

3
Zero
Solid Snake
Zelda
Bowser
Ryu
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Are you aware of her Performance? Seriously, if Vivi stayed constant, even Snake's adjusted value (Which I don't trust) loses to about 49%, and with Zelda's day vote, I think she can hold off that.

I don't think Vivi remained constant.

And the results of Vivi/Zelda put Zelda over Ganondorf. I don't buy that, at least, not yet.
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Current Match Prediction: Luigi vs. KOS-MOS

You don't buy that the title character is stronger than the main villain?
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No, it doesn't put her over Ganondorf, judging by Donkey Kong's performance on Fisher, he didn't suffer all that much SFF, so going by Vivi's actual regular value, still puts Zelda over both Adjusted and unadjusted Snakes, so she's not above Ganondorf afterall, but she's pretty close, and personally, I wish I could change my bracket winner of Gear to Zelda right about now.
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From: Dranze | Posted: 8/14/2005 3:56:13 PM | Message Detail
No, it doesn't put her over Ganondorf, judging by Donkey Kong's performance on Fisher, he didn't suffer all that much SFF, so going by Vivi's actual regular value, still puts Zelda over both Adjusted and unadjusted Snakes, so she's not above Ganondorf afterall, but she's pretty close, and personally, I wish I could change my bracket winner of Gear to Zelda right about now.

Hmmm.....interesting...

I hope Snake will pull out a win. I think MGS3 will help him out.
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Current Match Prediction: Luigi vs. KOS-MOS

That's really the only thing Snake has to hope for.
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I wish I could change my bracket winner of Gear to Zelda right about now.

You'd take Zelda over Bowser?
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I think Zelda will be close, but, Snake should just take win.
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I said the to the winner of the whole Gear Division, not the winner of the Dream division, which we aren't even sure about.
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I'd take Zelda over Bowser, I think, in a very close match. It could EASILY go either way though.
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I hope CjayC realizes that Snake is a giant target in this contest and doesn't give him Solid ****.
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Current Match Prediction: Luigi vs. KOS-MOS

I think Bowser is ranked higher than Zelda right about now and I also think he'll get the SFF end of the stick for some reason.
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From: ChichiriMuyo | Posted: 8/14/2005 11:49:30 PM | #059
misewell...

Tier1
Link
Cloud

1.5
Sephiroth

2
Samus
Crono
Mario
Vincent

2.5
Mega Man
Tifa
Sonic

3
Zero
Bowser
Snake
Zelda
Ryu

Now that is more like it, tiers, which is exactly how I've been basing my picks and exactly how I interpret the stats. But by including Vincent in the list, you'd probably use the same logic to put Mr. Driller in a higher tier than Squall after a few matches of 2002.

But wait, Squall is clearly stronger than Mr. Driller! Yes, he probably is. But back then, we knew NOTHING about the strength of ANYBODY until they'd faced someone who we knew the strength of. If Vincent makes a mockery of Dante, then you can come back and make outlandish Vincent>Mega Man, Vincent>Sonic, Vincent>God predictions, because right now we know diddly squat about him. Kerrigan could be stronger than Link or weaker than Tanner until proven otherwise.

And I'll ignore the fact that I'd back anyone from tier 2 or 2.5 against Vincent.
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Since when was the Dream Division in doubt? I mean, I have Tidus, but that's my biggest longshot in my whole bracket.
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I'd go with Bowser over Zelda. I'm not too sure why. I'd guess Nintendo fans prefer Bowser more than Zelda, allowing Bowser to SSF Zelda to win.
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I have Ryu taking Dream.
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Current Match Prediction: Luigi vs. KOS-MOS

I have Rikku. Looks like that plan failed. >_>;;
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Seeing the SFF matches that are Ganondorf VS Link and Mario Vs Bowser, Bowser has more non-Mario fans. I think Link would beat Zelda more than he beat Ganondorf. I hope they both basically leech, giving Bowser the edge over both of them.
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I'd take Bowser over Zelda. Bowser actually has a fanbase and that Zelda and Ganondorf both leech.
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Summer 2005 Contest - 24/27 points
Current Match Prediction: Luigi vs. KOS-MOS

Like being a leech to the hero of one series automatically means they're gonna fall apart against the villain of another series. Besides, if I were to guess, I would think that Zelda would hold up better against Lin kthan Ganon did...note that I'm not saying Zelda > Ganon here.
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You know, I think Link v. Zelda and Samus v. Metroid would confuse enough people to change the percentages...
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How is Zelda leeching from Link a sign that she would lose to Bowser? I seriously don't get where you people are coming from with this.

I think Ganon will always be stronger than Bowser and Zelda indirectly, but his complete collapse against Link would lead me to take both over him in a match. I'd probably take Bowser over Zelda out of pure bias.

On another note, Tifa seems to be on her way to once again erecting a 78% lead. She's risen with the last 3 updates.

>_>
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"If Vincent makes a mockery of Dante, then you can come back and make outlandish Vincent>Mega Man, Vincent>Sonic, Vincent>God predictions"

It's just a prediction, so there's no need to have evidence. If I'm wrong it's not like I put my reputation on the line, it's just a guess... and has a lot of hopefulness behind it... not the basis of a bet for my account.

Oh, and no sort of logic would eve have Mr. Driller over Squall.
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On another note, Tifa seems to be on her way to once again erecting a 78% lead.

Heh. Dirty girl.
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Well, I can't see people hardcore enough to like Zelda more than Bowser even if she does leech enough to be slightly stronger. But she leeches partially off the same fanbase. I can see Bowser taking Zelda, Ganondorf is another thing.
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78% isn't the only thing she's erecting, and what I have in mind is already at 100%...

...okay, I'll stop.
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Zelda > Ganondorf =-__-=

Zelda got 60% on Vivi

Ganon would be projected to get 56-57%

=/.

It just depends who would get the SFF from __-

Zelda > Bowser > Ganon imo.
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Summer 2005 Contest Score : 25/26
Rank : 20/33793 Today: Tifa Tomorrow : Luigi

Tier 1

Cloud
Link

Tier 1.5

Sephiroth

Tier 2

Tifa(At this rate..)
Samus
Crono

Tier 2.5

Mario
Megaman
Vincent(Can vary from 2->4)

Tier 3

Ganondorf
Sonic
Solid Snake
Zelda/Bowser/Ryu

Tier 4

Zero
Frog
Sora
Squall
Master Chief
Knuckles

imo =/.
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Summer 2005 Contest Score : 25/26
Rank : 20/33793 Today: Tifa Tomorrow : Luigi

err put Sonic over Ganon into Tier 3 __-.
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Summer 2005 Contest Score : 25/26
Rank : 20/33793 Today: Tifa Tomorrow : Luigi

I still doubt Frog is stronger than Magus. He's going to bomb against Samus.

Frog will be exposed by Samus in Round 2.
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Summer 2005 Contest - 24/27 points
Current Match Prediction: Luigi vs. KOS-MOS

Tifa's got a long way to climb if she wants to match Vincent's %s...such a long way to go indeed...
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Yeah, but this performance by Tifa is much more impressive than Vincent's performance. Kerrigan could very well be the worst kind of fodder, but at least we have some idea of Vyse's strength.
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Tifa's not gonna match Vincent's percentage nor vote-total...but she'll be gettin' close to his percentage. The vote-totals for this one is just lookin' too low right now to let her have a shot at beating his vote-total. I think Vyse is stronger than Kerrigan though, so I'm alright with this.
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