Exactly. Not even year-to-year variation can account for that. Oh, and Tina's ginormous assets weren't even showing in the match pic to boot.

Do YOU think Tifa can break 80% on Tina? Well, as soon as the men are done fapping to the match pic, anyway.
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"You can't have gone over a kilometer up. 1500 meters, tops." -Samus Aran
"I'll express my love to you slowly, later." -Setzer Gabbiani

Well at the very least, this match has convinced me to play through FF7 to see what the big deal is. Last time I played it was years ago, and I didn't even bother getting past the first disc because the story got relatively boring. Maybe I'll like it more now. Either that or I'll be equally confused at why people consider it the greatest game ever.

And with that, I'm off.
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Please sign this petition for a history board:
http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=7&topic=21995996

do people still think aeris=tifa at this point?
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*pacing back in forth waiting for: advance wars ds, twilight princess, ffxii, kingdom hearts 2, castlevania dos*

Somehow, there still seem to be some. I'm astounded.
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"You can't have gone over a kilometer up. 1500 meters, tops." -Samus Aran
"I'll express my love to you slowly, later." -Setzer Gabbiani

do people still think aeris=tifa at this point?

No, it's obvious that she's a good deal stronger, I just don't think she'll beat crono, and might even fall at the blue bomber. Well I'm actually gone now. I need to see if there's a reason for FF7 being so well liked, or if it's just as overrated as I've always thought after playing it the first time.
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Please sign this petition for a history board:
http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=7&topic=21995996

This match alone should prove that Tifa is at least significantly higher than Aeris.
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"I dont know what I am talking about? I know more about gaming than 90 percent of the users on the internet." -xmagxus

Plz help me ruin smurf's contest.

http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=22870273

On topic, Link > CATS.
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All user contests are wrong. All except mine, that is.
http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=22809755

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Wow, 78%.
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Summer 2005 Contest - 23/26 points
Current Match Prediction: Tifa Lockheart vs. Vyse

So, Ulti, you beat Earthbound.
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Summer 2005 Contest - 23/26 points
Current Match Prediction: Tifa Lockheart vs. Vyse

YOU CANNOT GRASP THE TRUE FORM OF GIYGAS' ATTACK!

And I'm in the final fight as we speak. What a scary MF this dude is.

~*ST*~
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Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest
"If my fate is to be destroyed... I must simply laugh!" -Magus

So I woke up hoping to see her under 75%, well she's not.
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I've been Pwned by KoaC. He really is the king of all cosmos.

Haha, nice. I'm hoping for Tifa to beat Sonic, Mega Man, and Crono before losing to Samus.

As for Tifa/Sonic, the only argument that people seem to be able to put forward in Sonic's favor is "WHOAMG HE CNA B RECOGNIZD TJFA CANT". Remember, people, this is FFVII we're talking about. Anyone who has played the first hour or so of FFVII knows who Tifa is and has already seen her primary appeal.
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That... was her final mission. And like a true soldier, she saw it through the end.
ZSB [aX]

giygas was an awesome boss battle.
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*pacing back in forth waiting for: advance wars ds, twilight princess, ffxii, kingdom hearts 2, castlevania dos*

Am I the only one that doesn't find Tifa's match pic attractive?
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I've been Pwned by KoaC. He really is the king of all cosmos.

No, I think it's pretty ugly. FF7 art in general isn't so good, IMO. I like the in-game stuff.

~*ST*~
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Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest
"If my fate is to be destroyed... I must simply laugh!" -Magus

So Tifa's only doing about 3% worse than Cloud did on Vyse. It looks like she can win the main bracket.
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Summer 2005 Contest - 23/26 points
Current Match Prediction: Tifa Lockheart vs. Vyse

Wha? You like the low-poly in-game models better than the official art?
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"Thank you, Mario. But our princess is in another castle."
-Toad in Super Mario Bros.

While I don't think standard year-to-year variation can account for *much*, I don't think the jump from 2k2 to 2k3 is exactly 'standard' variation, especially when compared to the early rounds of 2k2 (going off this same idea, Tina beating Gordon handily). It's a lot, but we really don't have that much to go off of in 2k3 for Aeris comparatively. She SFF's Sora to hell and back, blows out MC (who we still don't have the greatest of beads on thanks to Frog), and then scores 46% on a supposedly dropped Sonic. The fact that just one of these matches going screwy can mess up the stats considerably, ESPECIALLY in later rounds, can provide a lot of surprise when we get hit with unexpected results.
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I'm about to get sigged by Karma Hunter, and all I'll get is this lousy T-shirt.--Clockwork Dragon

Damn! Tifa's put up numbers I didn't even expect her to get! 75% was what I was hoping for, but she completely cleared that.

Tifa > Sonic!

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Cloud Strife: What’s going to happen to the Planet?
Sephiroth: That… will be for you to decide.

Tifa Lockheart 77.88% 28390
Vyse 22.12% 8065
TOTAL VOTES 36455

OH. MY. GAWD.

Tifa is a beast! I mean, I see Vyse is starting to gain some ground with the day vote, but still....DAYUM. GG Luigi, and Sonic is in for the fight of his life.
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Tifa vs. Vyse - Bracket: Tifa - Vote: Tifa (23/26)

Well, today's is still better than Sephin Park, at any rate.

And I'm not saying Tifa will win the main bracket, or even get to the finals. But today's result favors her a whole lot over Sonic and the everlasting question mark that is Megaman.
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"You can't have gone over a kilometer up. 1500 meters, tops." -Samus Aran
"I'll express my love to you slowly, later." -Setzer Gabbiani

Oh God, if Tifa beats Sonic the board's going to be in hysterics. So much fanboy tears, I'm going to ****ing love it.
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Round 1 of the Greatest User Contest Ever Established:
http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=22870630

the tifa sonic match will be a day of i told you so's and omg the stats are _______ no matter what happens.
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*pacing back in forth waiting for: advance wars ds, twilight princess, ffxii, kingdom hearts 2, castlevania dos*

At least we'll be ready for it.

And although I like Sonic a lot, I won't shed a tear. Sonic's fandom is among the most annoying in all of gaming. It combines the overblown passion of FF7 and the in-your-face aggressivity of Earthbound.
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"You can't have gone over a kilometer up. 1500 meters, tops." -Samus Aran
"I'll express my love to you slowly, later." -Setzer Gabbiani

Just checked up on it and Tifa has 77.86% right now. Samus is projected to beat Vyse with 77.31%. How crazy, yet awesome, would it be if Tifa won the contest? Heh.

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Cloud Strife: What’s going to happen to the Planet?
Sephiroth: That… will be for you to decide.

I like Tifa and all, but it will be a sad day if she beats Sonic...and if she beats Sonic, she's probably gonna beat Mega Man too, which will make for two very sad days.
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Hillary Clinton: We need to treat violent video games the way we treat tobacco or alcohol.
Lewis Black: Namely as valued contributors to our re-election fund.

As said before, that would be a death knell to these contests. We could literally have a ranking that goes like this:

1. Cloud
2. Link
3. Sephy
4. Tifa
5. Vincent

Interchange Link/Sephy and Tifa/Vincent as appropriate.
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I'm about to get sigged by Karma Hunter, and all I'll get is this lousy T-shirt.--Clockwork Dragon

Not necessarily. We first have to see how Megaman fares against Conker.

I'll take the opportunity to yet again shill my chart to those who just came in here:

http://www.freewebs.com/slowflake/tifachart.txt
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"You can't have gone over a kilometer up. 1500 meters, tops." -Samus Aran
"I'll express my love to you slowly, later." -Setzer Gabbiani

Interchange Link/Sephy and Tifa/Vincent as appropriate.

How 'bout Cloud/Link?
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"You can't have gone over a kilometer up. 1500 meters, tops." -Samus Aran
"I'll express my love to you slowly, later." -Setzer Gabbiani

How 'bout Cloud/Link?

If Vincent/Tifa takes the main bracket, I don't see Cloud falling to Link. But that's an obvious possibility as well.
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I'm about to get sigged by Karma Hunter, and all I'll get is this lousy T-shirt.--Clockwork Dragon

I find it hilarious that the top character could be Link, well the rest of the top 5 are FF7 characters.

Uh, there's no chance in hell Seph is stronger than Link... interchange Link/Cloud. Plus Vincent's going down to Dante. ^.~


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Cheer up Emo kids.

I didn't think Vincent and Tifa would survive all the way to AC's release date, but if they do it's very possible that the top 5 will be 80% FF7.
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"You can't have gone over a kilometer up. 1500 meters, tops." -Samus Aran
"I'll express my love to you slowly, later." -Setzer Gabbiani

Imagine, depending on how big Twilight Princess is...

1. Link
2. Cloud
3. Sephiroth
4. Tifa
5. Vincent
6. Ganondorf
7. Zelda
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That... was her final mission. And like a true soldier, she saw it through the end.
ZSB [aX]

Uh, there's no chance in hell Seph is stronger than Link... interchange Link/Cloud.

Link and Sephy 2k3 are in a statistical dead heat.
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I'm about to get sigged by Karma Hunter, and all I'll get is this lousy T-shirt.--Clockwork Dragon

Link and Sephy 2k3 are in a statistical dead heat.

But we're in the year 2005, not 2003.

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Cloud Strife: What’s going to happen to the Planet?
Sephiroth: That… will be for you to decide.

But Link 2003 is dead and buried.
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"You can't have gone over a kilometer up. 1500 meters, tops." -Samus Aran
"I'll express my love to you slowly, later." -Setzer Gabbiani

I also don't understand why we have to think it had to be Link rising from 2k3 in 2k4, and not everyone else falling. C'mon, I've already made it obvious that I'm behind the theory that we're going to see characters around their 2k3 levels this year. What makes you think this would be any different?
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I'm about to get sigged by Karma Hunter, and all I'll get is this lousy T-shirt.--Clockwork Dragon

Because before the 2004 contest Twilight Princess was announced. If you don't think that boosted him you're kidding yourself.

Last year we were talking about characters returning to their 2002 level. Most evidence points to that being dead wrong.
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"You can't have gone over a kilometer up. 1500 meters, tops." -Samus Aran
"I'll express my love to you slowly, later." -Setzer Gabbiani

Games being *announced* boosting a character, of all things, really never made much sense to me in the first place. MGS4 was announced recently, too, do you expect Snake to boost from that?

And even if that *did* boost Link, don't you think we're far enough away from that announcement to see him fall back to base levels again?
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I'm about to get sigged by Karma Hunter, and all I'll get is this lousy T-shirt.--Clockwork Dragon

Sephiroth seems to have made it clear he is NOT on par with Link in 2004. What in the world makes you think he's going to boost up enough to match him now. Link has already increased -- the idea that everyone decreased is just foolish -- so he would have to get back to that 2003 value and then some to match Link.

The only reason I can even see him increasing from the previous year is because of Advent Children. But I'm not expecting something like that to happen.

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Cloud Strife: What’s going to happen to the Planet?
Sephiroth: That… will be for you to decide.

Despite popular belief, Link did have other reasons besides Twilight Princess to increase.

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Cloud Strife: What’s going to happen to the Planet?
Sephiroth: That… will be for you to decide.

Yeah, Link stayed the same, and 63 other characters decreased. That sure is a lot more plausible.

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~This sig was pimped by Icon's sig~
Cheer up Emo kids.

Last year we were talking about characters returning to their 2002 level. Most evidence points to that being dead wrong.

True, but not only did I not believe that, but one being false does not inherently mean that the other possibility is false as well. I can understand why many people think it's far-fetched, but that's just what I believe.

Oh, and if anything, FF7 shouldn't just boost from AC, but from the plethora of spinoffs announced as well, not to mention the PS3 tech demo and other goodies. That is, if we're supposed to buy Link rose from the TP announcement.
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I'm about to get sigged by Karma Hunter, and all I'll get is this lousy T-shirt.--Clockwork Dragon

MGS4 is an entirely different ballgame from TP. Everyone bashed Wind Wakers cel shaded look and said Zelda needed to be realistic. Then Nintendo announced the amazing looking TP at E3 and it became the most wanted game period. Did you even see message boards the day TP was announced? It was insane.

Am I the only one who hopes Nintendo pulls another fast one, and TP is actually just puppets on screen?

>_>

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~This sig was pimped by Icon's sig~
Cheer up Emo kids.

Yeah, Link stayed the same, and 63 other characters decreased. That sure is a lot more plausible.

Only Link's main competition really needed to decrease, and we saw a LOT of increasing/decreasing across the board. Mega Man's entire division looks to be completely overrated at this point, Sonic apparently bounced back to 2k2, all sorts of things.
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I'm about to get sigged by Karma Hunter, and all I'll get is this lousy T-shirt.--Clockwork Dragon

Oh, and if anything, FF7 shouldn't just boost from AC, but from the plethora of spinoffs announced as well, not to mention the PS3 tech demo and other goodies. That is, if we're supposed to buy Link rose from the TP announcement.

The many spin-offs of Final Fantasy VII don't even begin to compare to Twilight Princess. I find it obvious that TP was not the sole contributor to that increase, but those that believe it was aren't completely out there. The other Final Fantasy VII titles that have been announced are very small in the amount of hype or popularity they have. None of them are even worth noting with the exception of Dirge of Cerberus, which focuses entirely around Vincent.

The best case one could make is the PS3 tech demo that was shown at E3. Other than that, you cannot even begin to compare those other games to Twilight Princess. It's just way too far ahead of those to even compete. At best, you have existing fans already happy about the Final Fantasy VII spin-offs, potentially people who are upset. With Twilight Princess, you have pretty much every kind of gamer looking forward to it, Zelda fan or not.

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Cloud Strife: What’s going to happen to the Planet?
Sephiroth: That… will be for you to decide.