For some reason I thought Kefka was ranked above Ocelot. Makes sense, I suppose.
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Huh-CHA!

if Pac-man is easily doubled by Luigi

Luigi overperformed greatly on Pac-Man.
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Summer 2005 Contest - 22/25 points
Current Match Prediction: Kratos Aurion vs. Diablo

I dunno man, you sure that ain't a bit of bias?

Of course that's bias. It's actually pretty hard to say either way.

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Cloud: What’s going to happen to the Planet?
Sephiroth: That… will be for you to decide.

Cloud: A few points.

Sephiroth and Squall: AN INSANE ****ING LOT.

Any specific percentage gain? I need to figure out how much Cloud gained during that time, mostly.
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"ertyu is actually a language. For example, 'dum' is ertyunese for 'godly'." - Topaz Kitsune
*Waiting for Guru winner's sig*

Rule of thumb: Kefka isn't ranked ahead of anyone with a semblence of strength.

And good to see I'm not the only one who noticed how screwed up Pac-Man/Kefka is.
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"You can't have gone over a kilometer up. 1500 meters, tops." -Samus Aran
"I'll express my love to you slowly, later." -Setzer Gabbiani

I need to figure out how much Cloud gained during that time, mostly.

According to the stats, and not trying to do some silly adjustment from that far back, Cloud gained 12.61% from 2002 to 2003. He remained relatively the same from 2003 to 2004.

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Cloud: What’s going to happen to the Planet?
Sephiroth: That… will be for you to decide.

Luigi overperformed greatly on Pac-Man.

Since that match happened in 2k4, going by 2k3 stats, Luigi did around expected.


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"I dont know what I am talking about? I know more about gaming than 90 percent of the users on the internet." -xmagxus

Any specific percentage gain? I need to figure out how much Cloud gained during that time, mostly.

Soul, that's really hard to say.

Cloud was behind both Mario/Cloud PGCF and Link/Mario SFF in 2k2.

He can be anywhere between 40% to 48% on BL.

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He gained 12% from his match with Mario, but we know that that outcome shouldn't have happened. That's why I brought up Squall and Seph. If they gained about the same, wouldn't Cloud gain the same, or relatively close to the same thing?

I'm just trying to figure out where Fox would end up in today's X-Stats. This would help me out a lot.
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"ertyu is actually a language. For example, 'dum' is ertyunese for 'godly'." - Topaz Kitsune
*Waiting for Guru winner's sig*

Since that match happened in 2k4, going by 2k3 stats, Luigi did around expected.

Correct if I'm wrong, but I don't think Crono/Kefka SFF was taken into account in the 2k3 stats.
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Summer 2005 Contest - 22/25 points
Current Match Prediction: Kratos Aurion vs. Diablo

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I think you meant:

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"Those whose memories fade seek to carve them in their hearts..."
"All dreams are but another reality. Never forget..."

If KA is winning tomorrow, I am going straight to this topic to see the chaos.

If not, I'm still going here to see people arguing about Diablo's strength.

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SC2k5: 22/24
Today: Sonic vs. Jin Kazama

IIRC Cloud was supposed to get something like 45% on Link in 2002. Sephiroth something like 39% if I remember the WDF adjustments correctly. Squall you can trust his numbers.
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"You can't have gone over a kilometer up. 1500 meters, tops." -Samus Aran
"I'll express my love to you slowly, later." -Setzer Gabbiani

He gained 12% from his match with Mario, but we know that that outcome shouldn't have happened. That's why I brought up Squall and Seph. If they gained about the same, wouldn't Cloud gain the same, or relatively close to the same thing?

Then you'll have no definite answer concerning Cloud. There is absolutely no way to say for sure where he should have landed in the stats and I have heard some absolutely absurd claims about how much he should have gotten on Mario. So yeah, I'll get those Squall and Sephiroth numbers.

Sephiroth gained 6.36% from 2002 to 2003.
Squall gained 7.36% from 2002 to 2003.

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Cloud: What’s going to happen to the Planet?
Sephiroth: That… will be for you to decide.

Brett, most of us are out of the running anyway, so I don't think there will be much chaos if KA were to pull the upset.

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It's amazing... "most of us are out of the running". If Samus takes the main bracket, suddenly we're going to look brilliant, mark my words.
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"You can't have gone over a kilometer up. 1500 meters, tops." -Samus Aran
"I'll express my love to you slowly, later." -Setzer Gabbiani

Ok, thanks.

One more question: Is 2002 and 2003 Link static?
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"ertyu is actually a language. For example, 'dum' is ertyunese for 'godly'." - Topaz Kitsune
*Waiting for Guru winner's sig*

Well, first I ask, why Luigi overperformed on Pac-man?

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"I dont know what I am talking about? I know more about gaming than 90 percent of the users on the internet." -xmagxus

I'm still very much in the running, what with Magus only costing me one point. And Samus isn't winning the main bracket... =p

One more question: Is 2002 and 2003 Link static?

According to these stats, yes he was.

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Cloud: What’s going to happen to the Planet?
Sephiroth: That… will be for you to decide.

One more question: Is 2002 and 2003 Link static?

Yep.
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"Those whose memories fade seek to carve them in their hearts..."
"All dreams are but another reality. Never forget..."

If Knuckles wins his division, we'll be back in the running. And also, it seems most people have Mario winning the main bracket. If Samus/Crono wins, then Board 8 wins.
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Summer 2005 Contest - 22/25 points
Current Match Prediction: Kratos Aurion vs. Diablo

Crono's not going to be enough. We NEED Samus to pull through for the extra 32 points. It was the popular pick here, but absolutely no one else went with her.
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"You can't have gone over a kilometer up. 1500 meters, tops." -Samus Aran
"I'll express my love to you slowly, later." -Setzer Gabbiani

Thats because Crono will win. Unless Samus gets assloads of vote stuffing. But ever since Romero's been gone, things have been quiet on that front.
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WWEGSB Hardcore Legend Masa
"Masa, everytime I talk to you, my urge for hot pockets rises. Damn you" - Linky.

Crono's not going to be enough. We NEED Samus to pull through for the extra 32 points. It was the popular pick here, but absolutely no one else went with her.

I'm sure some of the casuals went with her too, just not those favorite brackets currently in top 50.

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Well, Samus didn't have very much bracket support in the top 50 since the beginning.
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"All pretty girls are a trap, a pretty trap, and men expect them to be."
MasterMage119

I want Just Jeff to win <_<
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WWEGSB Hardcore Legend Masa
"Masa, everytime I talk to you, my urge for hot pockets rises. Damn you" - Linky.

Well, first I ask, why Luigi overperformed on Pac-man?

Where does nearly all of Pac-Man's appeal come from? His old school style and the like. Luigi completely takes that away.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Contest 2005 Championship
Round 1: (2) Squall Leonhart 74412 (74.84%), (7) Geno 25022 (25.16%)

Thats because Crono will win. Unless Samus gets assloads of vote stuffing. But ever since Romero's been gone, things have been quiet on that front.

And why would that be?

Samus is safely ahead of Crono in the X-stats.

She performed much better against Cloud than Crono did against Link, who is only a tad bit above Cloud.

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ive got samus in my bracket thanks to board 8, but is she really such a lock? what is she expected to get on mario?
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*pacing back in forth waiting for: advance wars ds, twilight princess, ffxii, kingdom hearts 2, castlevania dos*

Crono's random increases each year.

The Link/Crono and Cloud/Samus matches aren't good enough evidence for me to believe anything there <_< >_>
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WWEGSB Hardcore Legend Masa
"Masa, everytime I talk to you, my urge for hot pockets rises. Damn you" - Linky.

Crono's random increases each year.

Unless Samus decreases, Crono will need more than that to get over her.

And for the record, Samus is expected to get nearly 56% against Mario.

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The Link/Crono and Cloud/Samus matches aren't good enough evidence for me to believe anything there <_< >_>

If you won't buy the X-stats nor those matches, then nothing will ever convince you.

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Oh.

Well, I guess I overestimated that increase.

*shrugs*

If you won't buy the X-stats nor those matches, then nothing will ever convince you.

More than likely :P
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WWEGSB Hardcore Legend Masa
"Masa, everytime I talk to you, my urge for hot pockets rises. Damn you" - Linky.

Considering that many of the perfects still left look like favorites brackets and that Knuckles broke so many brackets that very few of the higher ones were left standing as before, seems we really aren't out of the running just yet. Hell, even those of us that have Magus winning that division might still have a chance depending on if:

A) Many others picked Magus to win the division as well.
B) Knuckles somehow beats Squall too.

Here's to hoping!
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[Player] A bunch of JP just trained me!
[GM] Well you're still here, so they obviously didn't do it right. LBSJ

Knux vs. Squall is a lose-lose situation for me.

I like Squall better, but I want Knux to win so that more brackets will get busted.

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http://katametroiddamaci.ytmnd.com/

That needs to be the opening quote for Samus's match against Frog.
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That... was her final mission. And like a true soldier, she saw it through the end.
ZSB [aX]

XFD.

~*ST*~
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Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest
"If my fate is to be destroyed... I must simply laugh!" -Magus

From: Tediz247 | Posted: 8/12/2005 10:39:42 PM | #188
http://katametroiddamaci.ytmnd.com/

That needs to be the opening quote for Samus's match against Frog.

That is SO ripped off from Metroid Third Derivative. Marumari Damacy sounds better anyway.
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"You can't have gone over a kilometer up. 1500 meters, tops." -Samus Aran
"I'll express my love to you slowly, later." -Setzer Gabbiani

http://katametroiddamaci.ytmnd.com/

We are moved to tears by the content of this link. XD
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The King of all Cosmos' route to summer victory:
Round 1: (0) Voters

And while we're on the subject of Leonhart's rallying, I'd like to attempt pulling a Shake and getting an obscure PC character in the contest. How would I get around to doing that?

By supporting Klaymen from The Neverhood; hell, he was on an obscure PS1 game called Skullmonkeys, too. He = worthy of rallying. =P


"Contest Stats, Discussion, and Social - Part [..]"; would this be a good new name given the way this topic currently works, or should we stick with the current one?

Don't like it; I think discussion and social are synonymus, myself...and, while I enjoy how the topic's generally been lately, I don't wanna see it get MORE social than it has been. Where it's been at is just right for me, and throwing in Social would likely push it over the top for me...


No, adding the commas makes it wordy.

...but, if you were to make the change (which, again, I hope you don't), keep the commas. It may make the topic a lil' longer, but seeing "Contest Stats, Discussion, and Social" is alot easier on my eyes than "Contest Stats Discussion and Social".


It's very strange. I love Tifa to death, but I won't be voting for her until she faces Sonic (well, unless KOS-MOS upsets Luigi).

Strangely enough, I also think alot of Tifa...yet, unless KOS-MOS pulls the upset or if Tifa beats both Sonic and Mega Man, then she's not gettin' my vote past the first round.
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Hillary Clinton: We need to treat violent video games the way we treat tobacco or alcohol.
Lewis Black: Namely as valued contributors to our re-election fund.

Even though it appears we underestimated Jin, Sonic hasn't really looked dominant at all. We expected him to take off with the day vote. He didn't. And now he's losing percentage with the night vote.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Contest 2005 Championship
Round 1: (2) Squall Leonhart 74412 (74.84%), (7) Geno 25022 (25.16%)

Kiddies like Tekken?

Sonic's underwhelming performance bodes well for my theory on the general voting patterns in the contest. I'm thinking he could fall relatively around his 2k3 level when all is said and done, which would work for me.
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I'm about to get sigged by Karma Hunter, and all I'll get is this lousy T-shirt.--Clockwork Dragon

Even though it appears we underestimated Jin, Sonic hasn't really looked dominant at all. We expected him to take off with the day vote. He didn't. And now he's losing percentage with the night vote.

2k4 Sonic would've defeated 2k2 Kazuya (which are total different years and probably won't help us as much as one would think) 81/19 with that and both Tekken 4 and 5 being released since 2k2 would probably give Jin a boost
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I've been Pwned by KoaC. He really is the king of all cosmos.

I'm giving Jin the benefit of the doubt about being stronger than we thought. I'm just saying Sonic hasn't really looked dominant.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Contest 2005 Championship
Round 1: (2) Squall Leonhart 74412 (74.84%), (7) Geno 25022 (25.16%)

Tekken 4 almost killed the entire series, how the hell would that give Jin a boost?

The only way I was going to let this match matter to me was if Sonic got 86% or more. Clearly, that didn't happen, so I don't find it indicative of anything.
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"All pretty girls are a trap, a pretty trap, and men expect them to be."
MasterMage119

Tekken 4 almost killed the entire series, how the hell would that give Jin a boost?

Bad publicity is better then no publicity.
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I've been Pwned by KoaC. He really is the king of all cosmos.