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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 201
From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 8/12/2005 11:22:33 AM | Message Detail
(offensive language, I think)

cloudsongadvice.ytmnd.com



*Creativename's websites*

Everything you could ever imagine:
http://www.sc2k5.com
http://www.sc2k4.com

Summer 2002 Contest Information:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/taxonomy/term/1

Summer 2003 Contest Information:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/taxonomy/term/2

Spring 2004 Contest Information:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/taxonomy/term/3

Summer 2004 Contest Information:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/taxonomy/term/4

Summer 2005 Contest Information:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/taxonomy/term/5

Sortable Table for Every Contest Match:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/19



*Extrapolated Standings*

Explanation of Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/11

Simple Explanation of Extrapolated Standings:
A = Strongest Character
B = Character Weaker than A
C = Character Weaker than B
To figure out a character's Xsts Percentage ---> [(CvB)(BvA)]/50 = CvA
To compare how C would do against B ---> [(CvA)/(BvA)]*50 = CvB
To figure out how B would do against A ---> [(CvA)/(CvB)]*50 = BvA

Summer 2002 Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/13

Summer 2003 Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/14

Spring 2004 Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/15

SFF Adjusted Spring 2004 Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/16

Summer 2004 Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/17

SFF Adjusted Summer 2004 Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/18

Spring 2005 Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/27

All Time Extrapolated Standings:
http://www.freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/alltimexsts.htm



*Solarshadow's Sites*

Summer 2002 Contest:
http://solarshadow2002.tripod.com

Summer 2003 Contest:
http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com/2003/index.html

Spring 2004 Contest: (not currently updating)
http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com/sp2004/index.html



*Old Stats topics*

Summer 2002 Contest:
http://solarshadow2002.tripod.com/page1.html

Summer 2003 Contest:
http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com/archive/topic1p1.html
http://www.angelfire.com/games5/sum_contest/Page1.htm (See note)

2003-2004 Off-Season:
http://membres.lycos.fr/shindohikaru/stats1.htm (See note)
Note: Don't use the links in the topic to browse through the pages, change the page number in the URL.

Spring 2004 Pre-Season (Chance the number after "Season" to view other pages; there are three of them):
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringPreSeason1.htm

Spring 2004 Contest (Change the number after "Stats" to view other pages; there are eight of them):
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringStats1.htm



*Match Pictures*

All the match pics, save for three from 2002:
http://www.sc2k5.com/gallery/index.php



*Miscellaneous*

Creativename's Page of Links:
http://sc2k4.com/links.php

MMXcalibur's Contest Sites:
http://prophetchallenge.hyperboards2.com/index.cgi
http://www.freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/

A List of Acronyms, A Lesson on Percentages, and Some Odd Matches:
http://www.freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/acronymspercentsanomalies.htm

Poll Vote Total Updater:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/25

All Time Top 25/Top 10 Lists:
http://www.rpgdl.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3251



!yawA tsoP
From: Sir Crono | Posted: 8/12/2005 11:34:27 AM | Message Detail
Kratos: I'm not gonna hold back this time.
Lloyd: I know. I won't either.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Contest 2005 Championship
Round 1: (2) Squall Leonhart 74412 (74.84%), (7) Geno 25022 (25.16%)
From: Heroic_Cable | Posted: 8/12/2005 11:35:09 AM | Message Detail
Donkey Kong>Master Chief.
From: Brett with Atreyu | Posted: 8/12/2005 11:35:46 AM | Message Detail
Ulti, who will win, Megaman or Sonic?

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SC2k5: 21/23
Today: Squall vs. Geno
From: BadBFG | Posted: 8/12/2005 11:36:08 AM | Message Detail
Too early
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There are two rules in life to become successful : 1. Never give out all information.
From: ExquisiteSamurai | Posted: 8/12/2005 11:36:28 AM | Message Detail
Tifa > Sonic

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"Life...Dreams...Hope...Where'd they come from? And where are they headed...? These things...I'm going to destroy!!" -Kefka
From: MoogleKupo141 | Posted: 8/12/2005 11:36:45 AM | Message Detail
I killed a drifter!

...Err, Kratos for the win!
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http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=7&topic=21870307
Do me a favor and sign that, eh? Top 100 Nominated Character List.
From: ExquisiteSamurai | Posted: 8/12/2005 11:36:54 AM | Message Detail
Vincent > Knux/Squall

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"Life...Dreams...Hope...Where'd they come from? And where are they headed...? These things...I'm going to destroy!!" -Kefka
From: Kyle Bowen | Posted: 8/12/2005 11:37:13 AM | Message Detail
tag


KB
From: Brett with Atreyu | Posted: 8/12/2005 11:38:00 AM | Message Detail
Kratos for the win indeed.

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SC2k5: 21/23
Today: Squall vs. Geno
From: raytan7585 | Posted: 8/12/2005 11:38:29 AM | Message Detail
Tifa > Luigi

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Score: 20/24 Now: Sonic vs Jin
MechaMachine Score: 22/24 Pick: Sonic over Jin
From: Kyle Bowen | Posted: 8/12/2005 11:38:50 AM | Message Detail
Diablo>Kratos


KB
From: seeraamaazu | Posted: 8/12/2005 11:39:44 AM | Message Detail
Mario > Ness
:P
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DEFENCE, DEFENCE
"Alas, history is nothing but a lie agreed upon" - Napoleon Bonaparte.
From: Do not even ask | Posted: 8/12/2005 12:43:42 PM | Message Detail
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From: Tediz247 | Posted: 8/12/2005 12:45:34 PM | Message Detail
[This message was deleted at the request of the original poster]
From: Do not even ask | Posted: 8/12/2005 12:46:12 PM | Message Detail
"This topic is filled with elitists. I am in favour of it being shut down."
From: StrongBad7343 | Posted: 8/12/2005 12:46:35 PM | Message Detail
Knuckles>Magus>Samus>Cloud>Squall
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Zero's road to the Championship.
Round 1: Ryu Hayabusa
From: Janus5000 | Posted: 8/12/2005 12:46:50 PM | Message Detail
I saw your sig >_>
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The King of all Cosmos' route to summer victory:
Round 1: (0) Voters
From: DragoonsKill91 | Posted: 8/12/2005 12:48:08 PM | Message Detail
Knuckles>Squall>Vincent>Magus
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"The Lotus in Konoha blooms twice..." Rock Lee
From: Ian_Gillan | Posted: 8/12/2005 12:48:50 PM | Message Detail
Vincent > Knuckles > Squall > Magus

-=Æ=-
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http://www.audioscrobbler.com/user/chaoscell/
http://jackisback.ytmnd.com/ http://objp.ytmnd.com/
From: bigkevinm84 | Posted: 8/12/2005 12:49:32 PM | Message Detail
Knuckles>Magus>Ganondorf>Tidus>Shadow>Wario

Also, Kratos > Diablo. I hate Diablo. Kratos is freakin' badass.

VOTE FOR KRATOS.
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Vote for Yoshi
You have no chance to survive make your time.
From: Adept_Of_Aiur | Posted: 8/12/2005 12:49:32 PM | Message Detail
See, these stupid inequalities at the beginning of every topic are completely useless...
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"All pretty girls are a trap, a pretty trap, and men expect them to be."
MasterMage119
From: Ian_Gillan | Posted: 8/12/2005 12:50:38 PM | Message Detail
From: Adept_Of_Aiur | Posted: 8/13/2005 1:49:32 AM
See, these stupid inequalities at the beginning of every topic are completely useless...

I agree. But I posted one anyway. I'm a terrible human being...

-=Æ=-
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http://www.audioscrobbler.com/user/chaoscell/
http://jackisback.ytmnd.com/ http://objp.ytmnd.com/
From: Adept_Of_Aiur | Posted: 8/12/2005 12:51:03 PM | Message Detail

I agree. But I posted one anyway. I'm a terrible human being...


Yes you are. And that's why you are now my slave.
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"All pretty girls are a trap, a pretty trap, and men expect them to be."
MasterMage119
From: Keno316 | Posted: 8/12/2005 12:54:02 PM | Message Detail
I...I don't get the Cloudsong joke...
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"Opinions are like butts, little girl. Everyone's got one and nobody thinks their's stink." -Lunar 2:EB
*Claims KG's Eclair & Millia Rage*
From: MoogleKupo141 | Posted: 8/12/2005 12:55:12 PM | Message Detail
Knuckles > Magus > Vincent > Squall
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http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=7&topic=21870307
Do me a favor and sign that, eh? Top 100 Nominated Character List.
From: Ian_Gillan | Posted: 8/12/2005 12:55:53 PM | Message Detail
Also...SOMEONE explain to me why you make a new stats topic before the other one is even half filled? It seems...really stupid...

-=Æ=-
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http://www.audioscrobbler.com/user/chaoscell/
http://jackisback.ytmnd.com/ http://objp.ytmnd.com/
From: Zaphod H | Posted: 8/12/2005 1:05:32 PM | Message Detail
Dunno.

Maybe it's fun to concurrently fill 2 topics and have go between the two to follow the discussion?
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SSBM. Rock rock on!
From: sidharta | Posted: 8/12/2005 1:08:08 PM | Message Detail
<tag>

Cloud > Link > Seph > Crono > Samus > Mario > Vincent > Every other char in SC2k5.

</tag>

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Reserved for the winner of the SC2K5 Guru Challenge.
From: JonPen1416 | Posted: 8/12/2005 1:09:31 PM | Message Detail
"He kills all who are in his way. He is beyond beast or man. He can only be called a god."

Kratos's titles > inequalities <_<
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I need to put something here.
From: Heroic Knuckles | Posted: 8/12/2005 5:35:51 PM | Message Detail
Kratos > Diablo
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Everyone has the right to be wrong.
22th/125 in the Guru Rankings.
From: Adept_Of_Aiur | Posted: 8/12/2005 5:36:48 PM | Message Detail
Cool, we actually had an on topic 500 post.
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"All pretty girls are a trap, a pretty trap, and men expect them to be."
MasterMage119
From: XxSoulxX | Posted: 8/12/2005 5:37:07 PM | Message Detail
*Repost*

About the rally, I think we should get in Fox McCloud or Falco Lombardi. Fox got 25% on Cloud in 2002, which puts him around Kirby and Knuckles in the stats. He's also in SSBM and had Starfox: Assault come out. I think he could become a pretty good midcarder.
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"ertyu is actually a language. For example, 'dum' is ertyunese for 'godly'." - Topaz Kitsune
*Waiting for Guru winner's sig*
From: NewLib | Posted: 8/12/2005 5:37:13 PM | Message Detail
200 ends ON-TOPIC. Amazing.

Also I completely forgot about Fox.

::adds him to his list::
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Leon's Quest For Ultimate Glory:
1. Tripling Gordon Freeman.
From: Dark115 | Posted: 8/12/2005 5:37:57 PM | Message Detail
Actually I'd like to see what fox can do now too, he's a snub thats been over looked IMO

*adds to list*
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http://users.ign.com/collection/Dark115.
Currently Playing: God of War (PS2), Final Fantasy VIII (PS1), Mega Man X4 (PS1)
From: Master Moltar | Posted: 8/12/2005 5:38:10 PM | Message Detail
NO INEQUALITIES'D

I wanted it to be Inequalities > Mage too <.<

Anyway

I don't see who in their right mind would vote Shadow over Knuckles

I would!
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Moltar's Comics - http://www.stripcreator.com/comics/Moltar
Sonic vs, Jin - Bracket: Sonic - Vote: Sonic (21/24)
From: Sir Crono | Posted: 8/12/2005 5:38:13 PM | Message Detail
Also...SOMEONE explain to me why you make a new stats topic before the other one is even half filled? It seems...really stupid...

Because idiots will make the topic instead.

And starting topics with quotes is better than inequalities.

How 'bout that, too? We ended the topic with a discussion about the contest and stats. That's gotta be a first, huh? That's what makes part 200 special, I guess.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Contest 2005 Championship
Round 1: (2) Squall Leonhart 74412 (74.84%), (7) Geno 25022 (25.16%)
From: Sir Crono | Posted: 8/12/2005 5:39:10 PM | Message Detail
I don't see who in their right mind would vote Shadow over Knuckles

I would!



There's why you don't qualify, Moltar.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Contest 2005 Championship
Round 1: (2) Squall Leonhart 74412 (74.84%), (7) Geno 25022 (25.16%)
From: ChichiriMuyo | Posted: 8/12/2005 5:39:20 PM | Message Detail
"I wouldn't mind having another entrant from Final Fantasy VII -- hell, I'd be happy with all of them in the contest for pure strength purposes, but no one will agree with me on that."

I would
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Now Link, fill up your hearts
So you can shoot your sword with power
From: Slowflake | Posted: 8/12/2005 5:39:51 PM | Message Detail
Cloud wasn't as strong back then... then again, of course, there was the whole SMS factor. If I'm not mistaken, Cloud was projected to get around 45% on Link based on more recent data regarding Tails and Alucard. Still, Fox has always been a solid middle-of-the-pack character, much like Ness or Tails. Better than ****ing Geno, at least. I wonder why he keeps getting left out.

Congratulations on ten thousand posts.

You mean, one hundred thousand posts.
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"I'll express my love to you slowly, later." -Setzer Gabbiani
From: Enoch Camas | Posted: 8/12/2005 5:40:37 PM | Message Detail
I think Morrigan deserves another chance to prove herself.
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From: Master Moltar | Posted: 8/12/2005 5:40:47 PM | Message Detail
I don't see who in their right mind would vote Shadow over Knuckles

I would!


There's why you don't qualify, Moltar.


=(

Now I guess I'll wait until after dinner to post the Kratos/Diablo analyses. Thanks Leon...
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Moltar's Comics - http://www.stripcreator.com/comics/Moltar
Sonic vs, Jin - Bracket: Sonic - Vote: Sonic (21/24)
From: Sir Crono | Posted: 8/12/2005 5:42:09 PM | Message Detail
I don't think Morrigan would do nearly as well as she did in 2002. Same with Strider.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Contest 2005 Championship
Round 1: (2) Squall Leonhart 74412 (74.84%), (7) Geno 25022 (25.16%)
From: Aprosenf | Posted: 8/12/2005 5:42:13 PM | Message Detail
You mean, one hundred thousand posts.

Bah, how embarrassing. But it would have been more embarrassing if I'd gotten the 500th post.
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For the sake of simplicity, I'm going to refer to Gordon Freeman versus Tanner as Schrodinger's Match. -Phoenix Flattener
From: Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted: 8/12/2005 5:42:40 PM | Message Detail
I would

That's because you're awesome. We manage to agree far more often than I recall and it's awesome. ;)

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Cloud: What’s going to happen to the Planet?
Sephiroth: That… will be for you to decide.
From: NewLib | Posted: 8/12/2005 5:44:11 PM | Message Detail
Is there any games in the next year that look to add new characters to the contest beside Twilight Princess?

Will FFXII or KH2 even be out by then...
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Leon's Quest For Ultimate Glory:
1. Tripling Gordon Freeman.
From: Sir Crono | Posted: 8/12/2005 5:45:28 PM | Message Detail
Kingdom Hearts II should be out by then. Final Fantasy XII almost certainly will not. It's not looking to be out in Japan until March.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Contest 2005 Championship
Round 1: (2) Squall Leonhart 74412 (74.84%), (7) Geno 25022 (25.16%)
From: ExquisiteSamurai | Posted: 8/12/2005 5:46:07 PM | Message Detail
From: ChichiriMuyo | Posted: 8/12/2005 5:39:20 PM | Message Detail
"I wouldn't mind having another entrant from Final Fantasy VII -- hell, I'd be happy with all of them in the contest for pure strength purposes, but no one will agree with me on that."

I would

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"Life...Dreams...Hope...Where'd they come from? And where are they headed...? These things...I'm going to destroy!!" -Kefka
From: NewLib | Posted: 8/12/2005 5:47:13 PM | Message Detail
Square-Enix might as well delay FFXII until PS3. Its going to come out around the same time the PS3 comes out which is going to kill its sales.
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Leon's Quest For Ultimate Glory:
1. Tripling Gordon Freeman.
From: Enoch Camas | Posted: 8/12/2005 5:47:45 PM | Message Detail
I don't think Morrigan would do nearly as well as she did in 2002. Same with Strider.

Most likely not, but it would be interesting to see if they both actually have some strength or 2k2 was just a fluke. I'd also expect Kasumi to be pretty decent.
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"Pardon me for breathing, which I never do any way so I don't know why I bother to say it, oh God, I'm so depressed." - Marvin, HHGG
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