I'm going out to do a bunch of crap, and probably won't be back before the old topic hits 500 regardless of how dead today is. But because I'm a greedy bastard, I didn't feel like letting someone else make 200 =p

Sue me <3



*Creativename's websites*

Everything you could ever imagine:
http://www.sc2k5.com
http://www.sc2k4.com

Summer 2002 Contest Information:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/taxonomy/term/1

Summer 2003 Contest Information:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/taxonomy/term/2

Spring 2004 Contest Information:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/taxonomy/term/3

Summer 2004 Contest Information:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/taxonomy/term/4

Summer 2005 Contest Information:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/taxonomy/term/5

Sortable Table for Every Contest Match:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/19



*Extrapolated Standings*

Explanation of Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/11

Simple Explanation of Extrapolated Standings:
A = Strongest Character
B = Character Weaker than A
C = Character Weaker than B
To figure out a character's Xsts Percentage ---> [(CvB)(BvA)]/50 = CvA
To compare how C would do against B ---> [(CvA)/(BvA)]*50 = CvB
To figure out how B would do against A ---> [(CvA)/(CvB)]*50 = BvA

Summer 2002 Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/13

Summer 2003 Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/14

Spring 2004 Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/15

SFF Adjusted Spring 2004 Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/16

Summer 2004 Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/17

SFF Adjusted Summer 2004 Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/18

Spring 2005 Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/27

All Time Extrapolated Standings:
http://www.freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/alltimexsts.htm



*Solarshadow's Sites*

Summer 2002 Contest:
http://solarshadow2002.tripod.com

Summer 2003 Contest:
http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com/2003/index.html

Spring 2004 Contest: (not currently updating)
http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com/sp2004/index.html



*Old Stats topics*

Summer 2002 Contest:
http://solarshadow2002.tripod.com/page1.html

Summer 2003 Contest:
http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com/archive/topic1p1.html
http://www.angelfire.com/games5/sum_contest/Page1.htm (See note)

2003-2004 Off-Season:
http://membres.lycos.fr/shindohikaru/stats1.htm (See note)
Note: Don't use the links in the topic to browse through the pages, change the page number in the URL.

Spring 2004 Pre-Season (Chance the number after "Season" to view other pages; there are three of them):
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringPreSeason1.htm

Spring 2004 Contest (Change the number after "Stats" to view other pages; there are eight of them):
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringStats1.htm



*Match Pictures*

All the match pics, save for three from 2002:
http://www.sc2k5.com/gallery/index.php



*Miscellaneous*

Creativename's Page of Links:
http://sc2k4.com/links.php

MMXcalibur's Contest Sites:
http://prophetchallenge.hyperboards2.com/index.cgi
http://www.freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/

A List of Acronyms, A Lesson on Percentages, and Some Odd Matches:
http://www.freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/acronymspercentsanomalies.htm

Poll Vote Total Updater:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/25

All Time Top 25/Top 10 Lists:
http://www.rpgdl.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3251



!yawA tsoP

*FILES CIVIL LAWSUIT WHAT SO SOON lol*

By the time I get home, my hair will be in full blonde highlights. Ta-ta.

~*ST*~
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Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest
"If my fate is to be destroyed... I must simply laugh!" -Magus

OMG SO SOON?!?

Pac-Man > Ocelot
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Gooper Blooper? Who in the what now?
Bowser has the power to beat Snake and Ryu. He's an earthquake in a can! - UltimaterializerX

200!!

Sonic > Jin

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Score: 19/23 Now: Squall vs Geno
MechaMachine Score: 21/23 Pick: Squall over Gano

I still laugh every time I see someone trying to manipulate the extrapolated stats to explain Magus/Knuckles.
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That... was her final mission. And like a true soldier, she saw it through the end.
ZSB [aX]

From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 8/11/2005 12:45:14 PM | #002
*FILES CIVIL LAWSUIT WHAT SO SOON lol*

By the time I get home, my hair will be in full blonde highlights. Ta-ta.

~*ST*~

K, as long as it's silver for your wedding day.
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That... was her final mission. And like a true soldier, she saw it through the end.
ZSB [aX]

Ulti + Blond Highlights + 'ta ta' = Win

On a related note, how do you guys think Geno/Kerrigan/Terra and ranked in comparison to each other?
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Gotta’ short between the earphones, Wringing my hands in dismay, A more efficient maniac with two feet in the grave.

200!!!! YA ^_^

Gordon > Leon
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My Summer Contest Score: 19/23 - Todays Pick: Squall Leonhart
KingBartz: Been a full Virgin since '87

Geno = Terra > Kerrigan

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I simply must say I'm completely out of ideas for a sig!

I still laugh every time I see someone trying to manipulate the extrapolated stats to explain Magus/Knuckles.

Agreed :)

On another note, Kratos/Diablo might spark some interest but we'll have to wait until Tifa/Vyse before really having anything to discuss.

Oh, and Knuckles > Squall.
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Everyone has the right to be wrong.
22th/125 in the Guru Rankings.

[This message was deleted at the request of the original poster]

jesus, 200 already.

yay for blonde highlights! I dyed my hair blonde once and it turned out white. it freaked the hell out of everyone for a week straight.
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"HOLY ****ING HELL, I JUST WOKE UP, VOTED MAGUS, WENT TO CLICK CONTEST STATS, DOUBLE TOOK, AND COULD NOT ****ING BELIEVE IT." - Explicit Content

<3
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"Battousai... you will always be the perfect Hitokiri..."
Slay. Evil. Immediately.

and finnaly, one last attempt to get my new hobby of predicting macthes. Its a bit revisied too.

KoolAidShoto's Analysis for Tommorow

Sonic(Sonic the Hedgehog series)
vs
Jin Kazama(Tekken Series)

Now, this is a pretty simple one to start off on eh? Jin Kazama isnt even that popular in the Tekken world anymore thanks to his combat changes after T4, so this is definately NOT gonna be any kind of upset. His dad, a arguebaly more popular character, got beat in 2k2 and has yet to make an encore apperence. Sonic is Top Tier in this contest, and looking out how good Knucks did(even though its going against my bracket, I voted for knucks and Im glad he won ^_^), people are spectlating how well Sonic is gonna do against Mega Man. In all reality, I have no idea why anyone even needs to speclate this one. Two blowouts in two days. This is just a tes to see how high off the diving board Sonic is gonna go towards Mega Man. If Knucks beats Squall, then I think Sonic has a REAL chance at beating Mega Man. This is simply the best bracket ever since 2k2 :)

KoolAidShoto's prediction - 75.11%(he needs it to have any chance against MM, and it just nudges in the tripling Sonic needs to get)
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HaloKiller: Gamefaqs user who got owned in the span of two posts.

From: Tediz247 | Posted: 8/11/2005 1:46:17 PM | Message Detail | #005
I still laugh every time I see someone trying to manipulate the extrapolated stats to explain Magus/Knuckles.

I don't think you need to manipulate anything. Leonhart has been calling this for weeks.

Though personally, yesterday's match was the biggest shot to the Xsts we've ever had, and nothing makes me happier than seeing the Xsts and their fanboys get their asses whipped. Add in the fact that Knuckles is my favorite Sonic character by far, and I can stomach what happened. I'm still a little upset, but not for Magus so much as I'm out seven points and out of the contest in the first round. Again.

But back to my original point, of which an easy example is available when reading most of Slowflake or Leonhart's arguments. I love those guys to death, but I really hate when people have Xst blinders on.

RPGuy: Samus was clearly SFFd in 2003. She went down after Metroid Prime, her first release in eight years and arguably the biggest game of her career given pre-release reviews.
Slowflake: But teh WDF!1!
RPGuy: -_-

I'm more than willing to watch Magus get his ass whipped if it means the Xsts finally getting what they deserve. They're decent and all, but they're far from canon. every poll has a life of its own, and using an arbitrary table that doesn't take into account hundreds of possible factors was long overdue for a shot in the foot. What a character did in 2002 or 2003 doesn't have much bearing on what they'll do in the here and now, and I think yesterday's match will go a long way in proving that the 2003 stats are as useless and dated as 2002's.

I'm out for real this time. Bye.

~*ST*~
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Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest
"If my fate is to be destroyed... I must simply laugh!" -Magus

What would...

Unadjusted Knuckles 2004 get on Unadjusted Magus 2004?

Unadjusted Knuckles 2004 get on Adjusted Magus 2004?

Adjusted Knuckles 2004 get on Adjusted Magus 2004?

Adjusted Knuckles 2004 get on Unadjusted Magus 2004?

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SC2k5: 21/23
Today: Squall vs. Geno

Jin is gonna be weaker than Terry. Book it.
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Lonely Angel
http://img124.imageshack.us/img124/973/rockwin026il.gif

Jin is going to get about 17.13% against Sonic. Do not ask me how I came up with that number.

~*The Metal Gear Master*~
---<3---
The Author of Metal Gear Solid: Dawn of the Concealed
Women come and go, but Metal Gear is forever.

Just got back, and god DAMN, does my hair look good. I can't even put into words how happy I am.

Best 80 bucks I ever spent. Well technically the whole thing was 60, but I tipped the girl 20 bucks because of how awesome I look.

~*ST*~
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Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest
"If my fate is to be destroyed... I must simply laugh!" -Magus

I don't think you need to manipulate anything. Leonhart has been calling this for weeks.

Exactly. If you hold Luca Blight Sp2K5 equal to 2004 Luca, it would show Knuckles > Magus. I actually discovered this a little while ago, but I didn't want to bring it up because of how...out of whack it seemed.

Same with Sam Fisher.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Contest 2005 Championship
Round 1: (7) Geno

I am living part of the magic. 200. Wow.
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Summer 2005 Contest - 21/22. Today - Magus Tomorrow - Squall.
If I win, LuniNutz99 gets a free game.

Happy 200!

Sonic will make Jin look weaker than Terry. I'm guessing he'll get around 82%
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Summer Contest Score: 21/23
Today's Pick: Squall

Holy **** ulti. Sixy dollar haircut? With a $20 tip?

High roller, big spender.
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Sometimes classic status is no match for mainstream appeal. I should have listened to Doctor Clarinet!

Fun fact for next round:

Adjusting Squall 2k4 through a constant Bomberman 2k3 gives him 27.79% on Link 2k3.

That's a significant decrease from Squall's 2k3 value of 31.72% on Link 2k3.

If he makes yet another decrease between 2k4 and this year, Knux will give him a run for his money in the next round!

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Reserved for the winner of the SC2K5 Guru Challenge.

Squall > Knuckles, end.
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Jon Thomson - MARIO, Samus, SOLID SNAKE, Bowser, CRONO, Squall, Sonic, MEGA MAN

Knuckles > 499 characters > Magus > Knuckles > Bub > Presea > Simon Belmont > Laharl > Magus
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The King of all Cosmos' route to summer victory:
Round 1: (0) Voters

Adjusting Squall 2k4 through a constant Bomberman 2k3 gives him 27.79% on Link 2k3.

That's a significant decrease from Squall's 2k3 value of 31.72% on Link 2k3.

However, it's far more likely that Bomberman increased somewhat considering his 2002 and 2004 numbers match, and he was closer to Kirby than he was in 2003.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Contest 2005 Championship
Round 1: (7) Geno

Just got back, and god DAMN, does my hair look good. I can't even put into words how happy I am.

Best 80 bucks I ever spent. Well technically the whole thing was 60, but I tipped the girl 20 bucks because of how awesome I look.

Wow, that's a lot or money on a haircut... are you going to a wedding or something?
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10/25/05

From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 8/11/2005 1:55:46 PM | Message Detail
<Rant about X-stats>

My X-stats very clearly indicated a Magus overperformance against Link. When I adjusted to account for that, they had him getting about 51% on Knuckles. That's much closer than the crazy 60% other stats were predicting.

I would say Terra ~= Geno > Cecil.

And Ulti, PICS. NOW.
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For the sake of simplicity, I'm going to refer to Gordon Freeman versus Tanner as Schrodinger's Match. -Phoenix Flattener

Wow, There it is, Topic 200
*toasts*
to solarshadow!
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SpC2k4 Triple Crown WINNER (Oracle, Betting, Spread Betting)
SC2k4 - 12th place

This isn't anything groundbreaking, but I'm reposting it anyway in hopes of a reply from HM since the other topic is about to close.




No, I didn't mean IT dropped him by that much, but to say that Knuckles was boosted by the Collection while Mega Man dropped after his doesn't make any sense.

Well to be fair... Mega Man really only appears on Sony and Nintendo consoles, however, Mega Man Anniversary Collection did not come out for Xbox until the Spring of 2005, which means a newer audience may be able to get their hands on it, bringing him back up. Now Sonic games were mostly featured on Sega consoles, which was back in the day when it was good ol' Nintendo and Sega, which allows Sonic to tie in more with the Nintendo community than any other. I know that's a bit of a stretch, but I believe it. Now, the Sonic Mega Collection previous to this contest had only appeared on the Nintendo console, after the Summer Contest, it was released on the Xbox and PS2 consoles as well. Long story short, I'm expecting Knux increase and a MM increase.
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Explicit Content.
Cheer Up Emo Kids.

200 huh? Das cool
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WWEGSB Hardcore Legend Masa
"Masa, everytime I talk to you, my urge for hot pockets rises. Damn you" - Linky.

Does anyone expect Megaman X Collection to spark any hype for MM? Or is it not hyped at all? I know I'm jacked for it.
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Like Darth Maul, the bastard child of Michael Flatley and Hellboy. -trancer1

Ah, precious part 200. How I need thee.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Contest 2005 Championship
Round 1: (7) Geno

I actually forgot all about it.


~RPGGamer~

From what I can gather, the Mega Man X Collection sounds very hyped. I know I'm excited as hell for it. I've only played MMX, MMX4, and MMX5, and MMX2-3 are just so rare/expensive, and reaaally want to play them.
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For the sake of simplicity, I'm going to refer to Gordon Freeman versus Tanner as Schrodinger's Match. -Phoenix Flattener

*fondles*

Try and forget about that.

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Explicit Content.
Cheer Up Emo Kids.

By the way, I'd find it completely hilarious, if in a total insane turn of events Konami released Suikoden Super Collection. >_> Yes, it'll never happen, but it would own so many people who spent so much money on copies of it.

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Explicit Content.
Cheer Up Emo Kids.

Does anyone expect Megaman X Collection to spark any hype for MM? Or is it not hyped at all? I know I'm jacked for it.

I doubt it will do anything for him as far as contest strength is concerned, but I am hyped for it. MMX7 was utter trash, and although MMX8 is better than MMX7, it's still terrible to me. It's a pain to even PLAY through these games even once. And I don't even remember the STORY of MMX7, seeing how I was so quick to beat it and get rid of it.

I never got to play MMX6, and I absolutely LOVE the rest of the series from X4 on down, so this game is a definite pickup for me. I thought it was coming out this summer though. I'm mad I have to wait until the fall for it. :(
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MM are my INITIALS "There are only 10 kinds of people in this world, those that read binary and those that don't."

Wow, that's a lot or money on a haircut... are you going to a wedding or something?

Yeah, my own. I'm getting married on the 21st.

And I got a 45 dollar highlight, a ½ inch trim, shampoo, toner, conditioner.... the whole nine. And I've always been a big tipper when people take care of me, so that's nothing new.

~*ST*~
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Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest
"If my fate is to be destroyed... I must simply laugh!" -Magus

Chaos Division Round 1 - Match 25 – (1)Sonic vs. (8)Jin Kazama

Sonic
Game/Series Known From: Sonic
Extrapolated Rank in 2002: 5th (41.05%)
Extrapolated Rank in 2003: 10th (34.92%)
Extrapolated Rank in 2004: 7th (33.56%)
Seed in 2002: 1
Seed in 2003: 2
Seed in 2004: 1
Lost in 2002 to Samus in the Sweet 16
Lost in 2003 to Cloud in the Elite 8
Lost in 2004 to Samus in the Elite 8

Sonic once again gets enough noms to be a 1-seed. Yet you people don’t nominate Shadow with him…I swear.

Jin
Game/Series Known From: Tekken
Extrapolated Rank in 2002: N/A
Extrapolated Rank in 2003: N/A
Extrapolated Rank in 2004: N/A
Seed in 2002: N/A
Seed in 2003: N/A
Seed in 2004: N/A

Oh boy…I wonder which group banded together and nominated this guy.

Some traditions just don’t end. Ever since 2003, Sonic has had to take on a fighting game character in Round 1. First it was Ken, then Terry, and now Jin. Sonic is like…the fighting game character killer.

Jin is probably going to turn out the weakest of the fighters. I mean, at least people knew who Terry and Ken were. This guy just walked into the Contest field from out of nowhere.

Moltar’s Bracket Says: Sonic will win.

Moltar’s Prediction is: Sonic: 83% - Jin: 17%



Ulti’s Analysis

(Special note from Ulti: due to me having to take care of a bunch of wedding stuff, my analyses are going to be very lax and short until the end of August, possibly even later. Sorry in advance.)

The only point of this match is to see if Jin is stronger than Terry Bogard. I doubt that he is.

Prediction: Sonic with 87.15%



Soul’s Analysis

Blue Streak, speeds by.
Sonic the Hedgehog!
Too fast for the naked eye.
Sonic the Hedgehog!

As you can tell, this is an obvious match from the get go, and doesn't need much analysis. When people wonder "who the hell you are and why are you in this contest", it doesn't bode well for your chances of
winning. Then, match that up with facing Sonic, one of the strongest in this contest.

Basically, you're screwed. Jin Kazama, meet the contest. Don't let the door hit you on your way out.

My prediction: Sonic wins with 81.23% of the vote. Sonic Vs. Megaman sure looks to be good right about now...



Master Mage’s Analysis

Sonic vs Jin. I'd say that this match is an obvious call from the get go, but after what's happened so far, I'll avoid saying anything is certain. Still, Sonic should easily destroy Jin. Kazama is from the Tekken series, a member of the fighting genre. What this basically translates to, is that Jin will be just as disrespected as every other fighting game character not from Street Fighter. To give a point of reference, Kayuza Mishima weighed in at getting 14% against Link in 2K2. I don't see why Jin should be too different. Sonic wins easily... As easily as anyone can win this year.

Projected winner: Sonic with 80.73%
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Moltar's Comics - http://www.stripcreator.com/comics/Moltar
Squall vs. Geno - Bracket: Squall - Vote: Geno (20/23)

Inviso’s Analysis

Finally, we’re back to the one seeds that DESERVE one seeds. His opponent is Jin Kazama, the third and final fighting game representative in the contest. Jin has had a recent game out Tekken 5, which, like quite a few of the more mainstream characters in the contest, has gotten very good reviews. But good reviews aren’t going to help him. Kazuya Mishima, Jin’s father, couldn’t go anywhere in 2002, and like father like son, Jin won’t either. Sonic though, has not been that strong recently, and is even the second weakest of the noble nine. Jin has the potential to avoid a blowout, but he’s definitely going to get at least a doubling.

My Bracket: Sonic the Hedgehog
My Vote: Jin Kazama
My Prediction: Sonic the Hedgehog with 69.14%



Tnote’s Analysis

Sonic got to face a niche fighting character last year who I shockingly have actually heard of, and performed the sweet, sweet quadrupling. This year, he draws a fighting character I have never heard of. I will be floored if Jin>Terry.

Pick: Sonic with 84.83%



Vlado’s Analysis

Let me be honest with you here. I don't know who the hell Jin Kazama is. While I enjoy the fighting genre, Tekken is one of the series I know the least about. But that doesn't really matter here, does it? First, props to the Tekken fans for being able to get their favourite in the contest. I, of course, would have enjoyed seeing Ling Xiaoyu here, instead, but oh well. Anyway, my lack of knowledge about Tekken will not prevent me from analysing Jin's chances, or lack thereof, in this tourney.

A quick look at the past contests tells you one thing - Street Fighter characters are the only fighting game ones that have any chance of doing good. Yeah, Scorpion is an exception, but he faced such ridiculous opposition on his way to Link in 2002, that it's not even worth commenting on. And, as he faced Link, he couldn't even avoid getting tripled. Pathetic. I doubt Jin will make an exception, and the name of his opponent isn't helping his cause much. He'll get the support of the Tekken fans... And that's about it. Sure, there will be some Sonic anti-voters, but they won't be many. And, with Knuckles' shocking win against Magus, people surely expect a lot from him and, especially, Sonic now. I expect Jin to be quite weak, around Terry Bogard's level, at most.

I don't think I must say anything about Sonic yet... This match will not even tell us anything about him. The bout against Diablo is the first that will give us an idea of his strength this year.

Predicted percentage: Sonic the Hedgehog with 81.12%.
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Moltar's Comics - http://www.stripcreator.com/comics/Moltar
Squall vs. Geno - Bracket: Squall - Vote: Geno (20/23)

Yay, 200!!

I can't wait for Sonic to beat his 3rd fighter character in the first round. Hahaha.
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Vote for Yoshi
You have no chance to survive make your time.

...Inviso expects Jin to do better on Sonic than Kazuya did on Scorpion? Sure, that was three years ago, but... O.o

I hope Ulti's right, because that makes him look better against Mega Man, not that I have a chance in hell of winning >_>
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The King of all Cosmos' route to summer victory:
Round 1: (0) Voters

And I've always been a big tipper when people take care of me, so that's nothing new.

Nothing irks me more than a bad tipper.

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Explicit Content.
Cheer Up Emo Kids.

Pac-man will get at least 45% on Ocelot. Ol' Revolver will struggle with Pac-Man before getting crushed by Yoshi.
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Vote for Yoshi
You have no chance to survive make your time.

Finally, we’re back to the one seeds that DESERVE one seeds.

...

My Prediction: Sonic the Hedgehog with 69.14%


...?
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Contest 2005 Championship
Round 1: (7) Geno

Stranger things have happened....

Actually, maybe not.
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Moltar's Comics - http://www.stripcreator.com/comics/Moltar
Squall vs. Geno - Bracket: Squall - Vote: Geno (20/23)

..it's Inviso. What do you expect?

~*ST*~
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Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest
"If my fate is to be destroyed... I must simply laugh!" -Magus

"Finally, we’re back to the one seeds that DESERVE one seeds."

...

Neither Kirby nor Dante deserved their 1 seed.

"My Prediction: Sonic the Hedgehog with 69.14%"

...?

Yeah, that's way too low for Sonic, especially if you look at his %age against Kazuya.

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Reserved for the winner of the SC2K5 Guru Challenge.