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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 198
From: Sir Crono | Posted: 8/11/2005 12:05:50 AM | Message Detail
30% on Squall puts Geno at 19.03%, below Max Payne.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Contest 2005 Championship
Round 1: (7) Geno
From: Janus5000 | Posted: 8/11/2005 12:05:52 AM | Message Detail
Geno's not doing too badly... yet.
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The King of all Cosmos' route to summer victory:
Round 1: (0) Voters
From: The n00b Avenger | Posted: 8/11/2005 12:06:09 AM | Message Detail
All that's left is for Gordon Freeman to win.
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"No, you see. Here's the problem. You don't know the history of psychiatry. I do." - Tom Cruise
From: charmander6000 | Posted: 8/11/2005 12:06:38 AM | Message Detail
Thought so never really expected much out of Geno sadly.
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I've been Pwned by KoaC. He really is the king of all cosmos.
From: ChichiriMuyo | Posted: 8/11/2005 12:06:39 AM | Message Detail
Well.. proof there will be no perfect bracket.
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Now Link, fill up your hearts
So you can shoot your sword with power
From: Lopen | Posted: 8/11/2005 12:06:52 AM | Message Detail
Now that would be pretty funny. Though I can't think of any matches that would be likely to screw them in round 1. Unless Kratos pulls it out against Diablo. Or if some other mostly unforseen upset happens like Knux/Magus.
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Raiden fact of the contest: Alucard is a plagiarist, this year Raiden will prove it!
From: yoblazer33 | Posted: 8/11/2005 12:07:27 AM | Message Detail
Squall just looks too damn good. If you use an appropriately angled picture, I'm positive he'd get some sort of TJF.
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Board 8: Where people treat each other right.
From: andaca | Posted: 8/11/2005 12:07:27 AM | Message Detail
Hm....just winging this off the top of my head, but an unadjusted squall would put a 30% geno at like 18% on BL, wouldn't it?
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Hail to the Queen of Blades.
From: ChichiriMuyo | Posted: 8/11/2005 12:09:50 AM | Message Detail
Clearly there is a ton of SFF... >_>
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Now Link, fill up your hearts
So you can shoot your sword with power
From: charmander6000 | Posted: 8/11/2005 12:11:48 AM | Message Detail
Clearly there is a ton of SFF... >_>

If it wasn't for the >_> I would slap you right now.
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I've been Pwned by KoaC. He really is the king of all cosmos.
From: sidharta | Posted: 8/11/2005 12:12:28 AM | Message Detail
Squall isn't doing too hot right now, but the day vote should correct it.

I personally can't see Geno as anything more than fodder.
Just like Kerrigan was two days ago.

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Reserved for the winner of the SC2K5 Guru Challenge.
From: Mumei | Posted: 8/11/2005 12:12:32 AM | Message Detail
XD

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<_<
From: bigkevinm84 | Posted: 8/11/2005 12:13:18 AM | Message Detail
25 toneman887 23 Yoshi

Haha, this dude rocks.

And seriously, only ONE Samus bracket in the top 25, and it's not even perfect... I don't think she's winning, with all the bracket support Mario has.... But for my bracket's sake I hope I'm wrong.
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Vote for Yoshi
You have no chance to survive make your time.
From: Master Moltar | Posted: 8/11/2005 12:14:02 AM | Message Detail
Obligitory calling a future match 10 minutes into the poll statement tonight is...

Knuckles > Squall

My Stamp of Certification = Book'd
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Squall vs. Geno - Bracket: Squall - Vote: Geno (20/23)
From: bigkevinm84 | Posted: 8/11/2005 12:14:15 AM | Message Detail
Er, top 50*
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Vote for Yoshi
You have no chance to survive make your time.
From: Lopen | Posted: 8/11/2005 12:14:17 AM | Message Detail
I expect Geno to be weaker than Terra, so Squall's gonna need to increase this %age for me to buy into his chances against Dante.

Yeah, that's right, I overlooked Vincent.
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Raiden fact of the contest: Alucard is a plagiarist, this year Raiden will prove it!
From: NewLib | Posted: 8/11/2005 12:15:14 AM | Message Detail
Why does Geno have to be weaker than Terra, again?
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Leon's Quest For Ultimate Glory:
1. Tripling Gordon Freeman.
From: Team Rocket Elite | Posted: 8/11/2005 12:15:27 AM | Message Detail
Score-Brackets-% Right
22-----102------24.5098039
21-----1162-----14.8881239
20-----3057-----20.6738633
19-----4883-----26.2133934
18-----5876-----31.3478557
17-----5697-----36.0014042
16-----4537-----39.8942032
15-----3225-----44.4961240
14-----2231-----47.3330345
13-----1352-----48.9644970
12-----741------47.3684211
11-----371------46.3611860
10-----185------43.2432432
9------61-------47.5409836
8------47-------53.1914894
7------16-------43.7500000
6------23-------56.5217391
5------28-------78.5714286
4------38-------92.1052632
3------56-------92.8571429
2------57-------96.4912281
1------46-------97.8260870
0------2--------100.0000000

And we finally have a group get a 100% prediction percentage. Unfortunatly, it was the 0s. The fall of Magus completely annihilated them. Interestingly, the perfects actually did better then the -1s, perhaps because a lot of -1s were board members who got Ness vs Vivi wrong.

Thirty five people fell off the Top 50 today. jurjurjur, Vertebreaker, darkone_420, joepilzD, hsf2k, Kod_dawg68, DoglegsChampion, PenguinLancer, spyder27, big_ritt, WuTugu, Wear_Yellow, FallenDramon, PastorTrogdor, JohnDeere04, Metroid_Link, uNcLEo, MikeOMG, briankoenig03, pickle811, vexchaps, lilwill928, McClellandD, Jay_Pee, gcxxxx, gpl9310, _rud_, orlandu781, mswete7, kwbisping, ryu101, Squashy16, ZeRo_Lava, Cloud9681 and HalfThere had Magus beating Knuckles. WhatTheDarn and smashjallo also had Magus winning, but managed to get back onto the Top 50 as -1s.
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"Those whose memories fade seek to carve them in their hearts..."
"All dreams are but another reality. Never forget..."
From: VinnieMac | Posted: 8/11/2005 12:15:48 AM | Message Detail
Wait, how is the guy with Magus winning the tournament still in the top 50?
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"Hey Jack. Have you noticed, wherever you go, there's a body count?" - George Mason
4, 8, 15, 16, 23, 42
From: ChichiriMuyo | Posted: 8/11/2005 12:16:17 AM | Message Detail
"I expect Geno to be weaker than Terra,"

I doubt it, actually.
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Now Link, fill up your hearts
So you can shoot your sword with power
From: Lopen | Posted: 8/11/2005 12:16:28 AM | Message Detail
He doesn't have to, but I have this feeling he will be. Terra's a bigger part of her game, and FF6 > SMRPG here. Just seems to make sense to me.
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Raiden fact of the contest: Alucard is a plagiarist, this year Raiden will prove it!
From: HaRRicH | Posted: 8/11/2005 12:17:03 AM | Message Detail
I expect Geno to be weaker than Terra

I'll support that notion. Squall should, by all means, increase on what he has here right now...but Squall should do better against Geno than Dante did on Terra if Squall wants to keep lookin' like a strong contender for the Devil Division Championship.
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Hillary Clinton: We need to treat violent video games the way we treat tobacco or alcohol.
Lewis Black: Namely as valued contributors to our re-election fund.
From: Heroic Dr Wily | Posted: 8/11/2005 12:17:29 AM | Message Detail
Geno acrually has a rather decent fanbase, while Terra really doesen't.
From: Janus5000 | Posted: 8/11/2005 12:17:31 AM | Message Detail
perhaps because a lot of -1s were board members who got Ness vs Vivi wrong.

>_> I'm an ass.
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The King of all Cosmos' route to summer victory:
Round 1: (0) Voters
From: Sir Crono | Posted: 8/11/2005 12:18:07 AM | Message Detail
Just seems to make sense to me.

And how often has that served us right thus far?
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Contest 2005 Championship
Round 1: (7) Geno
From: Eggplant Lord | Posted: 8/11/2005 12:18:42 AM | Message Detail
SMRPG is more recent, and Geno has more of a fanbase. I'm pretty sure he'll end up above Terra.

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Oh. My. God.
Did the PS2's light just change color...?!
From: charmander6000 | Posted: 8/11/2005 12:18:45 AM | Message Detail
"I expect Geno to be weaker than Terra,"

I doubt it, actually.


I don't know I expected him to be near Terra.
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I've been Pwned by KoaC. He really is the king of all cosmos.
From: ChichiriMuyo | Posted: 8/11/2005 12:19:10 AM | Message Detail
Yeah, but SMRPG is eveidence enough that geno should be stronger in the day.
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Now Link, fill up your hearts
So you can shoot your sword with power
From: Eggplant Lord | Posted: 8/11/2005 12:20:13 AM | Message Detail
From: ChichiriMuyo | Posted: 8/11/2005 12:19:10 AM | #428
Yeah, but SMRPG is eveidence enough that geno should be stronger in the day.

That would be so interesting.

I hope that happens.

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Oh. My. God.
Did the PS2's light just change color...?!
From: yoblazer33 | Posted: 8/11/2005 12:20:51 AM | Message Detail
I'd think Terra would be more popular than Geno. Their games are on the same console and are only, what, a few years apart at the most? Terra seems to be one of the main characters of her game, while Geno isn't, and FFVI is the more popular game in general. No idea how close it would/should be, but I'd take Terra in that fodder-fest.
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Board 8: Where people treat each other right.
From: Sir Crono | Posted: 8/11/2005 12:21:01 AM | Message Detail
Mario RPG had the benefit of facing a franchise famous for sucking with the day vote. I don't know that Geno will actually win it.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Contest 2005 Championship
Round 1: (7) Geno
From: HaRRicH | Posted: 8/11/2005 12:21:43 AM | Message Detail
Wait, how is the guy with Magus winning the tournament still in the top 50?

In the same way I still made the leaderboard after Ridley lost to Diablo, despite having Ridley going to the Final Four; I got on the leaderboard when Liquid Snake beat Lavos, and at that time I had only lost one point (Ridley/Diablo). I didn't lose the other six points I knew I was goin' to lose for Ridley not even being in a second or third match until Bison/Diablo...

...so, essentially, this time next round, I wouldn't expect him to still be there.
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Hillary Clinton: We need to treat violent video games the way we treat tobacco or alcohol.
Lewis Black: Namely as valued contributors to our re-election fund.
From: Sir Crono | Posted: 8/11/2005 12:22:05 AM | Message Detail
and FFVI is the more popular game in general.

Yeah, but how many less popular games have characters stronger than FFVI's best?

Very many. The hodgepodge cast hurts them quite a bit, I think.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Contest 2005 Championship
Round 1: (7) Geno
From: ChichiriMuyo | Posted: 8/11/2005 12:22:22 AM | Message Detail
"Mario RPG had the benefit of facing a franchise famous for sucking with the day vote. I don't know that Geno will actually win it."

Shut up damn you, you're crushing my hopes and dreams!
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Now Link, fill up your hearts
So you can shoot your sword with power
From: Janus5000 | Posted: 8/11/2005 12:23:26 AM | Message Detail
Shut up damn you, you're crushing my hopes and dreams!

...Whatever.
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The King of all Cosmos' route to summer victory:
Round 1: (0) Voters
From: sidharta | Posted: 8/11/2005 12:23:32 AM | Message Detail
Why does Geno have to be weaker than Terra, again?

FF VI > SMRPG

Terra's role in FF VI > Geno's role in SMRPG

Terra is arguably the most important char in FF VI, while Geno is far from being as important as Mario in SMRPG.

Both games have an ensemble cast, where each char doesn't terribly stand out, except for Mario in SMRPG.

All signs point to Terra > Geno so far...

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Reserved for the winner of the SC2K5 Guru Challenge.
From: HaRRicH | Posted: 8/11/2005 12:23:39 AM | Message Detail
Yeah, but SMRPG is eveidence enough that geno should be stronger in the day.

Leonhart beat me to CT, but let's not forget that Street Fighter is also much more potent at night than the day. I wouldn't be too quick to give SMRPG alot of day-hope.
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Hillary Clinton: We need to treat violent video games the way we treat tobacco or alcohol.
Lewis Black: Namely as valued contributors to our re-election fund.
From: Sir Crono | Posted: 8/11/2005 12:24:36 AM | Message Detail
you're crushing my hopes and dreams!

Dreams? I'm gonna have to pass on that subject.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Contest 2005 Championship
Round 1: (7) Geno
From: charmander6000 | Posted: 8/11/2005 12:25:22 AM | Message Detail
and he breaks 70%
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I've been Pwned by KoaC. He really is the king of all cosmos.
From: JaKyL25 | Posted: 8/11/2005 12:26:40 AM | Message Detail

...so, essentially, this time next round, I wouldn't expect him to still be there.


Imagine how screwed up the contest would have to be from here on out if he was, though? It'd be great!
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"If you want Bells & Whistles, I suggest you attend the Circus."--Lance F'n Storm
From: Sir Crono | Posted: 8/11/2005 12:26:40 AM | Message Detail
It took Dante nearly 8 hours to get 70% on Terra, for the record.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Contest 2005 Championship
Round 1: (7) Geno
From: Lopen | Posted: 8/11/2005 12:26:41 AM | Message Detail
And how often has that served us right thus far?

Huh? What? I haven't had a particularly bad run at the "sense" department. Right now I'd say that "sense" has served me rather well.

And to say that Terra has "no fanbase", it's silly. And well, where were you before Terra/Dante? I agree that she isn't the most popular FF6 character, in fact, I'd probably put nearly half of the cast above her. (I've listed em like ten times) But she has a very loyal fanbase there... kinda reminds me of Geno's now that I think about it.
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Raiden fact of the contest: Alucard is a plagiarist, this year Raiden will prove it!
From: charmander6000 | Posted: 8/11/2005 12:28:15 AM | Message Detail
It took Dante nearly 8 hours to get 70% on Terra, for the record.

Squall > Dante
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I've been Pwned by KoaC. He really is the king of all cosmos.
From: Sir Crono | Posted: 8/11/2005 12:28:37 AM | Message Detail
I agree that she isn't the most popular FF6 character, in fact, I'd probably put nearly half of the cast above her.

So...weaker than half the cast > Geno?
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Contest 2005 Championship
Round 1: (7) Geno
From: Lopen | Posted: 8/11/2005 12:30:31 AM | Message Detail
I also suspect that Terra's night vote > Geno's night vote (and Geno's day > Terra's day). I'm not thinking Squall will end up with that much more than Dante got against Terra. A couple of %, tops.
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Raiden fact of the contest: Alucard is a plagiarist, this year Raiden will prove it!
From: Eggplant Lord | Posted: 8/11/2005 12:31:02 AM | Message Detail
From: Lopen | Posted: 8/11/2005 12:26:41 AM | #442
And how often has that served us right thus far?

Huh? What? I haven't had a particularly bad run at the "sense" department. Right now I'd say that "sense" has served me rather well.

And to say that Terra has "no fanbase", it's silly. And well, where were you before Terra/Dante? I agree that she isn't the most popular FF6 character, in fact, I'd probably put nearly half of the cast above her. (I've listed em like ten times) But she has a very loyal fanbase there... kinda reminds me of Geno's now that I think about it.


Except Geno is the most popular character in SMRPG in itself (If Mario's only game were SMRPG, Geno would assuredly be stronger).

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Oh. My. God.
Did the PS2's light just change color...?!
From: Team Rocket Elite | Posted: 8/11/2005 12:31:28 AM | Message Detail
perhaps because a lot of -1s were board members who got Ness vs Vivi wrong.

I have no idea how Vivi got into that sentence. >_>
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"Those whose memories fade seek to carve them in their hearts..."
"All dreams are but another reality. Never forget..."
From: sidharta | Posted: 8/11/2005 12:31:32 AM | Message Detail
IMO, Squall needs a clean tripling of Geno to be as impressive as Dante.

But he'll need more than that to win this division.

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Reserved for the winner of the SC2K5 Guru Challenge.
From: Sir Crono | Posted: 8/11/2005 12:31:51 AM | Message Detail
To add onto that post, Geno is essentially the Auron of Super Mario RPG.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Contest 2005 Championship
Round 1: (7) Geno
From: Lopen | Posted: 8/11/2005 12:32:57 AM | Message Detail
So...weaker than half the cast > Geno?

And yes, absolutely, for reasons already explained. For the record I don't think there's a huge gap between most of them. And that when I say "weaker than half the cast", it's probably more like "less than or equal to". I really only brought that list out for people saying "Terra's the best rep they've got".
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Raiden fact of the contest: Alucard is a plagiarist, this year Raiden will prove it!
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