"Everyone has to take care of themselves. I don't want to carry anyone's burden."

*Creativename's websites*

Everything you could ever imagine:
http://www.sc2k5.com
http://www.sc2k4.com

Summer 2002 Contest Information:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/taxonomy/term/1

Summer 2003 Contest Information:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/taxonomy/term/2

Spring 2004 Contest Information:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/taxonomy/term/3

Summer 2004 Contest Information:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/taxonomy/term/4

Summer 2005 Contest Information:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/taxonomy/term/5

Sortable Table for Every Contest Match:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/19



*Extrapolated Standings*

Explanation of Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/11

Simple Explanation of Extrapolated Standings:
A = Strongest Character
B = Character Weaker than A
C = Character Weaker than B
To figure out a character's Xsts Percentage ---> [(CvB)(BvA)]/50 = CvA
To compare how C would do against B ---> [(CvA)/(BvA)]*50 = CvB
To figure out how B would do against A ---> [(CvA)/(CvB)]*50 = BvA

Summer 2002 Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/13

Summer 2003 Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/14

Spring 2004 Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/15

SFF Adjusted Spring 2004 Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/16

Summer 2004 Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/17

SFF Adjusted Summer 2004 Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/18

Spring 2005 Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/27

All Time Extrapolated Standings:
http://www.freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/alltimexsts.htm



*Solarshadow's Sites*

Summer 2002 Contest:
http://solarshadow2002.tripod.com

Summer 2003 Contest:
http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com/2003/index.html

Spring 2004 Contest: (not currently updating)
http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com/sp2004/index.html



*Old Stats topics*

Summer 2002 Contest:
http://solarshadow2002.tripod.com/page1.html

Summer 2003 Contest:
http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com/archive/topic1p1.html
http://www.angelfire.com/games5/sum_contest/Page1.htm (See note)

2003-2004 Off-Season:
http://membres.lycos.fr/shindohikaru/stats1.htm (See note)
Note: Don't use the links in the topic to browse through the pages, change the page number in the URL.

Spring 2004 Pre-Season (Chance the number after "Season" to view other pages; there are three of them):
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringPreSeason1.htm

Spring 2004 Contest (Change the number after "Stats" to view other pages; there are eight of them):
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringStats1.htm



*Match Pictures*

All the match pics, save for three from 2002:
http://www.sc2k5.com/gallery/index.php



*Miscellaneous*

Creativename's Page of Links:
http://sc2k4.com/links.php

MMXcalibur's Contest Sites:
http://prophetchallenge.hyperboards2.com/index.cgi
http://www.freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/

A List of Acronyms, A Lesson on Percentages, and Some Odd Matches:
http://www.freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/acronymspercentsanomalies.htm

Poll Vote Total Updater:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/25

All Time Top 25/Top 10 Lists:
http://www.rpgdl.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3251

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After 197 fills, fill up 198! Get it? Got it? Good...
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Steve Illumina: 'Sage of Board 8', Renowned Author, MK Master, Noob Basher & Fanbaby Smacker! Score: Who Cares

Is that a Knux quote? Don't recognize it.
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No longer on the Leaderboard... but it was fun being on top of the world.

I'm pretty sure that it's a Squall quote.
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Volgin is one sexy beast....

It is Squall yes...a Square character who wont CHOKE in round 1.

Curse you, Magus! Look at ya, no better than Kefka...no better than Rikku! A failure you are, Magus!
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Steve Illumina: 'Sage of Board 8', Renowned Author, MK Master, Noob Basher & Fanbaby Smacker! Score: 0/0

Oh. Wow. Of course I recognize it after reading again... I think my mind is totally fried after today's match.
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No longer on the Leaderboard... but it was fun being on top of the world.

Why are there so many of these all of a sudden?

Oh yeah, OMFG WTF MAGUS IS LOOSEING?
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Sometimes classic status is no match for mainstream appeal. I should have listened to Doctor Clarinet!

c'mon Magus!!!

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Official Co-Host for PUB TRIVIA XV
Yoblazer is officially THE MAN for beating us all in SpC2K5!!

Easy to explain this. Crono didn't SFF Magus, and Magus rSFF'd Link. Duh.

0_^
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Hail to the Queen of Blades.

Prediction percentage anyone?
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Jon Thomson - MARIO, Samus, SOLID SNAKE, Bowser, CRONO, Squall, Sonic, MEGA MAN

I'm thinking around 23%.

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"Being a Hunter has to be the best job in the world! Well, next to pimp..."

if Knuckles wins, 32%. but only 12 perfects and about 200 with a score of 22 (one match wrong) will be left.

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Yoblazer is officially THE MAN for beating us all in SpC2K5!!

I'll take 28%.
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Jon Thomson - MARIO, Samus, SOLID SNAKE, Bowser, CRONO, Squall, Sonic, MEGA MAN

I'd say about a 28-29% prediction percentage for Knux.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Contest 2005 Championship
Round 1: (7) Geno

stupid, crappy Knuckles. at least i have Vincent winning the Devil Division, though. >_<

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Official Co-Host for PUB TRIVIA XV
Yoblazer is officially THE MAN for beating us all in SpC2K5!!

And again, I'm asking. Is it about 26 votes per 5 minute update that Magus needs. And don't answer my goddamned question with a percentage.
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Now Link, fill up your hearts
So you can shoot your sword with power

All inequalities at the end of the topic were FACTS'D

And 30% even.
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Magus vs. Knuckles - Bracket: Magus - Vote: Knuckles (20/22)

Just a thought, what happens if Vyse under-performs by a significant amount. Does the VFL change with him, or would Vyse be below the line named after him?
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"If you were a man, it would be go time now."
"No, if you were a man, you wouldn't be afraid of a little kitty cat!" - Bucky Katt

Anyone else think that after Vincent/Kerrigan Kratos Aurion has a chance again?

First off, Wesker was probably greatly hurt by Kefka's god pic. It's the only good pic Kefka will ever get, for cripe's sake. This means that Wesker is underrated in the stats, which means that Lloyd didn't do as bad as we thought. This is turn predicts more strength for KA.

Second, Diablo isn't that strong. He's a mid-carder at best. 8000 votes over Kefka isn't impressive at all.

Third, Kerrigan bombed. Hugely. Whether this represents a decrease in Blizzard power os just her weakness, I don't know, but it sure doesn't make Diablo look good.

Fourth, very few people like Lloyd, at all. Unlike Auron/Tidus, where some people like Tidus but most like Auron, this is where almost no one likes Lloyd but nearly everyone at least likes Kratos Aurion, if not love him. It's likely Kratos aurion is far stronger than Lloyd.

It's most likely that I'm completely wrong, but we could be looking at a bracket buster here.

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SC2k5: 21/22 (Curse you Ness!)
Today: Magus vs. Knuckles

Yay for 500. >______>

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It's a Pinball Masquerade
Cheer up Emo kids. ~This sig was pimped by Icon's sig~

Vyse would be below the line, in my opinion. 19% or so is the bare minimum a character should get to be worthy of being in the contest.
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Now Link, fill up your hearts
So you can shoot your sword with power

From last topic:

From: Sidious Kenshin | Posted: 8/11/2005 12:23:43 AM | #494
Magus needs over 55% of the vote from here on in.

... if we bring in massive vote totals, then he could take 52% and still make it. Where are you getting the 55% figure from?

From guessing how many votes the match will end up getting, comparing the votes at this point in time to previous matches (I'm guessing about 101,000), seeing how many votes are then left to be cast and how many of those Magus would need to win.

Looking at votes per update needed is somewhat useful, but because the number of votes per update fluctuates it's not as useful as first appears.
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Jon Thomson - MARIO, Samus, SOLID SNAKE, Bowser, CRONO, Squall, Sonic, MEGA MAN

Anyone else think that after Vincent/Kerrigan Kratos Aurion has a chance again?

No, but I hope you're right.
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"All pretty girls are a trap, a pretty trap, and men expect them to be."
MasterMage119

Just a thought, what happens if Vyse under-performs by a significant amount. Does the VFL change with him, or would Vyse be below the line named after him?

As logn as Tifa doesn't score over 75%, Vyse performed to expectations, so I doubt he'll end up being below the fodder line. I mean, it really isn't possible, Vyse is the fodder line.

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SC2k5: 21/22 (Curse you Ness!)
Today: Magus vs. Knuckles

And again, I'm asking. Is it about 26 votes per 5 minute update that Magus needs. And don't answer my goddamned question with a percentage.

Magus needs around 29 votes/5 min

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"Life...Dreams...Hope...Where'd they come from? And where are they headed...? These things...I'm going to destroy!!" -Kefka

HOORAY FODDER!

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It's a Pinball Masquerade
Cheer up Emo kids. ~This sig was pimped by Icon's sig~

Fourth, very few people like Lloyd, at all

Try going to somewhere other than board 8. This is wrong. Lloyd is a favorite, not necessarily because of his character but just because he's so fun to use in battle. Kratos is the only character I'd surely put over Lloyd, and Sheena and Zelos would be toss ups. The rest aren't even close.
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Raiden fact of the contest: Alucard is a plagiarist, this year Raiden will prove it!

LOL @ 500 post

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Lunatic Under Narcotic Influence
Score:19/21 Next Match: VINCENT

I lol'd thinking about Vyse being under his own fodder line.

I think it's going to happen to.
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Magus vs. Knuckles - Bracket: Magus - Vote: Knuckles (20/22)

Thank you for actually answering the question, unlike someone else. 29... Dayum that's bad.
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Now Link, fill up your hearts
So you can shoot your sword with power

I don't think we have to worry about how many votes Magus needs per update to win.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Contest 2005 Championship
Round 1: (7) Geno

so....... what are you guys gonna do if Magus pulls this one out of his rear end and narrowly beats Squall next round?

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Official Co-Host for PUB TRIVIA XV
Yoblazer is officially THE MAN for beating us all in SpC2K5!!

Thank you for actually answering the question,

No problem

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"Life...Dreams...Hope...Where'd they come from? And where are they headed...? These things...I'm going to destroy!!" -Kefka

Prepare for Vincent/Dante to kill him.
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Volgin is one sexy beast....

From: cyko | Posted: 8/11/2005 12:30:53 AM | #031
so....... what are you guys gonna do if Magus pulls this one out of his rear end and narrowly beats Squall next round?

Complain about vote stuffing straight away :-)
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Jon Thomson - MARIO, Samus, SOLID SNAKE, Bowser, CRONO, Squall, Sonic, MEGA MAN

so....... what are you guys gonna do if Magus pulls this one out of his rear end and narrowly beats Squall next round?

There's no need to worry about that since Magus won't do it.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Contest 2005 Championship
Round 1: (7) Geno

So does my pick of Squall > Vincent look stupid now? I think Vincent will probably win the division and Knux will beat Squall if he holds on. Meaning really my bracket isn't any better than those who have Magus winning the division. :(

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Lunatic Under Narcotic Influence
Score:19/21 Next Match: VINCENT

"so....... what are you guys gonna do if Magus pulls this one out of his rear end and narrowly beats Squall next round?"

What do you mean? With the way the contest has been going it's clear Geno is making it to round 2.
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Now Link, fill up your hearts
So you can shoot your sword with power

Try going to somewhere other than board 8. This is wrong. Lloyd is a favorite, not necessarily because of his character but just because he's so fun to use in battle.

The Tales of Symphonia baord is the only board that has more Lloyd likers than haters, and even then it's close. And battle prowess has little bearing on how a character will do in the contest.

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SC2k5: 21/22 (Curse you Ness!)
Today: Magus vs. Knuckles

From: cyko | Posted: 8/10/2005 7:30:53 PM | Message Detail
so....... what are you guys gonna do if Magus pulls this one out of his rear end and narrowly beats Squall next round?

**** my pants and take a piss in HM's face, or so I assume.

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It's a Pinball Masquerade
Cheer up Emo kids. ~This sig was pimped by Icon's sig~

That being said, I still think Kratos has a small chance. He'll keep it close, at least, I'm thinking. 48%+ for Kratos.
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Raiden fact of the contest: Alucard is a plagiarist, this year Raiden will prove it!

Best. 500th post. Ever.
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Tomorrow: Squall over Geno.
25th/125 in the Guru Rankings.

From: LuniNutz99 | Posted: 8/11/2005 12:31:58 AM | #036
So does my pick of Squall > Vincent look stupid now?

We don't know how strong Vincent is, and won't know until after the Dante match.
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Jon Thomson - MARIO, Samus, SOLID SNAKE, Bowser, CRONO, Squall, Sonic, MEGA MAN

For those interested (Chichiri) =)

3:40 | Magus: 34224 (48.13%) | Knuckles: 36888 (51.87%) | Difference: 2664 (up 25)
3:45 | Magus: 34396 (48.11%) | Knuckles: 36888 (51.89%) | Difference: 2699 (up 35)
3:50 | Magus: 34594 (48.11%) | Knuckles: 37312 (51.89%) | Difference: 2718 (up 19)
3:55 | Magus: 34851 (48.16%) | Knuckles: 37516 (51.84%) | Difference: 2665 (down 53)
4:00 | Magus: 35188 (48.26%) | Knuckles: 37730 (51.74%) | Difference: 2542 (down 23)
4:05 | Magus: 35417 (48.28%) | Knuckles: 37937 (51.72%) | Difference: 2520 (down 22)
4:10 | Magus: 35650 (48.3%) | Knuckles: 38152 (51.7%) | Difference: 2502 (down 18)
4:15 | Magus: 35862 (48.32%) | Knuckles: 38354 (51.68%) | Difference: 2492 (down 10)
4:20 | Magus: 36026 (48.31%) | Knuckles: 38544 (51.68%) | Difference: 2518 (up 26)
4:25 | Magus: 36276 (48.36%) | Knuckles: 38742 (51.64%) | Difference: 2466 (down 52)
4:30 | Magus: 36478 (48.38%) | Knuckles: 38919 (51.62%) | Difference: 2441 (down 25)
4:35 | Magus: 36666 (48.38%) | Knuckles: 39129 (51.62%) | Difference: 2463 (up 22)
4:40 | Magus: 36873 (48.38%) | Knuckles: 39340 (51.62%) | Difference: 2467 (up 4)
4:50 | Magus: 37271 (48.41%) | Knuckles: 39717 (51.59%) | Difference: 2446 (down 19)
5:00 | Magus: 37639 (48.42%) | Knuckles: 40095 (51.59%) | Difference: 2456 (up 10)
5:10 | Magus: 37639 (48.46%) | Knuckles: 40480 (51.54%) | Difference: 2416 (down 40)
5:20 | Magus: 38406 (48.48%) | Knuckles: 40816 (51.52%) | Difference: 2410 (down 6)
5:30 | Magus: 38798 (48.51%) | Knuckles: 41179 (51.52%) | Difference: 2381 (down 29)

Updates left: 79
Required votes per update to tie: 30.1 (60.2 per 10 minutes)

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"Life...Dreams...Hope...Where'd they come from? And where are they headed...? These things...I'm going to destroy!!" -Kefka

And battle prowess has little bearing on how a character will do in the contest

Not in the way I've said it. The casual ToS fans like Lloyd just because he's fun to use in battle. That influences, you guessed it, popularity.
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Raiden fact of the contest: Alucard is a plagiarist, this year Raiden will prove it!

Sp2k5 counts for nothing, especially since it puts Ganon higher than ever before while we're seeing Magus lower than before. Oh, and the least squareds actually have Seph slightly gaining as well. Shows how little you know.

You know, if you hold Ganon constant to his 2k3 numbers and drop Seph all the way, the drop Seph took between SC2k4 and Sp2k5 becomes consistent with the drop he took between SC2k3 and SC2k4.
Have you ever think about that?

He was SFFd in one and only slightly under performed in the other agaisnt a character that had a new game recently.

Dude, I never took his performance against Cloud into account, I'm talking about Kirby and Bomberman!
I know enough to ignore SFF matches, thank you.

Clearly he was overrated like Magus was. They have both dropped relatively proportionately, aren't you intellitgent enough to make the simple conneciton here?

Exactly, and that connection is that except for Cloud and Crono, every Square char has been losing strength ever since 2k3.
I hope you have enough intelligence to understand my point there.

And we don't know where Riku ranks!

But we DO know where Sora ranks, and frankly I don't buy Riku > Sora, period.

If DoC comes out before then bank on it.

It should, and I hope it'll at least prevent him from bombing in his next appearance like every other Square char.

But I guess I should have more faith in Vincent, after all, Aeris didn't bomb in 2k3, after ranking really high in 2k2.

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Reserved for the winner of the SC2K5 Guru Challenge.

And battle prowess has little bearing on how a character will do in the contest.

Eh? So you think people like Crono, Cloud, and Squall for their sparkling personalities?
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MM are my INITIALS "There are only 10 kinds of people in this world, those that read binary and those that don't."

We don't know how strong Vincent is, and won't know until after the Dante match.

That's true, but can Squall really beat Knux? I was hoping for some SFF against Magus.

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Lunatic Under Narcotic Influence
Score:19/21 Next Match: VINCENT

[This message was deleted at the request of the original poster]

Yes, Squall will beat Knuckles. This is Magus being overrated, not Knux being an unexpected powerhouse.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Contest 2005 Championship
Round 1: (7) Geno

Does anybody aside from chichiri not find knuckles performance impressive? No matter how you swing the stats the only data that makes him look weaker then knux is the one match he had against luca. Even then only using spring contest data that every seems to have some phobia about using does it make him look weak.
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