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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 197
From: The n00b Avenger | Posted: 8/10/2005 3:33:49 PM | Message Detail
Voting anomaly my ass. You don't get 200% your average out of nowhere temporarily, stop, and then get it AGAIN.
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From: ChichiriMuyo | Posted: 8/10/2005 3:34:37 PM | Message Detail
"any voting anomaly from now on will be a vote stuffer. "

Unless ceej says otherwise on this one. If he says no cheating here then at least the CSaD will regain some sense of dignity and not call cheats in every friggin match.
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From: DragoonsKill91 | Posted: 8/10/2005 3:35:18 PM | Message Detail
If knuckles was slowing down at all this would be believeable but I have a hard time Magus would just suddenly gain that much without knux slowing down at all...
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From: yoblazer33 | Posted: 8/10/2005 3:35:33 PM | Message Detail
Magus loses another update.
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From: The Doppleganger | Posted: 8/10/2005 3:35:42 PM | Message Detail
Unless ceej says otherwise on this one. If he says no cheating here then at least the CSaD will regain some sense of dignity and not call cheats in every friggin match.

That'll never happen.
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From: Shadow Dino | Posted: 8/10/2005 3:35:56 PM | Message Detail
Ceej usually makes cheating topics late at night. Don't expect it now
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From: Master Moltar | Posted: 8/10/2005 3:35:58 PM | Message Detail
Yeah, this can't be a stuffer. No stuffer would be this stupid AND bad.
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Magus vs. Knuckles - Bracket: Magus - Vote: Knuckles (20/22)
From: ChichiriMuyo | Posted: 8/10/2005 3:36:03 PM | Message Detail
"Voting anomaly my ass. You don't get 200% your average out of nowhere temporarily, stop, and then get it AGAIN."

Magus is not the first character to do this, n00b (he, he actually is a n00b...)
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Now Link, fill up your hearts
So you can shoot your sword with power
From: Sir Crono | Posted: 8/10/2005 3:36:03 PM | Message Detail
Knuckles gains 22. I think that last dip was more due to Knux having a lower intake of votes. He was back over 200 that time.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Contest 2005 Championship
Round 1: (7) Geno
From: charmander6000 | Posted: 8/10/2005 3:37:22 PM | Message Detail
The lead is too big Magus would have to totally own the night vote or have the stuffers on his side.

I would laugh if some one was stuffing for Knux all day long.
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From: ChichiriMuyo | Posted: 8/10/2005 3:37:27 PM | Message Detail
"Ceej usually makes cheating topics late at night. Don't expect it now"

Yes, because unlike some people *looks around and finds a dozen of said people* he waits until there is sufficient evidence.
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Now Link, fill up your hearts
So you can shoot your sword with power
From: Zylo the wolf | Posted: 8/10/2005 3:37:51 PM | Message Detail
Magus gains, Knuckles gains, Magus gains, Knuckles gains.


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From: DragoonsKill91 | Posted: 8/10/2005 3:37:55 PM | Message Detail
Yeah, this can't be a stuffer. No stuffer would be this stupid AND bad.

All noticable stuffing is stupiid because, thats just the point, if it s noticed it means you've been caught.
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From: DragoonsKill91 | Posted: 8/10/2005 3:38:47 PM | Message Detail
I would laugh if some one was stuffing for Knux all day long.

Wouldn't that be ironic...
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From: ChichiriMuyo | Posted: 8/10/2005 3:39:07 PM | Message Detail
"The lead is too big Magus would have to totally own the night vote or have the stuffers on his side."

54-55%... it's not that bad. And yeah, i have mentioned the possibility that Knux was being stuffed before. No one seems to think of that, but Kefka was getting stuffed all day long so it's not like Knux couldn't have gotten the same.
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Now Link, fill up your hearts
So you can shoot your sword with power
From: Janus5000 | Posted: 8/10/2005 3:39:25 PM | Message Detail
ROMEROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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The King of all Cosmos' route to summer victory:
Round 1: (0) Voters
From: cyko | Posted: 8/10/2005 3:40:08 PM | Message Detail
And yeah, i have mentioned the possibility that Knux was being stuffed before. No one seems to think of that, but Kefka was getting stuffed all day long so it's not like Knux couldn't have gotten the same.

i said that much earlier today. i was mostly joking, but it's a possibility.


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From: Karma Hunter | Posted: 8/10/2005 3:40:46 PM | Message Detail
Yeah, I mentioned the possibility of Knuckles being stuffed as well, which is what it is--a possibility. Same thing with Magus, except it looks MUCH more obvious. But the thing is, you don't go "ha ha no way it was a stuffer you're all going to be eating crow" when it is by no means certain.
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From: FourthDeus | Posted: 8/10/2005 3:41:02 PM | Message Detail
What evidence is there of Knuckles vote stuffing?
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From: DragoonsKill91 | Posted: 8/10/2005 3:41:30 PM | Message Detail
There's always the possibility, but if it turns out it was they did almost a near perfect job because it was timed perfectly with the usual arrival of the day vote if it happened at all.
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From: Adept_Of_Aiur | Posted: 8/10/2005 3:41:40 PM | Message Detail
What evidence is there of Knuckles vote stuffing?

Well, I suppose one could say him winning....
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From: The n00b Avenger | Posted: 8/10/2005 3:42:13 PM | Message Detail
Practically none. It's not like Knuckles is the one with vote totals varrying by over 250 per update. Magus is literally getting more votes than he had grand totals before. Then completely stopping.

Been done before? Yeah, in other cheating matches.
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From: lettuce Kefka | Posted: 8/10/2005 3:42:23 PM | Message Detail
Someone really needs to make vote stuffing a banned word. ^_-
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From: yoblazer33 | Posted: 8/10/2005 3:42:28 PM | Message Detail
What evidence is there of Knuckles vote stuffing?

None.
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Board 8: Where people treat each other right.
From: ChichiriMuyo | Posted: 8/10/2005 3:42:32 PM | Message Detail
"What evidence is there of Knuckles vote stuffing?"

What evidence is there of Magus vote stuffing? there's nothing on either side until ceej says so, period.
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Now Link, fill up your hearts
So you can shoot your sword with power
From: Shadow Dino | Posted: 8/10/2005 3:42:38 PM | Message Detail
You can't throw out the possibility of vote stuffing...

...Oh, and Knux won another update. Went up 4...
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From: ChichiriMuyo | Posted: 8/10/2005 3:43:56 PM | Message Detail
You also can't throw it around like it's fact.
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Now Link, fill up your hearts
So you can shoot your sword with power
From: FourthDeus | Posted: 8/10/2005 3:45:02 PM | Message Detail
What evidence is there of Magus vote stuffing?

Irraditic, inexplicable vote gains.

I suspect CJay will only call vote stuffing if Magus reclaims the lead.
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From: Karma Hunter | Posted: 8/10/2005 3:45:25 PM | Message Detail
What evidence is there of Magus vote stuffing? there's nothing on either side until ceej says so, period.

At the MOMENT, it would be more plausible for me to go with Magus than Knux in terms of cheating. For all I know, there will be no significant cheating at all--but that's all it is, a discussion of a freaking possibility.

And honestly, my faith in Ceej catching vote-stuffers grows dimmer with each contest, particularly during the last moments of Kefka/Vercetti. The way he made it sound, it was like he couldn't even make a case for taking away the obviously vote stuffed last updates.
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From: jonthomson | Posted: 8/10/2005 3:45:28 PM | Message Detail
Assuming final vote tally of 101K:

Lead: 2467
Votes still to come: 24787
Magus needs: 54.98%
Or: 24.67 votes / 5 mins
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From: charmander6000 | Posted: 8/10/2005 3:45:46 PM | Message Detail
I was just saying it could happen and it would be funny if it did.
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I've been Pwned by KoaC. He really is the king of all cosmos.
From: Kegger9 | Posted: 8/10/2005 3:46:56 PM | Message Detail
And Magus takes another Random Huge Jump (RHJ)
From: jonthomson | Posted: 8/10/2005 3:47:10 PM | Message Detail
28 right there, but only 53.6% ish.
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From: Sir Crono | Posted: 8/10/2005 3:47:47 PM | Message Detail
That's another one that seems to be due to a lower intake of Knuckles votes.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Contest 2005 Championship
Round 1: (7) Geno
From: RevolverAk47 | Posted: 8/10/2005 3:48:09 PM | Message Detail
I wish cjayc would get off his ass and make a topic that he posts if he is seeing anything suspicous. Him being the only one able to post in it.
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From: Shadow Dino | Posted: 8/10/2005 3:48:23 PM | Message Detail
Over the past 15 minutes he's only gained 2 votes.

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From: lettuce Kefka | Posted: 8/10/2005 3:48:27 PM | Message Detail
From: Kegger9 | Posted: 8/10/2005 11:46:56 PM | Message Detail
And Magus takes another Random Huge Jump (RHJ)


Because Knux took a Random Huge Drop (RHJ)


OMFG TEH VOET STUFFERS!!!¬¬!¬11` LOLOLOLOLZZzz
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From: ChichiriMuyo | Posted: 8/10/2005 3:48:48 PM | Message Detail
"Irraditic, inexplicable vote gains.

I suspect CJay will only call vote stuffing if Magus reclaims the lead."

That's no more evidence than if a 6 foot tall man robs a convenience store and they arrest you for being 6'0". In otherwords it's circumstantial, at best, and the only one who can say otherwise is ceej. Until then there is no evidence, not even "irraditic" gains.
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Now Link, fill up your hearts
So you can shoot your sword with power
From: Draco1214 | Posted: 8/10/2005 3:49:25 PM | Message Detail
That's another one that seems to be due to a lower intake of Knuckles votes.

People said the same thing about Kefka's random gains...

I hope there's no cheating involved.
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Summer 2005 Contest - 20/22 points
Current Match Prediction: Magus vs. Knuckles the Echidna
From: Sir Crono | Posted: 8/10/2005 3:50:29 PM | Message Detail
And Knuckles goes back up.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Contest 2005 Championship
Round 1: (7) Geno
From: charmander6000 | Posted: 8/10/2005 3:52:23 PM | Message Detail
If Magus keeps this up Knuckles would probably drop below 51%.

*gives Magus some new weapons*
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I've been Pwned by KoaC. He really is the king of all cosmos.
From: Sir Crono | Posted: 8/10/2005 3:53:11 PM | Message Detail
If Magus keeps this up Knuckles would probably drop below 51%.

*gives Magus some new weapons*


It won't matter as long as Knuckles finishes with over 50%.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Contest 2005 Championship
Round 1: (7) Geno
From: DeathChicken | Posted: 8/10/2005 3:54:48 PM | Message Detail
Knuckles went up by 4. Then he went down by 20

This is getting funny
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From: Too Short | Posted: 8/10/2005 3:55:26 PM | Message Detail
Heh Magus could gain 2000 votes in a update and you'd still have folks saying "lol there isn't not any vote stuffers proof it."
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From: ChichiriMuyo | Posted: 8/10/2005 3:55:30 PM | Message Detail
Sure it does. It makes the match exciting again. Exciting matches are good, especially if cheating isn't called.
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Now Link, fill up your hearts
So you can shoot your sword with power
From: Sir Crono | Posted: 8/10/2005 3:55:53 PM | Message Detail
And Knuckles jumps up by 19. Looks like we're back to business as usual, folks.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Contest 2005 Championship
Round 1: (7) Geno
From: Karma Hunter | Posted: 8/10/2005 3:56:56 PM | Message Detail
And Knuckles seems to be gaining again.

If that was a hiccup, it was a hellva hiccup indeed.
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From: Shadow Dino | Posted: 8/10/2005 3:57:10 PM | Message Detail
Another win, I think that little event is about over...
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From: ChichiriMuyo | Posted: 8/10/2005 3:57:15 PM | Message Detail
If Magus gained 2000 votes in 5 minutes I'd imagine the poll would keel over and die so we'd never know. Assuming he did, though, it'd clearly not be cheating, just raw power. ;)
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Now Link, fill up your hearts
So you can shoot your sword with power
From: sidharta | Posted: 8/10/2005 3:58:03 PM | Message Detail
I can't believe this...
As over-rated as Magus can be, for him to actually lose to Knux?!

Wtf happened in SC2k3, when he edged out Ganon and score 35% on Link?
Knux won't even get 28% on Link 2k3...

Looks like Wesker bombing on Kefka is completely legitimate.
Him and Luca are nothing but bottom feeders.

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