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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 197
From: jonthomson | Posted: 8/10/2005 3:17:50 PM | Message Detail
To close down 2500 in 8+ hours, Magus needs, ooh, 25 votes every 5 minutes.
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Jon Thomson - MARIO, Samus, SOLID SNAKE, Bowser, CRONO, Squall, Sonic, MEGA MAN
From: Shadow Dino | Posted: 8/10/2005 3:18:02 PM | Message Detail
Okay, Magus's cut 50 over the past 15 minutes.

Either whoever's vote stuffing is getting smarter, or the Asians are slowing down
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Bart, with $10,000, we'd be millionaires! We could buy all kinds of useful things like...love! ~Homer J. Simpson
From: DragoonsKill91 | Posted: 8/10/2005 3:18:19 PM | Message Detail
So whatever the board gets active for 15 minutes... then the cheater eitehr A. gets caught, or B. realises he will get caught and gave up
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"The Lotus in Konoha blooms twice..." Rock Lee
From: Adept_Of_Aiur | Posted: 8/10/2005 3:19:55 PM | Message Detail
To close down 2500 in 8+ hours, Magus needs, ooh, 25 votes every 5 minutes.

And that's not exactly the single most farfetched thing in the world either.
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"All pretty girls are a trap, a pretty trap, and men expect them to be."
MasterMage119
From: swirldude | Posted: 8/10/2005 3:20:08 PM | Message Detail
*marks out unstoppably*

This is the best contest match ever.
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I don't have a sig.
From: Master Moltar | Posted: 8/10/2005 3:20:15 PM | Message Detail
Yay, Knuckles wins an update!
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Magus vs. Knuckles - Bracket: Magus - Vote: Knuckles (20/22)
From: Adept_Of_Aiur | Posted: 8/10/2005 3:20:29 PM | Message Detail
Magus lost that update.
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"All pretty girls are a trap, a pretty trap, and men expect them to be."
MasterMage119
From: chaos knight | Posted: 8/10/2005 3:20:32 PM | Message Detail
I just want my bracket saved at this point. ><
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[GM] Well you're still here, so they obviously didn't do it right.
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From: Zylo the wolf | Posted: 8/10/2005 3:20:47 PM | Message Detail
YAY!
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When this happened, all of us got PWND by Smurf
http://www.freewebs.com/vgcg/Knuckles.jpg
From: DragoonsKill91 | Posted: 8/10/2005 3:21:00 PM | Message Detail
That essentially locks it in... that was not the night vote but a very shortlived cheater.
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"The Lotus in Konoha blooms twice..." Rock Lee
From: ChichiriMuyo | Posted: 8/10/2005 3:21:37 PM | Message Detail
"Regardless of whatever information told us magus was overrated by this much, it wasn't significant enough for us to believe it."

Right, but that's Magus failing us, not Knux suprising us. That's why Magus would still get to be chump of the round (or close to it) while Knux is beaten out narrowly by surprises from the likes of Ness, Zelda, and Vincent (and that's just so far, we're not down with the round yet).

"Knux isn't "doing what should be expected","

Yes he is, just because we ignored the signs doesn't mean Knux is doing any better than he should. Look at it this way, in 2k3 Tidus ~ Ganon ~ Magus... in 2k4 Tidus ~ Knux. Added to that is the fact that Sam Fisher also took a huge dive. The evidence was always there speaking out against Magus and we just didn't listen. Hell, I'm the one that did the math to prove it by means of Ganon-Alucard-Sephiroth-Cloud assuming Seph over performed (which explained away any potential drop from MM as the same time) and even I didn't listen to it. The evidence was always there, knuckles isn't doing any better than the stats say he should.

"I don't think any of it made us think that magus was overrated enough to lose to knuckles."

I thought so, but for awhile the spring contest results were overriding that data in my mind. Clearly a mistake on my part.

"Out of all the contests on the board, not a single person had knuckles winning in them."

Smurf clearly has Knux winning. This will be the only time I give Smurf any credit, but he saw it coming and unlike many of us didn't ignore it.

"Regardless if he's doing what he should be or not, that's some impressive odds to overcome."

No it's not.
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Now Link, fill up your hearts
So you can shoot your sword with power
From: Sir Crono | Posted: 8/10/2005 3:21:59 PM | Message Detail
So Knuckles goes back to doing what he's been doing all along, as does Magus. Magus only got 164 votes in that five minute period.

That was definitely desperation stuffing.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Contest 2005 Championship
Round 1: (7) Geno
From: ChichiriMuyo | Posted: 8/10/2005 3:22:46 PM | Message Detail
"25 votes every 5 minutes."

He can do eet!
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Now Link, fill up your hearts
So you can shoot your sword with power
From: Master Moltar | Posted: 8/10/2005 3:22:47 PM | Message Detail
The stuffer must have realized that he couldn't stop the force that is Knuckles and went to go cry in a corner about Magus.

Magus: It's over Knuckles, I have the night vote!

Knuckles: Not so fast, I activate Eternal Sunshine! It cancels out the effect of the night vote, so I win!

Magus: NOOOOOOO!
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Magus vs. Knuckles - Bracket: Magus - Vote: Knuckles (20/22)
From: AmazingKirby | Posted: 8/10/2005 3:24:17 PM | Message Detail
Stuffing is not cool. ;-(
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From: ChichiriMuyo | Posted: 8/10/2005 3:24:19 PM | Message Detail
"That essentially locks it in... that was not the night vote but a very shortlived cheater."

1. Hiccups like that happen naturaly
2. Only newbs wouldn't know #1
3. You're a newb
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Now Link, fill up your hearts
So you can shoot your sword with power
From: therealmnm | Posted: 8/10/2005 3:24:24 PM | Message Detail
Seeing as how Knuckles has been outgaining Magus in votes for all but 2 hours and 30 minutes of the match, I would find it might suspect for him to start gaining now...
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From: ChichiriMuyo | Posted: 8/10/2005 3:24:45 PM | Message Detail
"That was definitely desperation stuffing."

Newb.
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Now Link, fill up your hearts
So you can shoot your sword with power
From: Adept_Of_Aiur | Posted: 8/10/2005 3:25:31 PM | Message Detail
This vote stuffer is awful.
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"All pretty girls are a trap, a pretty trap, and men expect them to be."
MasterMage119
From: dethfdddddh | Posted: 8/10/2005 3:25:35 PM | Message Detail
Down .05%.

Night vote or a stuffer?
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Volgin is one sexy beast....
From: Eggplant Lord | Posted: 8/10/2005 3:25:35 PM | Message Detail
y halo thar, vote stuffer.

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Oh. My. God.
Did the PS2's light just change color...?!
From: Sir Crono | Posted: 8/10/2005 3:25:37 PM | Message Detail
There are irregular spikes from time to time. Just not THAT irregular. Heck, Magus couldn't even gain that much at the beginning of the poll when he had the lead.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Contest 2005 Championship
Round 1: (7) Geno
From: Master Moltar | Posted: 8/10/2005 3:26:14 PM | Message Detail
Yay irratic spikes!
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Magus vs. Knuckles - Bracket: Magus - Vote: Knuckles (20/22)
From: ChichiriMuyo | Posted: 8/10/2005 3:26:23 PM | Message Detail
I wouldn't. Mostly because that's ceej's job, but also because significantly stranger things have happened in this contest.
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Now Link, fill up your hearts
So you can shoot your sword with power
From: jonthomson | Posted: 8/10/2005 3:26:25 PM | Message Detail
From: ChichiriMuyo | Posted: 8/10/2005 11:22:46 PM | #363
"25 votes every 5 minutes."

He can do eet!


That'd need roughly 54% of the vote, something which he was barely managing when his lead was at a peak.

And it looks like that Knuckles update win was a blip.
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Jon Thomson - MARIO, Samus, SOLID SNAKE, Bowser, CRONO, Squall, Sonic, MEGA MAN
From: Shadow Dino | Posted: 8/10/2005 3:26:49 PM | Message Detail
He's BACK?

Jeeze...
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Bart, with $10,000, we'd be millionaires! We could buy all kinds of useful things like...love! ~Homer J. Simpson
From: Adept_Of_Aiur | Posted: 8/10/2005 3:26:51 PM | Message Detail
Well, if nothing else, this may make the night more interesting! :D
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"All pretty girls are a trap, a pretty trap, and men expect them to be."
MasterMage119
From: DragoonsKill91 | Posted: 8/10/2005 3:27:19 PM | Message Detail
1. Hiccups like that happen naturaly
2. Only newbs wouldn't know #1
3. You're a newb


yes I'm well aware similar have ahppened before but gaining what was around 200-250 combined votes in 20 minutes without the oponent slowing down at all is realtively rare espesically when teh match has been consistent for a whle at this point anyway.
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"The Lotus in Konoha blooms twice..." Rock Lee
From: Sir Crono | Posted: 8/10/2005 3:28:00 PM | Message Detail
Magus got 250 votes that time, by the way.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Contest 2005 Championship
Round 1: (7) Geno
From: Master Moltar | Posted: 8/10/2005 3:28:05 PM | Message Detail
Let's see, the stuffer either

- Had to pee
- Recharge, because he's a robot
- or just is very, very dumb.
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Magus vs. Knuckles - Bracket: Magus - Vote: Knuckles (20/22)
From: yoblazer33 | Posted: 8/10/2005 3:28:18 PM | Message Detail
lmao

This is the worst cheater ever.
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Board 8: Where people treat each other right.
From: ChichiriMuyo | Posted: 8/10/2005 3:28:52 PM | Message Detail
"And it looks like that Knuckles update win was a blip."

Which is why I was calling everybody a bunch of newbs. We've seen hundreds of matches now and there are always spikes from the leading character when another character starts coming back. It's not like *ding* It's X:XX so the XXX vote changes to the YYY vote and that's that! There's a transition period where both characters will be fighting it out for awhile.

Newbs.
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Now Link, fill up your hearts
So you can shoot your sword with power
From: yoblazer33 | Posted: 8/10/2005 3:29:00 PM | Message Detail
Oh wait, the Starcraft guy(s).

This is the second worst cheater ever.
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Board 8: Where people treat each other right.
From: jonthomson | Posted: 8/10/2005 3:29:07 PM | Message Detail
Looks like this one's on target for 100-101K votes, so that's, say, 26,000 to go, and Magus trails by 2466. So 14233/26000 = 54.7% of the vote required. It'd need better than the morning form for Magus to win.
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Jon Thomson - MARIO, Samus, SOLID SNAKE, Bowser, CRONO, Squall, Sonic, MEGA MAN
From: Karma Hunter | Posted: 8/10/2005 3:29:31 PM | Message Detail
Magus gained 250 votes in five minutes that update. >_<
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I'm about to get sigged by Karma Hunter, and all I'll get is this lousy T-shirt.--Clockwork Dragon
From: Adept_Of_Aiur | Posted: 8/10/2005 3:29:33 PM | Message Detail
Let's see how this update goes. Heh. This is fun when we KNOW we are watching how bad a cheater is. :P
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"All pretty girls are a trap, a pretty trap, and men expect them to be."
MasterMage119
From: ChichiriMuyo | Posted: 8/10/2005 3:30:00 PM | Message Detail
"yes I'm well aware similar have ahppened before but gaining what was around 200-250 combined votes in 20 minutes without the oponent slowing down at all is realtively rare espesically when teh match has been consistent for a whle at this point anyway."

Jill did the exact same thing against Ryu H. It's not that rare, really.
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Now Link, fill up your hearts
So you can shoot your sword with power
From: Master Moltar | Posted: 8/10/2005 3:30:24 PM | Message Detail
Oh wow...

This stuffer fails.
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Magus vs. Knuckles - Bracket: Magus - Vote: Knuckles (20/22)
From: Adept_Of_Aiur | Posted: 8/10/2005 3:30:30 PM | Message Detail
25 that time.
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"All pretty girls are a trap, a pretty trap, and men expect them to be."
MasterMage119
From: ChichiriMuyo | Posted: 8/10/2005 3:31:01 PM | Message Detail
"It'd need better than the morning form for Magus to win."

Well he wasn't exactly impressive in the morning.
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Now Link, fill up your hearts
So you can shoot your sword with power
From: Kagato Toujou | Posted: 8/10/2005 3:31:07 PM | Message Detail
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From: The Doppleganger | Posted: 8/10/2005 3:31:14 PM | Message Detail
I'm gonna laugh when, you know, this turns out not be a cheater.
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WWEGSB Hardcore Legend Masa
"Masa, everytime I talk to you, my urge for hot pockets rises. Damn you" - Linky.
From: DragoonsKill91 | Posted: 8/10/2005 3:31:27 PM | Message Detail
This getting past the point of ammusement to the point of stupidity...
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"The Lotus in Konoha blooms twice..." Rock Lee
From: Master Moltar | Posted: 8/10/2005 3:32:02 PM | Message Detail
This IS a cheater, but Ceej isn't going to say anything unless this gets to 50-50.
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Magus vs. Knuckles - Bracket: Magus - Vote: Knuckles (20/22)
From: ChichiriMuyo | Posted: 8/10/2005 3:32:12 PM | Message Detail
"I'm gonna laugh when, you know, this turns out not be a cheater."

As will I. That'll be ownage worthy of my sig, and one of you will be imortalized in my sig for about a week if ceej calls no shenanigans.
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Now Link, fill up your hearts
So you can shoot your sword with power
From: Shadow Dino | Posted: 8/10/2005 3:32:13 PM | Message Detail
In the past 15 minutes, Magus has gained 51...
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Bart, with $10,000, we'd be millionaires! We could buy all kinds of useful things like...love! ~Homer J. Simpson
From: jonthomson | Posted: 8/10/2005 3:32:16 PM | Message Detail
From: Adept_Of_Aiur | Posted: 8/10/2005 11:30:30 PM | #389
25 that time.

Although that seemed to be a drop in Knuckles votes rather than a gain in Magus votes. Could be a small fightback coupled with poor stuffing attempts.
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Jon Thomson - MARIO, Samus, SOLID SNAKE, Bowser, CRONO, Squall, Sonic, MEGA MAN
From: transience | Posted: 8/10/2005 3:32:58 PM | Message Detail
god bless George. any voting anomaly from now on will be a vote stuffer.
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"HOLY ****ING HELL, I JUST WOKE UP, VOTED MAGUS, WENT TO CLICK CONTEST STATS, DOUBLE TOOK, AND COULD NOT ****ING BELIEVE IT." - Explicit Content
From: Karma Hunter | Posted: 8/10/2005 3:33:29 PM | Message Detail
As will I. That'll be ownage worthy of my sig, and one of you will be imortalized in my sig for about a week if ceej calls no shenanigans.

You know that's just stupid to say. If Knuckles stays afloat despite cheating, there'd be no reason for Ceej to say anything and get the board in an uproar.
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I'm about to get sigged by Karma Hunter, and all I'll get is this lousy T-shirt.--Clockwork Dragon
From: The Doppleganger | Posted: 8/10/2005 3:33:45 PM | Message Detail
As will I. That'll be ownage worthy of my sig, and one of you will be imortalized in my sig for about a week if ceej calls no shenanigans.

Sweet, immortality because of something I said on a message board. My life is complete >_>
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WWEGSB Hardcore Legend Masa
"Masa, everytime I talk to you, my urge for hot pockets rises. Damn you" - Linky.
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