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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 197
From: Slowflake | Posted: 8/10/2005 10:31:14 AM | Message Detail
If history is to change, let it change! If the world is to be destroyed, so be it! If my fate is to die... I must simply laugh!

*Creativename's websites*

Everything you could ever imagine:
http://www.sc2k5.com
http://www.sc2k4.com

Summer 2002 Contest Information:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/taxonomy/term/1

Summer 2003 Contest Information:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/taxonomy/term/2

Spring 2004 Contest Information:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/taxonomy/term/3

Summer 2004 Contest Information:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/taxonomy/term/4

Summer 2005 Contest Information:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/taxonomy/term/5

Sortable Table for Every Contest Match:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/19



*Extrapolated Standings*

Explanation of Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/11

Simple Explanation of Extrapolated Standings:
A = Strongest Character
B = Character Weaker than A
C = Character Weaker than B
To figure out a character's Xsts Percentage ---> [(CvB)(BvA)]/50 = CvA
To compare how C would do against B ---> [(CvA)/(BvA)]*50 = CvB
To figure out how B would do against A ---> [(CvA)/(CvB)]*50 = BvA

Summer 2002 Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/13

Summer 2003 Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/14

Spring 2004 Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/15

SFF Adjusted Spring 2004 Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/16

Summer 2004 Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/17

SFF Adjusted Summer 2004 Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/18

Spring 2005 Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/27

All Time Extrapolated Standings:
http://www.freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/alltimexsts.htm



*Solarshadow's Sites*

Summer 2002 Contest:
http://solarshadow2002.tripod.com

Summer 2003 Contest:
http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com/2003/index.html

Spring 2004 Contest: (not currently updating)
http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com/sp2004/index.html



*Old Stats topics*

Summer 2002 Contest:
http://solarshadow2002.tripod.com/page1.html

Summer 2003 Contest:
http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com/archive/topic1p1.html
http://www.angelfire.com/games5/sum_contest/Page1.htm (See note)

2003-2004 Off-Season:
http://membres.lycos.fr/shindohikaru/stats1.htm (See note)
Note: Don't use the links in the topic to browse through the pages, change the page number in the URL.

Spring 2004 Pre-Season (Chance the number after "Season" to view other pages; there are three of them):
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringPreSeason1.htm

Spring 2004 Contest (Change the number after "Stats" to view other pages; there are eight of them):
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringStats1.htm



*Match Pictures*

All the match pics, save for three from 2002:
http://www.sc2k5.com/gallery/index.php



*Miscellaneous*

Creativename's Page of Links:
http://sc2k4.com/links.php

MMXcalibur's Contest Sites:
http://prophetchallenge.hyperboards2.com/index.cgi
http://www.freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/

A List of Acronyms, A Lesson on Percentages, and Some Odd Matches:
http://www.freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/acronymspercentsanomalies.htm

Poll Vote Total Updater:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/25

All Time Top 25/Top 10 Lists:
http://www.rpgdl.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3251

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Klhg zdzb!
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You can't have gone over a kilometer up. 1500 meters, tops. -Samus Aran
From: DBZFIGHTERS | Posted: 8/10/2005 10:31:45 AM | Message Detail
Magus > Nobody.

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Die hard Cubs, Pistons, Patriot and Maple Leaf fan
Owl Squad Member ( ēvē( ēvē )ēvē ) O RLY?
From: yoblazer33 | Posted: 8/10/2005 10:31:47 AM | Message Detail
Oh, he's dying alright.
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Board 8: Where people treat each other right.
From: Applekidjosh | Posted: 8/10/2005 10:32:05 AM | Message Detail
Knuckles > Magus for the second first post in a row!!
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No longer on the Leaderboard... but it was fun being on top of the world.
From: Heroic Dr Wily | Posted: 8/10/2005 10:32:10 AM | Message Detail
Magus=ass on a plate served to Knuckles with a side of termites and fire ants.
From: jonthomson | Posted: 8/10/2005 10:32:13 AM | Message Detail
Squall > Knuckles > Vincent
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Jon Thomson - MARIO, Samus, SOLID SNAKE, Bowser, CRONO, Squall, Sonic, MEGA MAN
From: Applekidjosh | Posted: 8/10/2005 10:32:21 AM | Message Detail
ouch, I missed
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No longer on the Leaderboard... but it was fun being on top of the world.
From: Saiyan X | Posted: 8/10/2005 10:32:21 AM | Message Detail
Laugh on, Magus.
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Needless to say, the sexual implications were intentional.
From: Zylo the wolf | Posted: 8/10/2005 10:33:10 AM | Message Detail
Knuckles VS Crono in the Elite Eight!


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When this happened, all of us got PWND by Smurf
http://www.freewebs.com/vgcg/Knuckles.jpg
From: Kyle Bowen | Posted: 8/10/2005 10:33:25 AM | Message Detail
Squall may be stronger than Vincent without the SFF... but FF7 will take the SFF over FF8.

That is all I am worried about.

However his match with Dante will be telling.. we dont know how strong he is.


KB
From: kirbyjump | Posted: 8/10/2005 10:33:29 AM | Message Detail
The stats are once again wrong.
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"It's not the great who are strong, it's the strong who are great." - Albel Nox, Star Ocean: Till the End of Time
From: jonthomson | Posted: 8/10/2005 10:35:17 AM | Message Detail
From: Kyle Bowen | Posted: 8/10/2005 6:33:25 PM | #010
Squall may be stronger than Vincent without the SFF... but FF7 will take the SFF over FF8.

I'm thinking Squall will take the SFF actually, being a more prominent character in the respective game.

But a Vincent win would lead me to predict a random piece of FF7 furniture beating half of the field.
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Jon Thomson - MARIO, Samus, SOLID SNAKE, Bowser, CRONO, Squall, Sonic, MEGA MAN
From: I_Dont_Love_You | Posted: 8/10/2005 10:43:21 AM | Message Detail
Is it possible that Link and his pals were actually weaker in 2003 than they have been? It might explain Magus's overratedness better.

Weakened Zelda/Strengthed Square in 2003, CT/Magus drop... Too many possible factors
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God bless The Great George Romero, the true winner of the 2k5 Summer Contest.
From: RPGuy96 | Posted: 8/10/2005 10:54:54 AM | Message Detail
Worst first round prediction percentages:

1. StarCraft/Halo: 24.09%
2. Vivi/Donkey Kong: 35.13%
3. Tommy Vercetti/Kefka: 37.66%
4. Master Hand/Kuja: 39.11%
5. Shadow/Wario: 42.10%
6. Morrigan/Spyro: 42.30%
7. KOS-MOS/Crash: 42.50%
8. Knuckles/Kefka: 43.05%
9. Tina/Gordon: 43.70%
10. Frog/Liquid Snake: 44.33%

Think this match can make it in?
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"It shall be engraved upon your soul! Divine Assault: Nibelung Valesti!" ~ Lenneth Valkyrie
From: yoblazer33 | Posted: 8/10/2005 10:58:10 AM | Message Detail
Wow! I really agree with posts 496 and 501!
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Board 8: Where people treat each other right.
From: charmander6000 | Posted: 8/10/2005 10:58:16 AM | Message Detail
1300 votes, yup it's over.
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I've been Pwned by KoaC. He really is the king of all cosmos.
From: NewLib | Posted: 8/10/2005 10:58:38 AM | Message Detail
500 post >>>>>>> 501 post.


First time I get 500 and someone has to go 501 on me.
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Leon's Quest For Ultimate Glory:
1. Tripling Gordon Freeman.
From: TheCruelAngel | Posted: 8/10/2005 10:58:45 AM | Message Detail
I have a very crazy theory regarding Magus' performance. Know that this theory is so crazy that it doesn't make sense to me...

Magus did lower than expected on every single opponent save for Link and Ganondorf, right? He made Luca and Sam look better than we thought they were, and even with a huge degree of SFF against him, he got lower on Magus than expected.

From this part on, this goes crazy.

What system was Chrono Trigger on? The SNES. The SNES also housed several Zelda games. I'm thinking that he managed to rSFF Link enough to look good, and rSFF Ganondorf enough to overcome yje statistical defference between them.

It's crazy, I know.

Now, discuss. :P

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Warden: Talk! What is SeeD all about!?
Squall: ...Flower.


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Warden: Talk! What is SeeD all about!?
Squall: ...Flower.
From: Master Moltar | Posted: 8/10/2005 10:59:20 AM | Message Detail
This match SHOULD make Top 3 in Worst Round 1 Predictions. At worst, it'll be Top 5.
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Moltar's Comics - http://www.stripcreator.com/comics/Moltar
Magus vs. Knuckles - Bracket: Magus - Vote: Knuckles (20/22)
From: yoblazer33 | Posted: 8/10/2005 10:59:49 AM | Message Detail
Worst first round prediction percentages:

1. StarCraft/Halo: 24.09%
2. Vivi/Donkey Kong: 35.13%
3. Tommy Vercetti/Kefka: 37.66%
4. Master Hand/Kuja: 39.11%
5. Shadow/Wario: 42.10%
6. Morrigan/Spyro: 42.30%
7. KOS-MOS/Crash: 42.50%
8. Knuckles/Kefka: 43.05%
9. Tina/Gordon: 43.70%
10. Frog/Liquid Snake: 44.33%

Think this match can make it in?


Absolutely. Knuckles already occupies the 8 spot against Kefka. This one is a lock for second place and may dethrone Starcraft.
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Board 8: Where people treat each other right.
From: Keno316 | Posted: 8/10/2005 11:00:15 AM | Message Detail
Oh...he's definitely laughing now.

And I'm throwing the stats out the window...I'm just gonna make my own stats now...
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"Opinions are like butts, little girl. Everyone's got one and nobody thinks their's stink." -Lunar 2:EB
*Claims KG's Eclair & Millia Rage*
From: NewLib | Posted: 8/10/2005 11:01:12 AM | Message Detail
My Stats:

1.Leon Kennedy
2.Link
3. Albert Wekser







65. Everyone else

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Leon's Quest For Ultimate Glory:
1. Tripling Gordon Freeman.
From: Kyle Bowen | Posted: 8/10/2005 11:01:12 AM | Message Detail
NO one wants to respond by Admitting Samus was SFF'd by link in 2k3...


It will happen again this year against Mario.

KB
From: I_Dont_Love_You | Posted: 8/10/2005 11:01:19 AM | Message Detail
2002 Link

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=963
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=983
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=993
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=998
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1001
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1002

84.31% on Little Mac
75.77% on Strider
72.63% on Jill
75.98% on Scorpion
56.65% on Sephiroth
62.53% on Mario

2003 Link

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1305
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1337
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1353
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1361
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1365

91.35% on Aiai
82.46% on Fox
65.07% on Magus
62.06% on Samus
48.39% on Cloud

2004 Link

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1718
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1750
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1766
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1774
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1778
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1780

87.83% on CATS
87.9% on Ganondorf
81.74% on Yoshi
62.82% on Crono
67.61% on Mega Man
51.82% on Cloud

2003 Ganondorf

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1307
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1338

50.68% on Tidus
49.7% on Ganondorf

2004 Ganondorf

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1719
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1750

57.16% on Alucard
12.1% on Link

Spring 2005 Ganondorf

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2001
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2011
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2016
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2018
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2019

84.98% on Giygas
74.44% on Ansem
76.64% on Robotnik
65.2% on Diablo
41.83% on Sephiroth

2003 Zelda

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1335
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1352

62.29% on Lara Croft
39.25% on Mega Man
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God bless The Great George Romero, the true winner of the 2k5 Summer Contest.
From: Tai | Posted: 8/10/2005 11:02:37 AM | Message Detail
The stats are once again wrong.

I know.
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PETITION: Ability to preview contests to moderators before posting it. http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=7&topic=19643565 (216 Signs!)
From: therealmnm | Posted: 8/10/2005 11:05:50 AM | Message Detail
Knuckles > Squall > Magus
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MM are my INITIALS "There are only 10 kinds of people in this world, those that read binary and those that don't."
From: I_Dont_Love_You | Posted: 8/10/2005 11:06:49 AM | Message Detail
Didn't Tidus turn out to be worse than 2003 suggested as well?
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God bless The Great George Romero, the true winner of the 2k5 Summer Contest.
From: Master Moltar | Posted: 8/10/2005 11:07:00 AM | Message Detail
I'm going to make my own stats too!

According to the Molt-Stats, Magus rhymes with Gagus, and gagging is like choking, so Knuckles wins with 51%+ of the vote.
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Moltar's Comics - http://www.stripcreator.com/comics/Moltar
Magus vs. Knuckles - Bracket: Magus - Vote: Knuckles (20/22)
From: Brett with Atreyu | Posted: 8/10/2005 11:11:18 AM | Message Detail
tag

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SC2k5: 21/22 (Curse you Ness!)
Today: Magus vs. Knuckles
From: charmander6000 | Posted: 8/10/2005 11:11:44 AM | Message Detail
This is making my Tidus > Ryu upset look like ****

Doesn't really matter since I live in Canada.
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I've been Pwned by KoaC. He really is the king of all cosmos.
From: Keno316 | Posted: 8/10/2005 11:12:38 AM | Message Detail
I'm just gonna go with, if you're from Pre-FF7 Square, and you don't have the word Crono written in your name in any way or form, you're gonna suck...
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"Opinions are like butts, little girl. Everyone's got one and nobody thinks their's stink." -Lunar 2:EB
*Claims KG's Eclair & Millia Rage*
From: I_Dont_Love_You | Posted: 8/10/2005 11:12:41 AM | Message Detail
Meh, I'm starting to think 2k3 Link's useless if he overrated Magus, Tidus, and Sam Fisher so much.
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God bless The Great George Romero, the true winner of the 2k5 Summer Contest.
From: TheCruelAngel | Posted: 8/10/2005 11:14:10 AM | Message Detail
I repeat myself:

I have a very crazy theory regarding Magus' performance. Know that this theory is so crazy that it doesn't make sense to me...

Magus did lower than expected on every single opponent save for Link and Ganondorf, right? He made Luca and Sam look better than we thought they were, and even with a huge degree of SFF against him, he got lower on Magus than expected.

From this part on, this goes crazy.

What system was Chrono Trigger on? The SNES. The SNES also housed several Zelda games. I'm thinking that he managed to rSFF Link enough to look good, and rSFF Ganondorf enough to overcome the statistical defference between them. Remember the game contest? CT and LttP were both mighty strong. I'm sure that they share many fans. Also, CT ended up winning...

It's crazy, I know.

Now, discuss. :P

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Warden: Talk! What is SeeD all about!?
Squall: ...Flower.
From: Unlimited Fate | Posted: 8/10/2005 11:14:13 AM | Message Detail
The votes gained in the updates are so sporadic... I mean, how does Knuckles manage to lose 8 votes in one update, just before and just after gaining 30?
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Gotta’ short between the earphones, Wringing my hands in dismay, A more efficient maniac with two feet in the grave.
From: Keno316 | Posted: 8/10/2005 11:15:26 AM | Message Detail
Just look at how many each character gets individually each update if you want to find a pattern...
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"Opinions are like butts, little girl. Everyone's got one and nobody thinks their's stink." -Lunar 2:EB
*Claims KG's Eclair & Millia Rage*
From: red sox 777 | Posted: 8/10/2005 11:15:43 AM | Message Detail
Yes, perhaps Link overperformed due to bracket voting on Cloud in 2003. Samus was SFF'd.
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Summer Contest 2005 --- Score: 20/21 --- Rank: T-137
From: dragoontheguy | Posted: 8/10/2005 11:16:00 AM | Message Detail
The votes gained in the updates are so sporadic... I mean, how does Knuckles manage to lose 8 votes in one update, just before and just after gaining 30?

It happens, and doesn't mean either side has much cheating. Fifteen minute updates make a much better reference as they don't fluctuate as much.
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Please sign this petition for a history board:
http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=7&topic=21995996
From: Karma Hunter | Posted: 8/10/2005 11:16:27 AM | Message Detail
Technically, I think Magus won the next update by three votes. <.<
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I'm about to get sigged by Karma Hunter, and all I'll get is this lousy T-shirt.--Clockwork Dragon
From: transience | Posted: 8/10/2005 11:17:25 AM | Message Detail
new sig.
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"HOLY ****ING HELL, I JUST WOKE UP, VOTED MAGUS, WENT TO CLICK CONTEST STATS, DOUBLE TOOK, AND COULD NOT ****ING BELIEVE IT." - Explicit Content
From: Heroic Dr Wily | Posted: 8/10/2005 11:19:14 AM | Message Detail
http://piccolo5587.tripod.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/magus.jpg
From: Lopen | Posted: 8/10/2005 11:22:43 AM | Message Detail
If Magus can keep him at 2000ish votes I think he can come back with the second night vote... ah who am I kidding.

I knew this would be close, but Knuckles > Ganondorf? Who'da thunk it?
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Raiden fact of the contest: Alucard is a plagiarist, this year Raiden will prove it!
From: Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted: 8/10/2005 11:23:34 AM | Message Detail
but Knuckles > Ganondorf? Who'da thunk it?

Except that is not the case.

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Takes nothing to realize your Ken.
http://img159.imageshack.us/img159/480/kensa34mr.gif
From: Master Moltar | Posted: 8/10/2005 11:23:40 AM | Message Detail
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1308 - Magus/Fisher
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2083 - DK/Fisher

So that's Luca, Fisher AND the Un-Adjusted Stats that told us this match was going to be close.

Yay for ignoring the hints!
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Moltar's Comics - http://www.stripcreator.com/comics/Moltar
Magus vs. Knuckles - Bracket: Magus - Vote: Knuckles (20/22)
From: I_Dont_Love_You | Posted: 8/10/2005 11:24:26 AM | Message Detail
There's definitely a few variables everyone's missing.

Did anyone ever double-check to make sure all the math on the percentages and extrapolated stats and **** like that were all accurate?
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God bless The Great George Romero, the true winner of the 2k5 Summer Contest.
From: yoblazer33 | Posted: 8/10/2005 11:25:11 AM | Message Detail
Board 8: Where blindness rapes us in the ass.
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Board 8: Where people treat each other right.
From: red sox 777 | Posted: 8/10/2005 11:25:54 AM | Message Detail
A small amount of hope for Magus:

From this time to before Mario's final (cheat?) rally, Crono gained about 600 votes in 2 less hours of night vote in Mario/Crono II. Mario had peaked about an hour before.

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Summer Contest 2005 --- Score: 21/22 --- Rank: T-103
From: Lopen | Posted: 8/10/2005 11:25:54 AM | Message Detail
I actually didn't ignore the hints. I've been talking about Fisher, Tidus, and Luca for months. I just didn't think Magus would actually be in danger of losing. Luckily, I do have him losing to Squall next round because of this so I'm only out a point.
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Raiden fact of the contest: Alucard is a plagiarist, this year Raiden will prove it!
From: TheCruelAngel | Posted: 8/10/2005 11:25:57 AM | Message Detail
Its not the math. I'm telling you that my theory is correct. ;)

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Warden: Talk! What is SeeD all about!?
Squall: ...Flower.
From: Master Moltar | Posted: 8/10/2005 11:25:59 AM | Message Detail
Oh, and to see what DK and Knuckles have to do with each other, check their positions in the 2004 Stats (both if you want)
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Moltar's Comics - http://www.stripcreator.com/comics/Moltar
Magus vs. Knuckles - Bracket: Magus - Vote: Knuckles (20/22)
From: Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted: 8/10/2005 11:26:48 AM | Message Detail
Luckily, I do have him losing to Squall next round because of this so I'm only out a point.

Same. <3

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Takes nothing to realize your Ken.
http://img159.imageshack.us/img159/480/kensa34mr.gif
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