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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 195
From: Lopen | Posted: 8/10/2005 1:51:07 AM | Message Detail
Oh my. Knux gained quite a bit there. I'm going to sleep now. Heh.
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From: yoblazer33 | Posted: 8/10/2005 1:51:36 AM | Message Detail
Time to start thinking of a Guru Contest sig.

With the way things are looking, one busted division may not cost you the Guru crown, especially if you have some upsets in your bracket. Sonic over Mega Man would be a pretty good one right about now. >_>
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From: Tequilla Gundam | Posted: 8/10/2005 1:51:37 AM | Message Detail
Yeah X stats are crap..

Snake was MASSIVELY underrated =/

Snake is equal/near Sonic imo
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Summer 2005 Contest Score : 19/19
Rank : 1/33793 Today: Crono
From: ChichiriMuyo | Posted: 8/10/2005 1:51:55 AM | Message Detail
Sometimes it hurts to be wrong... and after all the time I spent saying that Magus was overrated I should have better prepared for this moment. Hopefully Knux is cheating >_>
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From: creativename | Posted: 8/10/2005 1:52:07 AM | Message Detail
This won't be like Knuckles/Kefka. If Knuckles does win, I really doubt he'll finish with more than 52%.

But, that's amazing enough by itself.
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From: Dranze | Posted: 8/10/2005 1:52:59 AM | Message Detail
Snake was MASSIVELY underrated =/

I hugely doubt it. Magus being overrated doesn't make Snake underrated.
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Summer Contest 2k5 - Points: 19/21
Kerrigan Vs. Vincent Valentine - Bracket: Vincent Valentine - Vote: Vincent
From: JonPen1416 | Posted: 8/10/2005 1:53:12 AM | Message Detail
I think most people thought Magus was overrated, but no one thought he was this overrated. <_<
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From: yoblazer33 | Posted: 8/10/2005 1:54:05 AM | Message Detail
Knuckles with his second update victory, slicing 12 votes from the lead.
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From: Tequilla Gundam | Posted: 8/10/2005 1:54:41 AM | Message Detail
From: Dranze | Posted: 8/10/2005 2:52:59 AM | Message Detail | #256
Snake was MASSIVELY underrated =/

I hugely doubt it. Magus being overrated doesn't make Snake underrated.
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You are kidding, right?

Maybe not massively, but significantly..
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Summer 2005 Contest Score : 19/19
Rank : 1/33793 Today: Crono
From: Dranze | Posted: 8/10/2005 1:55:03 AM | Message Detail
You are kidding, right?

Maybe not massively, but significantly..


What makes Snake underrated anyway?
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Summer Contest 2k5 - Points: 20/22
Magus Vs. Knuckles - Bracket: Magus - Vote: Knuckles
From: therealmnm | Posted: 8/10/2005 1:55:18 AM | Message Detail
So what the bloody hell happened with Magus/Link in 2k3? I always figured that he was overrated due to the 2k3 Magus bandwagon, but that would have to be one HELL of a bandwagon for him to drop this much... More like a bus....

I wouldn't possibly think it would have to do with Link... unless his Legend of Zelda sprite hurt him, but I doubt it would be to this magnitude. And I don't see why Chrono Trigger sprites would perform much better. It's not like their artwork isn't photogenic. The CT characters are some of the best looking characters IN the contest.

Or maybe I could add this into my non-linearity theory... It may be that Knuckles may have blossomed now that he isn't tied down under Snake. Otherwise, I'm completely clueless on Magus/Link.
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From: Kagato Toujou | Posted: 8/10/2005 1:55:33 AM | Message Detail
Magus 53.65% 4428
Knuckles the Echidna 46.35% 3825
TOTAL VOTES 8253

Hopefully Knux is cheating >_>

It'd be nice, but Knux isn't really sopping up huge amounts of votes. Magus is just THAT BAD right now. His take-in ratio each update is abysmal.

Magus gains four votes. :(
From: BeTheMan | Posted: 8/10/2005 1:55:55 AM | Message Detail
The only way that Snake is significantly underrated is if Mega Man is significantly underrated...and seeing as Mega has gotten throttled in each of the past two years, I'd be surprised if that were the case.
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From: Smurf87 | Posted: 8/10/2005 1:56:22 AM | Message Detail
Knuckles to win the Devil Division.
Sonic to win the contest.

Only then will justice have been served

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From: Tequilla Gundam | Posted: 8/10/2005 1:56:33 AM | Message Detail
Well, maybe him being under Magus in the X Stats when he performed MASSIVELY better against a common opponent..

Just a guess? ^_^
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Summer 2005 Contest Score : 19/19
Rank : 1/33793 Today: Crono
From: Karma Hunter | Posted: 8/10/2005 1:57:05 AM | Message Detail
I said this before, but I'm pretty sure it's already been mentioned--is there going to be a more 'casual' factor affecting the results, due to the poll being higher on the page than it was last summer (at least I think it is, I remember being pissed when they moved it down but I don't know far it went down)?

I *think* it may have gone back up, but that's because I use classic view and never noticed that it wasn't that low for most. =/
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From: Dranze | Posted: 8/10/2005 1:57:51 AM | Message Detail
Well, maybe him being under Magus in the X Stats when he performed MASSIVELY better against a common opponent..

Just a guess? ^_^


But that just makes Magus overrated. Weaker than Snake, at least, though, that doesn't make Snake look any stronger on his own..
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Summer Contest 2k5 - Points: 20/22
Magus Vs. Knuckles - Bracket: Magus - Vote: Knuckles
From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 8/10/2005 1:58:57 AM | Message Detail
From: therealmnm | Posted: 8/10/2005 4:55:18 AM | Message Detail | #261
So what the bloody hell happened with Magus/Link in 2k3?


The heck if I know.

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"If my fate is to be destroyed... I must simply laugh!" -Magus
From: Chinballz | Posted: 8/10/2005 1:59:36 AM | Message Detail
With the way things are looking, one busted division may not cost you the Guru crown, especially if you have some upsets in your bracket. Sonic over Mega Man would be a pretty good one right about now. >_>

Too bad my bracket is straight cookie cutter. I just don't like taking upsets, even though I know they're inevitable. Unless of course they are due to seeding and not strength, like Alucard over Kratos.
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From: Smurf87 | Posted: 8/10/2005 2:00:38 AM | Message Detail
Magus cheated, I'm guessing.

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From: yoblazer33 | Posted: 8/10/2005 2:01:00 AM | Message Detail
So what the bloody hell happened with Magus/Link in 2k3?

Fluke. No one overperforms on Link without it being a fluke.
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From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 8/10/2005 2:01:49 AM | Message Detail
The only thing I can think of is that CT characters vastly overperform when they get sprites, and that Link's sprite actually hurt him.

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"If my fate is to be destroyed... I must simply laugh!" -Magus
From: LordOfDabu | Posted: 8/10/2005 2:02:06 AM | Message Detail
What happened in Magus vs Link may very well be the same thing that happened in Sephiroth's final two matches.
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From: TheCruelAngel | Posted: 8/10/2005 2:02:53 AM | Message Detail
Here's to hoping that next round in bot sprites if Magus makes it past Knuckles.

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From: Kagato Toujou | Posted: 8/10/2005 2:04:51 AM | Message Detail
The only thing I can think of is that CT characters vastly overperform when they get sprites, and that Link's sprite actually hurt him.

Then it's my hope Magus survives this onslaught by Knux and picks up a sprite versus Squall second round. But hell, it might be *Geno* the way this contest is going.
From: LordOfDabu | Posted: 8/10/2005 2:05:09 AM | Message Detail
If Dante gets the same sprite that he did last year he will get destroyed, although I'm not really sure what Vincent would get.
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.nS) quote of the week:
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From: Karma Hunter | Posted: 8/10/2005 2:05:32 AM | Message Detail
Snake > Zelda
Snake > Bowser (or Tidus, for all we know)

BOOK IT

...*sigh*. Yeah, I know this is probably just Magus being overrated and Snake being underrated...and for all we know, Knuckles could be cheating...but Snake gets no love, and I want to get on a bandwagon for him.

But...seriously, does Knuckles actually stand a chance at winning this thing, or is this just Magus underperforming but not letting it happen?
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From: Kagato Toujou | Posted: 8/10/2005 2:06:45 AM | Message Detail
Magus 53.54% 4685
Knuckles the Echidna 46.46% 4065
TOTAL VOTES 8750

Loss of 18 for Magus. Fourth down.
From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 8/10/2005 2:07:24 AM | Message Detail
I'm not really sure what Vincent would get.

An in-battle FF7 pic. Remember 2003?

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"If my fate is to be destroyed... I must simply laugh!" -Magus
From: Mumei | Posted: 8/10/2005 2:08:05 AM | Message Detail
If you guys could take a break for just a moment from the hysteria, I was wondering what the thoughts were on Link vs. Cloud, or if anything so far in the contest has given anyone reason to feel differently about their choice.

Oh, and yes, I find this a bit suprising, myself, but it seems like things are being repeated so often that I'll just sit and read.

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From: Karma Hunter | Posted: 8/10/2005 2:08:54 AM | Message Detail
Sorry, that should Snake *not* being underrated in my last post. Though I wish he were. ;_;
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From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 8/10/2005 2:09:10 AM | Message Detail
With the way this contest is going, the TOC will be Vincent > Cloud in the finals.

Oh ****, do I wish that were even possible.

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"If my fate is to be destroyed... I must simply laugh!" -Magus
From: Kagato Toujou | Posted: 8/10/2005 2:09:27 AM | Message Detail
But...seriously, does Knuckles actually stand a chance at winning this thing, or is this just Magus underperforming but not letting it happen?

Knuckles is an absolute beast with the day vote. It's very much a possibility.
From: Mumei | Posted: 8/10/2005 2:10:13 AM | Message Detail
That would be quite amusing...

Though Link vs. Vincent would be more interesting than an SFF match, really.

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From: creativename | Posted: 8/10/2005 2:11:30 AM | Message Detail
It's certainly possible that the pic mattered for that match...

http://www.sc2k5.com/gallery/displayimage.php?album=4&pos=48

Link doesn't look great, and the Sprite Theory has been making the rounds for a while now.

The main thing that doesn't make sense is Tidus dropping so much from 2K2 to 2K3. But, if he didn't drop then, he apparently dropped later.

Who the **** knows though. No one saw this coming, so all reasoning would be after-the-fact, and thus not entirely satisfactory. If someone had actually predicted this beforehand with some theory, that theory would gain credibility; but as it is, all we can do is make up unconvincing speculation.
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From: cavedog0 | Posted: 8/10/2005 2:11:36 AM | Message Detail
If you guys could take a break for just a moment from the hysteria, I was wondering what the thoughts were on Link vs. Cloud, or if anything so far in the contest has given anyone reason to feel differently about their choice.

I picked Cloud. Because I like him more than Link, and the AC factor. I was regreting my decision when Nintendo started dominating, but then Vincent came back and kicked major ass. So to tell you the truth, I have no ****ing idea.
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From: Karma Hunter | Posted: 8/10/2005 2:11:36 AM | Message Detail
I have Link in my bracket, but I'll be voting Cloud and I'm starting to think all the AC hullabaloo and the hype for the new FF7 games could give him the win. Then again, there's Twilight Princess hype as well...if you were to point a gun at my head and ask me who I thought was going to win, I'd say Link, though.
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From: yoblazer33 | Posted: 8/10/2005 2:11:48 AM | Message Detail
I was wondering what the thoughts were on Link vs. Cloud, or if anything so far in the contest has given anyone reason to feel differently about their choice.

I'm still confident in Link, as Twilight Princess hype has been building for the past years, but this one really can go either way. Advent Children may have a greater impact than I anticipate, but more than that, this match is unpredictable because it's the first "one shot deal" we've ever had. Neither Cloud nor Link will have the traditional two months to show us their strength, establish their fanbases, and trounce everyone in preparation. It's just one match and they're done, and either one can take it.
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From: therealmnm | Posted: 8/10/2005 2:11:51 AM | Message Detail
Damn... and I thought this would be a quiet day on the board so I could finally post my top 51 games list... Looks like I may have to wait for Yoshi/Laharl...
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From: Mumei | Posted: 8/10/2005 2:13:12 AM | Message Detail
I can't believe it took me two hours to realize what animal I'm going to be doing in my Rate the Animal topic tomorrow. =D

Echidna!

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From: cavedog0 | Posted: 8/10/2005 2:13:40 AM | Message Detail
YES!
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From: Karma Hunter | Posted: 8/10/2005 2:13:41 AM | Message Detail
The way everything keeps turning out, Laharl may trounce Yoshi shortly to being blown out by Pac-Man. >_<
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From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 8/10/2005 2:13:59 AM | Message Detail
For the curious, this is exactly what Knuckles did against Kefka. He then firmly established about 3-4 hours into the poll that he was going to win, then took off with the day vote.

Given the strength of Magus, Knuckles could very well win this thing by 5000 votes or more.

~*ST*~
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"If my fate is to be destroyed... I must simply laugh!" -Magus
From: Kagato Toujou | Posted: 8/10/2005 2:15:01 AM | Message Detail
I have Link, and I have faith in Link, so help me Link.

I believe he'll beat out Cloud by a small margin and then comfortably snuff out the winner of Tourney Champ '05/Seph.
From: Karma Hunter | Posted: 8/10/2005 2:15:22 AM | Message Detail
When does Magus/CT do the best? The night, right? You think we might see a match of Frog-like closeness by the end?
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From: cavedog0 | Posted: 8/10/2005 2:15:26 AM | Message Detail
Given the strength of Magus, Knuckles could very well win this thing by 5000 votes or more.

And thats comming from the #1 Magus lover in the land.
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From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 8/10/2005 2:15:29 AM | Message Detail
And by "the strength of Magus," Knuckles probably can't win by 12000 votes like he did against Kefka. But he could win by half that.

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"If my fate is to be destroyed... I must simply laugh!" -Magus
From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 8/10/2005 2:16:03 AM | Message Detail
And thats comming from the #1 Magus lover in the land.

Yep :(

Sucks to be out of this contest come the first round. Again.

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"If my fate is to be destroyed... I must simply laugh!" -Magus
From: Kagato Toujou | Posted: 8/10/2005 2:16:08 AM | Message Detail
Magus 53.34% 4907
Knuckles the Echidna 46.66% 4293
TOTAL VOTES 9200

Knuckles wins his third update in a row.

gg Magus.
From: Starion | Posted: 8/10/2005 2:16:52 AM | Message Detail
Ha! And this coming from someone who insulted everyone who had Squall over Magus.
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