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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 194
From: Lopen | Posted: 8/10/2005 12:22:48 AM | Message Detail
I thought Tidus was overrated too, but I couldn't see him doing that much worse than Squall did against a common opponent, hence I picked Tidus.

Hopefully I wasn't screwed by my Match Logic > X-Stats Logic mentality. Actually, it is Kirby here... hopefully I was.
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Raiden fact of the contest: Alucard is a plagiarist, this year Raiden will prove it!
From: BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted: 8/10/2005 12:22:48 AM | Message Detail
You guys gotta remember that 90% of Knuckle's votes so far more then likely came from big fans on this board. Check in at about 8:00 am and I think Magus may push above 60%

22 Sarah Kerrigan
Vincent Valentine 75.77%

Wow, boy do I feel like an idiot now =(
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From: NewLib | Posted: 8/10/2005 12:22:55 AM | Message Detail
Not a year later, he got it in between 2003 and 2004.
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Leon's Quest For Ultimate Glory:
1. Tripling Gordon Freeman.
From: Heroic Dr Wily | Posted: 8/10/2005 12:23:06 AM | Message Detail
Yeah, we all know Magus deserves his spot in the noble nine, he outranked Sonic.
From: Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted: 8/10/2005 12:23:14 AM | Message Detail
The Devil division is going to screw so many.

Believe it or not, I'm looking to have a perfect Devil Division. ;)

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From: creativename | Posted: 8/10/2005 12:23:30 AM | Message Detail
Holy moly.

I never would've expected this.

I cannot believe that there is an excellent chance that Magus will lose to Knuckles. Knuckles might be the favorite right now! What is this?

Chrono Trigger is just so weird in these contests.
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From: DBZFIGHTERS | Posted: 8/10/2005 12:23:32 AM | Message Detail
Maybe it's just the fact that Knuckles is really strong and Magus isn't.

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From: NewLib | Posted: 8/10/2005 12:23:49 AM | Message Detail
This should also scare Snake > Zelda people, because it makes it much more likely that Zelda/Vivi was mostly Zelda increasing.
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Leon's Quest For Ultimate Glory:
1. Tripling Gordon Freeman.
From: Mister Mario | Posted: 8/10/2005 12:24:00 AM | Message Detail
But a year later, which makes no sense to me.

He was finished off in a SFF match of WOAHMGHOLYCRAP proportions.
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Mario is Winnar
Next victim: Master Ness
From: BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted: 8/10/2005 12:24:31 AM | Message Detail
32 lilwill928 22 Gordon Freeman

Well, maybe not THAT much of an idiot.
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From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 8/10/2005 12:24:35 AM | Message Detail
Chrono Trigger is just so weird in these contests.

That's the first thought that crossed my mind as well.

~*ST*~
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"If my fate is to be destroyed... I must simply laugh!" -Magus
From: TheCruelAngel | Posted: 8/10/2005 12:24:35 AM | Message Detail
Believe it or not, I'm looking to have a perfect Devil Division. ;)

I would too, if I had Vincent over Squall.

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Warden: Talk! What is SeeD all about!?
Squall: ...Flower.
From: ChichiriMuyo | Posted: 8/10/2005 12:24:36 AM | Message Detail
Yeah, but Dante drew fewer votes himself, had a lower % and the match as a whole drew fewer votes in what so far has been a more popular year for the contest. You've not convincing me of much there, except that Vincent is going to beat the hell out of Dante, which I already knew.
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From: Sir Crono | Posted: 8/10/2005 12:24:36 AM | Message Detail
Not a year later, he got it in between 2003 and 2004.

The only problem is that it never looked like that, as he underperformed by 3% against Alucard. At best, he looked stable from 2003.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Contest 2005 Championship
Round 1: (7) Geno
From: cavedog0 | Posted: 8/10/2005 12:24:42 AM | Message Detail
Maybe its the fact that the X-Stats are, and always will be, off. You guys will just never admit it...
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From: Kagato Toujou | Posted: 8/10/2005 12:25:17 AM | Message Detail
Magus 54.4% 1502
Knuckles the Echidna 45.6% 1259
TOTAL VOTES 2761


O-ver-ray-ted.

*CLAP*CLAP*CLAP CLAP CLAP*
From: RPGGamer0 | Posted: 8/10/2005 12:25:27 AM | Message Detail
Magus 54.4% 1502
Knuckles the Echidna 45.6% 1259
TOTAL VOTES 2761

Heh.


~RPGGamer
From: mr_BRIAN | Posted: 8/10/2005 12:25:39 AM | Message Detail
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGH

I need to stop watching this >_>
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The King of all Cosmos' route to summer victory:
Round 1: (0) Voters
From: Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted: 8/10/2005 12:25:41 AM | Message Detail
Magus 54.4% 1502
Knuckles the Echidna 45.6% 1259
TOTAL VOTES 2761

Still going up!

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From: HaRRicH | Posted: 8/10/2005 12:25:44 AM | Message Detail
Boys, I'm tellin' ya, Knuckles is makin' my ****in' night right now.
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From: Lopen | Posted: 8/10/2005 12:25:49 AM | Message Detail
Magus can't get a decent lead. This is feeling like Knux/Kefka all over again. Knuckles for the win!
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Raiden fact of the contest: Alucard is a plagiarist, this year Raiden will prove it!
From: charmander6000 | Posted: 8/10/2005 12:25:51 AM | Message Detail
I'm tired, but I'm going to give this a try

Vincent just scored over 75k votes, almost 80k. We've established that only 8 characters have ever done that before.

Again anybody could do that given the right opponent and votes, but you got a point there.

If you wanted to argue that he would still lose to Magus I'd let you, but you're saying he'll lose to Dante.

I also say that Vincent is the favorite going into the match.

That's ridiculous, I'm sorry if I can't buy the idea that Kerrigan only beats 2-3 characters from the 2k4 bracket but it just wouldn't happen, not with a performance like that.

Again you're assuming, but for all I know she could be stronger then Freeman.

We'd know if he wasn't super stong and she was just uber weak, you know how? Th match wouldn't have broken 100k. Why in the world would Vincent beat Kerrigan as badly as Mario but still get a (slightly) higher vote total when the voters were more aware of this contest than any previous one? We know what it looks like when an uber loser steps into the ring (I hate saying this...) because of matches like Samus vs. Yuri where the powerhouse does what we think they should but the vote totals suffer just because the opposition is that bad.

First of all they are two completely different fanbases and FFVII ususally brings in the votes (Not so much with Aeris), but I really can't challenge you there. As for Samus vs. Yuri, sure he probably dropped a few k's, but I think it will mostly go to site traffic, again it's a lame excuse.

What you're doing here at this point is making yourself look like a newbie, and it's rather embarrasing, far more than missing a point for the last match in fact. Just stop.

I've seen people do much worse and with less information.
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I've been Pwned by KoaC. He really is the king of all cosmos.
From: Tinister | Posted: 8/10/2005 12:26:00 AM | Message Detail
Wait, how does this match relate to Snake/Zelda?
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From: yoblazer33 | Posted: 8/10/2005 12:26:07 AM | Message Detail
Magus isn't increasing his lead. This is amazing.
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Board 8: Where people treat each other right.
From: therealmnm | Posted: 8/10/2005 12:26:21 AM | Message Detail
Believe it or not, I'm looking to have a perfect Devil Division. ;)

Yeah yeah.... get your ass back in line! =P
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From: NewLib | Posted: 8/10/2005 12:26:26 AM | Message Detail
Yeah but he was overrated in 2003. Put G'Dorf stats close to Tidus's and he actually OVERPERFORMED by 7%
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Leon's Quest For Ultimate Glory:
1. Tripling Gordon Freeman.
From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 8/10/2005 12:26:30 AM | Message Detail
And since Knuckles is the king of the day vote, he may actually win this match fairly easily.

~*ST*~
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"If my fate is to be destroyed... I must simply laugh!" -Magus
From: creativename | Posted: 8/10/2005 12:27:05 AM | Message Detail
From: Team Rocket Elite | Posted: 8/10/2005 12:13:59 AM | Message Detail | #216
http://geocities.com/cyber1166/gamefaqs/03Summer/GanonVSMagusUpdates.txt
http://members.shaw.ca/teamrocketelite/GanondorfvsMagus.txt


Thanks TRE.

Magus had 54.39% 30 minutes into that match...but while Ganon is good with the day vote, Knuckles is the poster boy for it.

Magus is in deep trouble...this is shocking to me. I like others suspected an underperformance here, but I didn't think for a moment that Magus might lose the match.
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From: Eggplant Lord | Posted: 8/10/2005 12:27:21 AM | Message Detail
From: yoblazer33 | Posted: 8/10/2005 12:26:07 AM | #474
Magus isn't increasing his lead. This is amazing.

Uhh, yes, he is.

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From: NewLib | Posted: 8/10/2005 12:27:25 AM | Message Detail
Because it proves that 'Dorf was overranked in 2003 and that he did get the increase with Zelda and Link. That means the increase was mostly the reason why Zelda beat Vivi so bad.

Which means Zelda would challenge 2003 Snake much less 2004/2005 Snake.
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Leon's Quest For Ultimate Glory:
1. Tripling Gordon Freeman.
From: Sir Crono | Posted: 8/10/2005 12:27:49 AM | Message Detail
Yeah but he was overrated in 2003. Put G'Dorf stats close to Tidus's and he actually OVERPERFORMED by 7%

That's what I'm saying. Based on the 2003 stats, Ganondorf looked like he didn't move at all. If it turns out that the entire four-pack was overrated from the start, then that explains his supposed lack of boost in 2004.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Contest 2005 Championship
Round 1: (7) Geno
From: Haste2 | Posted: 8/10/2005 12:27:53 AM | Message Detail
I'm' sure cheating will be rather lopsided in this match...in Magus' favor, of course. >.< CJayC better keep an eye out...

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From: HaRRicH | Posted: 8/10/2005 12:28:31 AM | Message Detail
I'm just hopin' something screwy doesn't happen with the day-vote; all signs point to Knuckles ruling the day-vote...but all signs pointed to Magus owning the night vote pretty hardcore, too.
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From: TheCruelAngel | Posted: 8/10/2005 12:28:33 AM | Message Detail
I <3 this division.

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Warden: Talk! What is SeeD all about!?
Squall: ...Flower.
From: yoblazer33 | Posted: 8/10/2005 12:28:56 AM | Message Detail
He's increasing his lead by 10-20 votes per update. That's absolutely shocking for a guy who makes his living with this vote.
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Board 8: Where people treat each other right.
From: NewLib | Posted: 8/10/2005 12:29:15 AM | Message Detail
The only thing that could happen to make this division wackier is if Geno gave Squall a nail-bitter.
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Leon's Quest For Ultimate Glory:
1. Tripling Gordon Freeman.
From: Mister Mario | Posted: 8/10/2005 12:29:27 AM | Message Detail
Which means Ganon increased like a maniac.

Which is cool.

If Mario beats Samus, he wins the contest. CT smells.

Whoo!

Don't ask how I draw these conclusions. Mario wins, and that's what counts!
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Mario is Winnar
Next victim: Master Ness
From: RPGuy96 | Posted: 8/10/2005 12:29:47 AM | Message Detail
I was contemplating the idea that sprite pics for the CT crew really make a difference, similar to Kefka. It would account for an "overperformance" on Link by Magus, which helps resolve Magus, Ganondorf, Tidus and Sam Fisher. The same for Frog on Snake, which resolves Frog, MC, LS, and Crash. The only immediate flaw that I can find is that while Mario/Crono I was artwork, both Mario/Crono II and III were sprites, and Crono did noticeably better in III. If II was artwork as well, I'd be very inclined to believe this. I don't really have the wherewithal to look through other opponents, but this seems possible.
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From: Sir Crono | Posted: 8/10/2005 12:30:24 AM | Message Detail
The only thing that could happen to make this division wackier is if Geno gave Squall a nail-bitter.

After seeing this and how other pre-PSX Square characters not named Crono have done, I would bet on Geno being low.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Contest 2005 Championship
Round 1: (7) Geno
From: Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted: 8/10/2005 12:30:34 AM | Message Detail
Magus 54.26% 1739
Knuckles the Echidna 45.74% 1466
TOTAL VOTES 3205

I am truly shocked by this.

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From: mr_BRIAN | Posted: 8/10/2005 12:30:37 AM | Message Detail
...Maybe Snake SFFs Knuckles >_>
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The King of all Cosmos' route to summer victory:
Round 1: (0) Voters
From: yoblazer33 | Posted: 8/10/2005 12:30:44 AM | Message Detail
That seems damn possible at this point, RPGuy. Good stuff.
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Board 8: Where people treat each other right.
From: Lopen | Posted: 8/10/2005 12:30:46 AM | Message Detail
If Magus keeps 53% by the time the morning hits, I still think he'll win. Even I'm surprised by this, even though I've been calling the Tidus/Magus/Ganondorf triad overrated for months.

But, Magus seems to be stabilizing his %age a bit now.
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Raiden fact of the contest: Alucard is a plagiarist, this year Raiden will prove it!
From: Mister Mario | Posted: 8/10/2005 12:31:24 AM | Message Detail
Geno has higher affiliations with Nintendo than Square, at least in my mind.
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Mario is Winnar
Next victim: Master Ness
From: therealmnm | Posted: 8/10/2005 12:31:25 AM | Message Detail
Knuckles > All

"Born on an island in the heavens, the blood of my ancestors flows inside me. My duty is to guard the Master Emerald."
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From: DBZFIGHTERS | Posted: 8/10/2005 12:31:29 AM | Message Detail
Link would have been able to beat Knuckles.

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From: cavedog0 | Posted: 8/10/2005 12:31:31 AM | Message Detail
GO KNUX!!
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From: HaRRicH | Posted: 8/10/2005 12:31:37 AM | Message Detail
Knuckles, with or without 499 other characters, is greater than Magus.
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From: charmander6000 | Posted: 8/10/2005 12:31:42 AM | Message Detail
Dam contest getting weirder by the second.
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I've been Pwned by KoaC. He really is the king of all cosmos.
From: Crono801 | Posted: 8/10/2005 12:31:43 AM | Message Detail
Magus > Knuckles
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