Hey guys.. What do you guys predict the percentage will be of people having Vincent going to the second round?

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73.82% at the least.
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Kerrigan is a board creation. Vincent with over 80% prediction.
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I'm thinking obscenely high. Just like Terra, Kerrigan turned out to be nothing more than a board creation.
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From: ExquisiteSamurai | Posted: 8/9/2005 3:24:56 PM | #051
Hey guys.. What do you guys predict the percentage will be of people having Vincent going to the second round?

After Vivi-Zelda and Kefka-Vercetti, I really have no idea. It could be anywhere from 60 to 80.

And I love the way that people are booking Vincent into a match with Crono despite the fact we don't know how Kerrigan rates on the fodder scale.
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I think it's very safe to to think Crono > Vincent ..

But in 2006 when DoC comes out already, it might just be a possibility

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"Life...Dreams...Hope...Where'd they come from? And where are they headed...? These things...I'm going to destroy!!" -Kefka

The question must be asked: if this truly is just a taste of Vincent's strength, how much stronger than Aeris can he be?

Oh, and I remember many people stating they'd take Master Chief over Aeris in a rematch (this was from a few months ago). Question for you guys: Master Chief Vs. Aeris's big toe. Who wins?
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And Vincent just keeps going up. He could turn this into a quadrupling when all is said and done.
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"Thank you, Mario. But our princess is in another castle."
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I have always thought it ranked like this:

Aerith = Tifa > Vincent.. But now I am not sure at all of how it ranks..

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"Life...Dreams...Hope...Where'd they come from? And where are they headed...? These things...I'm going to destroy!!" -Kefka

Sarah Kerrigan 21.59% 6185
Vincent Valentine 78.41% 22457
TOTAL VOTES 28642

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"Life...Dreams...Hope...Where'd they come from? And where are they headed...? These things...I'm going to destroy!!" -Kefka

is it possable that vincents new game gave him a boost, or is this just general ff7 fandom? Personaly vincent is my second favorite ff7 character after barret, but his new game looks good as well so i can see it being a either or a combination of both.
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What ever happened to all the people that said Vincent better watch out against Dante, yesterday? You guys just jump from bandwagon to bandwagon. Just face Kerrigan is weak, I can't believe the board convinced me that she was at the VFL.
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I've already made two topics about my future predictions, but I'll post them in here just so you guys can book it:

1. Vincent will double Dante.

2. Tifa will beat Sonic.
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"Thank you, Mario. But our princess is in another castle."
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Today's match doesn't tell us anything, Tifa vs. Vyse will tell us more.
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Looks like Vincent won't be breaking 80%.. =( ..

His percentage is dropping..

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"Life...Dreams...Hope...Where'd they come from? And where are they headed...? These things...I'm going to destroy!!" -Kefka

It does make sense that Vincent wouldn't be just dominative with the day vote. I mean, he pretty much mauled her last night, it'd be crazy to see him to continue increasing like he was through the morning.

Admittedly, I expected him to continue, but it isn't to terribly surprising.

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Assuming Kerrigan=Vyse and Vincent ends up at around 78%, where does that place him at in the standings? Can someone do the math?
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"Thank you, Mario. But our princess is in another castle."
-Toad in Super Mario Bros.

I know it would have been hard for him to dominate the day vote but I really did want to see him break the 80% barrier..

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"Life...Dreams...Hope...Where'd they come from? And where are they headed...? These things...I'm going to destroy!!" -Kefka

38.64%
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He would end up right around Samus's 2004 value of 39.5%.

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Jesus. Champion contender, anyone?
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"Thank you, Mario. But our princess is in another castle."
-Toad in Super Mario Bros.

but I really did want to see him break the 80% barrier..

Oh believe me, I wanted to see it too. At the least, he should at least be able to increase a little more from here, or stay constant.

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Well, okay, I have extreme, extreme doubts that he'll be scaling Mount St. Crono, but hot damn he looks strong right now.
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"Thank you, Mario. But our princess is in another castle."
-Toad in Super Mario Bros.

And don't forget that Tifa will likely be stronger than Vincent.

FFVII is mind-boggingly strong in these things. o_o
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"Thank you, Mario. But our princess is in another castle."
-Toad in Super Mario Bros.

And don't forget that Tifa will likely be stronger than Vincent.

I very much doubt that. I think she'll be above Aeris, but I don't think she'll be stronger than Vincent.

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Right now Vincent has no where to go, but down, also does anyone think Kerrigan will take the 2nd night vote?
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I've been Pwned by KoaC. He really is the king of all cosmos.

Vincent is absolutely pummeling Kerrigan, even moreso than he was last night.


For those saying that this is a sign of Kerrigan being weak more than Vincent being strong, I'm gonna make a list of characters/games who's ever kept an opponent under 22% (I'm not gonna look at SFF matches, FYI):

Knuckles
Bomberman
Link
Sonic
Ryu
Mega Man
Sephiroth
Cloud
Mario
Crono
Solid Snake
SMB3
Final Fantasy
Legend of Zelda
Tetris
Chrono Trigger
Sonic 2
Super Mario World
LoZ: Link to the Past
Super Metroid
Final Fantasy 7
Goldeneye
Super Mario 64
LoZ: Ocarina of Time
Magus
Bowser
Dante
Samus
Liquid Snake
Ganondorf

Vincent looks to be joining that list. Aside for a very select few, that list is filled with some of the strongest characters in this contest and plenty of high mid-carders. For Vincent being the under-seeded one in this match as opposed to most of the characters on this list who got to face somebody higher-seeded, this can't look bad for Vincent. Besides, if nothing else, this is something Aeris has never done...and she faced TINA ARMSTRONG.
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i have a feeling this match will give post contest analysis writeups plenty to talk about
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Looks like I was right. I said Vincent would get 75%+ in this match, and will tear through his competition to what will either be narrow loss, or narrow victory against Magus.
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If Vincent wins his division, won't AC be out for his match with Crono?

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Summer 2005 Score: 20/21: Sarah Kerrigan vs Vincent Valentine

I don't think Tifa will be stronger than Vincent. I can't see any females being stronger than a male from the same game. -_-
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Sarah Kerrigan 21.65% 7200
Vincent Valentine 78.35% 26062
TOTAL VOTES 33262

My God...I wake up and it's even WORST then before. I can't believe this match was under any debate. I expected a doubling after the pic went up, but a near OUADRUPLING?! Not even in my wildest dreams.

GG Kerrigan.
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I can't see any females being stronger than a male from the same game. -_-

Well, Samus is several magnitudes stronger than Ridley.
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From: Shivan Reincarnated | Posted: 8/9/2005 9:17:44 AM | Message Detail
If Vincent wins his division, won't AC be out for his match with Crono?

yes, but i dont think that matters. I dount advent children will create any new vincent fans.
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If Vincent wins his division, won't AC be out for his match with Crono?

Yep. That would be something to see...

yes, but i dont think that matters. I dount advent children will create any new vincent fans.

Honestly, I would expect it to generate more fans than anyone else from that movie. Unlike some of the others, Vincent wasn't that prominent in Final Fantasy VII and his storyline wasn't given enough attention. But Square mentions that Vincent is one of the very prominent figures in Advent Children. He works as sort of a mentor to Cloud.

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Well, Samus is several magnitudes stronger than Ridley.

Yeah, but Samus gets votes because people think she's male, and she is the main character of the whole series.
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I know what I'm getting into, I don't care if I die trying!-Peppita Rossetti

I can't see any females being stronger than a male from the same game. -_-

Isn't that a bit sexist right there?

That is so worng I'm not even going to start.
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I've been Pwned by KoaC. He really is the king of all cosmos.

Nobody answered my question about Diablo 2 compared to Starcraft in a game contest, so I'm going to ask something else. Other mainstays of the Diablo series, like Baal or Deckard Cain, would they be as worthless as Kerrigan?
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Phediuk, does Ridley even have a gender? =p

From: Lopen | Posted: 8/9/2005 5:40:05 AM | Message Detail | #457
When Dante blows the hell out of Terra, it's because Terra's absolute trash, on the level of Ultros. When Vincent blows the hell out of Kerrigan, it's all Vincent.

I love this topic.

Looks like someone picked Dante to beat Vincent and is trying to make themselves feel better. Good luck with that.

And CRONO could not double Dante. Let's not get ahead of ourselves. Though this topic is really making me want to play FF7... again.

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Nobody answered my question about Diablo 2 compared to Starcraft in a game contest, so I'm going to ask something else. Other mainstays of the Diablo series, like Baal or Deckard Cain, would they be as worthless as Kerrigan?

Diablo 2 will probably be very similiar to Starcraft, but I would probably take Starcraft ftw.

Now for those characters, if they are part of the multiplayer then not as worthless, but pretty bad, but if they're not then yes.
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I've been Pwned by KoaC. He really is the king of all cosmos.

I'd still take Starcraft over Diablo 2, and I'd think any Diablo character not named Diablo would blow alot like Kerrigan is right now.
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I love all the people suddenly adjusting their views of Kerrigan's strength to fit into their crappy predictions.

Face it: Kerrigan is not weaker than JC Denton or Ulala. I personally think she's right around Vyse, which makes Vincent a champion contender.

Forget Dante; forget Magus; Crono should be ****ting his pants right about now.
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"Thank you, Mario. But our princess is in another castle."
-Toad in Super Mario Bros.

Yeah, but Crono increased every year since then. A rematch would probably go almost 70-30.
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Well, Samus is several magnitudes stronger than Ridley.

Is Ridley even a Male? I thought it was genderless?

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I wouldn't imagine any other Diablo characters being worth anything, to be quite honest.

And I'm interested in seeing how Magus does tomorrow, whether it's closer to 61.71% or 65.55%. The former is on adjusted Knuckles and the latter is on unadjusted Knuckles, both assume Magus is at his 2003 level.

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And anyone saying Vincent is a champion contender is an idiot.

Kerrigan is a PC character, has a horrible pic (and for her, that laoding screen pic was very important), and is getting bracket voted to hell and back. She's weak, and Vincent is just around Aeris' level.

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Today: Vincent Valentine vs. Sarah Kerrigan

And CRONO could not double Dante. Let's not get ahead of ourselves. Though this topic is really making me want to play FF7... again.

Perhaps you've missed the part where Vincent could very well give Crono a run for his money.
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From: AmazingKirby | Posted: 8/9/2005 10:18:17 AM | #081
I don't think Tifa will be stronger than Vincent. I can't see any females being stronger than a male from the same game. -_-

Yeah, I don't think someone like Rikku could ever beat someone like Kimahri either...
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Looks like someone picked Dante to beat Vincent and is trying to make themselves feel better. Good luck with that.

And CRONO could not double Dante. Let's not get ahead of ourselves. Though this topic is really making me want to play FF7... again.

Do you believe Kerrigan > Terra, but I have to agree even though I still think Dante has a chance Vincent has just become the favorite, now let's wait for Tifa vs. Vyse.
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Yeah, but Crono increased every year since then. A rematch would probably go almost 70-30.

Crono still isn't projected to beat Dante with more than 66% as of 2004.

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