If Vincent/Squall does happen I see Vincent SFFing Squall and winning pretty easily.

Agreed'd

Does Squall actualy have the power to topple Magus? ( crosses fingers)
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Woosh!

So who do you guys think is the bigger bomb in failing to meet their expected contest strength... Kuja or Kerrigan?

Kuja. Unlike Kerrigan, Kuja lost to a joke entry.
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Summer 2005 Contest - 20/22 points
Current Match Prediction: Magus vs. Knuckles the Echidna

Ok, I'm finally caught up. First things first: Let me take a good hearty laugh at at the current match results.

HAHAHAHAHA, GOOOO VINCENT!!!

Now that that's out of my system, back to discussion. I said during the spring contest that I would place Ansem over Kerrigan, and some of you (*cough* HM *cough*) called me crazy. Not so crazy any more, eh?

And anyone who thinks Dante stands a chance against Vincent is only kidding themselves in defense of their bracket. Wanting those points so badly blinds you to the obvious truth that Vincent is going to blow out Ulti-style (à la SSBM/MGS2) Dante at the very least. I'm quite worried at the moment of my Squall over Vincent pick, and I'm hoping that Kerrigan is even more fodderific than she looks, but Squall has a far greater chance of beating Vincent than Dante.

I'm calling Magus with 55% tomorrow. I really want to say BOOK IT, but I'll stick with "I think he'll probably do it, but I won't deny there's a decent chance he won't."

On another matter, I never thought Cloud in KH resembled Vincent until the board brought it up in the pre-spring contest musings. I can sort of see where you're coming from, but frankly I don't think the resemblance is great enough to cause Cloud's appearance in KH to give Vincent any sort of a boost whatsoever.
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FACT: Vincent didn't get a boost from KH

FACT: Vincent is strong because he's Vincent from Final Fantasy VII

FACT: Hype from AC and DoC boosts Vincent although not significant, but at least a lil..

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"Life...Dreams...Hope...Where'd they come from? And where are they headed...? These things...I'm going to destroy!!" -Kefka

And anyone who thinks Dante stands a chance against Vincent is only kidding themselves in defense of their bracket. Wanting those points so badly blinds you to the obvious truth that Vincent is going to blow out Ulti-style (à la SSBM/MGS2) Dante at the very least. I'm quite worried at the moment of my Squall over Vincent pick, and I'm hoping that Kerrigan is even more fodderific than she looks, but Squall has a far greater chance of beating Vincent than Dante.

Why because he blew away a board favorite character that we have no info on. We may as well call Dante/Vincent a first round match because we have no new info.
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Oh, there's certainly no reason to believe Vincent would somehow benefit from Cloud's design in KH. But he pretty much does share quite a few similarities. I noticed they looked similar the first time I saw him.

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We don't know for sure if Vincent > Dante from today's match.. Obviously it's because we have no info on Kerrigan or Terra.. Let's just wait and see round 2 when Dante versus Vincent and then rub it in all you want.. But yes, it is safer to claim, nothing more that Vincent > Dante

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"Life...Dreams...Hope...Where'd they come from? And where are they headed...? These things...I'm going to destroy!!" -Kefka

I noticed they looked similar the first time I saw him.

I did too.. When I first saw Cloud, I thought in my head "He looks like Vincent"

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"Life...Dreams...Hope...Where'd they come from? And where are they headed...? These things...I'm going to destroy!!" -Kefka

Come on Kerrigan get the night vote.
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I've been Pwned by KoaC. He really is the king of all cosmos.

Kerrigan won't be getting the night vote

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"Life...Dreams...Hope...Where'd they come from? And where are they headed...? These things...I'm going to destroy!!" -Kefka

*sees Vincent fell .01 from the last update*

Here comes that crazy night vote for Kerrigan!
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Kerrigan vs. Vincent - Bracket: Vincent - Vote: Vincent (19/21)

Some Koreans farted, and that gave Kerrigan a push.

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"Being a Hunter has to be the best job in the world! Well, next to pimp..."

I wonder when this topic will tire of humiliating Kerrigan and her supporters...
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Board 8: Where people treat each other right.

When Dante beats Vincent
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I've been Pwned by KoaC. He really is the king of all cosmos.

Magus vs. Knux .. What will Magus win by?

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"Life...Dreams...Hope...Where'd they come from? And where are they headed...? These things...I'm going to destroy!!" -Kefka

Poetic justice at its most brutal.
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I wonder when this topic will tire of humiliating Kerrigan and her supporters...

When they realize that they sound like jackasses. So, never.
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MasterMage119

I like charmander's answer way more though.
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MasterMage119

Kerrigan won't be getting the night vote

*hands you a sarcasm detector*
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From: ExquisiteSamurai | Posted: 8/9/2005 6:36:46 PM | Message Detail
Magus vs. Knux .. What will Magus win by?

At least 59%. Personally, I'm expecting over 60%.
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Summer 2005 Contest - 20/22 points
Current Match Prediction: Magus vs. Knuckles the Echidna

[This message was deleted at the request of the original poster]

*hands you a sarcasm detector*

*Hands you a I know and was just stating detector*

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You're wrong char, at 79.1% for Vincent if Kerrigan = JC Denton then you get a score of 30.85, .17 away from cn's Bowser and a full 1.1% ahead of Alucard.

It's not like we actually know Kerrigan's strength. She could be weaker than Gordon Freeman for all we know.
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MasterMage119

I wonder when this topic will tire of humiliating Kerrigan and her supporters...

Blame Vincent for humilating you guys.

When Dante beats Vincent

Good one.
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Kerrigan vs. Vincent - Bracket: Vincent - Vote: Vincent (19/21)

When they realize that they sound like jackasses. So, never.

It's not like people acting like complete jackasses whenever they're right about something trivial is something new to this board.
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Oops, redid the math and did make a mistake. Vincent would be ~ Alucard if Kerrigan = Denton. *sighs* I'm inattentive.
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Yep, we sure sound like jackasses for being happy that one of our favorite characters finally got into a contest and is whipping the ass of an overhyped board creation that never had any chance of winning in the first.

~*ST*~
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"If my fate is to be destroyed... I must simply laugh!" -Magus

What would adjusted and unadjusted 2K4 Magus get on Knuckles?

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SC2k5: 20/21 (Curse you Ness!)
Today: Vincent Valentine vs. Sarah Kerrigan

It's not like people acting like complete jackasses whenever they're right about something trivial is something new to this board.

Yeah, but I've never really noticed the extent some people will go to make themselves feel good.
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MasterMage119

Yep, we sure sound like jackasses for being happy that one of our favorite characters finally got into a contest and is whipping the ass of an overhyped board creation that never had any chance of winning in the first.

BUMP!
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MasterMage119

People who were aggressively saying that anybody who doubted Kerrigan was in for it have no right to call anybody a jackass now. Seriously, that's just sad.

As Master Moltar said, blame Vincent. And Kerrigan herself.
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Yeah AOA we're all jackasses when you made a topic declaring Kerrigan would beat Vincent. Kerrigan got owned and so did you. Get over it.

People who were aggressively saying that anybody who doubted Kerrigan was in for it have no right to call anybody a jackass now. Seriously, that's just sad.

I didn't say anyone who doubted Kerrigan was "in for it." The closest thing was probably when I said, "No. Just... no." in that one topic you made.
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MasterMage119

I have a better idea. Let's blame all 59,210 people that didn't vote for Rikku.
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Yeah AOA we're all jackasses when you made a topic declaring Kerrigan would beat Vincent. Kerrigan got owned and so did you. Get over it.

Dot. Dot. Dot.

That was a match analysis, not an arrogant declaration that Kerrigan was 100% guaranteed to beat Vincent with utter ease.
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Yep, we sure sound like jackasses for being happy that one of our favorite characters finally got into a contest and is whipping the ass of an overhyped board creation that never had any chance of winning in the first.

Yes, you really do. Not you specifically, but a good deal of other people. Being happy that vincent is destroying kerrigan, and screaming "LOL in ur FACE VINCENT PWNS J00!" repeatidly are two completely seperate things. Reminds me of when starcraft always fell behind during the day and retook the lead at night except not quite as bad.
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The closest thing was probably when I said, "No. Just... no." in that one topic you made.

Uh, that was your topic. I never made any topic about this match. (I actually rarely make topics at all)
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Yep, we sure sound like jackasses for being happy that one of our favorite characters finally got into a contest and is whipping the ass of an overhyped board creation that never had any chance of winning in the first.

Nothing wrong with expressing joy at a beloved character's success, but the way most of us have been acting is unbecoming of Stats and Board veterans, at least in my view. What I've seen for the last 18 hours is the equivalence of the 1992 Dream Team crushing the Algerians by 70 points, walking up to their bench, and yelling "PWNED! OMG PWNED WE SO CALLED THIS!" I just think we're above that.
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You're upset because people are making fun of your analysis topic? If you were going to be pissed off in the event of being wrong and getting it rubbed in your face, you shouldn't have written that in the first place.

~*ST*~
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"If my fate is to be destroyed... I must simply laugh!" -Magus

You're upset because people are making fun of your analysis topic? If you were going to be pissed off in the event of being wrong and getting it rubbed in your face, you shouldn't have written that in the first place.

Not exactly. It's just that when you whine like a baby about people bringing up the fact that you got DK vs Vivi wrong, it seems a wee bit hypocritical to try and make fun of someone for a whole day when they put some thought into a match and end up being wrong. I'd care a lot less if you bashed me for the first hour or so, and then dropped it.
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Yes, you really do. Not you specifically, but a good deal of other people. Being happy that vincent is destroying kerrigan, and screaming "LOL in ur FACE VINCENT PWNS J00!"

OK, big time pet peeve of time: when people act like those disagreeing with them are talking like children. That is just so immature.

And the only thing we've been saying is how irrational it was to expect this match to be close in the first place. Can you honestly doubt that? I mean for god's sake, look at the score man!
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LOL in ur FACE VINCENT PWNS J00!

PWNED! OMG PWNED WE SO CALLED THIS!
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Really, I wouldn't take any of this "In your face!" or whatever type comments personally. That's only natural when you predict something and argue it to the point where you just KNOW you're right. Hell, I've been through a ton of crap from other people before about getting matches wrong.

It only lasts for a day, but it's to be expected when you get a match wrong and made sure that you had an opinion every time an argument about the match came up. Sometimes you're right, sometimes you're wrong.

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Uh, that was your topic. I never made any topic about this match. (I actually rarely make topics at all)

It was? Hm... Well, regardless, that was the closest thing to saying anyone was in for anything. Hell, straight from my analysis:

"Well, I%u2019m of the opinion that Vincent and Kerrigan will end up having a close match, in true Starcraft style. I also feel that Kerrigan will end up squeaking by with a win."

"So overall, I expect a close match that will start with Kerrigan doing well, continue with Vincent taking the lead, and end with a Kerrigan comeback. No matter what happens though, it will be a great match."

Those don't sound like arrogant declarations of unrivaled superiority to me.
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MasterMage119

It's just that when you whine like a baby about people bringing up the fact that you got DK vs Vivi wrong

Oh please, teasing you for a day is a lot different from some idiot bringing up a meaningless match from a year ago for the sole purpose of trolling and you know it. You made a stupid pick with stupid reasons. Get over yourself.

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"If my fate is to be destroyed... I must simply laugh!" -Magus

ChichiriMuyo > all stats topic posters.

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"If my fate is to be destroyed... I must simply laugh!" -Magus

Nothing wrong with expressing joy at a beloved character's success, but the way most of us have been acting is unbecoming of Stats and Board veterans, at least in my view. What I've seen for the last 18 hours is the equivalence of the 1992 Dream Team crushing the Algerians by 70 points, walking up to their bench, and yelling "PWNED! OMG PWNED WE SO CALLED THIS!" I just think we're above that.

That more or less sums it up nicely. Some people just seem to act incredibly childish whenever their right about any of these matches. A simple ribbing given to someone incredibly vocal towards a match isn't a big deal, and is all in good fun, but some of these people are going out of their way to piss everyone off so they can feel better about themselves. It's kind of pathetic. The actual vets on this topic haven't gone much beyond a normal ribbing for the most part though, it's mainly the rest of the board that seems to be acting very childish.
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The King of all Cosmos' route to summer victory:
Round 1: (0) Voters

Rikku > Ryu
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