Scary thing is that I think Tifa could still be stronger overall. She has a prominent role in the game and is still liked by most that have played FF7. She even has TJF going for her. ><
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From: yoblazer33 | Posted: 8/9/2005 3:19:20 AM | Message Detail | #134
I am once again left absolutely floored at the power of Final Fantasy VII.

At this site, we have to remember this above all else: "Never underestimate Final Fantasy VII or The Legend of Zelda" :)

And FF7 is less top-heavy than The Legend of Zelda.
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HM, if you plan on leaving me to start posting in the stats topic, tell me next time. I don't like waiting around for you to show up.

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I do think that it will be Dante > Vincent > Squall > Magus. Yeah, I know, crazy. You'll see tomorrow... I'm really looking forward to Knuckles giving Magus way more pressure than he "should".
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Dante will get 45% at MOST on Vincent. Mark my words.

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"If my fate is to be destroyed... I must simply laugh!" -Magus

Sarah Kerrigan 25.13% 769
Vincent Valentine 74.87% 2291
TOTAL VOTES 3060

One final update before I head off to bed. Keep up the good work Vincent!

And Magus better impress somewhere, because I am now worries about my pick.
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Kerrigan vs. Vincent - Bracket: Vincent - Vote: Vincent (19/21)

I'll take up for Lopen here; I also think Terra > Kerrigan. Regardless, this remains mighty impressive and helps me stick with Vincent > Dante. Not sold on Vincent > Magus yet; I'll wait for the end of the second round before I comment on that though.
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And yeah, I have Dante winning... the ego boost I got yesterday was really fun, but Vincent isn't playing either.
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More than anything else, I'm hoping that Magus overperforms and Squall absolutely demolishes Geno. How amazing would the second round of this division be if all four winners overperform beyond our expectations?
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From: Lopen | Posted: 8/9/2005 3:20:42 AM | Message Detail | #143
Now if Vincent gets up to 77-80%+, I'll really doubt that Dante has a chance. But even then, nothing's for certain.

We're not talking about certainty, we're talking about who the favorite is.


From: therealmnm | Posted: 8/9/2005 3:21:57 AM | Message Detail | #146
Ulti has the master plan. He makes a topic about a match in which the result is fairly obvious to us, but the board is somewhat oblivious to, and then the rest of the board proceeds to worship him.

Bingo :)


From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 8/9/2005 3:24:32 AM | Message Detail | #155
Dante will get 45% at MOST on Vincent. Mark my words.

I agree.

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by the way does this make vincent look like a powerhouse or a strong midcarder?
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And I'm going to go ahead and throw my full support behind Vincent. I hope he and Tifa go far.
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For the final day... Kerrigan, you have failed me.

What would be the possibilities of something like Vincent = Sephiroth?
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Tifa vs. Sonic is looking real iffy right now.

And HM, I was with you on Vincent being at Mario's level next year :) He might not be far off at all right now.
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More than anything else, I'm hoping that Magus overperforms and Squall absolutely demolishes Geno. How amazing would the second round of this division be if all four winners overperform beyond our expectations?

It would be a first for a division, as we've had more impressive losers than winners so far.

I don't want Magus to overperform though. Knuckles all the way, baby!
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Round 1: (7) Geno

Dante will get 45% at MOST on Vincent. Mark my words.

Why until Terra could beat Kerrigan by more then 60% if Vincent = Dante then I still think Dante can win.
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I've been Pwned by KoaC. He really is the king of all cosmos.

And I'm going to go ahead and throw my full support behind Vincent. I hope he and Tifa go far.

It would really be something if they knocked out Crono and Megaman and end up facing each other in the Final Four...
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*Claims KG's Eclair & Millia Rage*

I have Tifa > Sonic in my bracket!

I'd be amazed if it turns out that I'm not crazy.
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What would be the possibilities of something like Vincent = Sephiroth?

Highly unlikely, though he could potentially be close.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Contest 2005 Championship
Round 1: (7) Geno

What would be the possibilities of something like Vincent = Sephiroth?

Heh, we're starting to get ahead of ourselves now. Vincent is pushing for 75% here, not 85. =P
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Board 8: Where people treat each other right.

can vincent be the third strongest FF7 character? can he even be at ganondorf's level?
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Yeah, so what would Sephiroth be projected to get on Dante, using Dante's strongest year?
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It would really be something if they knocked out Crono and Megaman and end up facing each other in the Final Four...

That would be something indeed. I wonder if there'd be any SFF though. Cloud/Sephy didn't seem to have any either time.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Contest 2005 Championship
Round 1: (7) Geno

Sarah Kerrigan 24.99% 871
Vincent Valentine 75.01% 2615
TOTAL VOTES 3486


Aaaaaand....TRIPLED!
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Bam. Tripled.
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It would really be something if they knocked out Crono and Megaman and end up facing each other in the Final Four...

I don't know who would be happier, HM or Vlado.
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And HM, I was with you on Vincent being at Mario's level next year :) He might not be far off at all right now.

Definitely! I think we're going to see Vincent ranking pretty damn high even without Dirge of Cerberus or Advent Children. I cannot wait to see that...

And damn it feels good knowing that trying to get a character in for two years pays off when that very character has some solid strength.

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Yeah, so what would Sephiroth be projected to get on Dante, using Dante's strongest year?

Around 28.5%.
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2004 Sephiroth would be expected to get 69.68% on 2003 Dante (his strongest year). Sp2K5 Sephiroth would be expected to get 67.17% on 2003 Dante.
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Round 1: (7) Geno

I can't believe he's still going up...Tifa is looking pretty good right about now.
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From: LordOfDabu | Posted: 8/9/2005 3:28:07 AM | Message Detail | #168
I have Tifa > Sonic in my bracket!

I'd be amazed if it turns out that I'm not crazy.

Tifa>Sonic was never crazy. (Tifa>Mega Man wasn't all that crazy either, for that matter; unlikely I think, but not crazy)

I only thought about putting Tifa>Sonic for a few moments before deciding against it, but it was never crazy. From a game theory/risk vs. return perspective, I always thought it was a wise choice.
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Wait, that's what Dante would be projected to get on Sephiroth. Hopefully I didn't screw with your brain for a second. =P
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if AC and DoC come out would vincent be a potential threat to the lower part of the noble nine?
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2004 Sephiroth would be expected to get 69.68% on 2003 Dante (his strongest year). Sp2K5 Sephiroth would be expected to get 67.17% on 2003 Dante.


Yeah...I see that a little tough for Vincent to manage next round...
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There is enough room between Aeris and Sonic for Tifa to fit in I'm hoping. Besides, like I said in an earlier post, Tifa may beat a lesser character (like Luigi) bad enough to make it look like she can give Sonic a run, but I still don't think she would make enough people vote her over Sonic.

I don't agree with the linearity and transitivity that the X-stats live off of. Of course Tifa may very well be up there past Sonic in popularity... I'm just hoping that she isn't. <_<
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if AC and DoC come out would vincent be a potential threat to the lower part of the noble nine?

He might be already, for all we know.
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Round 1: (7) Geno

For those thinkin' Kerrigan = Diablo, Vincent ranks at 37.04% on Link 2k3...between Sonic and Mario.

For those thinkin' Vincent = Aeris, Kerrigan ranks at 15.63% on Link 2k3...between Laharl and Ultros.
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if AC and DoC come out would vincent be a potential threat to the lower part of the noble nine?

I think he already IS a potential threat to the lower Noble Nine.
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Vincent putting up over 60% on Dante would make my day. By doing that on Dante from 2004, it puts him right at Magus's 2004 adjusted level.

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so optional character really are strong. wonder who said it would hurt them
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Kilroy:There fate will be in each other's hands as they decide whether to share or to shaft

if AC and DoC come out would vincent be a potential threat to the lower part of the noble nine?

Vincent is already ready to bust that door down. With AC and DC, he'll deep in there.

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For those thinkin' Vincent = Aeris, Kerrigan ranks at 15.63% on Link 2k3...between Laharl and Ultros.

Heh, so that would mean Terra and Kerrigan are relatively equal.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Contest 2005 Championship
Round 1: (7) Geno

Sarah Kerrigan 24.65% 960
Vincent Valentine 75.35% 2934
TOTAL VOTES 3894


God, he just keeps climbing during SC's strongest time!
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"Opinions are like butts, little girl. Everyone's got one and nobody thinks their's stink." -Lunar 2:EB
*Claims KG's Eclair & Millia Rage*

Sarah Kerrigan 24.65% 960
Vincent Valentine 75.35% 2934
TOTAL VOTES 3894

He just keeps on increasing.

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*listens to Black Mages version of Those Who Fight Further*

If Vincent and Tifa take their divisions, there will be some extremely disgruntled FFVII Antifanboys. It'll be fun to laugh at them.
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For the final day... Kerrigan, you have failed me.

Would a quadrupling be too much to ask?
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*Claims KG's Eclair & Millia Rage*

Vincent beating Magus would make my contest. I would give up my bracket to see that.

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so optional character really are strong. wonder who said it would hurt them

*raises hand* One of the many, one of the many. I still thought/think he'd get to the Sweet Sixteen here though.
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Vincent wins the division if he breaks 60% on Dante.

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"If my fate is to be destroyed... I must simply laugh!" -Magus