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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 191
From: Master Moltar | Posted: 8/8/2005 2:24:29 PM | Message Detail
I was kinda hoping Ceej would put up Mario/Ness just to see what the theme was.

Same, I expected a teaser Round 2 pic, but was very dissappointed in the end.
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From: King Morgoth | Posted: 8/8/2005 2:26:02 PM | Message Detail
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From: The Doppleganger | Posted: 8/8/2005 2:26:59 PM | Message Detail
Round 2's theme will be Sprites and younger pics <_<
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From: Draco1214 | Posted: 8/8/2005 2:28:13 PM | Message Detail
I just looked at the rest of the Round 1 pics. Kerrigan's done.
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Summer 2005 Contest - 19/21 points
Current Match Prediction: Sarah Kerrigan vs. Vincent Valentine
From: The Doppleganger | Posted: 8/8/2005 2:29:10 PM | Message Detail
What the hell is so bad about Kerrigan's pic? Seriously people?
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From: Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted: 8/8/2005 2:29:13 PM | Message Detail
Why don't you just shut up for once instead of acting like an ass, it'd be nice for everybody around here.

I will act however I please, thank you. I am free to express whatever feeling I want. I don't care if you are upset that you picked Kerrigan and hate the picture she got. I didn't even expect her to get that picture. But I have argued this match enough that any advantage that Vincent gets I'm going to be happy.

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From: MegatokyoEd | Posted: 8/8/2005 2:30:23 PM | Message Detail
I'm sad Kerrigan got that picture. Now all the Kerrigan fanboys will whine she lost because she didin't get the Brood War pic.
From: yoblazer33 | Posted: 8/8/2005 2:31:08 PM | Message Detail
I think that was a bit harsh, Morgoth, especially for someone who, from what I see, did nothing to deserve it.
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From: Sir Crono | Posted: 8/8/2005 2:33:25 PM | Message Detail
At the 14:30 mark, this match has 68,032 votes.

Ness/CJ - 69,428
Kratos/Alucard - 63,883
Kefka/Vercetti - 65,013
Crono/Zidane - 65,825

Looks like it's gonna cut it close to 100,000 but fall short.
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From: therealmnm | Posted: 8/8/2005 2:34:25 PM | Message Detail
Agrees with HM...
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From: King Morgoth | Posted: 8/8/2005 2:35:34 PM | Message Detail
I think that was a bit harsh, Morgoth, especially for someone who, from what I see, did nothing to deserve it.

It was more of a prize for his career (including directly calling me insane quite a bunch of times, while I never started jumping at him with SC>WW or MH>Kuja), than specifically for those last 2-3 comments actually. And no I didn't think Kerrigan would win even with her Brood War pick, but I live in Canada and felt like supporting her with my bracket too, and there's no reason to start dancing around being an ass only because he feels like it.

I'd like to be able to expect more from him anyway...
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From: King Morgoth | Posted: 8/8/2005 2:36:53 PM | Message Detail
I'm sad Kerrigan got that picture. Now all the Kerrigan fanboys will whine she lost because she didin't get the Brood War pic.
At least she could have kept it close with the BW pic, this could end in an awful massacre.
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From: Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted: 8/8/2005 2:38:06 PM | Message Detail
If you think me making a comment about how I like Vincent/Kerrigan's match picture is me being an ass. You go right ahead. Like I said, I, quite frankly, do not give a **** if you have this ridiculous idea that I'm being an ass based on what I have said.

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From: dragoontheguy | Posted: 8/8/2005 2:38:18 PM | Message Detail
People really shouldn't be angry at kerrigan's pic just because it's not the one they were hoping for. It really isn't that bad.
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From: Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted: 8/8/2005 2:46:37 PM | Message Detail
But for the record, if I am being an ass, feel free to call me one -- that goes for just about anybody who wants to. However, what I did here was not being an ass. I never even said anything to Kerrigan supporters; I was merely commenting on how much I enjoyed the picture because of its benefit toward Vincent.

Yeah. That's about all I will say on the subject.




Dammit! I just spilled crap all over my desk.

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From: Sir Crono | Posted: 8/8/2005 2:47:43 PM | Message Detail
I think the real issue is...Why did you have a cup full of crap near your desk in the first place?
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From: creativename | Posted: 8/8/2005 2:48:16 PM | Message Detail
I'm am very pissed at Kerrigan's sucky pic, because now everyone is going to up their Oracle prediction for Vincent.

When she would've gotten smashed no matter what. I was looking forward to gaining ground here.

Kerrigan is, simply put, going to be a chump.


And that Pac-Man picture makes me slightly concerned for Ocelot...that match might be quite close. Ocelot should still win, but it isn't for certain.

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From: yoblazer33 | Posted: 8/8/2005 2:49:24 PM | Message Detail
It was more of a prize for his career (including directly calling me insane quite a bunch of times

HM's called my theories (and myself, I'm pretty sure) insane on more than one occasion. I usually just smile, nod, and wait for his own prediction to backfire in a wonderfully hilarious way. He's almost like Amazing Telephone's rendition of Gordon Freeman in this sense. =P
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From: creativename | Posted: 8/8/2005 2:51:09 PM | Message Detail
Well HM, you do have to admit you have a tendency to get on people's nerves sometimes.

While that seemed too much for that comment, as a "lifetime achievement award" as King Morgoth implied, it's not that bad ;)
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From: creativename | Posted: 8/8/2005 2:53:17 PM | Message Detail
Oh, and Kratos should be stronger than Lloyd. His character model seems much more appealing.

Though Diablo will still win comfortably.
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From: Draco1214 | Posted: 8/8/2005 2:55:30 PM | Message Detail
I've been on the Ocelot/Pac-Man being close bandwagon since day one, and I'm not backing out now. Ocelot will win with less than 53%.
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Summer 2005 Contest - 19/21 points
Current Match Prediction: Sarah Kerrigan vs. Vincent Valentine
From: MegatokyoEd | Posted: 8/8/2005 2:56:34 PM | Message Detail
I agree with you Draco but only because has the Old Ocelot pic.
From: Sir Crono | Posted: 8/8/2005 2:56:43 PM | Message Detail
Well, I've been a proponent of Luigi "SFFing" Pac-Man since last summer after seeing the ridiculous disparity between Kefka and him after only one year. I think it'll be close, but Ocelot should still pull it out without having to sweat over it.
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From: creativename | Posted: 8/8/2005 2:57:45 PM | Message Detail
Even if you don't want to call what Luigi did SFF, I for one wouldn't trust Pac-Man's ranking based off of that match very much.
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From: Draco1214 | Posted: 8/8/2005 3:04:12 PM | Message Detail
To tell you the truth, I wouldn't be surprised in the least if Pac-Man upsets Ocelot.
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Summer 2005 Contest - 19/21 points
Current Match Prediction: Sarah Kerrigan vs. Vincent Valentine
From: sidharta | Posted: 8/8/2005 3:05:27 PM | Message Detail
Looks like whoever said that "FF chars prior to FF VII isn't cut out for popularity" knows what he's talking about.

I'm expecting Dante to comfortably double Terra at best, but for him to actually break 70% on her... not even in my wildest dreams.

With the pic Kerrigan got, I'm expecting Vincent to break 60% with ease, though doubling her would be a longshot.

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From: Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted: 8/8/2005 3:20:55 PM | Message Detail
I think the real issue is...Why did you have a cup full of crap near your desk in the first place?

Well, it was this ice cream chocolate bar thing and it smeared over the desk. But I managed to clean it up without too much trouble.

HM's called my theories (and myself, I'm pretty sure) insane on more than one occasion. I usually just smile, nod, and wait for his own prediction to backfire in a wonderfully hilarious way. He's almost like Amazing Telephone's rendition of Gordon Freeman in this sense. =P

Hey, I'm sure we all think each other is crazy at different times. I just happen to make sure that other person knows exactly what I think of what they say whenever I disagree. It's nothing someone should take personally, it's just that some of you, myself included, can make off the wall predictions that will mostly end up being so very wrong. Heh.

Well HM, you do have to admit you have a tendency to get on people's nerves sometimes.

I'm pretty sure we all can get on each others nerves from time to time. After all, as much as some of us want to believe we're unbiased or being rational about something, many times we'll be completely irrational and biased. When we argue over something, I'm sure we'd always like to have our particular point proven right.

But, in this particular instance, I'm not sure just what it was that was "annoying." I didn't say anything negative to Kerrigan supporters or even say that Kerrigan was screwed. I merely said that I loved the match picture, for reasons that should be obvious to anyone.

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From: LuniNutz99 | Posted: 8/8/2005 3:23:33 PM | Message Detail
You sir are an ASS. There, I said it. :P
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j/k - <3 YOU HM! Vincent for the win!

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From: Sir Crono | Posted: 8/8/2005 3:26:42 PM | Message Detail
Hmmmm....Dante's taking the day vote from Terra, too. Apparently old Square is general is just bad with it.
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From: cyko | Posted: 8/8/2005 3:35:53 PM | Message Detail
alright, lots of pics!! my thoughts as i look through them for the first time:

http://www.gamefaqs.com/shared/sum05/b22.jpg


W...T...F..... is that even Kerrigan? ....... XD!!!!

wow. that is awful. that's right up there behind Lettuce Kefka and Immodium Ghaleon. and Vincent got exactly the pic i thought he would. very nice.

http://www.gamefaqs.com/shared/sum05/b23.jpg


nothing out of the ordinary. Magus looks cool as usual and like he's about to decapitate Knuckles. and Knux looks okay.

http://www.gamefaqs.com/shared/sum05/b24.jpg

as much as i hate Squall, that is a very good pic. and that's really the only pic of Geno in existence.

http://www.gamefaqs.com/shared/sum05/b25.jpg

Sonic looks a little weird..... and i guess Jin looks like Jin. *shrugs*

http://www.gamefaqs.com/shared/sum05/b26.jpg

not bad. although it would be nice to see a Tales of Symphonia character with an expression on his face. actually, Diablo looks like he's got his hand up Kratos's back and is using him as a puppet.

http://www.gamefaqs.com/shared/sum05/b27.jpg

holy melons, Batman!! man, Tifa is hot. even with a face shot, she still gets her massive bazooms in the pic. Vyse looks pretty cool, too, but: funbags >>>>>>>> swords. this is a really good match pic.

http://www.gamefaqs.com/shared/sum05/b28.jpg

oh..... but no robotic cleavage for KOS-MOS. her pic last year was better. and why is Luigi picking his nose? >_>


http://www.gamefaqs.com/shared/sum05/b29.jpg


average pic of Megaman and actually a cool pic of Conker. not bad.

http://www.gamefaqs.com/shared/sum05/b30.jpg

why are Gordon's glasses fogged up? and man, he already looks defeated in that pic. it's as if Gordon is hanging his head in shame and sayiny, "yeah, yeah, i know. Gordon Freeman Never Wins....."

at least Leon looks pretty decent.

http://www.gamefaqs.com/shared/sum05/b31.jpg


meh. i don't really care for this pic. Yoshi's cheeks are huge, and Laharl kinda looks like an angry fairy.

http://www.gamefaqs.com/shared/sum05/b32.jpg

i never really liked the MGS artwork and that includes Ocelot here. and Pac-Man, well, he looks really happy.

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From: Applekidjosh | Posted: 8/8/2005 3:41:04 PM | Message Detail
Well it seems that Kerrigan stuff is official Blizzard artwork.

http://www.blizzard.com/broodwar/heroes/kerr.shtml

I'll stop complaining about it, but I am very disappointed that we've lost a potentially close match like this.
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From: LeonhartForever | Posted: 8/8/2005 3:43:31 PM | Message Detail
If it was potentially close before, Vincent won't blow her out. If he crushes her from the start, it won't matter.
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From: seeraamaazu | Posted: 8/8/2005 3:44:50 PM | Message Detail
Is Kerrigan really that bad? I mean, Kerri wasn't the looker in the first place..
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From: cyko | Posted: 8/8/2005 3:47:20 PM | Message Detail
btw - all of these comments on the pics gave me more than a hearty chuckle. X friggin D.

From: Master Moltar | Posted: 8/8/2005 4:53:08 PM | Message Detail | #024

http://www.gamefaqs.com/shared/sum05/b30.jpg

Gordon already knows he's going to lose...so sad.

From: yoblazer33 | Posted: 8/8/2005 4:53:48 PM | Message Detail | #026

http://www.gamefaqs.com/shared/sum05/b27.jpg

I WANNA SQUEEZE EM!

From: Tediz247 | Posted: 8/8/2005 4:57:13 PM | Message Detail | #032

http://www.gamefaqs.com/shared/sum05/b30.jpg

...Gordon looks like he wants Leon to kill him.

From: therealmnm | Posted: 8/8/2005 5:06:37 PM | Message Detail | #041

http://www.gamefaqs.com/shared/sum05/b32.jpg

WTF? Ocelot looks like Santa Claus, minus the beard. Pac-Man DOMINATES the pic. If he ever actually had a chance to beat Ocelot, this would be it...


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From: Vile Requiem | Posted: 8/8/2005 3:48:30 PM | Message Detail
http://www.gamefaqs.com/shared/sum05/b28.jpg

Luigi looks like an Italian Pimp in that pic. I love it.
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From: Applekidjosh | Posted: 8/8/2005 3:48:31 PM | Message Detail
There's a difference between a bad pic, like a frightened Luigi or something, and a pic that looks nothing at all like the character (or at least how the average voting fan envisions and remembers the character)

See Lettuce Kefka, Solid ****, and now Purple Kerrigan
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From: Heroic_Cable | Posted: 8/8/2005 3:51:05 PM | Message Detail
Cjayis sick of Blizzard screwing up his brackets and used that pic to laugh at Kerriganas she gets killed round 1.
From: dragoontheguy | Posted: 8/8/2005 3:51:14 PM | Message Detail
I think that pic of cecil also qualifies in that catagory.
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From: charmander6000 | Posted: 8/8/2005 3:51:18 PM | Message Detail
Match 22: (4) Sarah Kerrigan vs. (5) Vincent Valentine

Past Performances

Sarah Kerrigan


Summer 2002
Did not attend
Ranked: N/A

Summer 2003
Did not attend
Ranked: N/A

Summer 2004
Did not attend
Ranked: N/A

Spring 2005
Did not attend
Ranked: N/A

Vincent Valentine

Summer 2002
Did not attend
Ranked: N/A

Summer 2003
Did not attend
Ranked: N/A

Summer 2004
Did not attend
Ranked: N/A

Spring 2005
Did not attend
Ranked: N/A

Analysis

This is the first and last time we’re going to see a newbie vs. newbie match this contest. CJayC had a great sense of humor putting two of board 8’s most nominated characters against each other in the first round. I feel that the board has overestimated both of these characters and if anyone thinks this is going to be a nail biter better wait because this isn’t going to be close.

First we have Sarah Kerrigan from Starcraft and Starcraft: Brood Wars. Even though she’s not in the multiplayer she is from the campaign missions, but not all of them. I think that Kerrigan will be weaker just because she isn’t from the multiplayer. Starcraft just isn’t one of those games where people play the missions; they liked it because of the multiplayer. I know with the game out already for many years’ people would eventually play the missions, but that probably wouldn’t help her too much. I would take many things such as Carriers and Battle Cruisers over Kerrigan.

Vincent is from the game the made GameFAQs, Final Fantasy VII. Vincent is a fan favorite character, but that doesn’t always get you the votes. Vincent is probably one of the most overrated characters in this contest. I can see how people having him over Kerrigan and even Dante, but I have no reason to believe that Vincent will be able to beat Magus. That would put him over Aeris and most likely Tifa and I don’t see that happening. Why, well you’ve probably heard me say this many times, but it’s because he’s optional. I know it’s not that hard to get him and the game has been out for years, but that can still be enough to put him below two characters that you will always get and are fairly popular. Another thing is that Vincent isn’t part of the story of Final Fantasy VII and is really only there to fight. Where he ranks, well I’ll get to that next round.

From what I hear Vincent is getting a new game plus he’ll be in the new Final Fantasy movie that is coming out next month. I don’t think these things will help him for one reason, they haven’t come out yet! I do expect him to gain once those are out, but until then the only people that really know about this and who’s in it and what’s happening are hardcore Final Fantasy fans (Even though this site does have some it won’t help him as much as you think).

If anybody remembered when Starcraft and Diablo had their matches there was spamming across the internet at blizzard sites. The same will happen to Kerrigan. The question now becomes on how many sites will be announcing the match. I think it will be something more or less like Starcraft except it won’t be as bad as it.
From: charmander6000 | Posted: 8/8/2005 3:51:46 PM | Message Detail
Kerrigan might benefit if she got the picture that was on Brood Wars. Like CATS with his face shot Kerrigan might get a two or so percent boost against Vincent because people will notice the picture and say “Isn’t that person from Starcraft?” just like they said “Isn’t he from All Your Base?”. But it seems like she’s not going to get that picture and she got the picture that I thought she would get (which isn’t shown at anytime during the game) too bad it wasn’t like this match was going to be close anyways.

So it’s the battle of the board favorites and I can see why we like them. I think Vincent might be the board favorite because of the bracket support. After the first 15 minutes of the poll I don’t think there’s going to be much percent change since both Square and Blizzard have the same voting patterns, but Kerrigan will be the favorite at night and Vincent will be the favorite during the day.

charmnader6000’s Bracket: Vincent Valentine over Sarah Kerrigan

charmander6000’s Prediction: Vincent wins, 64.52% - 35.48%
From: andaca | Posted: 8/8/2005 3:54:37 PM | Message Detail
I get home from work to see tomorrow's picture...ick.

I am now hoping that its not close, because if it is it will have been the picture's fault, and that would just suck.
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From: Sir Bormun | Posted: 8/8/2005 4:05:32 PM | Message Detail
I'm still amazed that this topic puts so much importance on pics.
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From: Phediuk | Posted: 8/8/2005 4:05:46 PM | Message Detail
With that pic of Kerrigan, I've changed my mind about the match.

Vincent will now triple her at least.
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From: Lopen | Posted: 8/8/2005 4:06:11 PM | Message Detail
Vincent's going to need a damn good showing for me to fear Vincent > Dante tomorrow. If Vincent doesn't manage a doubling, book it for Dante. Even if he does, it's just going to make things interesting. That pic is just a bit tough to recognize as Kerrigan for casual fans I'd think.

I'd probably take Kerrigan over Terra in the end, but not by much at all.
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From: smitelf | Posted: 8/8/2005 4:06:35 PM | Message Detail
People really shouldn't be angry at kerrigan's pic just because it's not the one they were hoping for. It really isn't that bad.

Yes, it is, actually. I don’t think I could find a worse official pic for Kerrigan. Seriously, even the Christmas pic would be better.
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From: dragoontheguy | Posted: 8/8/2005 4:07:09 PM | Message Detail
I'm still amazed that this topic puts so much importance on pics.

CATS getting over 30% on MC has given the pic factor a much needed boost in credibility, so it's being used more then usual at the moment.
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From: LeonhartForever | Posted: 8/8/2005 4:07:36 PM | Message Detail
Vincent doesn't manage a doubling, book it for Dante. Even if he does, it's just going to make things interesting

Yeah, because we know exactly where three characters who have never been in the contest before stand, right?
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From: Lopen | Posted: 8/8/2005 4:10:32 PM | Message Detail
Yeah, because we know exactly where three characters who have never been in the contest before stand, right?

Damn Leonhart, do I really have to put "IMO" after every thing I say around here? Of course it's all speculation, jeez. I have a good feeling it's the correct speculation (various reasons), but of course that's all I'm doing, is speculating.
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From: LeonhartForever | Posted: 8/8/2005 4:11:28 PM | Message Detail
Saying "Book it" does not imply that this is "just your opinion." It's more like a guarantee, as if it were a fact.
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From: charmander6000 | Posted: 8/8/2005 4:13:01 PM | Message Detail
I'm still going with

66%+ Vincent = favorite
60%- Dante = favorite
66-60% don't ask me.
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