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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 191
From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 8/8/2005 1:13:53 AM | Message Detail
I should have been the one TO FILL YOUR DARK SOUL WITH LIIIIIIIIIIGHT111!!!!1!1!



*Creativename's websites*

Everything you could ever imagine:
http://www.sc2k5.com
http://www.sc2k4.com

Summer 2002 Contest Information:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/taxonomy/term/1

Summer 2003 Contest Information:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/taxonomy/term/2

Spring 2004 Contest Information:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/taxonomy/term/3

Summer 2004 Contest Information:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/taxonomy/term/4

Summer 2005 Contest Information:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/taxonomy/term/5

Sortable Table for Every Contest Match:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/19



*Extrapolated Standings*

Explanation of Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/11

Simple Explanation of Extrapolated Standings:
A = Strongest Character
B = Character Weaker than A
C = Character Weaker than B
To figure out a character's Xsts Percentage ---> [(CvB)(BvA)]/50 = CvA
To compare how C would do against B ---> [(CvA)/(BvA)]*50 = CvB
To figure out how B would do against A ---> [(CvA)/(CvB)]*50 = BvA

Summer 2002 Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/13

Summer 2003 Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/14

Spring 2004 Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/15

SFF Adjusted Spring 2004 Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/16

Summer 2004 Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/17

SFF Adjusted Summer 2004 Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/18

Spring 2005 Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/27

All Time Extrapolated Standings:
http://www.freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/alltimexsts.htm



*Solarshadow's Sites*

Summer 2002 Contest:
http://solarshadow2002.tripod.com

Summer 2003 Contest:
http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com/2003/index.html

Spring 2004 Contest: (not currently updating)
http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com/sp2004/index.html



*Old Stats topics*

Summer 2002 Contest:
http://solarshadow2002.tripod.com/page1.html

Summer 2003 Contest:
http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com/archive/topic1p1.html
http://www.angelfire.com/games5/sum_contest/Page1.htm (See note)

2003-2004 Off-Season:
http://membres.lycos.fr/shindohikaru/stats1.htm (See note)
Note: Don't use the links in the topic to browse through the pages, change the page number in the URL.

Spring 2004 Pre-Season (Chance the number after "Season" to view other pages; there are three of them):
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringPreSeason1.htm

Spring 2004 Contest (Change the number after "Stats" to view other pages; there are eight of them):
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringStats1.htm



*Match Pictures*

All the match pics, save for three from 2002:
http://www.sc2k5.com/gallery/index.php



*Miscellaneous*

Creativename's Page of Links:
http://sc2k4.com/links.php

MMXcalibur's Contest Sites:
http://prophetchallenge.hyperboards2.com/index.cgi
http://www.freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/

A List of Acronyms, A Lesson on Percentages, and Some Odd Matches:
http://www.freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/acronymspercentsanomalies.htm

Poll Vote Total Updater:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/25

All Time Top 25/Top 10 Lists:
http://www.rpgdl.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3251



!yawA tsoP
From: raytan7585 | Posted: 8/8/2005 1:14:28 AM | Message Detail
Kerrigan >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Vincent

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Score: 18/20 Now: Dante vs Terra *sorry*
MechaMachine Score: 18/20 Pick: Dante over Terra
From: RX7InfinitiIII | Posted: 8/8/2005 1:14:55 AM | Message Detail
Christ, Ulti. I can understand starting at 450, or even 400... but 338?! The old topic's just a baby!
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hi
From: therealmnm | Posted: 8/8/2005 1:16:15 AM | Message Detail
From now on, these topics will now serve as tributes to Knuckles until his match against Magus. This contest has been highly devoid of Knuckles. It's my duty to see that Knuckles gets the limelight he deserves.

Knux... Knux... Knux...
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Graduation: April 30, 2005 "There are only 10 kinds of people in this world, those that read binary and those that don't."
From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 8/8/2005 1:16:42 AM | Message Detail
Blue... blue...

~*ST*~
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Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest
"If my fate is to be destroyed... I must simply laugh!" -Magus
From: Sir Crono | Posted: 8/8/2005 1:17:07 AM | Message Detail
The gate of tomorrow is not the light of heaven, but the darkness in the depths of the Earth.

I don't care what you are doing, so much as the idiotic way that you are doing it.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Contest 2005 Championship
Round 1: (7) Geno
From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 8/8/2005 1:17:53 AM | Message Detail
I know that one, but can't put my finger on it.

~*ST*~
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Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest
"If my fate is to be destroyed... I must simply laugh!" -Magus
From: Sir Crono | Posted: 8/8/2005 1:18:21 AM | Message Detail
*points to tomorrow's match*
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Contest 2005 Championship
Round 1: (7) Geno
From: tehduck16 | Posted: 8/8/2005 1:19:11 AM | Message Detail
Danta>Terra
I'M CALLIN' IT!
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Supporter of Sora, Lloyd, and Kratos Aurion for Summer Contest 2K5!
From: Prometheus321 | Posted: 8/8/2005 6:41:22 AM | Message Detail
*tag*
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VOTE: BOWSER in the Summer Contest
From: jeevesthemole | Posted: 8/8/2005 6:44:31 AM | Message Detail
Wwwwwweeeeeelcome come come to Moo Moo Moo nsi nsi nsi... nside.
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No, Kirby and Pac-Man are round characters. Cloud is just spiky. - BlackMageJawa
SC Score: 18/19 Today: Crono
From: Tediz247 | Posted: 8/8/2005 9:37:21 AM | Message Detail
Might as well ask before this topic starts filling up. Does anyone have any good Starcraft replays? I'm looking to improve, seeing as I completely suck right now. I've picked up a few things from various people I've played with, but not enough. It would be much appreciated.
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That... was her final mission. And like a true soldier, she saw it through the end.
ZSB [aX]
From: Mumei | Posted: 8/8/2005 9:49:23 AM | Message Detail
http://www.gosugamers.net

Lots of excellent Starcraft replays...

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>_>
From: Adept_Of_Aiur | Posted: 8/8/2005 9:57:59 AM | Message Detail
You can also use wgtour.com's replay section. It has a lot.
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"All pretty girls are a trap, a pretty trap, and men expect them to be."
MasterMage119
From: Tediz247 | Posted: 8/8/2005 10:00:30 AM | Message Detail
Uh... how do you watch them? >_>
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That... was her final mission. And like a true soldier, she saw it through the end.
ZSB [aX]
From: Adept_Of_Aiur | Posted: 8/8/2005 10:01:21 AM | Message Detail
Put them in your replay folder (in Program Files/Starcraft/maps), and then open them in Starcraft.
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"All pretty girls are a trap, a pretty trap, and men expect them to be."
MasterMage119
From: Phediuk | Posted: 8/8/2005 12:01:07 PM | Message Detail
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From: Draco1214 | Posted: 8/8/2005 12:01:43 PM | Message Detail
Kerrigan = Geno. Book it!
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Summer 2005 Contest - 19/21 points
Current Match Prediction: Sarah Kerrigan vs. Vincent Valentine
From: Phediuk | Posted: 8/8/2005 12:01:55 PM | Message Detail
I already made my prediction in the last topic, but I'll post it again just in case:

Vincent will double Kerrigan, if not more.

Reasons?

1. Kerrigan's game is not called "Sarah Kerrigan".

2. People don't play StarCraft for the single player. No, really, they don't. Many StarCraft players only know Kerrigan as "that scary chick on the box".

3. Kerrigan may be StarCraft, but Vincent is FFVII. You know, the most popular game on the site? And he's the fan favorite.
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"Thank you, Mario. But our princess is in another castle."
-Toad in Super Mario Bros.
From: Phediuk | Posted: 8/8/2005 12:06:27 PM | Message Detail
Hey, I just realized that this coule be the first contest where we dispel the "Noble Nine" once and for all.

Before, the term was used because nobody outside of the Noble Nine had ever beaten a Noble Nine member.

But now, Zelda and Bowser both have good shots at beating Snake. Think one of them is going to do it?
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"Thank you, Mario. But our princess is in another castle."
-Toad in Super Mario Bros.
From: Vile Requiem | Posted: 8/8/2005 12:09:23 PM | Message Detail
Bowser's coup de grace only happens if Zelda doesn't finish Snake off first.

There's no way he gets past Bowser if Bowser can pull 40%+ on Sephi
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Summer 2k5 Contest - 20/21
Today: Kerrigan Tomorrow: Magus
From: Lopen | Posted: 8/8/2005 12:11:18 PM | Message Detail
Good thing I got the truth out there.
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Raiden fact of the contest: Alucard is a plagiarist, this year Raiden will prove it!
From: charmander6000 | Posted: 8/8/2005 12:11:19 PM | Message Detail
Go Dante!!!
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I've been Pwned by KoaC. He really is the king of all cosmos.
From: Crono801 | Posted: 8/8/2005 12:11:47 PM | Message Detail
Voltch... who is Powell?
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Welcome to Moonside. Wecomel to Soonmide. Moonwel ot cosidme
From: Sir Crono | Posted: 8/8/2005 12:11:47 PM | Message Detail
Ryu could be the exception, not the rule, for all we know.

The exception to what? Ryu is a video game legend. He has plenty of reason to be up there.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Contest 2005 Championship
Round 1: (7) Geno
From: transience | Posted: 8/8/2005 12:12:53 PM | Message Detail
wait... people are mad at other people for making bold predictions? ..isn't that what happens in every stats topic?
From: Lopen | Posted: 8/8/2005 12:12:58 PM | Message Detail
You misunderstood, Leonhart. Ryu is a near elite that failed to break into the elites after a new release. That's why he could be the exception. Maybe other near elites would be capable of doing so with a new release.
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Raiden fact of the contest: Alucard is a plagiarist, this year Raiden will prove it!
From: Buzzup | Posted: 8/8/2005 12:15:00 PM | Message Detail
From which point exactly are characters considered 'elite'?

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As much as I want to put something original about the Guru Contest here, I can't, because Yoblazer owned me way too hard.
From: Lopen | Posted: 8/8/2005 12:16:28 PM | Message Detail
Don't ask me, I didn't originally bring that "elite wall" up anyway. I'm guessing it's 33%+.
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Raiden fact of the contest: Alucard is a plagiarist, this year Raiden will prove it!
From: charmander6000 | Posted: 8/8/2005 12:17:53 PM | Message Detail
From which point exactly are characters considered 'elite'?

When a character beats...

Link
Cloud
Sephiroth
Samus
Crono
Mario
Mega Man
Sonic
Solid Snake
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I've been Pwned by KoaC. He really is the king of all cosmos.
From: Sir Crono | Posted: 8/8/2005 12:18:12 PM | Message Detail
Ryu is a near elite that failed to break into the elites after a new release. That's why he could be the exception. Maybe other near elites would be capable of doing so with a new release.

Because Ryu is an established icon. A new release would have to be a blockbuster to make him move up, not a re-release of his most popular game.

And for the record, Dante isn't a near elite in the first place. He's a midcarder.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Contest 2005 Championship
Round 1: (7) Geno
From: therealmnm | Posted: 8/8/2005 12:19:18 PM | Message Detail
He's talking about a character having a significant release to put him in elite territory as far as popularity goes.

My argument is even IF a character has a significant release, he STILL has to DISPLACE the most popular characters to be more popular than them. If a character like Sonic or Samus is still more popular than Dante, it doesn't matter how much more popular Dante has gotten.

I gave this example before. If Dante suddenly became much more popular and he then is able to beat, let's say Lara Croft, much worse than he is supposed to. Okay. Dante looks to be much stronger. But lets say he faces Samus and Samus STILL beats him like she is supposed to.

Wait? What happened? Dante ISN'T stronger. It must mean that Lara Croft dropped in popularity! It's a major flaw in our logic. We think that if a character increases in popularity, it must mean that the character will gain votes over EVERY other character. It doesn't work like that.

You can like a character much more than you do other lesser characters, but it still doesn't mean that character will displace your favorites. It works in reverse... You may not like a character AS much, but you still like him better than other characters. I think we've seen this happen before with characters like Tidus and Lara Croft taking big drops.
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MM are my INITIALS "There are only 10 kinds of people in this world, those that read binary and those that don't."
From: transience | Posted: 8/8/2005 12:20:26 PM | Message Detail
yeah, "elite" is tough to define. it seems you've got your noble nine, you've got your midcarders, and everyone inbetween is "elite". Aeris, Ryu, Bowser, Ganon, maybe Zelda, maybe Squall, Zero, Auron/Tidus.. those are your "elites". Snake is probably also "elite" now.
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nominate Jay Solano for sc2k6.
From: Lucid Faia | Posted: 8/8/2005 12:30:43 PM | Message Detail
"General Leo... People only seem to want power. Do they really want to be like me? I... I wanted to learn so much more from you..."



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2nd Place, Spring Contest 2005
World Champion: Gyruss, Link's Awakening, Mega Man X, Super Mario World, Zombies Ate My Neighbors
From: Mister Mario | Posted: 8/8/2005 12:34:04 PM | Message Detail
Just woke up, and Terra is getting owned.

I'm lovin' it!
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Mario is Winnar
Next victim: Master Ness
From: charmander6000 | Posted: 8/8/2005 12:36:00 PM | Message Detail
I would rank Dante after today at 28%, seems resonable enough.
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I've been Pwned by KoaC. He really is the king of all cosmos.
From: charmander6000 | Posted: 8/8/2005 12:54:29 PM | Message Detail
I've never played Kingdom Hearts, but correct me if I'm wrong Vincent wasn't in it.

2k2 Aeris = 28.50% against 2k4 Link.
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I've been Pwned by KoaC. He really is the king of all cosmos.
From: Sir Crono | Posted: 8/8/2005 12:55:36 PM | Message Detail
Only problem is that 28% for Dante was against 2003 Link.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Contest 2005 Championship
Round 1: (7) Geno
From: voltch | Posted: 8/8/2005 12:57:10 PM | Message Detail
will tomorrows match have high vote total?

starcraft sites if they link will give kerrigan plenty of votes from people that come from outside gamefaqs.
but FF7 characters in general are big vote drawers
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Kilroy:There fate will be in each other's hands as they decide whether to share or to shaft
From: Sir Crono | Posted: 8/8/2005 12:57:54 PM | Message Detail
I would expect tomorrow's match to break 100K, especially if Kerrigan gets a link.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Contest 2005 Championship
Round 1: (7) Geno
From: charmander6000 | Posted: 8/8/2005 12:59:10 PM | Message Detail
Only problem is that 28% for Dante was against 2003 Link.

I'm talking about 28% against 2k4 Link
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I've been Pwned by KoaC. He really is the king of all cosmos.
From: Sir Crono | Posted: 8/8/2005 1:05:33 PM | Message Detail
Honestly, the idea of Dante nearly beating Aeris is farfetched. I honestly can't see him improving nearly 10% on Sonic due to one low-selling game.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Contest 2005 Championship
Round 1: (7) Geno
From: charmander6000 | Posted: 8/8/2005 1:33:56 PM | Message Detail
I'm talking about pre-KH Aeris. In 2k2 Solid Snake beat her 56.5/43.5
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I've been Pwned by KoaC. He really is the king of all cosmos.
From: charmander6000 | Posted: 8/8/2005 1:37:04 PM | Message Detail
btw I don't think Dante could beat Aeris
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I've been Pwned by KoaC. He really is the king of all cosmos.
From: Sir Crono | Posted: 8/8/2005 1:45:13 PM | Message Detail
http://www.gamefaqs.com/shared/sum05/b22.jpg

Thanks for playing, Kerrigan. Try again next year.

The rest of the pictures for the first round are up, by the way.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Contest 2005 Championship
Round 1: (7) Geno
From: MegatokyoEd | Posted: 8/8/2005 1:45:53 PM | Message Detail
Kerrigan's pic is so horrible. OMG. Vincent is getting 65%+ EASILY!
From: transience | Posted: 8/8/2005 1:45:58 PM | Message Detail
...

*runs to oracle topic*
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nominate Jay Solano for sc2k6.
From: charmander6000 | Posted: 8/8/2005 1:46:15 PM | Message Detail
http://www.gamefaqs.com/shared/sum05/b22.jpg

I knew she was getting that pic ^5's everyone
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I've been Pwned by KoaC. He really is the king of all cosmos.
From: swirldude | Posted: 8/8/2005 1:46:57 PM | Message Detail
What a horrible match pic for both sides tomorrow.

And Knux's is horrid as well. The Sonic Battle pics are all drawn like crap IMO. More prove that CJay hates Knuckles ;_;
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Dp eats poop.
From: MegatokyoEd | Posted: 8/8/2005 1:47:58 PM | Message Detail
Diablo got his cool picture. Kratos is so losing.
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