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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 190
From: yoblazer33 | Posted: 8/8/2005 12:11:29 AM | Message Detail
I'm glad so many people realize Kerrigan is going to fall flat on her face tomorrow.
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From: Heroic_Cable | Posted: 8/8/2005 12:11:31 AM | Message Detail
Terra's lack of boobs could be a major part.

Anybody still have any hope for any other FFVI characters?
From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 8/8/2005 12:12:13 AM | Message Detail
Eh, no matter how well Dante does today, I still think Vincent can beat him. There's more than enough room between Dante and Aeris for Vincent to squeeze in, DMC3 or not. And that's assuming that Aeris > Vincent in the first place.

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From: Dunkeroo23 | Posted: 8/8/2005 12:12:18 AM | Message Detail
This is what I've been expecting all along. Dante should climb over 70% and has the edge on Vincent right now. If Vincent gets anything less than 60% tomorrow, Dante has this in the bag
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From: Lucid Faia | Posted: 8/8/2005 12:12:41 AM | Message Detail
Anybody still have any hope for any other FFVI characters?

Nope. I didn't want to believe it, though I knew it was true in the back of my mind, but FF3/6j characters just don't appear to be popular on this website.

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From: Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted: 8/8/2005 12:12:56 AM | Message Detail
This does not bode well for Vincent.

I think Dante may have increased from DMC3, but this performance speaks more of Terra's weakness more than anything. As long as Vincent is very near or equal to Aeris, he'll win next round, which I believe he will be and then some.

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From: Lopen | Posted: 8/8/2005 12:13:06 AM | Message Detail
I still claim that Celes, Edgar, Sabin, Shadow, Mog, and Locke would all do better than Terra. Even if marginally.
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From: Eggplant Lord | Posted: 8/8/2005 12:13:17 AM | Message Detail
I think we've been ignoring the Tifa/Luigi match here...

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From: Sir Crono | Posted: 8/8/2005 12:13:24 AM | Message Detail
Dante beating Terra by more than expected does not mean he increased, you know...
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Contest 2005 Championship
Round 1: (7) Geno
From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 8/8/2005 12:13:30 AM | Message Detail
From: Lucid Faia | Posted: 8/8/2005 3:11:29 AM | Message Detail | #150
This does not bode well for Vincent.


Aren't you one of the guys always yelling at people for deciding the rest of a contest 15 minutes into a match? Or maybe I'm confusing you with blazer.

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From: voltch | Posted: 8/8/2005 12:13:35 AM | Message Detail
well assuming terra follows kefka's patern of starting good and then dropping like an anvil,will she get creamed?
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From: HaRRicH | Posted: 8/8/2005 12:13:39 AM | Message Detail
Well, looking on the brighter side of this match, Slow's gonna be around awhile longer.
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From: Adept_Of_Aiur | Posted: 8/8/2005 12:13:55 AM | Message Detail
Just so you guys know, if Kerrigan beats Vincent, do NOT expect me to handle it with the grace I handled MH beating Kuja. I will rub it in each and every one of your faces. :P
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From: Eggplant Lord | Posted: 8/8/2005 12:14:00 AM | Message Detail
Celes, Edgar, Sabin, Shadow, Mog, and Locke

I don't know why you'd think that...

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From: Lucid Faia | Posted: 8/8/2005 12:14:04 AM | Message Detail
Aren't you one of the guys always yelling at people for deciding the rest of a contest 15 minutes into a match?

No.

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From: Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted: 8/8/2005 12:14:21 AM | Message Detail
If Vincent gets anything less than 60% tomorrow,

That's just personal expectations on Kerrigan's strength. But I would say that he needs to do well to at least be considered good into the next round, regardless of whether or not we're off on what he needs.

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From: Sir Crono | Posted: 8/8/2005 12:14:51 AM | Message Detail
I think there's reason to believe Edgar could be more popular. Sabin and Mog are long shots.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Contest 2005 Championship
Round 1: (7) Geno
From: Applekidjosh | Posted: 8/8/2005 12:15:34 AM | Message Detail
Just so you guys know, if Kerrigan beats Vincent, do NOT expect me to handle it with the grace I handled MH beating Kuja. I will rub it in each and every one of your faces. :P

Oh yes. That will be good. And it'll make my guru bracket look fantastic

I still don't understand how so many people can have complete confidence in Vincent when both characters are new to the contest...
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From: Lopen | Posted: 8/8/2005 12:15:35 AM | Message Detail
Edgar and Sabin have the power of hella favorite backing, and Mog has the power of some favorite backing, and his Moogleness.
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Raiden fact of the contest: Alucard is a plagiarist, this year Raiden will prove it!
From: Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted: 8/8/2005 12:16:15 AM | Message Detail
I still don't understand how so many people can have complete confidence in Vincent when both characters are new to the contest...

I consider Vincent's floor to be higher than Kerrigan's ceiling. That makes the decision rather easy.

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From: HaRRicH | Posted: 8/8/2005 12:16:16 AM | Message Detail
I'd believe Mog before I believed any of the rest of the characters, now that Terra is bombing. Hopefully she doesn't pull a Kefka and can make it a lil' more respectable come morning-time.
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From: Sir Bormun | Posted: 8/8/2005 12:16:41 AM | Message Detail
Guys, I think we have to give it up on the matter of SNES FF characters being strong. Just goes to show how strong Kefka is that he can actually compete in contest matches... I don't think anyone else from the SNES ranks can.
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From: voltch | Posted: 8/8/2005 12:16:42 AM | Message Detail
so terra was a flop and kinda deserved such a low seed
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Kilroy:There fate will be in each other's hands as they decide whether to share or to shaft
From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 8/8/2005 12:16:52 AM | Message Detail
From: Sir Crono | Posted: 8/8/2005 3:13:24 AM | Message Detail | #159
Dante beating Terra by more than expected does not mean he increased, you know...


Aren't you one of the guys who kept saying that Dante increased despite DMC2? And now you're saying that there's no DMC3 boost? You're either rooting for your bracket and telling yourself that there's no DMC3 boost or are wearing Xst blinders.

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From: charmander6000 | Posted: 8/8/2005 12:16:59 AM | Message Detail
I know people will disagree with me, but I'm pretty sure it's Aeris > Vincent. At least you don't have to unlock Aeris plus she does have one of the biggest spoilers in videogame history.
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From: Haste2 | Posted: 8/8/2005 12:17:02 AM | Message Detail
I didn't expect this to be close, but I didn't expect Terra to beat weaker than Vyse.

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From: AmazingKirby | Posted: 8/8/2005 12:17:04 AM | Message Detail
Actually, I think Mog would do pretty good. He has the moogle factor, like Vivi has the Black Mage factor. But moogles are more known than black mages.
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From: Heroic_Cable | Posted: 8/8/2005 12:17:26 AM | Message Detail
We need to see Kirby and Dante face each other now.
From: Lucid Faia | Posted: 8/8/2005 12:17:34 AM | Message Detail
I don't think anyone else from the SNES ranks can.

Crono?

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From: Sir Crono | Posted: 8/8/2005 12:17:36 AM | Message Detail
Aren't you one of the guys who kept saying that Dante increased despite DMC2? And now you're saying that there's no DMC3 boost?

Did I say that? No. Read more carefully.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Contest 2005 Championship
Round 1: (7) Geno
From: Sir Bormun | Posted: 8/8/2005 12:17:47 AM | Message Detail
*still chuckles at Danta*
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From: HaRRicH | Posted: 8/8/2005 12:18:07 AM | Message Detail
I'm very glad I did NOT take this upset, heh. I was on the verge awhile, too...though I was also on the verge of putting Ness > CJ. Meh.
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From: Adept_Of_Aiur | Posted: 8/8/2005 12:18:19 AM | Message Detail
Oh yes. That will be good. And it'll make my guru bracket look fantastic

I still don't understand how so many people can have complete confidence in Vincent when both characters are new to the contest...


What the... Do you have the exact same first round as me except for Ness vs CJ???
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From: Tatsumaki Senpuu | Posted: 8/8/2005 12:18:34 AM | Message Detail
At least you don't have to unlock Aeris plus she does have one of the biggest spoilers in videogame history.

Vincent is also there far longer than Aeris if you get him. Aeris is more known due to the spoiler, but that doesn't mean people like her more.

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From: creativename | Posted: 8/8/2005 12:18:51 AM | Message Detail
From: AmazingKirby | Posted: 8/8/2005 3:17:04 AM | Message Detail | #177
Actually, I think Mog would do pretty good. He has the moogle factor, like Vivi has the Black Mage factor. But moogles are more known than black mages.


They're not as appealing, though.

Mog might do better than Terra, but I doubt he'd be at Vivi level.
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From: Lucid Faia | Posted: 8/8/2005 12:19:29 AM | Message Detail
Mog is the only FF3/6j character that I would even consider to have a chance at being stronger than Terra.

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From: BeTheMan | Posted: 8/8/2005 12:19:32 AM | Message Detail
I have to say that it's a little shocking that the FFVI characters would be this weak considering that the game is only one year older than Chrono Trigger...and we know that VI has a solid fanbase from Sp2k4. Oh well.
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From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 8/8/2005 12:19:53 AM | Message Detail
I still don't understand how so many people can have complete confidence in Vincent when both characters are new to the contest...

To be equal to Aeris in the stats, Kerrigan would need to be able to defeat Diablo with about 60% of the vote. I'm no Xst fanboy, but I don't even think she can even come close to beating Diablo, let alone destroying him by that wide a margin. Kerrigan's company affiliation is causing massive overestimation, and people are forgetting what the name of Diablo's series is.

Diablo is the most popular Blizzard character by leaps and bounds. BOOK'D.

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From: Adept_Of_Aiur | Posted: 8/8/2005 12:20:13 AM | Message Detail
Vincent is also there far longer than Aeris if you get him. Aeris is more known due to the spoiler, but that doesn't mean people like her more.

This is sort of similar to saying Magus could beat Crono. The concept is similar anyway.
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From: Lopen | Posted: 8/8/2005 12:20:18 AM | Message Detail
So how high does Dante have to get on Terra for you people to accept Dante > Squall/Magus/Vincent as viable?

I think right here's pretty good, myself. How weak can she really be?
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From: charmander6000 | Posted: 8/8/2005 12:20:22 AM | Message Detail
Vincent is also there far longer than Aeris if you get him. Aeris is more known due to the spoiler, but that doesn't mean people like her more.

True, but people will remember Aeris longer then they will remember Vincent.
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From: Lucid Faia | Posted: 8/8/2005 12:20:27 AM | Message Detail
I have to say that it's a little shocking that the FFVI characters would be this weak considering that the game is only one year older than Chrono Trigger...and we know that VI has a solid fanbase from Sp2k4. Oh well.

Yeah. I lost faith in Terra after Cecil, but this is ridiculous. I definitely didn't expect Terra to be doing this poorly.

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From: creativename | Posted: 8/8/2005 12:20:31 AM | Message Detail
Shadow would definitely have a shot at being stronger than Terra. I can't see how he wouldn't be the favorite against her now.
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From: yoblazer33 | Posted: 8/8/2005 12:20:32 AM | Message Detail
People are tossing other FFVI names around already? It's clear that everyone from that game will be nothing more than a glorified failure in a match. Edgar or Fedgar or whoever the hell "having a shot at being more popular than Terra" means nothing if Terra may not even pull 30% here.
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From: Sir Bormun | Posted: 8/8/2005 12:20:34 AM | Message Detail
Crono?

I meant the SNES FFs. Characters from them... forget it.

I don't know how Chrono Trigger does so well.
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From: Heroic_Cable | Posted: 8/8/2005 12:20:37 AM | Message Detail
Maybe Dante has some strange abillity to overkill his first round opponet and then return to normal strenght in later rounds.
From: HaRRicH | Posted: 8/8/2005 12:20:53 AM | Message Detail
It's probably about time for me to go to bed...who would you take in a Terra/Zidane match-up though?
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From: therealmnm | Posted: 8/8/2005 12:20:57 AM | Message Detail
I was the first person to bring this up, and creativename was the second. I distinctly remember both of us being mocked for that one... because FF6 is far stronger than FF4 and Terra is the lead and blah blah ****ing blah hero:villain etc etc.

*"I told you so" brick through the stats topic windshield*


*Raises hand and stops brick in mid-air*

Didn't I call Terra to be at Yuna's strength at MAX? And I even gave her the benefit of the doubt then, seeing as how they are VERY similar in character and people insisting that since FFVI is more popular than X that Terra would be at least as strong as Yuna. I figured Terra would perform as she is. I was actually kind of shocked that people expected her to beat Dante...

And this match has NOTHING to do with Vincent. Cloud, Sephiroth, and Aeris have already proven to be quite strong in these contests. I expect Vincent and Tifa to do the same...
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From: Adept_Of_Aiur | Posted: 8/8/2005 12:21:03 AM | Message Detail

To be equal to Aeris in the stats, Kerrigan would need to be able to defeat Diablo with about 60% of the vote. I'm no Xst fanboy, but I don't even think she can even come close to beating Diablo, let alone destroying him by that wide a margin. Kerrigan's company affiliation is causing massive overestimation, and people are forgetting what the name of Diablo's series is.

Diablo is the most popular Blizzard character by leaps and bounds. BOOK'D.


I'm not banking SOLELY on Kerrigan's strength. I think this topic is overestimating Vincent by a ton.
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From: voltch | Posted: 8/8/2005 12:21:16 AM | Message Detail
anyone think locke could do better than terra? after all it seems as though main male characters are stronger than main female characters. although sometimes you get an exception like samus but maybe thats because there are still some idiots who thinks she's a man
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