Plus Kratos is an in-house character, which means they never have to worry about Capcom going "Oops Dante on XBox 360 now too".

This is the best point I had read. I was going to make it, but you beat me to it. The only way Dante could be the "face of the PS3" is if here were an exclusive character who was far popular than any other character. At this point, it is likely Devil May Cry is not going to be PS3 exclusive. It's very likely that we'll see those titles also appearing on the Xbox 360 -- Capcom is one of the console's big supporters heading into the next-gen.

If anything, Kratos, or Solid Snake since Kojima has said that MGS will stay on the PS3, would be better suited for that. I love Dante, but he's by no means exclusive to the PlayStation brand.

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Anyone who puts Dante at 33 - 34% on 2003 Link is nothing short of insane. Then again, I realized who's post I was reading and it all made sense.

It's Dante getting picture screwed last year against Sonic, dropping to 2k2 levels because of it (we've seen bad pictures drop a character 10% before, it's not unfreasable).

Dante... go to 2002 levels?! Do you even know what you're talking about? Dante was above his 2002 levels in 2004 by at least 2%. He dropped from 2003 to 2004 by around 1%. That's hardly anything to get in an uproar about.

And no, we have never seen a character drop 10% because of a picture. That's an amazing assumption on your part, though.

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That's my point. Dante will beat Kerrigan.

XDDDD. Thanks for making me look like an ass. ^.~

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ok people I know DMC3 will help Dante, but any predictions over 30% is somewhat crazy. Maybe Terra is just weak.
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Er... whatever. I thought Dante was at 25% in 2k4. My point stands, he should've been at 28% in 2k4. And go ahead and read what I meant by "10%". We've seen it happen.

And what does that mean, HM? What does that mean? "Then again, I realized who's post I was reading and it all made sense"? Heh heh. I'm no more insane than you are...
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Dante at 30%.

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Maybe Terra is just weak.

We have a winner.
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Dante vs. Terra - Bracket: Dante - Vote: Dante (18/20)

Dante is not going to be stronger than 30%, and even 30% is a stretch. Terra is just that weak (even I'm surprised, and I said Dante would get 70%, come on, weaker than Conker?). Vincent Valentine will beat Kerrigan and Dante, the real is if he can beat Magus.

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If anything, Kratos, or Solid Snake since Kojima has said that MGS will stay on the PS3, would be better suited for that. I love Dante, but he's by no means exclusive to the PlayStation brand.

He's a lot more exclusive than Snake, who's been whored out about as much as Sonic over the past few years. I made the point that Kratos's only advantage over Dante was being Sony born and bred, but that lone advantage doesn't suddenly catapult him over the DMC star. The white hair, trench coat, and dual handguns provide much more casual appeal than a half naked bald guy. Of course, this won't matter much if Dante gets ported to the Xbox 360, but we haven't heard any news on that yet while Sony has already announced Devil May Cry 4 for the PS3.
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Board 8: Where people treat each other right.

Dante > Vincent.
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Summer 2005 Contest - 19/21 points
Current Match Prediction: Sarah Kerrigan vs. Vincent Valentine

Vincent Valentine will beat Kerrigan and Dante, the real is if he can beat Magus.

You got the Kerrigan part right.
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I've been Pwned by KoaC. He really is the king of all cosmos.

Er... whatever. I thought Dante was at 25% in 2k4. My point stands, he should've been at 28% in 2k4. And go ahead and read what I meant by "10%". We've seen it happen.

You mean he should have kept his 2003 value for 2004? If he had 28% on 2004 Link it would have meant that he increased last year. You to have understand, Link in 2004 was stronger than Link in 2003.

And what does that mean, HM? What does that mean? "Then again, I realized who's post I was reading and it all made sense"? Heh heh. I'm no more insane than you are...

You have a wild tendency as of late to make these off the wall predictions for no reason at all. Dante at 33 - 34% is nothing more than an insane claim. There's no justifying something like that without sounding like an idiot.

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here's no justifying something like that without sounding like an idiot.

You should be forbidden from statements like that after "Mega Man for the championship!" thing in 2004. =P

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Remember in 2k3 where we all thought Dante would barley double Ryo and then he triples him and then people were saying that Dante vs. Ryu will be a close match, but not many people stop to think if Ryo could've just got weaker.
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He's a lot more exclusive than Snake, who's been whored out about as much as Sonic over the past few years.

. . .

Solid Snake has appeared on the GameCube as a part of a GCN remake and had a port on the Xbox. That's hardly being "whored out." IGN ran a contest of PS2 badasses and you wouldn't believe who won that. Solid Snake. He is widely considered to be a PS brand character. Dante isn't going to be the "face" of the PS3 as long as Solid Snake is still there on the console. Metal Gear Solid 4 is remaining exclusive to the platform, Kojima is keeping all things MGS on that console. He even stressed that he's reluctant to even provide ports. He wants to establish other franhcises on the Revolution and Xbox 360.

I made the point that Kratos's only advantage over Dante was being Sony born and bred, but that lone advantage doesn't suddenly catapult him over the DMC star.

Not to mention that Kratos also reeks of badass in the very same fashion as Dante. Just to bring it up again, Kratos barely lost to Dante in that little character contest over at IGN. That should say something after ONE game. Kratos just needs to add to his selection and he'll undoubtedly be the main character of the PlayStation. Sony has far more reason to push for a character created by their in-house development team than they do a third party character.

while Sony has already announced Devil May Cry 4 for the PS3.

Capcom announced that game, not Sony.

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Yesterday me claiming that Dante would easily double Terra was an "off the wall claim" too, wasn't it? My only ridiculous previous claim was that I can remember off hand is: "If Master Chief were to break 80% on CATS, Crono would be in some danger". But he didn't even come close, and if he did I'd stand by that.

This reminds me alot of you and Mega Man, actually, HM. (which was a much crazier claim than I'm making now... 12% increase from the anniversary collection?) Now it's time to see whether this absurdly high Dante > Terra goes the way of Mega Man > Tidus or it actually means something.
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You should be forbidden from statements like that after "Mega Man for the championship!" thing in 2004. =P

I never said that wasn't stupid. I have readily admitted it was out of pure bias and for my own personal enjoyment. If he had at least done respectably last year he would have been my winner this year. *sigh*

But I have been relatively good about NOT making those insane predictions since 2004.

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Where's Ryu when you need him? We need another Dante owning to put the Dante bandwagon back in their place.

People don't realize that it takes a HELL of a character or a game for a new character or game to break into the upper echelon of popularity. Dante has proven to be a top 20 character at BEST. No way does DMC3 all of a sudden push him into elite territory when the game didn't even sell better than it's inferior predecessor.
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My Kerrigan vs Vincent analysis is up! :D
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Yesterday me claiming that Dante would easily double Terra was an "off the wall claim" too, wasn't it?

Hey, guess what? You got one of those predictions that no one thought would happen right. Get in the very long line of people who have actually done that. I predicted Mega Man/Tidus to absolute perfection. I was off by a mere .30%. I still ended up being very wrong.

My only ridiculous previous claim was that I can remember off hand is: "If Master Chief were to break 80% on CATS, Crono would be in some danger".

This was another one of those insane predictions, yes.

This reminds me alot of you and Mega Man, actually, HM. (which was a much crazier claim than I'm making now... 12% increase from the anniversary collection?)

You're calling for a 7% boost from 300,000 in sales on the PlayStation 2. I was calling for around a 12% increase from a game on two platforms, of Mega Man's best games, and the sales of around 400,000. Both were ridiculous, I'm glad we can at least agree up that.

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People don't realize that it takes a HELL of a character or a game for a new character or game to break into the upper echelon of popularity

Wait... what? Have we ever even seen a character "break into the upper echelon of popularity"? I don't think so. It's probably better than we don't realize that, considering that there's no basis for such a claim.

And HM, I don't count this as a ridiculous claim. I said if Master Chief were to have scored 80% on CATS, Crono would have been in danger, and there's really no denying it. I never once said Master Chief would break 80% on CATS (but some on the board had suggested it could happen) or that he's any threat now that he didn't. I don't call that an off the wall claim at all. And it's... 5-6%. Not 7%. Jeez.

But don't worry, I'm not going to disappoint. Next off the wall prediction: Magus fails to obtain 55% on Knuckles.
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And HM, I don't count this as a ridiculous claim. I said if Master Chief were to have scored 80% on CATS, Crono would have been in danger, and there's really no denying it.

You do realize that he was projected to get nearly 80% in the first place, right?

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And it's... 5-6%. Not 7%. Jeez.

27% on 2003 Link to 33 - 34% on 2003 Link is roughly 6 - 7%.

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I just like everyone to know Im 2 for 2 in my bold predictions since this contest started. (Riku/Frog and Vivi/Zelda) And the third one is in my sig.
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Wait... what? Have we ever even seen a character "break into the upper echelon of popularity"? I don't think so. It's probably better than we don't realize that, considering that there's no basis for such a claim.

Actually, that's actially the point. Despite the numerous hopefuls to reach "the upper echelon of popularity", none have been successful. While the concept of the "Nobel Nine" may fall this year, that's mostly because Solid Snake has fallen so much rather than a character becoming popular enough.
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Leon tripling Freeman would be the greatest thing ever. <3

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The Noble Nine no longer exists, its the Elite Eight. Maybe Zelda, but definitely Bowser will prove that.
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You do realize that he was projected to get nearly 80% in the first place

Super CATS, yada yada yada.

And my claim is his last year 27% should be 28%, (or perhaps 29% if I'm really generous) because of his horrible picture vs Sonic. Meaning he's getting increased by DMC3 by a mere 4-6%.
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I also called Riku/Frog, and Alucard/Kratos. (but I don't know how bold that one actually was) So technically, I'm also 2 for 2. We'll see if I go 3 for 3 with Magus/Knuckles.
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Meaning he's getting increased by DMC3 by a mere 4-6%

That's not small increase by any stretch of the imagination. It isn't "mere." You had a hard time believing Yuna increasing by a little under 3%, but you expect Dante almost double that?

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His sprite ISNT that bad. Other characters (like Gannon and Snake) have much more reason to complain. You can tell its Dante.
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Didn't Yuna increase by 5% assuming constant Ganondorf? Or am I mistaken?

And yes, I am downplaying how big of an increase 4-6% is with my choice of words. I'm well aware of that. Heh heh.
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Yuna had much more reason to increase (Higher selling game, less games in series, first game she stareed in, yadda yadda yadda)
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Leon's Quest For Ultimate Glory:
1. Tripling Gordon Freeman.

No the 5% is on SpC2k5 'Dorf. 3% is on 2k3/2k4 'Dorf.
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Leon's Quest For Ultimate Glory:
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Didn't Yuna increase by 5% assuming constant Ganondorf? Or am I mistaken?

You are mistaken. Assuming 2003 Ganon is correct, Yuna increases by 2.XX%, nearly 3%, but hardly anything to consider crazy when you think Dante will be receiving 4 - 6%.

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Wait... what? Have we ever even seen a character "break into the upper echelon of popularity"? I don't think so. It's probably better than we don't realize that, considering that there's no basis for such a claim.

Actually, that's actially the point. Despite the numerous hopefuls to reach "the upper echelon of popularity", none have been successful. While the concept of the "Nobel Nine" may fall this year, that's mostly because Solid Snake has fallen so much rather than a character becoming popular enough

That was exactly my point. We've never seen someone in these contests increase in popularity to the point where they are up with some of the most popular characters of all, especially when they were nowhere near as popular before. A game that sells a mere 300,000 is not going to be the game that does so. It would take something MASSIVE (say... a FFVII?) to get a character to be that popular.

The only reason why I'm banking on Tifa and Vincent to be strong is because we have no idea how popular they are. If Sephiroth can be the third strongest character PERIOD on this site, and Aeris can give Sonic a run for his money... I wouldn't be shocked if Tifa and Vincent were up there as well. If they AREN'T, there's nothing that would convince me that they could boost to that level. Not even Advent Children and Dirge of Cerberus.
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Well the thing is some characters are falling off that elite level. Snake has already fallen and I say in 2 years, Mega Man will be gone too. This could be the last year he is stronger than Sonic (if he is).
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how long will it take for link and cloud to drop? cause at the moment there dominating like gatlin and powell do in sprinting.
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I don't think Mega Man is falling off the radar anytime soon. He had one piss poor match against Link, but he's shown that he can demolish just about everyone who isn't apart of that elite class. Hell, he match Mario back in 2003 against Sephiroth. He's capable of hanging in there, except against Link for some reason. That match just sucked.

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Well considering Link is getting his biggest game since OOT in a few months and Square has decided to start whoring out FFVII.

I say never.
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Yeah. Sonic and Snake aren't that far ahead of the second tier characters.
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Yuna had much more reason to increase (Higher selling game, less games in series, first game she stareed in, yadda yadda yadda)

Don't forget sex appeal!

This match is currently 1000 behind Ness/CJ, for all interested.
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But we can't assume what it takes to break into that upper level if we've never even seen what it takes. Most characters that are on the verge of that level have not had a significant release in quite some time, anyway. Ryu had SF Anniversary Collection... and that's about it, isn't it? We have insufficient data on this subject. Ryu could be the exception, not the rule, for all we know.

And anyway, Dorf Sp2k5 is the main one I have a problem with. 2k3 Dorf probably isn't overrated by much at all (now), given that Zelda is almighty right now. I'm really regretting Auron > Ganon, I'll admit it. But I still maintain Magus is too high, and that Ganon just went up some with Link.
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Knuckles > Magus
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Knux > Devil Divison
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Dante vs. Terra - Bracket: Dante - Vote: Dante (18/20)

Dante > Magus and Squall
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