How much percentage did DK lose throughout the day? I seem to remember him in the mid 70s when I went to bed, but now he's dropped below 65%
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3%

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Im just saddened that an entire DK match went by and not a single DK Rap is posted.
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Leon's Quest For Ultimate Glory:
1. Tripling Gordon Freeman.

Yes, well, we DID discuss the coconut gun.
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But did you mention it fired it spurts?
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Leon's Quest For Ultimate Glory:
1. Tripling Gordon Freeman.

err fired in. Wow you think I would of saw that in a 8 word post.
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Leon's Quest For Ultimate Glory:
1. Tripling Gordon Freeman.

Soul's analysis had the DK rap.
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Donkey Kong vs. Sam Fisher - Bracket: DK - Vote: DK (16/17)

If he shoots ya... it's gonna hurt.
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Do you guys think Leon will get his RE4 pic when he faces Gordon? Because if he does, he'll destroy Gordon.

Leon, at the least, will be getting 70% against Freeman -- assuming, of course, that Freeman doesn't increase from Half-Life 2 or something. But I could very well see a tripling actually happening. Leon isn't going to be weak by any means, I really don't know how someone could expect him to.

As for the picture, I'm expecting the picture that has been all over the place, including the American box art.

http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/2787/leon4js.jpg

That one can very easily be found with a Google search of "Leon Kennedy." I would expect CJayC to use that one.

Also not to mention that Half Life 2 came out since the last contest, which could actually help Gordon out a bit.

Even with Half-Life 2 coming out, it could only serve to make his beat down slightly less embarassing. He has zero chance of actually winning that match, so it isn't like it really matters. As unfortunate as it is, Leon's path is set in stone from the beginning. Demolishing Freeman and losing to Mega Man.

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So they're finally here, performin' for you
If you know the words, you can join in too
Put your hands together if you wanna clap
As we take you through this monkey rap. Huh!

D. K.! Donkey Kong!

He's the leader of the bunch. You know him well.
He's finally back to kick some tail!
His coconut gun can fire in spurts
If he shoots ya, it's gonna hurt!
He's bigger! faster! and stronger too!
He's the first member of the DK crew!
D. K.! Donkey Kong! HEY!
D. K.! Donkey Kong is here!

This Kong's got style, so listen up dudes!
She shrinks in size to suit her mood!
She's quick n' nimble when she needs to be
She floats in air and climbs up trees!
If you choose her, you won't choose wrong
With a skip and a hop, she's ONE COOL KONG!

D. K.! Donkey Kong!
D. K.! Donkey Kong is here!

He has no style, he has no grace
This Kong has a funny face
He can handstand when he wants to
And stretch his arms out just for you!
Inflate himself just like a balloon
This cra-zy Kong just digs this tune! HEY!
D. K.! (D. K.!) Donkey Kong!
D. K.! (D. K.!) Donkey Kong is here!

He's back again, and about time, too
And this time, he's in the mood!
He can fly real high
with his jetpack on
With his pistols out, he's one tough Kong!
He can make you smile when you hear his tune
But, Kremlings beware 'cause he's out after you!
D. K.! Donkey Kong!
D. K.! Donkey Kong is here!

Finally, he's here for you!
It's the LAST member of the D. K. crew!
This Kong's so strong, it isn't funny!
Can make a Kremling cry out for Mummy!
He can pick up a boulder with relative ease
Makes crushing rocks seem such a breeze
He may move slow; he can't jump high
But this Kong's one hell of a guy!
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Round 1: (0) Voters

Leon is gonna be weak.

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Is there a reason for thinking this?
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Leon's Quest For Ultimate Glory:
1. Tripling Gordon Freeman.

I'd take him over Lloyd at least, though.
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Summer Contest 2k5 - Points: 16/17
Donkey Kong Vs. Sam Fisher - Bracket: DK - Vote: DK

Leon is gonna be weak.

He'll only be weak when comparing him to Link, who in turn makes 95% of the contestants in this contest look weak.

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Mario's Path to Victory: Round 2 - (4) Ness
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I take him atleast 53-47 over Kratos. Really I have a tough time in an Alucard/Leon match.
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Leon's Quest For Ultimate Glory:
1. Tripling Gordon Freeman.

I think Leon is overrated. I'd expect him to be doubled by Mega Man.
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nominate Jay Solano for sc2k6.

From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 8/5/2005 11:21:56 PM | Message Detail | #285
Actually, he's a 6. And yes, I'm well aware of what you meant. I also take that theory with a huge grain of salt, because it's clear that CJayC got rid of the 9-16 seeds to only allow the strongest characters he could into the bracket (minus guys like KoaC and Manny, of course).

What "theory"? This is absolutely not a "theory", it makes no sense at all to call it that.

There's 64 characters in a contest. If seedings are related to nominations, it is impossible for a 6 seed in an 8 division bracket to be the same as a 6 seed in a 4 division bracket in terms of quantity nominations.

Only if seedings were random (or inverse) would anything else be true.

That's just what seeding is. A 6 seed in an 8 division bracket is the equivalent of an 11th at best in a 4 division bracket, period.
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I think Leon is overrated. I'd expect him to be doubled by Mega Man.

If he gets doubled by Mega Man, that'll put him a bit below the Alucard/Sora duo.
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Summer 2005 Contest - 16/18 points
Current Match Prediction: Kefka vs. Tommy Vercetti

I think Leon will be a beast. RE4 has mass casual support + a great deal of support from more hardcore gamers + great sales + it coming from an already established series + everyone who played it likes Leon. A recipe for success if you ask me.
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I think CJay did it because a 6 seed might get more votes than 14 seed just with people picking the higher seeded character.

Of course this theory is completely unfounded.
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Leon's Quest For Ultimate Glory:
1. Tripling Gordon Freeman.

creative, you're the same guy that defended Kefka's bad performance against Mithos by calling it a 1-8 match instead of a 1-16 match.

~*ST*~
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"If my fate is to be destroyed... I must simply laugh!" -Magus

that'll put him a bit below the Alucard/Sora duo.

Do you mean right under those two? Because Mega Man couldn't double neither one of them.
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Summer Contest 2k5 - Points: 16/17
Donkey Kong Vs. Sam Fisher - Bracket: DK - Vote: DK

From: Sir Crono | Posted: 8/5/2005 11:47:17 PM | Message Detail | #293
You know who dropped from a 3 seed last year to a 6 seed (equivalent to an 11) this year?

Ryu Hayabusa. I think he did just fine.

Wasn't Ryu a nomination example last year?
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I wish Leon would get a pic with his jacket.
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It's not like seeding matters all that much anyway, especially when you have 8 divisions of 8.

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"If my fate is to be destroyed... I must simply laugh!" -Magus

I think Leon is overrated. I'd expect him to be doubled by Mega Man.

If you use adjusted Mega Man, he would end up near Vercetti (~24%). If you use unadjusted Mega Man, he ends up near KOS-MOS (~22%). In either case, he's above fodder and Jill Valentine.

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Mario's Path to Victory: Round 2 - (4) Ness
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creative, you're the same guy that defended Kefka's bad performance against Mithos by calling it a 1-8 match instead of a 1-16 match.

...Maybe because there were only 32 characters? Yikes.
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Summer Contest 2005: 16/17
Today: Donkey Kong, Tomorrow: Kefka

As long as Leon has his flashlight on his belt, he is UNBEATABLE.
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Leon's Quest For Ultimate Glory:
1. Tripling Gordon Freeman.

...Maybe because there were only 32 characters? Yikes.

That's not the point. Seeding doesn't matter as much as some think it does, especially in the matches with middle seeding. Does it really matter if Kefka/Vercetti is a 3-6 or a 6-11 match? Honestly.

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"If my fate is to be destroyed... I must simply laugh!" -Magus

I was always told seeding doesn't mean strength and now everyone's making a big deal about it, MAKE UP YOUR MIND!!!111
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Summer Contest 2k5 - Points: 16/17
Donkey Kong Vs. Sam Fisher - Bracket: DK - Vote: DK

From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 8/6/2005 12:33:51 AM | Message Detail | #321
creative, you're the same guy that defended Kefka's bad performance against Mithos by calling it a 1-8 match instead of a 1-16 match.

Well, RPGuy already answered this (during the Spring contest, the 1st round was really the 2nd in regular contest terms; though with far weaker characters, obviously), but I don't actually know what you're talking about regarding Kefka/Mithos. Perhaps I don't recall, or maybe you're confusing me with someone?

Anyway, Mithos was no real 8 seed; but Kefka was no real 1 seed either. But in relative terms, that match was a 1 vs. 8 instead of 1 vs. 16. Maybe that's what the subject was? Though Kefka did poorly in that match regardless.
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Seeding never determines how strong a character may or may not be. We have no indication that CJayC did not tamper with the seedings to make matches far more interesting and harder to predict. It'd be foolish to believe that the nominations put these characters into the position that they're in.

Honestly, why are you people even arguing over something like seeding?

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Mario's Path to Victory: Round 2 - (4) Ness
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The point is that Vercetti had significantly less nominations this year relative to the previous years. Which you were apparently trying to refute. Whether that will have an impact on his strength is up to you, but the fact that he is so easily forgotten doesn't bode well, if you ask me.
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Summer Contest 2005: 16/17
Today: Donkey Kong, Tomorrow: Kefka

I say CJay tampers with the seeds more than we know.
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Leon's Quest For Ultimate Glory:
1. Tripling Gordon Freeman.

From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 8/6/2005 12:45:01 AM | Message Detail | #330
That's not the point. Seeding doesn't matter as much as some think it does, especially in the matches with middle seeding. Does it really matter if Kefka/Vercetti is a 3-6 or a 6-11 match? Honestly.

Not particularly, but then, that was never the subject.

I was saying how the "Vercetti being in the tourney again indicates his strength remained unchanged" idea is somewhat flawed, because he did receive substantially lower seeding.
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What about Knuckles? 2k4 Ryu?
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Summer Contest 2k5 - Points: 16/17
Donkey Kong Vs. Sam Fisher - Bracket: DK - Vote: DK

I was saying how the "Vercetti being in the tourney again indicates his strength remained unchanged" idea is somewhat flawed, because he did receive substantially lower seeding.

Because he had to split the nominations with CJ.
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Summer 2005 Contest - 16/18 points
Current Match Prediction: Kefka vs. Tommy Vercetti

Because he had to split the nominations with CJ.

I already mentioned this as possible in my original post (though really, since we have 10 nominations, IMO this shouldn't be an issue except with something like FF7).

The basic idea still stands though; just because Vercetti made it back doesn't, by itself, mean that his fanbase's interest in him remained constant.
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...Seriously, what's stopping people from nominating both?
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They only have 10 nominations. Now if they really love GTA, they will nominate both. But for people who like GTA along with many other things, nominating both becomes less likely.
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Leon's Quest For Ultimate Glory:
1. Tripling Gordon Freeman.

Again, does any of this really matter anyways? Even IF Vercetti didn't get as many nominations, and even IF his fans may not like him as much as they used to, do you think they wouldn't still vote for him at ALL? And especially against Kefka?
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Honestly, I haven't heard a good reason for thinking that Vercetti dropped because of GTA: San Andreas. Like Ulti mentioned, that's like saying Cloud would drop every time a new FF game comes out.
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Summer 2005 Contest - 16/18 points
Current Match Prediction: Kefka vs. Tommy Vercetti

Haha a new FF game coming out, funny joke.
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Leon's Quest For Ultimate Glory:
1. Tripling Gordon Freeman.

If you're talking to me, I don't think that Vercetti dropped because of San Andreas. I think he might have dropped because I don't see him as the type of character with longevity.

As for seeding, people are really overstating the nature of the overstating! We're not really even talking about seeding. No one around here cares much about seeding.
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The moral of today's story is seedings truly don't matter. Otherwise all 4/5 matches would be real close.
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Summer Contest 2k5 - Points: 16/17
Donkey Kong Vs. Sam Fisher - Bracket: DK - Vote: DK

While I'm thinkin' about it, I wanna go ahead and make the guess that Kerrigan/Vincent is gonna have the highest vote-total of the first round.
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...Seriously, what's stopping people from nominating both?

Yeah, and even better; like therealmmm sort of said, what's stopping people from voting for them when they're not even facing each other, and never will this contest? You people are using logic a toddler would laugh at.

This match will be close, but none of you Kefka supporters are doing a good job of actually supproting Kefka.
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While I'm thinkin' about it, I wanna go ahead and make the guess that Kerrigan/Vincent is gonna have the highest vote-total of the first round.

That honor will go to Magus/Knuckles.
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Summer 2005 Contest - 16/18 points
Current Match Prediction: Kefka vs. Tommy Vercetti

From: Tai
You people are using logic a toddler would laugh at.

I could go so many places with this, but I think just requoting it is enough.
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Leon's Quest For Ultimate Glory:
1. Tripling Gordon Freeman.