Oh that reminds me, Kefka was also in the 20XX division...

Kefka and Vercetti got extrapolated through Mega Man, so we won't get anything from that match.
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No because Dr. Wily is in the background of Marvel vs Capcom and Proto Man is no where to be seen except as the worse card in Card Clash.

Just got back from school, I see that MC has finally doubled CATS. But still.... dang.

And yes, my school started today. Florida and their weird school schedule...
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Master Chief 68% 37242
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TOTAL VOTES 54764

Chief hits 68%...finally.
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Just got back from school, I see that MC has finally doubled CATS. But still.... dang.

What? Right now he's barely underperforming.
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Huzzah for the Chokemeister!
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Finally we're coming to some matches where the victor isn't perfectly clear.

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It doesn't look like CATS is going to be able to keep MC under that 70% now. Still an impressive performance for a piece of complete fodder, even though his pic obviously is helping.
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What? Right now he's barely underperforming.

I know. I just... gah, I don't know what I feel, just that "dang" is a pretty suitable word to sum it all up.

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It doesn't look like CATS is going to be able to keep MC under that 70% now.

Actually, Master Chief is still a good deal off pace for 70%. Master Chief is currently only pulling in ~71.5% of the incoming votes when he needs ~72.7%. Unless this match gets a lot mroe votes later on, or Master Chief starts getting a larger percentage of the votes, he won't break 70%.
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But so far 6 20XX Characters and all six underperforming from what we thought they would do.

You're going to be in for a real treat when Zelda gets 55% on Snake.
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You might want to switch Zelda and Snake's names around. You know, just for realism.
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"or Master Chief starts getting a larger percentage of the votes"

Haven't you people ever watched a MC match before?
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I still don't get it though, how did CATS suddenly became so strong?

He has been relatively constant all the way to 2k4, but then suddenly... he jumps...

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I don't think anyone has mentioned this yet...

http://nikon.bungie.org/newsbyday.html?date=20050804

Even with a link, MC is still doing this horribly. Ouch.
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At the 13:15 mark, this match has 60,329 votes.

Ness/CJ - 62,977
Riku/Frog - 56,399
Kratos/Alucard - 58,333
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If my UTC conversion is correct, that link was posted at about 10:30 GameFAQs time. It's had 4 hours to take effect, and the Chief still isn't looking to break 70%.
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I love it when the same people who call the extrapolated stats reliable have to come up with all sorts of explanations and "factors" to justify them whenever something unexpected happens. Same Fanbase Factor, Pic Factor, West Division Factor, 20XX Division Factor, The Jug Factor, Nintendo/Square Factor, Day-Of-The-Week Factor, Battle.Net factor. This character was overrated, this character was underrated, and this one overperformed for no real reason. Bracket voting, anti-voting, franchise voting, anti-champion voting, "top name on the poll" voting, etc.

You guys are hilarious.

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CATS from "All your Base?"?
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Same Fanbase Factor, Pic Factor, West Division Factor, 20XX Division Factor, The Jug Factor, Nintendo/Square Factor, Day-Of-The-Week Factor, Battle.Net factor. This character was overrated, this character was underrated, and this one overperformed for no real reason. Bracket voting, anti-voting, franchise voting, anti-champion voting, "top name on the poll" voting, etc.

You guys are hilarious.

You just listed practically every possible match scenario. How can it not be one of those?
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Bull****.

CATS is only kicking ass because of the PETA factor.
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CATS isn't kicking ass, he's barely overperforming the 2k3 numbers which, for those two, I've backed for a year now. Combine that with the fact that MC hasn't yet hit his peak hours and you'll clearly see this match is going to end more in MC favor then you're all giving credit for.
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What's wrong with calling him "CATS from AYB"? Would you argue that he's better known for being an actual Zero Wing character? I'd certainly hope not...

Anyways, I'm sure MC will keep rising at a decent rate. I mean, me, over-predicting an Oracle by 10%+? That's unpossible!

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From: Lucid Faia | Posted: 8/4/2005 4:24:45 PM | Message Detail | #268
I love it when the same people who call the extrapolated stats reliable have to come up with all sorts of explanations and "factors" to justify them whenever something unexpected happens. Same Fanbase Factor, Pic Factor, West Division Factor, 20XX Division Factor, The Jug Factor, Nintendo/Square Factor, Day-Of-The-Week Factor, Battle.Net factor. This character was overrated, this character was underrated, and this one overperformed for no real reason. Bracket voting, anti-voting, franchise voting, anti-champion voting, "top name on the poll" voting, etc.

You guys are hilarious.

You have got to be kidding.

Really, you just embarrassed yourself.

This is what I posted last topic, BEFORE this match:

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From: creativename | Posted: 8/4/2005 1:49:57 AM | Message Detail | #438
I was all for Master Chief increasing a lot from Halo 2. Possibly into the 30+% strength range. But with this pic...jeez. I can't see him getting over 77% at most. Even if CATS is at only 15% with this picture, and MC is at 32%, Master Chief won't break 77%. And I think that 16%/30% are more reasonable. The math really indicates MC getting in the low 70's here. Especially since I doubt MC would fall near his max value due to this horrendous picture.

I honestly think CATS has a shot to break 30% here.
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From: creativename | Posted: 8/4/2005 2:03:29 AM | Message Detail | #443
There's nothing that outlandish about him getting close to 30% if you do the math. His spring least squares value was 16.9%; you can take that as his "face pic" value. If Master Chief is at 28% then CATS breaks 30%. I think that 16.9% is too high for CATS, but he's really not as weak as his reputation. And while I think XBox hate/Master Chief hate has died down, that picture would support an underperformance. Add in the fact that there's some people who believe that MC's position in last year's stats is misleading, and a Master Chief underperformance seems quite possible.

I really have a tough time seeing MC get into the high 70's here. This is similar to CJ/Ness; the math makes the consensus expectations somewhat tough to believe.
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As I said before, it was the numbers that flat-out indicated Master Chief would not perform to expectations. Just like CJ/Ness.

How someone could draw a completely backward conclusion from this result, when it was so evident to me beforehand, is beyond me.


As for Master Chief's strength, give FACE a value of 16% and a final result of 31% in this match, and Master Chief ends up at 25.8%; give FACE a value of 16.9% and he ends up at 27.2%. Under the 30% that I would have pegged him at before the contest, but not unexpected.

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*points to 69.87% oracle prediction*
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From: ChichiriMuyo | Posted: 8/4/2005 4:44:43 PM | Message Detail | #272
Combine that with the fact that MC hasn't yet hit his peak hours and you'll clearly see this match is going to end more in MC favor then you're all giving credit for

What RPGuy posted was pretty convincing. Master Chief isn't going to increase his proportion that much from where he already is. Like he said, 71% for MC is highly unlikely. Chief won't be moving up much more than a couple points.
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Really, you just embarrassed yourself.

This is what I posted last topic, BEFORE this match:

Who is talking to you? I know I wasn't.

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CATS isn't kicking ass, he's barely overperforming the 2k3 numbers which, for those two, I've backed for a year now. Combine that with the fact that MC hasn't yet hit his peak hours and you'll clearly see this match is going to end more in MC favor then you're all giving credit for.

Well, when times exactly do you consider Master Chief's peak hours? Master Chief has been floating around the 71% of incomine votes for a few hours now.
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This is MC's peak time. It actually started about an hour and a half ago.
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From: Lucid Faia | Posted: 8/4/2005 4:54:15 PM | Message Detail | #277
Who is talking to you? I know I wasn't.

Don't make aggressive, untrue posts without expecting to be called on them.

You make a post attacking something for your own amusement, even when your logic was tremendously flawed in an obvious manner.

The only factor needed here is "we should have seen this coming" factor.
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And that really all just means that CATS might look like he's at 15% but MC is unchanged from 2k3... or dropped, but "whatever" on that one.
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Don't make aggressive, untrue posts without expecting to be called on them.

You make a post attacking something for your own amusement, even when your logic was tremendously flawed in an obvious manner.

The only factor needed here is "we should have seen this coming" factor.

Way to assume I'm talking about the match, creativename. My post was little more than a random rant. Seeing all of the discussions about 20XX and adjusting characters reminded me of how often I had seen conversations like that, and so I decided to post my thoughts, because I find the site of people listing off factors and random explanations humorous, when a couple of them are the same people that told me a long time ago that the stats are very reliable and nearly every match falls within a margin of error without fail. Not once did I mention Master Chief/CATS. And you say I'm embarrassing myself.

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Poor, Chief. I was hoping he would do good too. This is just pathetic.

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these "oh, the stats are meaningless" rants always come during times when things aren't going the way people are expecting. they never happen when the stats are right on.

nobody looks at the stats as being 100% perfect.

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From: Lucid Faia | Posted: 8/4/2005 5:08:40 PM | Message Detail | #282
Way to assume I'm talking about the match, creativename. My post was little more than a random rant. Seeing all of the discussions about 20XX and adjusting characters reminded me of how often I had seen conversations like that, and so I decided to post my thoughts, because I find the site of people listing off factors and random explanations humorous, when a couple of them are the same people that told me a long time ago that the stats are very reliable and nearly every match falls within a margin of error without fail. Not once did I mention Master Chief/CATS.

Then you picked a real odd time for your rant.

And name names. Who, exactly, are these people who have unwavering religious faith in the Xstats? I don't know of a single person like that. You rant at ghosts.


And you say I'm embarrassing myself.

Oh boy...the old turn-it-around-on-the-other-guy ploy. Let's stick with logic here, not games.


I really don't want to act aggressive and junk here, but your original post truly annoyed me.

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From: transience | Posted: 8/4/2005 5:15:23 PM | Message Detail | #286
these "oh, the stats are meaningless" rants always come during times when things aren't going the way people are expecting. they never happen when the stats are right on.

nobody looks at the stats as being 100% perfect.

But the numbers did predict this particular result better than people's expectations. That's the odd part.

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yeah, I'm not sure why. maybe people still think CATS has a ceiling. this is completely unsurprising to me - Zelda getting 60% on Vivi ranks as the most surprising event thus far.
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Definitely—Zelda vs. Vivi was very surprising, and not easily explained from the Xstats framework.
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That depends. If she can split the votes with snake evenly then it'll fit right in.
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I've got to leave right after this post for a parade, but...


http://nikon.bungie.org/newsbyday.html?date=20050804


...heh, I'm surprised they mentioned it, considering my GFA experiment that resulted in this:

Arbiter vs Mega Man
Over at GameFAQsASCII.com, there's a Character Battle - Arbiter vs Mega Man. Only 75 people have voted at this point - wouldn't take much to sway this one. Thanks, Harrison. (I gotta say, I really don't understand the point of polls like this; I'm posting this one because we got a half-dozen emails about it, and I want them to stop. In fact, I think I'll take this opportunity to lay down new HBO policy - after this one, we won't be mentioning Character Battle-type polls any more here. So go vote in this one; it's the last one we'll cover.) (Louis Wu 11:36:34 UTC)



Now, I'm out. Damn MC for not doing better, even if cn DID call it. =P
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Donkey Kong will break 40% on MC with ease... possibly, dare I say, 45%?
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As an aside, what do Super Metroid, Disgaea, Doom 3, Super Mario Sunshine, Half-Life 2, Halo 2, Resident Evil 4, Goldeneye, GTA: San Andreas, Mortal Kombat 2, GTA: Vice City, Half-Life 2 (again), Battlefield 2, Goldeneye (again) and San Andreas (again) have in common?

Answer is they're the #1 answers in a "favourite video game ever" topic I'm running on the forums of another very well known website. I'll post the full findings when I'm done with it, but for now:

- the casuals love their violence, especially their FPS's
- the casuals have short memories
- stating the obvious is fun
- I'm showing the most love for Chrono Trigger in that nobody else has mentioned it at all :-)
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Doom 3? Bleh.
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Donkey Kong will break 40% on MC with ease... possibly, dare I say, 45%?

It's DK. I wouldn't be at all surprised to see him lead MC for a while in the night before having another 50/50 match >_>
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WTF?

I just got home after not eating for two days, and having sticky node type things stuck on my pubes by incompetent nurses. And no doubling? This is blasphemy at it's worst.

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Donkey Kong will break 40% on MC with ease... possibly, dare I say, 45%?

It's DK. I wouldn't be at all surprised to see him lead MC for a while in the night before having another 50/50 match >_>

That'd rock. Also, going by the 2003 xstats, DK is projected to score about 48% on the Chief... We'll just have to wait and see :)

(Vote for Donkey Kong, if you would)
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And no doubling? This is blasphemy at it's worst.

Oo

Master Chief is well past the doubuling point.
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From: Undeniable | Posted: 8/4/2005 10:35:10 PM | #295
Doom 3? Bleh.

Bleh indeed. At least the first FF7 vote is now in :-)
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