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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 181
From: Slowflake
| Posted: 8/4/2005 5:55:58 AM | Message Detail
This... is priceless. Chief being projected to get murdered by DK next
round? That would be hilarious... except we all know it's because of
CATS' face pic. With just a name and the eggplant pic, no one would
recognize him as the AYB guy. With the pic that made it all around the
'net, on the other hand... well, let's just say a static Master Chief
would have him break the VFL.
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From: Dunkeroo23
| Posted: 8/4/2005 6:03:21 AM | Message Detail
man, does this mean CATS can actually win a match next year if he gets a better seed?
*shudders at the thought*
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From: Slowflake
| Posted: 8/4/2005 6:04:52 AM | Message Detail
As long as he keeps the face pic... why not?
If CJayC comes back to full body pics next round, I suggest he sticks CATS in a TV like he did for Kane in 2002.
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If CJayC comes back to full body pics next round, I suggest he sticks CATS in a TV like he did for Kane in 2002.
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From: dragoontheguy
| Posted: 8/4/2005 6:05:39 AM | Message Detail
well, let's just say a static Master Chief would have him break the VFL.
Adjusted, or unadjusted? Either way it would be funny as hell if CATS was strong enough to be considered worthy of making a comeback for more then just an ever continuing fad. Based off of Ansem in the spring contest what would is gannon projected to get on CATS? I'm wondering, because if it's around 70% then MC is definitely stronger considering CATS avoided the eggplant pic again.
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Adjusted, or unadjusted? Either way it would be funny as hell if CATS was strong enough to be considered worthy of making a comeback for more then just an ever continuing fad. Based off of Ansem in the spring contest what would is gannon projected to get on CATS? I'm wondering, because if it's around 70% then MC is definitely stronger considering CATS avoided the eggplant pic again.
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From: Slowflake
| Posted: 8/4/2005 6:06:56 AM | Message Detail
Ganondorf on CATS through Ansem? Something like 77%...
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From: dragoontheguy
| Posted: 8/4/2005 6:10:04 AM | Message Detail
That much? Ouch. We might need to wait until Crono vs. MC to make any
solid conclusions on CATS. The data on donkey kong isn't exactly
reliable given that vivi vs. zelda makes seph vs. vivi look very
unreliable.
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From: Gooper Blooper
| Posted: 8/4/2005 6:12:23 AM | Message Detail
*looks at poll results*
I'm now convinced stats mean next to nothing.
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I'm now convinced stats mean next to nothing.
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From: Fossil
| Posted: 8/4/2005 6:12:25 AM | Message Detail
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v257/Zepheros/Gif%20Humor/ALYBBTMC.jpg
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From: Slowflake
| Posted: 8/4/2005 6:12:37 AM | Message Detail
And to answer that question, I didn't bother giving MC the benefit of
the doubt and knocked a few points off of him. Either way, CATS is
still doing FAR better than he was against Ansem through Ganondorf. Of
course, MC still has lots of time to rise, and he'll keep on doing so
until the poll closes...
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From: dragoontheguy
| Posted: 8/4/2005 6:15:50 AM | Message Detail
I didn't bother giving MC the benefit of the doubt and knocked a few points off of him.
That's reasonable. A 6% increase is ridiculous considering there was no reason for him to increase. I was just wondering because adjusted MC always seemed way to high to me. He might be at that level now, or possibly a bit higher after halo 2, but I think the frog/mc/crash/liquid snake foursome was overrated last year.
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That's reasonable. A 6% increase is ridiculous considering there was no reason for him to increase. I was just wondering because adjusted MC always seemed way to high to me. He might be at that level now, or possibly a bit higher after halo 2, but I think the frog/mc/crash/liquid snake foursome was overrated last year.
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From: Heroic Viktor
| Posted: 8/4/2005 6:18:10 AM | Message Detail
This is just embarrassing. I have been getting blitzed lately with the spread between winner and loser.
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From: dragoontheguy
| Posted: 8/4/2005 6:18:49 AM | Message Detail
After watching the morning vote taking effect (and it isn't even in
full swing yet given it's what, 5 or 6 on the west coast?) MC well
probably break 70%. He's just really, really weak early on. His
weakness early on is comparible to old school squares weakness in the
daytime, and is possibly even worse.
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From: dragoontheguy
| Posted: 8/4/2005 6:23:16 AM | Message Detail
Master Chief 64% 13363
CATS 36% 7518
TOTAL VOTES 20881
Still in need of another 6%.
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CATS 36% 7518
TOTAL VOTES 20881
Still in need of another 6%.
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From: Ngamer64
| Posted: 8/4/2005 6:25:16 AM | Message Detail
Will this be the biggest Night Vote/Day Vote turnaround in Contest
history? I'd say it's got a shot, as I fully expect MC to take off like
a rocket any moment now (if he hasn't begun already).
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From: dragoontheguy
| Posted: 8/4/2005 6:27:52 AM | Message Detail
2% in three hours isn't jawdropping impressive, but it's not a bad
start. He'll be taking off hugely with the day vote. That's when
anything xbox tends to shine, and when cats just sort of rolls over and
dies.
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From: dragoontheguy
| Posted: 8/4/2005 6:36:57 AM | Message Detail
MC has gone up .1% in each of the last two five minute updates. Looks like he's finally taking off.
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From: Phediuk
| Posted: 8/4/2005 6:59:28 AM | Message Detail
Holy crap, CATS is doing really good. o_o
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From: Phediuk
| Posted: 8/4/2005 7:14:12 AM | Message Detail
I also think that Master Chief dropping so much makes no sense. He was
the star of the most hyped game of all time last year. If any game
would boost a character, Halo 2 would be it.
It's not hard to see: in the villain contest and in this one, CATS got his vastly more recognizable face pic and did way better. Pics make a difference for characters like CATS.
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"Thank you, Mario. But our princess is in another castle."
-Toad in Super Mario Bros.
It's not hard to see: in the villain contest and in this one, CATS got his vastly more recognizable face pic and did way better. Pics make a difference for characters like CATS.
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From: Master Moltar
| Posted: 8/4/2005 7:17:38 AM | Message Detail
Morning guys.
HA! CATS was able to hold a bit during the night. Looks like Chief will finally pass 65% by time I've posted. Still, very impressive for CATS. Looks like Face CATS could actually be a decent competitor, or DK > MC
>.>
<.<
Fine, I'll stop with that.
Now I'll just sit back and watch this ugly morning vote go.
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Master Chief vs. CATS - Bracket: MC - Vote: CATS (15/16)
HA! CATS was able to hold a bit during the night. Looks like Chief will finally pass 65% by time I've posted. Still, very impressive for CATS. Looks like Face CATS could actually be a decent competitor, or DK > MC
>.>
<.<
Fine, I'll stop with that.
Now I'll just sit back and watch this ugly morning vote go.
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Master Chief vs. CATS - Bracket: MC - Vote: CATS (15/16)
From: Tatsumaki Senpuu
| Posted: 8/4/2005 7:19:23 AM | Message Detail
. . .
I have no idea where to even begin on this. Mercy, this is one horrible performance from Chief. You cannot even begin to explain something like this.
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I have no idea where to even begin on this. Mercy, this is one horrible performance from Chief. You cannot even begin to explain something like this.
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From: Tatsumaki Senpuu
| Posted: 8/4/2005 7:25:14 AM | Message Detail
Master Chief 65.02% 16794
CATS 34.98% 9035
TOTAL VOTES 25829
Over 65% for the Chief.
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CATS 34.98% 9035
TOTAL VOTES 25829
Over 65% for the Chief.
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From: transience
| Posted: 8/4/2005 7:27:08 AM | Message Detail
MC pulled 69% of the votes in the last hour. this will probably hit like 72% before it's over.
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nominate Jay Solano for sc2k6.
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nominate Jay Solano for sc2k6.
From: Prometheus321
| Posted: 8/4/2005 7:33:43 AM | Message Detail
*tag*
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VOTE: BOWSER in the Summer Contest
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From: HaRRicH
| Posted: 8/4/2005 7:35:40 AM | Message Detail
It doesn't require explaining, it just requires waiting for the after-school vote. =P
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From: meche313
| Posted: 8/4/2005 7:40:50 AM | Message Detail
Although it was an impressive run for CATS on the night vote, MC is
just beating the hell out of him, and he will most likely all day long.
The more he keeps increasing, the better for my awful pick.
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That's right. Cloud N. Candy would get a NEGATIVE percentage, and RPGuy's extrapolated calculator would crash. - therealmnm
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That's right. Cloud N. Candy would get a NEGATIVE percentage, and RPGuy's extrapolated calculator would crash. - therealmnm
From: FastFalcon05
| Posted: 8/4/2005 7:56:36 AM | Message Detail
As for the pic factor...as I've stated before, when you change the
way things look, it affects things. That's just marketing. Marketing is
all about creativity, testing/experimenting, and statistics.
Until we have actual data (a split test with multiple match pics used randomly for the same match), it is unscientific to make a blanket statement that "pics don't matter." This simply can't be said. And the little concrete data we do seem to have is for CATS, where his pic obviously does matter (and this should've been apparent to all before this match took place).
Anyway, I really have no idea why we're rehashing this whole pic factor discussion again. There's nothing new that needs to be said here.
Basing pic factor off of one weak character is a flawed way to do something. It's looking at an extreme case to justify a mean result. I agree with your last statement and arrive at my same conclusion.
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Until we have actual data (a split test with multiple match pics used randomly for the same match), it is unscientific to make a blanket statement that "pics don't matter." This simply can't be said. And the little concrete data we do seem to have is for CATS, where his pic obviously does matter (and this should've been apparent to all before this match took place).
Anyway, I really have no idea why we're rehashing this whole pic factor discussion again. There's nothing new that needs to be said here.
Basing pic factor off of one weak character is a flawed way to do something. It's looking at an extreme case to justify a mean result. I agree with your last statement and arrive at my same conclusion.
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From: voltch
| Posted: 8/4/2005 7:59:56 AM | Message Detail
so is it possible for this match to reach 100k?
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From: Yesmar
| Posted: 8/4/2005 8:04:15 AM | Message Detail
it just requires waiting for the after-school vote. =P
What after-school vote? It's August 4th.
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What after-school vote? It's August 4th.
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From: Master Moltar
| Posted: 8/4/2005 8:05:22 AM | Message Detail
Well, at 08:00, this match had 29,428 votes
Ryu/Rikku - 32,434
Bowser/Chun - 30,968
Tidus/King - 30,954
Ness/CJ - 30,026
So only if this match gets a spike in votes later.
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Master Chief vs. CATS - Bracket: MC - Vote: CATS (15/16)
Ryu/Rikku - 32,434
Bowser/Chun - 30,968
Tidus/King - 30,954
Ness/CJ - 30,026
So only if this match gets a spike in votes later.
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Master Chief vs. CATS - Bracket: MC - Vote: CATS (15/16)
From: charmander6000
| Posted: 8/4/2005 8:11:06 AM | Message Detail
About the pic factor.
CATS won't be as high as SpC2k5 because of his picture
CATS won't be as low as SC2k4 because of his picture
Ansem = High Fodder
CATS = Low Fodder
Therefore many people don't know them and use pictures.
Master Chief = Halo/Xbox guy
Meaning the average voter has heard of or liked Master Chief and will more likely vote for him over the picture vote.
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I've been Pwned by KoaC. He really is the king of all cosmos.
CATS won't be as high as SpC2k5 because of his picture
CATS won't be as low as SC2k4 because of his picture
Ansem = High Fodder
CATS = Low Fodder
Therefore many people don't know them and use pictures.
Master Chief = Halo/Xbox guy
Meaning the average voter has heard of or liked Master Chief and will more likely vote for him over the picture vote.
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I've been Pwned by KoaC. He really is the king of all cosmos.
From: Kagato Toujou
| Posted: 8/4/2005 8:18:12 AM | Message Detail
Master Chief 66.04% 20584
CATS 33.96% 10583
TOTAL VOTES 31167
Chief FINALLY gets 10000+ on CATS.
CATS 33.96% 10583
TOTAL VOTES 31167
Chief FINALLY gets 10000+ on CATS.
From: Adept_Of_Aiur
| Posted: 8/4/2005 8:31:56 AM | Message Detail
Guys, I figured out why CATS is doing so well.
This link is on the homepage of MSN.com today:
http://tech.msn.com/?GT1=6774
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This link is on the homepage of MSN.com today:
http://tech.msn.com/?GT1=6774
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From: Slowflake
| Posted: 8/4/2005 8:34:45 AM | Message Detail
CATS won't be as high as SpC2k5 because of his picture
Except, you know, he's already higher.
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Except, you know, he's already higher.
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From: swirldude
| Posted: 8/4/2005 8:34:58 AM | Message Detail
WTF? Microsoft is rallying for votes AGAINST their icon?!?!?
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From: Dunkeroo23
| Posted: 8/4/2005 8:35:36 AM | Message Detail
L O L
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From: Kagato Toujou
| Posted: 8/4/2005 8:35:45 AM | Message Detail
WTF? Microsoft is rallying for votes AGAINST their icon?!?!?
Feh. There's not even a link to the contest.
Feh. There's not even a link to the contest.
From: swirldude
| Posted: 8/4/2005 8:36:19 AM | Message Detail
You can't take a joke.
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From: Kagato Toujou
| Posted: 8/4/2005 8:37:57 AM | Message Detail
You can't take a joke.
Duh.
Not that I was taking you seriously either, y'know?
Duh.
Not that I was taking you seriously either, y'know?
From: HaRRicH
| Posted: 8/4/2005 8:40:46 AM | Message Detail
What after-school vote? It's August 4th.
For what it's worth, my home town's high school opened up yesterday. I know not EVERY school is open...but I'm sure several are. Besides, school or not, that's when the Xbox vote is strongest.
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For what it's worth, my home town's high school opened up yesterday. I know not EVERY school is open...but I'm sure several are. Besides, school or not, that's when the Xbox vote is strongest.
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From: swirldude
| Posted: 8/4/2005 8:42:03 AM | Message Detail
For what its worth, our county is stupid enough to start school on Monday.
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From: Dunkeroo23
| Posted: 8/4/2005 8:43:30 AM | Message Detail
ugh, you just had to remind me of school:(
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From: HaRRicH
| Posted: 8/4/2005 8:49:03 AM | Message Detail
My bad, dunk.
Master Chief is still killing CATS; I wish I could see the Xbox vote take place on him (even if I did vote for CATS, heh), but I gotta both work and lead a parade. Win some, lose some. =/
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Master Chief is still killing CATS; I wish I could see the Xbox vote take place on him (even if I did vote for CATS, heh), but I gotta both work and lead a parade. Win some, lose some. =/
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From: Adept_Of_Aiur
| Posted: 8/4/2005 8:49:59 AM | Message Detail
Why the hell don't we call it the after-camp vote during the summer?
Then just say it starts 5:30 EST, which makes much more sense.
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From: HaRRicH
| Posted: 8/4/2005 8:51:14 AM | Message Detail
GameFAQers, camping? Does not compute.
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From: Adept_Of_Aiur
| Posted: 8/4/2005 8:52:17 AM | Message Detail
GameFAQers, camping? Does not compute.
It makes plenty of sense. Outside of the social boards, most GameFAQers are the type who would go to camp. And the sterotypes who would vote for MC DEFINITELY go to camp.
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It makes plenty of sense. Outside of the social boards, most GameFAQers are the type who would go to camp. And the sterotypes who would vote for MC DEFINITELY go to camp.
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From: HaRRicH
| Posted: 8/4/2005 8:55:35 AM | Message Detail
I dunno; when I think of camp, I think of those 4-H camps where you
stay from Monday through Friday without computers. I know that's not
the same camp you're thinkin' of here, but that's probably always gonna
give me that impression. What I don't like about that term more than
anything is when the transition from after-camp to after-school should
be made, should after-camp ever be used...and I think that'd be delving
a bit too deep for the stretch here.
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From: Adept_Of_Aiur
| Posted: 8/4/2005 8:58:04 AM | Message Detail
Well, most camps close 2 weeks before the end of August, so it would
stop being after-camp around August 17th, and start being after school
September 5th, which is when almost every school will have started.
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From: swirldude
| Posted: 8/4/2005 8:58:23 AM | Message Detail
GameFAQers, camping? Does not compute.
Sure it does. Ever play an FPS with them?
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From: HaRRicH
| Posted: 8/4/2005 8:58:36 AM | Message Detail
Master Chief 66.67% 23573
CATS 33.33% 11787
TOTAL VOTES 35360
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CATS 33.33% 11787
TOTAL VOTES 35360
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From: HaRRicH
| Posted: 8/4/2005 9:00:00 AM | Message Detail
Well, whatever the case may be, I'm gonna go on to work. Just because
it was asked the other day, I'll bring it back up now...CATS versus
King Of All Cosmos, who wins?
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Lewis Black: Namely as valued contributors to our re-election fund.
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Hillary Clinton: We need to treat violent video games the way we treat tobacco or alcohol.
Lewis Black: Namely as valued contributors to our re-election fund.