I sure as hell won't, I took that pick. Remember, I was the biggest supporter of a widescale Mario boost from the beginning.

Yup, with all of your "Mario's gonna get a boost from Mario 64 DS!!" You used that reasoning for almost every match. I just hope your right, because Mario deserves to win this contest...
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OMG how is SFII losing!?
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Chun-Li can still end up stronger than Bison before it's all said and done. Bowser would be expected to get a tad over 66% on him going by the Villains Contest.
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Every time I see someone post "Chunners," I will finish in the Top 5 in another contest, effectively cutting your chance of winning anything by an additional 10%.
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Yup, with all of your "Mario's gonna get a boost from Mario 64 DS!!" You used that reasoning for almost every match. I just hope your right, because Mario deserves to win this contest...

You know it. :D
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Oh ****, I forgot this IS supposed to be Street Fighter's best time, heh. Yeah, Chun-Li better do what she can now to keep her drop from being so rock-like come noon.
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Oh and for reference, now that Diablo II has a new patch and heavy rumors of a Diablo III starting to be made, I've discarded my chances of Kratos>Diablo happening.
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I'm a newbie at this, but why is this SF's best time? And sucks at mid-day?
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I'm a newbie at this, but why is this SF's best time? And sucks at mid-day?

Those are just the voting patterns. We can't really explain them that well. Fighting game fans play stay up late and die during the day?
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From: Sir Crono | Posted: 8/2/2005 3:13:34 AM | Message Detail | #253
Chun-Li can still end up stronger than Bison before it's all said and done. Bowser would be expected to get a tad over 66% on him going by the Villains Contest.

But there were plenty of people in this topic I was debating with who thought it was completely laughable of me to think that Bison >= Chun-Li. Just totally dismissive of it.

And Bowser's not going to drop too much from here, if he drops at all. He's good during the day and SF2 is best at night.
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It's something about Europe; I think they're crazy about SF there, from what I understand.
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Basiclly, its all guesswork.
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MasterMage's Tidus Vs. King of All Cosmos analysis:

Well folks, this is about as big an open and shut case as we're going to see. King will undoubtedly be high-end fodder at best, and Tidus has put in some nice matches against Shadow and Ganondorf, so there's really no question about this one OMG WAIT. MARIO GOT A BOOST FROM SM64DS.

Prediction: King of All Cosmos with 67.14%
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Fighting game fans play stay up late and die during the day?

I think it's the European factor, personally. Those guys love their Sonic/Capcom characters.

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Wow, never knew that....

You guys should make a page on voting patterns like the Acronyms. =P
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I would, but voting patterns aren't as consistent as they used to be. They're still there, but you can't really call them clockwork anymore.

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I believe Chun-Li might get it down to as low as 64%-65%, then lose a couple points during the day.
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Ya know, now that I think about it...maybe it's not SF being strong with Europe as it is others who're not strong with Europe. I know SF2 led on SMRPG for awhile in the morning...and I think Ryu/Bison were more dominant in the night than KOS-MOS/Albedo were, too. If memory serves me right, SMRPG and neither Xenogears nor Xenosaga were released in Europe.

I dunno about the rest of SF-related matches, but that might be worth considering.
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Check the patterns on Ryu vs Sonic for confirmation or dispelling of that.
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Time for some comparisons.

Sp2k5 Bowser
54 Fox McCloud 21.83
55 Bomberman 21.65
56 Viewtiful Joe 21.56
Chun-Li 21.54
57 Dr. Wily 21.27
58 Nemesis 21.20
59 Jak 21.08

2k3 Bowser
65 Duke Nukem 19.82
66 Lara Croft 19.77
67 Pac Man 19.64
Chun-Li 19.41
68 Servbot 19.40
69 Vyse 19.36
70 Bub 19.28

Should this hold, I will be increasingly happy about my Bowser to the Final Four pick.
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Today: Bowser, Tomorrow: Ryu

Bowser 68.24% 1706
Chun Li 31.76% 794
TOTAL VOTES 2500

Bowser's percentage is consistently falling
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If Ulti's right, Sonic/Ryu wouldn't matter; Europe loves 'em both there, according to him.
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Does anyone have a rough number of what Bowser would need to get on Chun Li to make Bison technically > Chun Li?
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Should this hold, I will be increasingly happy about my Bowser to the Final Four pick.

I was never really worried about it once I chose it. It's just so annoying that it has to balance perfectly so that Snake is stronger than Zelda but weaker than Bowser, who is stronger than Ryu and Tidus, while Tidus manages to still be stronger than Kirby.
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So the people who are on the Leaderboard with people like CATS or Dante to win... are those just very lucky favorites brackets?
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in europe people generaly like fighting games. i mention FF7 to someone and they say they never heard of it. i mention a fighting game like SF and they know what i'm talking bout
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It's just so annoying that it has to balance perfectly so that Snake is stronger than Zelda but weaker than Bowser, who is stronger than Ryu and Tidus, while Tidus manages to still be stronger than Kirby.

You were doing so well, until that last part.
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If Ulti's right, Sonic/Ryu wouldn't matter; Europe loves 'em both there, according to him.

That's why it WOULD matter. If Ryu still did better at this time than any other against Sonic, than it's just flat-out SF's best time regardless of the opponent.
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From: HaRRicH | Posted: 8/2/2005 3:23:23 AM | Message Detail | #272
If Ulti's right, Sonic/Ryu wouldn't matter; Europe loves 'em both there, according to him.

Sonic is to Europe what Mario was to Japan and the USA (thus, Europe keeps allowing Sonic Team to think that their games are good... just let the damn series die already before Sonic becomes the next Mega Man), and those guys are pretty hardcore about their Capcom fighting games.

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You were doing so well, until that last part.

And I originally had Kirby>Tidus too.
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...Sonic characters generally don't win the night vote. Ever.
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So the people who are on the Leaderboard with people like CATS or Dante to win... are those just very lucky favorites brackets?

That or ineligible brackets who wanted to get on the leaderboard with a "funny" winner.
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On a related note, this "winning the [...] vote" phrase is overused and horrible. Unless a character is pulling in over 50% of the vote, they aren't winning anything.

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So the people who are on the Leaderboard with people like CATS or Dante to win... are those just very lucky favorites brackets?

They are probably pseudo-favorites bracket. Everything about them is like a prizes bracket except they choose one character to win the entire contest instead of losing when they should.
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Right, but what I was gettin' at is that Sonic could have matched his increased performance, thus making any possible increase in night vote potentially unnoticable. I haven't checked the updates out though, nor am I goin' to ('bout to go to bed soon).
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Much easier to say "Winning the ___ vote..." than "Doing better with regards to performance during the ___ vote relative to other periods of the day..."
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Sonic is to Europe what Mario was to Japan and the USA (thus, Europe keeps allowing Sonic Team to think that their games are good... just let the damn series die already before Sonic becomes the next Mega Man), and those guys are pretty hardcore about their Capcom fighting games.

I never knew Sonic and SF had that kind of longevity going for 'em there. Amazing what one can find in a stats topic.

I need to go to bed, but while it's on my mind, Ulti, you may want to throw in the Black Mage Factor for the Acronyms page. Vivi/DK argues for it and Vivi/Zelda argues against it, but it's definitely been used alot.

Now, I'm goin' to bed...Chun-Li or Protoman, who wins?
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For the record, Sonic/Ryu was about 50/50 for the first 3+ hours (with Ryu leading for a large portion of the time). Sonic didn't get a 100 vote lead until nearly 3 hours and 15 minutes in.
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From: creativename | Posted: 8/2/2005 3:29:45 AM | Message Detail | #286
Much easier to say "Winning the ___ vote..." than "Doing better with regards to performance during the ___ vote relative to other periods of the day..."

Except that "Winning the ____ vote" is stupid and incorrect. You'd think the stats topic of all places wouldn't be on par with the "The percentage for the loser is going up, therefore the loser is coming back" people. That's seriously what the former phrase implies.

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Sonic is to Europe what Mario was to Japan and the USA (thus, Europe keeps allowing Sonic Team to think that their games are good... just let the damn series die already before Sonic becomes the next Mega Man),

Yeah, before you know it we'll have a Sonic Mega Collec... oh crap.

It's too late. The Europeans have ruined everything.
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You'd think the stats topic of all places wouldn't be on par with the "The percentage for the loser is going up, therefore the loser is coming back" people. That's seriously what the former phrase implies.

That's what it would imply to someone who's not familiar with the term, but pretty much everyone in the stats topic knows what that means, and nobody uses that term outside of here, I don't believe.
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For the record, Sonic/Ryu was about 50/50 for the first 3+ hours (with Ryu leading for a large portion of the time). Sonic didn't get a 100 vote lead until nearly 3 hours and 15 minutes in.

There we have it.

And why the hell wasn't I around for this? I'd have been a very happy camper for 3 hours. :(
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Well, I expect Bowser to end the match with about 70%. Night all.
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G'night.

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Bowser's no longer doubling Chun-Li.
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I have a feeling Bowser will lose percentage through out this match... or maybe that's just wishful thinking. >,>

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Well, she's under the doubling at least, for however long that'll be...
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From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 8/2/2005 3:32:56 AM | Message Detail | #290
Except that "Winning the ____ vote" is stupid and incorrect. You'd think the stats topic of all places wouldn't be on par with the "The percentage for the loser is going up, therefore the loser is coming back" people. That's seriously what the former phrase implies.

That's not what "winning" implies; winning implies getting the majority of the vote, not lowering the percentage, which is why it's technically misused. But the latter concept you criticize is actually true. If the percentage is going up, then obviously that does indicate a comeback of some sort. You have to come back in percentage before coming back in votes. And a shift in percentage indicates momentum; it usually means a systematic shift in voting patterns. You can see all the big comebacks coming long before the trailing party actually starts reducing the gross vote lead.
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