who thinks that if chun-li performs a tad better than expected people are gonna go RYU>BOWSER BOOK IT cause this board does do this kind of thing often

Not just that, but if Chun hits over 40% (I'm expecting 38-42% myself) I can see a lot of 'Bowsers doing bad/underperforming' topics popping up as well.

After this and Manny Calavera, I think it couldn't be that Snake and Tidus are doing horribly, but rather that so-called cult characters coupled with interesting pics aren't that bad as long as they have fans.

This leads me to think Tidus is still likely to beat Kirby, and Samus is going to dominate the contest.

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I'm not sure I'd call Yuri's picture particularly interesting, though. It wasn't bad, but it was not on the level of interest of KoaC or Manny.
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Raiden fact of the contest: Alucard is a plagiarist, this year Raiden will prove it!

Seems my prediction for Bowser is like, 60 on the dot. 41-42% wouldn't worry me.
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So I said "Supercollide her? I just met her!"

From: Lopen | Posted: 8/1/2005 1:05:10 PM | #303
I'm not sure I'd call Yuri's picture particularly interesting, though. It wasn't bad, but it was not on the level of interest of KoaC or Manny.

I suppose, but I know what happens when someone tries to put too much significance on the pic factor in this topic.

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I wouldn't be too nervous if Chun-Li even breaks 45% on Bowser. She's been around just as long as Ryu, has starred in (I think) just as many Street Fighter games, and is almost, if not just as recognizable amongst fans of the series and casuals in general. The only thing she lacks is the contest experience.
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Oh ya, and the breasts.
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Ryu's been around 5 years more than Chun Li.

And you'd be kidding yourself if you think those five years mean anything. In terms of popularity, the Street Fighter series began with Street Fighter 2.
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Ryu starred in... god knows how many games, Chun's always been there beside him, except in the original, but no one cared about that one anyway.
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Chun wasen't in New Genatraion and Double Impact either.

True, but Chun was also Shadow Lady, so she counts as double in MvC.
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That would be counting double for Evil Ryu, Shin Akuma, Violent Ken ect.

Chun-Li has been in every SF game except the original and the first two SFIII games. The fact that she was added to the third one should testify to her popularity among the fanbase.

As long as she gets over 40% on Bowser tomorrow, I'll be pleased.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Contest 2005 Championship
Round 1: (7) Geno

At the 13:20 mark, this match has 64,656 votes.

Ness/CJ - 63,439
Riku/Frog - 56,858
Auron/Big Boss - 60,989
Kirby/Cecil - 55,827


...This match is on pace for 100,000 votes? I'm impressed.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Contest 2005 Championship
Round 1: (7) Geno

You see her boobs in the SF movie.

So she wins.
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So I said "Supercollide her? I just met her!"

Animated one of course.
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So I said "Supercollide her? I just met her!"

I would think she would be closer than Bison than Ryu, so 60% sure seems like a wonderful guess.

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RIP: Tnote827 - 4/4/2005
SC2k5 - 14/14 (empty slots in brackets suck)

Wow, We expected the King to be under 25% by now.
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The King of all Cosmos' route to summer victory:
Round 1: (4) Tidus... LET ME DREAM :

you guys know katamari damacy never made it to Europe, right? it's no surprise the King got destroyed by the Europe vote.
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metroid: zero mission - 28:50
http://speeddemosarchive.com/mzm.html

"...if Ryu does better on Rikku than Bowser on Chun Li."

Too bad that's what should happen anyway.
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"Love forever, love is free. Let’s turn forever you and me." - Gorillaz "Feel Good INC"

"you guys know katamari damacy never made it to Europe, right?"

I was unaware, and actually thought the opposite. When I went to my sister's wedding we had lunch with her and one of her brides maids who lives in London and she was the only person who had played Katamari Damacy (I had just bought myself a copy and was showing it to my new brother-in-law, which is how it got brought up).
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"Love forever, love is free. Let’s turn forever you and me." - Gorillaz "Feel Good INC"

KoaC and Big Boss lost with similar percentages against FFX characters. And both won their matches at Gamefaqsascii.

SEPARATED AT BIRTH
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So I said "Supercollide her? I just met her!"

Tidus 73% 49936
King of All Cosmos 27% 18474
TOTAL VOTES 68410

And The King has gotten back to 27%. Guess I should have kept my 72.83% Oracle prediction <_<

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RIP: Tnote827 - 4/4/2005
SC2k5 - 14/14 (empty slots in brackets suck)

Was I the only person who actually undershot Tidus's % in the oracle challenge? Heh. I think I was the lowest pick of the bunch.
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So I said "Supercollide her? I just met her!"

I guess it's pretty safe to assume that Tidus isn't going to triple the King. Good.

Heh, good thing my oracle challenge prediction for Tidus was 74.56%.
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Summer 2005 Contest - 11/13 points
Current Match Prediction: Tidus vs. King of all Cosmos

How, how, how, how HOW is this loser keeping Tidus under 73%?

I did not think this would happen at all. (unrecognizable) Cecil is almost certainly going to be weaker than KoaC...that's just disgusting.
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Well, the King apparently has a hardcore backing, and he's recent. Plus, I wouldn't rule out some Tidus anti-voting. At this high of a percentage, it could have an effect.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Contest 2005 Championship
Round 1: (7) Geno

What % were you expecting Tidus to have at this point, creativename? As for Cecil's ranking in the stats, you could always blame linearity for it.

The King > creativename
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"Love forever, love is free. Let’s turn forever you and me." - Gorillaz "Feel Good INC"

I'd still take Cecil over the King. I think everyone here would. Tidus obviously gets anti-voted, and cult characters like the King generally do better against elite characters due to them having a following. heck, I'd vote the King over anyone in this contest.

here's the real question: CATS and the King, who wins?
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metroid: zero mission - 28:50
http://speeddemosarchive.com/mzm.html

Based on this, unless Tidus took another huge dive, the King would win.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Contest 2005 Championship
Round 1: (7) Geno

I think I'd take CATS. he's better known than the King is.
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metroid: zero mission - 28:50
http://speeddemosarchive.com/mzm.html

Cats is like an internet legend. Also, seeing as they would draw on the same premise, I don't think KoAC would stand a chance.

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Here's why I think he is more popular then you are giving him credit for.

- He got a high seeding => lots of nominations

- Look at all the sour users. People like him and are passionate about him doing well.

- Plenty of users will have picked him over Tidus. He is far from a joke character and those less knowledgeable gave him a chance.

- His game has been on the Faq list and will go down as one of the gems of 2005. (or maybe 2004..)

- Since when has poor sales damaged characters in these contests? Look at Lloyd, Vyse and KOS-MOS. While they aren't that strong, they certainly aren't fodder. I would expect the king to be in the same tier as those above.

1. Seeding/Noms =/= contest strength. There are more examples to this rule than exceptions. Terra, who got in practically on the board noms earned an 8th seed. That was from ~100 Noms which is a drop in an ocean of the 100k votes cast every match.

2. It doesn't matter how sour a user is. They still can only vote once. Contest strength is not measured on fervor.

3. Games=/=Contest Strength CJ's game has owned 3 of the top 5 slots on the top 10 yet he's going to fall around the VFL.

4. First off, Lloyd is a weakling. He's slated to fall under the VFL, which is named after Vyse for a reason. He is the level of fodder. Vyse gets quadded+ by only the 2nd strongest characterin the contest. As for KOS-MOS, she is one level up on the toher 2 you named. there is no way King is getting even close to 30% on Ryu.

There. Your argument's been shot. Happy?

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Spring Contest 2k5 Score: 76/80 T-117th

Based on Tidus 2004, KoAC is currently at 14.72% on Link, nearly equal with Gordon Freeman. He would be projected to get 54.61% on CATS.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Contest 2005 Championship
Round 1: (7) Geno

"They still can only vote once."

*chuckles*
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"Love forever, love is free. Let’s turn forever you and me." - Gorillaz "Feel Good INC"

I would absolutely take the King over CATS. And if I was promised that picture of Cecil, I would take the King over Cecil without even thinking twice.

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SC2k5 - 14/14 (empty slots in brackets suck)

I love how people are trying to defend this performance from Tidus.

Face it people. Tidus is going to have the fight of his life against Kirby and then if he wins, he will roll over and die for Bowser/Ryu.

Here is the real question. At this point who would you take:

Zelda or Tidus?
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"Why would the boost from AC be bigger than those?" - Mac Arrowny
"Because (Heroic Mario) just replayed Final Fantasy VII." - Lucid Faia

This is not looking good for Tidus. I honestly can't imagine The King being anything more than absolute fodder. He's not even the main character or anything.
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"Heh Heh... The wind... It is blowing..."--Ganondorf Dragmire

I honestly can't imagine The King being anything more than absolute fodder.

Well, he is.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Contest 2005 Championship
Round 1: (7) Geno

well, some people are taking Zelda over Snake right now, so it's a bad time to ask that question. most people would take Snake over Tidus, so I'd expect Zelda over Tidus as well.

I would take Zelda, and would have before today.
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metroid: zero mission - 28:50
http://speeddemosarchive.com/mzm.html

KoaC is fodder. Complete fodder. Kirby/Tidus will prove that.

Come on he is a NON PLAYABLE CHARACTER from a cult game that isnt an RPG.

If that doesnt spell disaster, what does?
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"Why would the boost from AC be bigger than those?" - Mac Arrowny
"Because (Heroic Mario) just replayed Final Fantasy VII." - Lucid Faia

The King is the most visable and vocal character from one of the most critically acclaimed games of last year, a game that has been advertised and hyped so much as a "cult favorite" and "sleeper hit" that it can no longer be considered either.

Face it. The King isn't fodder.
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Never forget. Never forgive.

Zelda, obv. I would have taken her over Tidus befor ethe contest started.
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"Love forever, love is free. Let’s turn forever you and me." - Gorillaz "Feel Good INC"

don't tell me you'd take the Prince over the King because you play as the Prince and not the King. that's comical.
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metroid: zero mission - 28:50
http://speeddemosarchive.com/mzm.html

The King is the most visable and vocal character from one of the most critically acclaimed games of last year, a game that has been advertised and hyped so much as a "cult favorite" and "sleeper hit" that it can no longer be considered either.

Face it. The King isn't fodder.

It doesn't matter what you do or how you do it in a gaem. It doesn't necessarily covnert into contest strength.

All that matters is the numbers, and currently, KoaC is slated to fall severely udner the VFL.

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Well, the King is fodder. It's just possible that he's not low end fodder. Tidus/Kirby will tell the story.

Skies of Arcadia's sales numbers are atrocious, even when you put both releases together. Vyse still gets enough support to get about 20% on Link. It's not that difficult to believe the King could be around that level, if not below. Even based on Tidus 2003, he's below Vyse. 18.54% on Link, to be exact, between Conker and Crash Bandicoot.
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The King is the most visable and vocal character from one of the most critically acclaimed games of last year, a game that has been advertised and hyped so much as a "cult favorite" and "sleeper hit" that it can no longer be considered either.

Face it. The King isn't fodder.

If Vyse can beat The King, then he's fodder. How many here would honestly take The King over Vyse?
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