But is it dropping like a rock?

Nah, just decreasing very slowly.

As always, the afternoon/night vote tend to prefer Square.

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Btw, does anyone has sales numbers for Katamari Damacy?

Or at least how does it compare to say, Grim Fandango?

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From: sidharta | Posted: 7/31/2005 3:39:05 PM | #302
Btw, does anyone has sales numbers for Katamari Damacy?

Or at least how does it compare to say, Grim Fandango?

I really want to know that, too.

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Oh. My. God.
Did the PS2's light just change color...?!

KD I believe has sold somewhere around 150,000 copies.
Grim Fandango has sold close to 500,000 copies.
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"Why would the boost from AC be bigger than those?" - Mac Arrowny
"Because (Heroic Mario) just replayed Final Fantasy VII." - Lucid Faia

Katamari Damacy actually sold pretty well, due to word of mouth. Grim Fandango...did not.
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"Thank you, Mario. But our princess is in another castle."
-Toad in Super Mario Bros.

Grim Fandango didn't even sell 100,000 copies, from what I understand. =\

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Mario's Path to Victory: Round 2 - (4) Ness
http://img129.imageshack.us/img129/135/cunningplan32kw.jpg

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Too verify I cant find an actual legit source, but Ive found two places which say 450,00+ for Grim Fandango. It didnt sell well at first, but apparently sales picked up after a while. A little too late for it.
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"Why would the boost from AC be bigger than those?" - Mac Arrowny
"Because (Heroic Mario) just replayed Final Fantasy VII." - Lucid Faia

Tidus better hope to get at least about 80% on KoaC if he wants to beat Kirby... tripling an FF character is no easy thing to do.
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Vote for Yoshi
You have no chance to survive make your time.

Sure it is. Just a get an unrecognizable picture of a Final Fantasy character not many know.
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Board 8: Where people treat each other right.

Yeah, I guess you're right. Still, Tidus still better hope that he can absolutely kill KoaC. I think Kirby vs. Tidus will be pretty close.
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Vote for Yoshi
You have no chance to survive make your time.

I really don't think Tidus is going to have any great deal of difficulty. I mean, it'll be close, but it won't be in question for most of the match. That's the impression I've gotten from that match since the moment I saw it.
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Currently: 12/13 | Next: Tidus

Unlike Sora vs. Agent 47, it's impossible for me to imagine Tidus not destroying The King. Agent 47 is a well liked star of a series that has a few million copies under it's belt; King is a NPC in a game that gets insane board love. The problem is that this board love won't translate into thousands of votes. He'll lead for a minute then get thrashed. Tidus with 80%.
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Board 8: Where people treat each other right.

And another Square bites the dust. Not surprised with Cecil though, seeing his pic completely sucks and people probably have no clue where he's from.

Nintendo is looking strong so far, though the first half of the bracket does feature the powerhouse Big N characters and only a few high end Square characters. (Auron) The Square powerhouses are all tucked away in the second half of the bracket.

Its is funny that the only way the most powerful Nintendo and Square characters can meet is in the finals, and only 2 will be able to...

I'm still looking forward to Mario/Samus cause that match will determine the championship really...

I'd kinda like to see Zelda make the Finals, actually...>_>
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"Opinions are like butts, little girl. Everyone's got one and nobody thinks their's stink." -Lunar 2:EB
*Claims KG's Eclair & Millia Rage*

One thing, if next round is indeed sprites. And it comes down to Solid **** VS 8-bit Zelda...does that give Zelda an edge, or does it even out?
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"Opinions are like butts, little girl. Everyone's got one and nobody thinks their's stink." -Lunar 2:EB
*Claims KG's Eclair & Millia Rage*

One thing, if next round is indeed sprites. And it comes down to Solid **** VS 8-bit Zelda...does that give Zelda an edge, or does it even out?

Probably evens out, if they use Zelda's 8-bit picture.
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Today's subliminal thought is:

I think Ceej should redo the sprite pics so they have a Sprite and a normal pic. Kinda like 2k3's sprite round, only not having the normal pic in the background. Or maybe have an old-sprite and a current in-game model in tandom, similar to the Link vs. Mario 2k2 final, only with the 2 models to allow more room. Just a thought...
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Graduation: April 30, 2005 "There are only 10 kinds of people in this world, those that read binary and those that don't."

I wouldn't mind seeing something like that. Can't hurt to try something new, after all.
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Board 8: Where people treat each other right.

I think it's been said that GF outsold KD now...but I also wanna point out that, unlike GF (I think), KD got commercials. That isn't exactly a difference-maker here though, especially since I don't remember ever seeing KoaC's face in the commercials, but it's worth noting.
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Lewis Black: Namely as valued contributors to our re-election fund.

Match 14: (4) Tidus vs. (5) King of all Cosmos

Past Performances

Tidus

Summer 2002
Beat Claire Redfield, 55.46% - 44.54%
Lost to Sonic the Hedgehog, 41.17% - 58.83%
Ranked: 11th

Summer 2003
Lost to Ganondorf Dragmire, 49.32% - 50.68%
Ranked: 13th

Summer 2004
Beat Shadow the Hedgehog, 50.81% - 49.19%
Lost to Mega Man, 35.22% - 64.78%
Ranked: 20th

Spring 2005
Did not attend
Ranked: N/A

King of all Cosmos

Summer 2002
Did not attend
Ranked: N/A

Summer 2003
Did not attend
Ranked: N/A

Summer 2004
Did not attend
Ranked: N/A

Spring 2005
Did not attend
Ranked: N/A

Analysis

So the Nightmare division is the only division in this contest where the winner isn’t clearly known and three different characters could take it all. Some may say Bowser is a sure win because of the villains contest, but that contest was very wacky and both Ryu and Tidus both have a realistic chance on winning it. I personally have Tidus over Ryu as the finals, which from what I heard is very unique and only a few people on this board have the same. Today we have our first character who’s competing for the contest crown.

Wow what a match we have here. Here we have one of board 8’s favorite characters against board 8’s most hated character. You know what that means, overestimation of the favorite character! Even though KoaC has no chance to win what-so-ever, people would like to hope that he does a good job against Tidus.

Well here we have it. The weakest character in this contest, no it’s not Yuri or Agent 47 or even Jin like we thought. The board may love him, but there is no possible way he’ll escape at least a quadrupling. Katamari Darmacy is a much unknown game and is only really loved by the people who played it. Also KoaC isn’t even playable in the game and isn’t really that big in the story expect for the few minutes at the beginning. If he escapes placing in 66th or 67th place then I will be truly surprised and will honor him in my signature for one month (after the guru thing is over though).

Tidus is a really weird character. In 2k2 and 2k3 he was mostly the same and was high up in there and would be the favorite to take this division. Then he went against Mega Man in 2k4 and did really poorly. Something really weird happened on this match, I don’t know what happen, but something did happen. He was about 1% off from what he’s expected to get on Shadow in round 1 and I don’t believe that both of them went down by almost the exact percent. Tidus doesn’t even have to gain all of his percent that he lost; even if he only gains half as much as he lost he’ll be around Ryu and Bowser’s strength.

There is going to be a lot of whining for tomorrows match as the anti-Tidus and the KD fanboys are going to be in shock on the beating Tidus will give to KD. As for my last words, Tidus is like SSBM “he can lose in round 1 or make it to the Final 4”, but he’s not going to lose in round 1.

charmander6000’s Bracket: Tidus over King of all Cosmo

charmander6000’s Prediction: Tidus wins, 86.34% - 13.66%

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Btw I will stand true with my word.
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17 handhelds Nintendo has taken down 1 more to go (see quote for rest)

86%?! Damn, that's some serious weakness King of All Cosmos would have to have.

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Mario's Path to Victory: Round 2 - (4) Ness
http://img129.imageshack.us/img129/135/cunningplan32kw.jpg

Lost to Ganondorf Dragmire, 49.32% - 50.68%

By this percentage, Tidus should blow away King of All Cosmos. I'd say charmander's prediction is close to what it will be.
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"I'm putting them out of there misery! See? I'm the good guy now! Perspectives are so easy to change." - Raedryn

I predict Tidus will fall just short of 80%.

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So Tidus has never advanced from Round 2? Hmm.....
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That's right. Cloud N. Candy would get a NEGATIVE percentage, and RPGuy's extrapolated calculator would crash. - therealmnm

Say what you will about Terra, but she's not gonna get a random devil robot as her match pic.

Cecil bombing does bear some relevance on Terra, but do you know what bears more relevance? How FFVI has actually performed in these contests!!

The game is the sixth most popular game on the web site, and if Terra is to Kefka as Crono is to Magus then she can beat Dante.* And that's not even taking into account Lettuce Kefka. FFVI has some contest power. FFIV clearly does not.


*Ulti, you were the one who said this, and now you talk about Kekfa being "pathetic?"
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"Heh Heh... The wind... It is blowing..."--Ganondorf Dragmire

Nope, and neither has Kirby. Only one can continue from that match forward.
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Hillary Clinton: We need to treat violent video games the way we treat tobacco or alcohol.
Lewis Black: Namely as valued contributors to our re-election fund.

That's...right. Nevermind then <__<
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That's right. Cloud N. Candy would get a NEGATIVE percentage, and RPGuy's extrapolated calculator would crash. - therealmnm

A Mario/Crono potential final could actually be pretty awesome this year. If they do fight, it won't be predestined like the last couple of years and they will have had to fight strong opponents en route to this matchup. Besides, this matchup has basically been the defining moment for the Summer Contest as a whole so would make sense that they face off in the finals at least once.

*tries to avoid all the rotten tomatoes thrown at him for even hoping for this* >_>
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[Player] A bunch of JP just trained me!
[GM] Well you're still here, so they obviously didn't do it right. LBSJ

You better be wrong, charmander >_>
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The King of all Cosmos' route to summer victory:
Round 1: (4) Tidus... LET ME DREAM :

I'll be fine if Mario/Crono is the championship match; I like Mario oh-so much more than Samus anyways. I'll just be mad if Mario doesn't take the Gold home with him if that match happens.
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Hillary Clinton: We need to treat violent video games the way we treat tobacco or alcohol.
Lewis Black: Namely as valued contributors to our re-election fund.

Mario will definitely be taking the gold home.

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Mario's Path to Victory: Round 2 - (4) Ness
http://img129.imageshack.us/img129/135/cunningplan32kw.jpg

I'm guessing the king well grab a quick 30% in the first seconds of the match and readily drop the entire match afterwards. Kind of like Manny, except I fully expect the king to drop even worse (possibly to about 10%). KD isn't exactly well known amongst casuals, and the pictures I've seen of him lead me to believe e won't have much appeal amongst anyone who hasn't played KD.
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As a side-note, I'm so glad HM's now Heroic Mario again, and not Heroic Mario-though-really-I-support-ToS/MP2/FF7/Laguna-moreso. =P
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Hillary Clinton: We need to treat violent video games the way we treat tobacco or alcohol.
Lewis Black: Namely as valued contributors to our re-election fund.

Except Tidus may have enough of an anti-fanbase to prevent him from pulling insane percentages. Anti-fanbases don't matter much when facing non-fodder, but still...

...oh, and it is a miraculous coincidence that this went up today, but it's way too appropriate not to post.

http://bobandgeorge.com/Subcomics/Metroid/Archive/Metroid158.swf
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SC2K5 status - Points: 011/012 - Matches: 11/12 - Rank: 01432/33793 - Today: Kirby - Tomorrow: Tidus

I wouldn't mind seeing mario win either, but he isn't going to SFF Samus when link, the master of nintendo SFF wasn't even able to. If mario wins it well be through legitimate strength. He has every chance to increase enough to pull off a win, but this SFF everyone keeps talking about isn't going to happen.
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Besides, this matchup has basically been the defining moment for the Summer Contest as a whole

I'm thinking this contest's defining moment will be either Mario vs. Samus or Snake vs. Zelda/Bowser.
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Board 8: Where people treat each other right.

My bracket says Samus/Crono but my heart will be voting for Mario.

And wasn't he supporting Crono one year too? I forgot. :P
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[Player] A bunch of JP just trained me!
[GM] Well you're still here, so they obviously didn't do it right. LBSJ

Chrono Trigger in the Spring Contest, yeah. Outside of the Championship match, I remember him predicting its success and dominance very accurately.

Nice link from Slow, too.
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Hillary Clinton: We need to treat violent video games the way we treat tobacco or alcohol.
Lewis Black: Namely as valued contributors to our re-election fund.

and not Heroic Mario-though-really-I-support-ToS

I still think it sucks that Lloyd did so bad. ;_;

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Mario's Path to Victory: Round 2 - (4) Ness
http://img129.imageshack.us/img129/135/cunningplan32kw.jpg

Say what you will about Terra, but she's not gonna get a random devil robot as her match pic.

http://webpost.net/ff/ff6terra/ff6-terra-amano2.jpg

There's a random devil robot she could get as her pic >_>
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Welcome to Moonside. Wecomel to Soonmide. Moonwel ot cosidme.

Terra is going to get an FMV shot. So is Kefka. Whether you think that is good or bad is up to you, but they aren't going to get Amano art.
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Summer Contest 2005: 11/12
Today: Kirby, Tomorrow: Tidus

amano art?
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I hope Kefka gets the pic he had against Diablo. It looks so much better than the crap that faced Crono and Mithos.
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SC2K5 status - Points: 011/012 - Matches: 11/12 - Rank: 01432/33793 - Today: Kirby - Tomorrow: Tidus

And where's my King of All Cosmos picture? That has the potential to be the funniest pic in the whole contest.
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Summer Contest 2005: 11/12
Today: Kirby, Tomorrow: Tidus

The King needs to get a picture in which his headdress is obscuring Tidus' face >_>
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The King of all Cosmos' route to summer victory:
Round 1: (4) Tidus... LET ME DREAM :

Tidus needs his one armed pic again >_>.
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I thought the other arm was just behind him.

Can someone direct me to the original pic, please?
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SC2K5 status - Points: 011/012 - Matches: 11/12 - Rank: 01432/33793 - Today: Kirby - Tomorrow: Tidus

Nice to see people actually read my analysis.

I was thinking of how you'll act when it happens Janus while I was writing that.
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17 handhelds Nintendo has taken down 1 more to go (see quote for rest)

http://www.sc2k5.com/gallery/displayimage.php?album=2&pos=9
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