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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 176
From: Adept_Of_Aiur | Posted: 7/31/2005 12:07:33 AM | Message Detail
Of course, now Tidus will break 90% on KoaC to make the match heavily debated again.
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From: mr_BRIAN | Posted: 7/31/2005 12:07:34 AM | Message Detail
Kirby 71.9% 719
Cecil 28.1% 281
TOTAL VOTES 1000

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From: HaRRicH | Posted: 7/31/2005 12:07:48 AM | Message Detail
I think Wesker did so much worse than expected against Kefka 'cuz of both the pic and, as most of us expected, the awful vote-totals from Luca/Wesker.
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From: Keno316 | Posted: 7/31/2005 12:07:48 AM | Message Detail
Wow...Cecil is getting raped so badly...
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From: Kagato Toujou | Posted: 7/31/2005 12:07:51 AM | Message Detail
My goodness but Cecil is getting the absolute crap kicked out of him in the early going.

Kirby's not even bothering to chew him up, just spittin' the poor sucker out. Fo' sheez.
From: Rodri316 | Posted: 7/31/2005 12:08:17 AM | Message Detail
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From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 7/31/2005 12:08:17 AM | Message Detail
From: Sir Crono | Posted: 7/31/2005 12:17:40 AM | Message Detail | #434
That's 3 out of the last 4 days I've raised my eyebrows at the prediction percentages. People really expect Cecil to be weaker than Kain...?


*points to poll*

Yes they do.

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From: Rodri316 | Posted: 7/31/2005 12:08:28 AM | Message Detail
If FF6 suffered so much from being an older FF, FF4 will do so much more. I expected numbers around this level.
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Summer 2005 Contest -- Current Score: 11/12
Today's Prediction -- Kirby vs. Cecil
From: Master Moltar | Posted: 7/31/2005 12:08:50 AM | Message Detail
I am absolutely LOVING this board vote raping Kirby is pulling!

And if Cecil does bad, this might not look good for Terra's upset chances.
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Sora vs. Agent 47 - Bracket: Sora - Vote: Sora (10/11)
From: mr_BRIAN | Posted: 7/31/2005 12:08:52 AM | Message Detail
Of course, now Tidus will break 90% on KoaC

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!
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From: The Doppleganger | Posted: 7/31/2005 12:08:53 AM | Message Detail
Sora completely bombed in that match, personally. He barely broke 70% against a character with no name recognition despite having well over 85% of brackets behind him.

So what? Thats not gonna shake my faith in Sora. Whose to say Alucard didn't underperform against Kratos? Sure you can back up Kratos' rather good performance and say he's quite popular and such, but surely you can debate that Alucard has perhaps underperformed, can't you?

Alucard > Sora

I don't think so. It'll be one of the closest matches in awhile, but remember kids, Riku lost to frog by a little over THREE THOUSAND VOTES! FROG! The guy that got 47% on Solid Snake(don't give me the "omg pic was da reason" thing either, it is what it is <_<), if Riku, whose basically a villain did THAT well, Sora can do good enough to beat Alucard.
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From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 7/31/2005 12:08:54 AM | Message Detail
So, are people still expecting Terra to beat Dante?

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From: The Doppleganger | Posted: 7/31/2005 12:09:41 AM | Message Detail
Probably. I'm guessing Cecil is weaker than Kuja m'self.
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From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 7/31/2005 12:09:51 AM | Message Detail
Moltar so beat me to posting that. Compared to Moltar, I am barely an ant.

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From: Master Moltar | Posted: 7/31/2005 12:10:16 AM | Message Detail
Damn right!
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Sora vs. Agent 47 - Bracket: Sora - Vote: Sora (10/11)
From: outback | Posted: 7/31/2005 12:10:17 AM | Message Detail
From: The Doppleganger
Sora completely bombed in that match, personally. He barely broke 70% against a character with no name recognition despite having well over 85% of brackets behind him.

So what? Thats not gonna shake my faith in Sora. Whose to say Alucard didn't underperform against Kratos? Sure you can back up Kratos' rather good performance and say he's quite popular and such, but surely you can debate that Alucard has perhaps underperformed, can't you?

Alucard > Sora

I don't think so. It'll be one of the closest matches in awhile, but remember kids, Riku lost to frog by a little over THREE THOUSAND VOTES! FROG! The guy that got 47% on Solid Snake(don't give me the "omg pic was da reason" thing either, it is what it is <_<), if Riku, whose basically a villain did THAT well, Sora can do good enough to beat Alucard.


Frog is overrated in the stats. Do you really think Liquid Snake is almost as strong as Solid Snake. I, for one, don't.

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From: yoblazer33 | Posted: 7/31/2005 12:10:28 AM | Message Detail
People are overestimating all things Final Fantasy again. Hell, I just committed the same sin with my 60% Oracle prediction. Had I only asked myself "Who the **** is Cecil?" a few times, I probably would have bumped it up.
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From: RPGuy96 | Posted: 7/31/2005 12:11:27 AM | Message Detail
And if Cecil does bad, this might not look good for Terra's upset chances.

Not really. Final Fantasy VI is much, much more popular then IV. Terra should be leagues ahead of Cecil, anyway. Hell, it looks like Kefka is leagues ahead of Cecil.

This does make me feel good about Kirby > Tidus, even if there really isn't a reason to. Seeing Kirby pull in these numbers is nice.
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Summer Contest 2005: 10/11
Today: Kirby, Tomorrow: Tidus
From: Ngamer64 | Posted: 7/31/2005 12:11:31 AM | Message Detail
It was asked, and no, no Guru picked Cecil.

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From: Keno316 | Posted: 7/31/2005 12:11:43 AM | Message Detail
Wonder if Cecil will end up being Neo-Tanner...
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From: Eggplant Lord | Posted: 7/31/2005 12:11:52 AM | Message Detail
From: Rodri316 | Posted: 7/31/2005 12:08:28 AM | #058
If FF6 suffered so much from being an older FF, FF4 will do so much more. I expected numbers around this level.

Or should you say, LEVLE?!?!

MWAHAHAHAHAHA!

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From: Heroic_Cable | Posted: 7/31/2005 12:12:03 AM | Message Detail
GameFAQS must not like Spawn or something.
From: yoblazer33 | Posted: 7/31/2005 12:12:47 AM | Message Detail
Unfortunately, I don't think the Guru Challenge will be seeing much action for the next six days.
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From: Lucid Faia | Posted: 7/31/2005 12:12:48 AM | Message Detail
So, are people still expecting Terra to beat Dante?

"Expecting?" No. I still think it's a risk worth taking.

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From: creativename | Posted: 7/31/2005 12:13:36 AM | Message Detail
I can't believe people are still defending Terra>Dante.

I was upset at this high % for Kirby because I love FFIV, but I thought "Well, at least this will shut up the Terra>Dante crazies." Looks like craziness is tough to kill ;)
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From: The Doppleganger | Posted: 7/31/2005 12:13:45 AM | Message Detail
Frog is overrated in the stats. Do you really think Liquid Snake is almost as strong as Solid Snake. I, for one, don't.

Well its a given that Frog is a bit of an enigma, but the fact remains that he got 47% on Solid Snake.
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From: charmander6000 | Posted: 7/31/2005 12:15:23 AM | Message Detail
So... yah, I think I'm a little off on predicting this match. Don't worry it's only over 10%. Then again Cecil is new and nobody really had any numbers.

Also if anybody is still wondering about my opinon Tidus is still going to beat Kirby worse then Squall.

*goes to bed*
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From: RPGGamer0 | Posted: 7/31/2005 12:15:25 AM | Message Detail
It was asked, and no, no Guru picked Cecil.

Thanks for the super quick response, my good sir.


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From: RPGuy96 | Posted: 7/31/2005 12:15:27 AM | Message Detail
What does Cecil performing poorly have to do with Terra?
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Summer Contest 2005: 10/11
Today: Kirby, Tomorrow: Tidus
From: RPGGamer0 | Posted: 7/31/2005 12:16:50 AM | Message Detail
Because we all know that Cecil = Terra. >>;;


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From: RPGuy96 | Posted: 7/31/2005 12:17:15 AM | Message Detail
And who would have guessed that Kirby would do better on Cecil than Sora on Agent 47?
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Summer Contest 2005: 11/12
Today: Kirby, Tomorrow: Tidus
From: Eggplant Lord | Posted: 7/31/2005 12:17:18 AM | Message Detail
Cecil at the level of Gordon Freeman? That's just scary.

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From: Aprosenf | Posted: 7/31/2005 12:17:18 AM | Message Detail
This makes me sad. FFIV is my second favorite game ever (the first being FFVI, of course). Kirby is nearly tripling him. Jeez.
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From: The Doppleganger | Posted: 7/31/2005 12:17:27 AM | Message Detail
The point is, Sora will beat Alucard by 2 votes. Book it <_<
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From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 7/31/2005 12:17:51 AM | Message Detail
He scored 48.61% on Snake, and the Snake pic was completely unrecognizable. Chrono Trigger characters tend to overperform when their sprites are used in match pics, anyway. I don't believe for a second that the entire Frog trio is as strong as the 2004 stats suggest. Only Master Chief has a shot at confirming his number, and that's because of Halo 2.

Just like Kirby is mauling a picture that looks absolutely nothing whatsoever like Cecil from Final Fantasy 4. It makes no difference what Kirby scores, because all Cecil has to go on is his name alone. I still think that Tidus will beat him comfortably.

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From: yoblazer33 | Posted: 7/31/2005 12:18:22 AM | Message Detail
Well, unless I'm missing someone, this is our second piece of evidence that old school Final Fantasy characters absolutely suck. Terra will have to break the trend.
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From: Aprosenf | Posted: 7/31/2005 12:18:23 AM | Message Detail
Kirby 74.11% 1483
Cecil 25.89% 518
TOTAL VOTES 2001

Damn it, I had it at 2000 and then I refreshed.
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From: FastFalcon05 | Posted: 7/31/2005 12:18:43 AM | Message Detail
I can't believe people are still defending Terra>Dante.

I was upset at this high % for Kirby because I love FFIV, but I thought "Well, at least this will shut up the Terra>Dante crazies." Looks like craziness is tough to kill ;)


What does Cecil performing poorly have to do with Terra?
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Summer Contest 2005: 10/11
Today: Kirby, Tomorrow: Tidus
From: RPGGamer0 | Posted: 7/31/2005 12:16:50 AM | Message Detail
Because we all know that Cecil = Terra. >>;;


Exactly.



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From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 7/31/2005 12:18:52 AM | Message Detail
From: RPGuy96 | Posted: 7/31/2005 3:15:27 AM | Message Detail | #079
What does Cecil performing poorly have to do with Terra?


We'll see in about a week.

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From: The Doppleganger | Posted: 7/31/2005 12:19:35 AM | Message Detail
Indeed, the older FF character you are, the crappier performance you will put on. That trend works until FF7. FF7 through FF10 is just screwy.
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From: Undeniable | Posted: 7/31/2005 12:19:37 AM | Message Detail
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From: RPGuy96 | Posted: 7/31/2005 12:19:56 AM | Message Detail
Well, unless I'm missing someone, this is our second piece of evidence that old school Final Fantasy characters absolutely suck. Terra will have to break the trend.

Final Fantasy VI is much closer to Chrono Trigger than it is to Final Fantasy IV. CT characters tend to not suck, wouldn't you say?
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Summer Contest 2005: 11/12
Today: Kirby, Tomorrow: Tidus
From: FastFalcon05 | Posted: 7/31/2005 12:20:11 AM | Message Detail
Just like Kirby is mauling a picture that looks absolutely nothing whatsoever like Cecil from Final Fantasy 4. It makes no difference what Kirby scores, because all Cecil has to go on is his name alone. I still think that Tidus will beat him comfortably.

I still think Tidus will win without much fuss, but I've just never trusted pic factor as something worth discussing. However, with the older characters, as memories fade, a recognizable pic certainly wouldn't hurt.
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From: Master Moltar | Posted: 7/31/2005 12:20:15 AM | Message Detail
How about we stop all this Terra > Dante nonsense, and get to a REAL upset possibility...

Like Kirby > Tidus! >.>
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Sora vs. Agent 47 - Bracket: Sora - Vote: Sora (10/11)
From: Dilated Chemist | Posted: 7/31/2005 12:20:19 AM | Message Detail
How is Kirby with the day vote?

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From: RPGuy96 | Posted: 7/31/2005 12:21:14 AM | Message Detail
Hey, I'm behind Kirby > Tidus, too.
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Summer Contest 2005: 11/12
Today: Kirby, Tomorrow: Tidus
From: The Doppleganger | Posted: 7/31/2005 12:21:22 AM | Message Detail
*Looks at RPGuy*
But Kefka sucks, Magus is in the Noble Nine, Frogs an enimga, and uhh, Crono beats people like Mario and such <_<
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From: Dunkeroo23 | Posted: 7/31/2005 12:21:43 AM | Message Detail
Does Dante have a good chance of beating Vincent? I'm hoping the casual vote, a lot of bracket votes since he's the 1 seed, and DMC3 will put him over the top
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From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 7/31/2005 12:22:09 AM | Message Detail
Final Fantasy VI is much closer to Chrono Trigger than it is to Final Fantasy IV. CT characters tend to not suck, wouldn't you say?

Games =/= characters

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From: HaRRicH | Posted: 7/31/2005 12:22:32 AM | Message Detail
I'd like for somebody to compare how popular FF4 is to FF3/6, and I'd like for somebody to compare how often the two are talked about. I'd also like to compare the bad-ass-yet-unrecognizable Cecil to any likely pic Terra will get.

Terra's not out yet...though Dante IS likely stronger than Kirby.
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