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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 173
From: therealmnm | Posted: 7/28/2005 9:19:04 PM | Message Detail
Kratos = Kain
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From: Lucid Faia | Posted: 7/28/2005 9:19:18 PM | Message Detail
ALL of the stats are unreliable at best.

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From: Slowflake | Posted: 7/28/2005 9:22:03 PM | Message Detail
Heh, if the trend from the previous days had continued, we'd already be at part 175.

Anyway, Zelda/Lara had a huge vote turnout IIRC, and this one is headed straight for a big one too... could Zelda among the big vote drawers of the contest? Good to see she kinda held up while I was at work... if I'm not mistaken she's still ahead of Sonic based on a constant Vivi. ****ing amazing. I won't even drop a WTF if Alucard triples Kratos or loses to him... this makes no sense. But hey, the fun is in that, right?

Off-topic now, but it may interest some people: it's rumored that Diablo 3 could be announced at BlizzCon in October. Splooge.
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SC2K5 status - Points: 008/009 - Matches: 08/09 - Rank: 03492/33793 - Today: Zelda - Tomorrow: Alucard
From: RPGuy96 | Posted: 7/28/2005 9:23:18 PM | Message Detail
Not really. 2k3 predicted 2k4 pretty well.
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Summer Contest 2005: 9/9
Today: Vivi, Tomorrow: Alucard
From: SonicRaptor | Posted: 7/28/2005 9:26:31 PM | Message Detail
Off-topic now, but it may interest some people: it's rumored that Diablo 3 could be announced at BlizzCon in October. Splooge.

What? NO! I want StarCraft II damnit!
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From: Slowflake | Posted: 7/28/2005 9:34:13 PM | Message Detail
Nah, it's all about what I want.
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SC2K5 status - Points: 008/009 - Matches: 08/09 - Rank: 03492/33793 - Today: Zelda - Tomorrow: Alucard
From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 7/28/2005 9:34:35 PM | Message Detail
Three Diablos before a second Starcraft would be a disgrace.

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From: Slowflake | Posted: 7/28/2005 9:36:17 PM | Message Detail
For that we'd need to have Diablo 4 before Starcraft 2, and that simply won't happen.
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SC2K5 status - Points: 008/009 - Matches: 08/09 - Rank: 03492/33793 - Today: Zelda - Tomorrow: Alucard
From: HaRRicH | Posted: 7/28/2005 9:37:08 PM | Message Detail
I honestly don't think Starcraft 2 would live up to anybody's expectations; I'd rather them make a Diablo 3 than Starcraft 2, myself, though I don't really play Blizzard games anymore (and I only ever seriously got into SC).
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From: Eggplant Lord | Posted: 7/28/2005 9:37:13 PM | Message Detail
From: Slowflake | Posted: 7/28/2005 9:36:17 PM | #408
For that we'd need to have Diablo 4 before Starcraft 2, and that simply won't happen.

Why is that?

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From: Slowflake | Posted: 7/28/2005 9:39:21 PM | Message Detail
Starcraft's just too popular for that. Once the initial Ghost rush is done and over with, I'm sure Starcraft 2 will get in the works.
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SC2K5 status - Points: 008/009 - Matches: 08/09 - Rank: 03492/33793 - Today: Zelda - Tomorrow: Alucard
From: Master Moltar | Posted: 7/28/2005 9:42:10 PM | Message Detail
Vivi 40.3% 40296
Zelda 59.7% 59704
TOTAL VOTES 100000

100K! GG!!
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Vivi vs. Zelda- Bracket: Zelda - Vote: Zelda (8/9)
From: Tai | Posted: 7/28/2005 9:42:11 PM | Message Detail
Vivi 40.3% 40296
Zelda 59.7% 59704
TOTAL VOTES 100000


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From: Eggplant Lord | Posted: 7/28/2005 9:42:22 PM | Message Detail
Vivi 40.3% 40296
Zelda 59.7% 59705
TOTAL VOTES 100001

Dang.

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From: greatone10 | Posted: 7/28/2005 9:42:45 PM | Message Detail
I randomly clicked and got 99999 votes.
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From: Tai | Posted: 7/28/2005 9:42:57 PM | Message Detail
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

*ahem* Anyways, cheers to 100k. :-|


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From: Keno316 | Posted: 7/28/2005 10:01:01 PM | Message Detail
Ummm...soooo...where exactly does all this place Zelda in all time stats?
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From: sidharta | Posted: 7/28/2005 10:06:04 PM | Message Detail
Ummm...soooo...where exactly does all this place Zelda in all time stats?

Assuming Vivi finishes with 40.3% and that he is as strong as his un-adjusted 2k4 stats suggest:
Zelda places right above adjusted 2k4 Snake, if I did my math correctly.

If Snake doesn't increase at all from last year, Zelda > Snake becomes VERY likely.

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From: Master Moltar | Posted: 7/28/2005 10:06:39 PM | Message Detail
If I did this right...

6 Crono 38.44
7 Mario 37.94
8 Sonic the Hedgehog 36.26
Zelda 36.11
9 Ganondorf 34.99
10 Magus 34.93
11 Solid Snake 34.39


IBRPGUY!
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Vivi vs. Zelda- Bracket: Zelda - Vote: Zelda (8/9)
From: Keno316 | Posted: 7/28/2005 10:08:20 PM | Message Detail
6 Crono 38.44
7 Mario 37.94
8 Sonic the Hedgehog 36.26
Zelda 36.11
9 Ganondorf 34.99
10 Magus 34.93
11 Solid Snake 34.39



...That, is hilariously scary!!! Go Zelda!!!!
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From: HaRRicH | Posted: 7/28/2005 10:14:19 PM | Message Detail
I'm doing this one more time for comparison's sake (Zelda/Vivi shouldn't deviate much further from this now, anyways); if we were to assume Manny = Guybrush again, this puts Solid at 30.86% on Link 2k4. Whether you think Manny is weaker/equal to/stronger than Manny, your call, but this should be a decent reference to you (for the record, if Solid 2k5 = 2k4, Guybrush beats Manny with 55.06%). Just to update the comparison-list I made about two topics ago, here it is one more time now that Solid went up a lil' from my last list and Zelda's impressed. This should be a decent reference-list for comparing how Solid may or may not be surviving to the Final Four:


If Solid is 30.86% on Link 2k4:
--Zelda 2k3: Solid gets 54.26%.
--Zelda 2k5 (Vivi-through-DK 2k3): Zelda gets 52.92%.**
--Zelda 2k5 (Vivi 2k4 unadjusted): Zelda gets 50.1%.**
--Alucard 2k3: Solid gets 58.05%.
--Alucard 2k4: Solid gets 55.35%.
--Sora: Solid gets 56.31%.
--Tidus 2k3: Tidus gets 50.78%.
--Tidus 2k4 (no 20XXF): Solid gets 63.03%.
--Bowser 2k3/2k4: Solid gets 53.29%.
--Bowser Spring 2k5 (Seph 2k4): Bowser gets 53.11%.*
--Ryu: Solid gets 51.9%.

For reference, Solid-though-Manny/Guybrush facing unadjusted Solid 2k4 would go 55.06-44.94.

If Solid is 27.74% (unadjusted) on Link 2k4:
--Zelda 2k3: Zelda gets 50.89%.
--Zelda 2k5 (Vivi-through-DK 2k3): Zelda gets 58.88%.**
--Zelda 2k5 (Vivi 2k4 unadjusted): Zelda gets 55.74%.**
--Alucard 2k3: Solid gets 53.33%.
--Alucard 2k4: Solid gets 50.32%.
--Sora: Solid gets 51.39%.
--Tidus 2k3: Tidus gets 56.5%.
--Tidus 2k4 (no 20XXF): Solid gets 58.87%.
--Bowser 2k3/2k4: Bowser gets 51.97%.
--Bowser Spring 2k5 (Seph 2k4): Bowser gets 59.09%.*
--Ryu: Ryu gets 53.52%.






* - WILL be dissed by Leonhart. It's an easy conversion for me since I've done it twice, let's leave it at that.

** - Vivi/Zelda's not finished, obviously, so this is an estimate of Vivi having 40.23% at the end of this. It should be noted that Vivi'll likely finish a lil' higher than this, thus barely bringing Zelda down in those predictions.
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From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 7/28/2005 10:24:16 PM | Message Detail
Personally, I think that Final Fantasy 9 as a whole just isn't popular and that Vivi has dived in strength since last year. As awesome as me being right about Zelda having a shot at Snake is, to think that she is above Ganondorf and right on Sonic's ass in the stats is ridiculous.

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Though Kerrigan is an undoubtedly superior character to Arthas, "Arthas's Betrayal" is the best scene in any Blizzard game by far.












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From: Draco1214 | Posted: 7/28/2005 10:26:00 PM | Message Detail
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From: Draco1214 | Posted: 7/28/2005 10:28:10 PM | Message Detail
Zelda is way too close to the Noble Nine.
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Summer 2005 Contest - 8/10 points
Current Match Prediction: Kratos (God of War) vs. Alucard
From: RPGuy96 | Posted: 7/28/2005 10:28:58 PM | Message Detail
Arthas' return to Lordaeron is the best video game FMV ever.
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Summer Contest 2005: 9/9
Today: Vivi, Tomorrow: Alucard
From: Keno316 | Posted: 7/28/2005 10:29:09 PM | Message Detail
Well, according to those stats, Zelda IS in the Noble Nine...
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From: Draco1214 | Posted: 7/28/2005 10:29:26 PM | Message Detail
It seems Ulti already mentioned the possibility of Vivi dropping.
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Summer 2005 Contest - 8/10 points
Current Match Prediction: Kratos (God of War) vs. Alucard
From: Draco1214 | Posted: 7/28/2005 10:30:22 PM | Message Detail
She's 2% above Ganondorf. I don't buy that for a second.
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Summer 2005 Contest - 8/10 points
Current Match Prediction: Kratos (God of War) vs. Alucard
From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 7/28/2005 10:31:23 PM | Message Detail
There will be no Noble Nine after this contest; only the Elite Eight.

Guy: What does it for me is the music. I'm very on VG music.

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From: Dranze | Posted: 7/28/2005 10:32:06 PM | Message Detail
She's 2% above Ganondorf. I don't buy that for a second.

Why?
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Bracket: Zelda - Vote: Zelda - Points: 8/9
From: Sir Crono | Posted: 7/28/2005 10:32:16 PM | Message Detail
Ulti just hit the nail on the head for why I don't think Zelda will beat Snake. She's not touchin' Ganondorf, and she would have to get pretty close to beat him.
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From: Sir Crono | Posted: 7/28/2005 10:33:52 PM | Message Detail
Why? Ganondorf would be projected to get over 56% on her based on 2003. She's not going to be ahead of him all of a sudden.

Besides, that's the general pecking order. Hero > Villain > Leading lady/Damsel in distress
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From: Explicit Content | Posted: 7/28/2005 10:37:34 PM | Message Detail
Yeah, Vivi just plummeted in strength... there is absolutely no reason for Zelda to have increased since 2k3.

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From: RPGuy96 | Posted: 7/28/2005 10:38:45 PM | Message Detail
Moltar covered adjusted Vivi, let's take a look at the other possibilities:
6 Crono 38.44
7 Mario 37.94
8 Sonic the Hedgehog 36.26
Zelda 36.10 (adjusted Vivi)
9 Ganondorf 34.99
10 Magus 34.93
11 Solid Snake 34.39
Zelda 34.36 (unadjusted Vivi)
12 Auron 33.56
13 Zero 33.44
20XXDF Snake 33.05
14 Frog 32.10
15 Bowser 31.55
16 Ryu 31.28
Zelda 31.43 (Vivi = 2k3 DK)
17 Aeris Gainsborough 31.28
18 Tidus 30.64
19 Shadow 30.52
Unadj. Snake 30.45

If Snake is at his unadjusted 2k4 level, he has no chance to survive and he should make his time. If Vivi is as strong as the character he beat with 57% last year, Zelda still gains a percent on BL. Zelda through unadjusted Vivi is stronger then fully 20XXDF adjusted Snake, and Zelda through Vivi through DK (heh) is absurdly high.
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Summer Contest 2005: 9/9
Today: Vivi, Tomorrow: Alucard
From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 7/28/2005 10:40:29 PM | Message Detail
...or maybe this is a combination of a 3% Zelda increase and Vivi going down a lot.

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From: yoblazer33 | Posted: 7/28/2005 10:41:38 PM | Message Detail
...or maybe this is a combination of a 3% Zelda increase and Vivi going down a lot.

Definitely a combo.
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From: Keno316 | Posted: 7/28/2005 10:42:27 PM | Message Detail
...or maybe this is a combination of a 3% Zelda increase and Vivi going down a lot.

That's what I thought...
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From: sidharta | Posted: 7/28/2005 10:43:01 PM | Message Detail
Zelda increasing makes some sense, but definitely not above Ganon, that's just absurd.

I guess my gut was right when it told me that Vivi was a fluke last year, as well as Frog.

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From: RPGuy96 | Posted: 7/28/2005 10:43:10 PM | Message Detail
Besides, that's the general pecking order. Hero > Villain > Leading lady/Damsel in distress

We only have three examples of this.
Cloud > Sephiroth > Aeris
Tidus > Yuna > Sin
Link > Ganondorf > Zelda

There's not really a trend there.
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Summer Contest 2005: 9/9
Today: Vivi, Tomorrow: Alucard
From: Draco1214 | Posted: 7/28/2005 10:43:22 PM | Message Detail
I should've known that the Hand taking down Kuja would be relevant.
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Summer 2005 Contest - 8/10 points
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From: NewLib | Posted: 7/28/2005 10:44:03 PM | Message Detail
I can see Zelda increasing as much as Link but not anymore.
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From: sidharta | Posted: 7/28/2005 10:45:52 PM | Message Detail
Tidus > Yuna > Sin

That one isn't a good example, since FF X lacks a central villain, just like FF VIII.

Crono > Magus > [any CT female] is yet another example.

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From: Master Moltar | Posted: 7/28/2005 10:46:10 PM | Message Detail
Here's where Zelda goes on un-adjusted Vivi (27.05%)(With Vivi at 40.32%)

9 Ganondorf 34.99
10 Magus 34.93
11 Solid Snake 34.39
12 Auron 33.56
Zelda 33.54
13 Zero 33.44
14 Frog 32.13
15 Bowser 32.10


That gives her a 3% boost from 2003.

Let's say Vivi takes a random 2% drop. (25.05%)

14 Frog 32.13
15 Bowser 32.10
16 Ryu 31.55
17 Aeris Gainsborough 31.28
Zelda 31.06
18 Tidus 30.64
19 Shadow 30.52
20 Zelda 30.29


A 1% boost there.

Believe what you want.
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Vivi vs. Zelda- Bracket: Zelda - Vote: Zelda (8/9)
From: HaRRicH | Posted: 7/28/2005 10:47:21 PM | Message Detail
there is absolutely no reason for Zelda to have increased since 2k3.

LoZ:CE.
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From: NewLib | Posted: 7/28/2005 10:48:02 PM | Message Detail
Not only that, but unlike Gannon she has actually appeared in the TP Trailers looking rather cool.
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From: RPGGamer0 | Posted: 7/28/2005 10:48:12 PM | Message Detail
I can absolutely see Zelda being ahead of Zero, but not ahead of Bowser. >_>


~RPGGamer~
From: RPGuy96 | Posted: 7/28/2005 10:48:14 PM | Message Detail
Crono > Magus > [any CT female] is yet another example.

But Magus isn't the villain of CT, Lavos is, and I would argue that Marle or Lucca could outperform Lavos.
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Summer Contest 2005: 9/9
Today: Vivi, Tomorrow: Alucard
From: Sir Crono | Posted: 7/28/2005 10:48:28 PM | Message Detail
I still don't believe adjusting Vivi based on 2003 DK was a wise idea in the first place. He has ONE year where we have solid data on him. I don't believe that 2002 DK = 2003 DK. It doesn't make sense to me.

We can't really say anything about 2004 DK at the moment. Regardless, Zelda has no reason to make a jump even bigger than the one Link made, especially if Ganondorf didn't.
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From: Keno316 | Posted: 7/28/2005 10:49:10 PM | Message Detail
Not only that, but unlike Gannon she has actually appeared in the TP Trailers looking rather cool.

She was in actual trailers? I thought she was just in artwork...
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From: Sir Crono | Posted: 7/28/2005 10:49:15 PM | Message Detail
LoZ:CE.

*looks for a huge Ganondorf increase*

Don't see one.
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