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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 173
From: Dranze
| Posted: 7/28/2005 12:41:12 PM | Message Detail
According to my stats, Jill would only Double Gordon, but for Gordon to
be tripled, Leon would have to be around say, Sora's level.
Nonetheless, I have to give Gordon Freeman a small bit of increase too.
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Bracket: Zelda - Vote: Zelda - Points: 8/9
Nonetheless, I have to give Gordon Freeman a small bit of increase too.
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Bracket: Zelda - Vote: Zelda - Points: 8/9
From: Sir Crono
| Posted: 7/28/2005 12:42:50 PM | Message Detail
If by "way behind" you mean "a few %". Not that it matters much, the
X-Stats predicted this to actually be close. Who knows where Zelda
actually is. Maybe Mega Man "old school SFFed her"!
Get that old school SFF outta here. That should only apply to Pac-Man, since ALL he has is old school appeal.
The 2003 stats project Ganon to beat Zelda with over 56%. I couldn't see her gaining that much ground on him.
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Get that old school SFF outta here. That should only apply to Pac-Man, since ALL he has is old school appeal.
The 2003 stats project Ganon to beat Zelda with over 56%. I couldn't see her gaining that much ground on him.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Contest 2005 Championship
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From: yoblazer33
| Posted: 7/28/2005 12:43:04 PM | Message Detail
Leon won't break 60% on Gordon.
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From: Adept_Of_Aiur
| Posted: 7/28/2005 12:43:49 PM | Message Detail
If by "way behind" you mean "a few %". Not that it matters much, the
X-Stats predicted this to actually be close. Who knows where Zelda
actually is. Maybe Mega Man "old school SFFed her"!
Oh yeah... watch out boy.
That's MY theory thief!!!
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Oh yeah... watch out boy.
That's MY theory thief!!!
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From: voltch
| Posted: 7/28/2005 12:44:53 PM | Message Detail
in a gordon vs cats match who would win and how much board activity would there be?
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From: Sir Crono
| Posted: 7/28/2005 12:46:01 PM | Message Detail
...Actually, I called an "old school SFF" in Luigi/Pac-Man last year
when it happened, to explain the disparity in the stats between Kefka
and Pac-Man after only one year.
I think it's ridiculous to apply it anywhere else though.
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I think it's ridiculous to apply it anywhere else though.
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From: Lopen
| Posted: 7/28/2005 12:46:17 PM | Message Detail
That's so my theory, Master Mage! I will take no more of your lies! *slaps MM with a glove*
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Raiden fact of the contest: Alucard is a plagiarist, this year Raiden will prove it!
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Raiden fact of the contest: Alucard is a plagiarist, this year Raiden will prove it!
From: yoblazer33
| Posted: 7/28/2005 12:47:27 PM | Message Detail
Gordon would easily defeat CATS. There would probably be a lot of hype
leading up to the match, but it would die down during the day, since no
one would have realistically expected CATS to challenge Gordon.
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Board 8: Where people treat each other right.
From: kinsho3
| Posted: 7/28/2005 12:47:44 PM | Message Detail
he[Leon] is the most popular RE character.
Perhaps, but he would struggle like all hell against Jill.
And a 4 vs. 5 match with Gordon Freeman and CATS would rock. If that match were to occur, I'd have to go with Gordon. Board activity would be at a high point. Vote totals, meanwhile, would be at a low point.
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It takes a genius to make something simple truly great.
Perhaps, but he would struggle like all hell against Jill.
And a 4 vs. 5 match with Gordon Freeman and CATS would rock. If that match were to occur, I'd have to go with Gordon. Board activity would be at a high point. Vote totals, meanwhile, would be at a low point.
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From: Lopen
| Posted: 7/28/2005 12:50:05 PM | Message Detail
I'd take CATS, despite what most think, getting 45% on Ansem is no
joke. Well, okay, it's a joke, but I'm not sure Gordon Freeman could
manage it. I know I'd take Ansem over Freeman.
But my chances would be shot if they did full body pics, I think.
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Raiden fact of the contest: Alucard is a plagiarist, this year Raiden will prove it!
But my chances would be shot if they did full body pics, I think.
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Raiden fact of the contest: Alucard is a plagiarist, this year Raiden will prove it!
From: Mumei
| Posted: 7/28/2005 12:58:07 PM | Message Detail
Current match is only 2,173 behind Ganondorf vs. Yuna. ^_^
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From: Sir Crono
| Posted: 7/28/2005 1:12:50 PM | Message Detail
Continuing our tradition of unexpected results, I'm calling for at
least 43% for Kratos tomorrow, and less than 80% for Sora against Agent
47.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Contest 2005 Championship
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From: yoblazer33
| Posted: 7/28/2005 1:15:20 PM | Message Detail
and less than 80% for Sora against Agent 47.
I thought that was just logical thinking.
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I thought that was just logical thinking.
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Board 8: Where people treat each other right.
From: Draco1214
| Posted: 7/28/2005 1:15:25 PM | Message Detail
My unexpected results predictions:
1) Kratos will get around 44-45% on Alucard.
2) Tifa will double Vyse.
3) Leon will triple Gordon.
4) Ocelot will pull a Kefka and struggle with Pac-Man.
5) Luigi will struggle with KOS-MOS.
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Summer 2005 Contest - 8/10 points
Current Match Prediction: Kratos (God of War) vs. Alucard
1) Kratos will get around 44-45% on Alucard.
2) Tifa will double Vyse.
3) Leon will triple Gordon.
4) Ocelot will pull a Kefka and struggle with Pac-Man.
5) Luigi will struggle with KOS-MOS.
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Summer 2005 Contest - 8/10 points
Current Match Prediction: Kratos (God of War) vs. Alucard
From: Sir Crono
| Posted: 7/28/2005 1:16:26 PM | Message Detail
2 and 5 are expected, I think. Well, Luigi may not struggle with KOS-MOS, per se, but he shouldn't blow her out.
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From: AmazingKirby
| Posted: 7/28/2005 1:20:38 PM | Message Detail
The unexpected result in Sora's match will be that he'll get 90%.
And Zelda's lead went from 13,541 to 13,558, in 5 minutes. ;_;
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And Zelda's lead went from 13,541 to 13,558, in 5 minutes. ;_;
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From: Sir Crono
| Posted: 7/28/2005 1:21:34 PM | Message Detail
The odds of Sora breaking 90% are slim to none.
Which means he'll probably do it.
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Which means he'll probably do it.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Contest 2005 Championship
Round 1: (7) Geno
From: Draco1214
| Posted: 7/28/2005 1:23:15 PM | Message Detail
It'll be hilarious if Sora becomes one of the few to break 90% on a character. That will mean Agent 47 is weaker than Tanner.
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Summer 2005 Contest - 8/10 points
Current Match Prediction: Kratos (God of War) vs. Alucard
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Summer 2005 Contest - 8/10 points
Current Match Prediction: Kratos (God of War) vs. Alucard
From: AmazingKirby
| Posted: 7/28/2005 1:23:43 PM | Message Detail
If then trend of partystar's favorite characters doing better than expected continues, then he could do it.
Riku, Yuna, Zelda, and now Sora. And RIKKU! >_>
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Riku, Yuna, Zelda, and now Sora. And RIKKU! >_>
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From: AmazingKirby
| Posted: 7/28/2005 1:25:01 PM | Message Detail
Sora wouldn't even break 90 on Tanner? Hmm...
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From: ChichiriMuyo
| Posted: 7/28/2005 1:27:46 PM | Message Detail
"Regardless, perhaps adjusting DK by his 2003 number wasn't the
brightest idea since it's the ONLY year where he has a definite number."
We never adjusted Vivi and Dk in the 2k4 stats.
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We never adjusted Vivi and Dk in the 2k4 stats.
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From: Sir Crono
| Posted: 7/28/2005 1:29:51 PM | Message Detail
We never adjusted Vivi and Dk in the 2k4 stats.
Creative's stats don't show it (nor do they account for both years of Auron's SFF), but RPGuy's made the adjustment.
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Creative's stats don't show it (nor do they account for both years of Auron's SFF), but RPGuy's made the adjustment.
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From: ChichiriMuyo
| Posted: 7/28/2005 1:33:19 PM | Message Detail
Well, he mostly keeps those to himself. Besides, IIRC when I checked DK
was only off by like .8% if we left DK unadjusted. Can't really
remember though.
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From: transience
| Posted: 7/28/2005 1:37:19 PM | Message Detail
are RPGuy's stats posted anywhere? I'd be rather curious to see them.
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vote for vivi.
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vote for vivi.
From: Sir Crono
| Posted: 7/28/2005 1:43:57 PM | Message Detail
Besides, IIRC when I checked DK was only off by like .8% if we left DK unadjusted.
I'm pretty sure it was more than that. Otherwise, we wouldn't have bothered making an adjustment.
Actually, it was only that small if Sephy 2k4 = Sephy 2k3, if I recall correctly, which is part of the reason we didn't adjust in the first place.
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I'm pretty sure it was more than that. Otherwise, we wouldn't have bothered making an adjustment.
Actually, it was only that small if Sephy 2k4 = Sephy 2k3, if I recall correctly, which is part of the reason we didn't adjust in the first place.
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From: Dilated Chemist
| Posted: 7/28/2005 1:44:14 PM | Message Detail
New sig.
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From: Prometheus321
| Posted: 7/28/2005 2:24:33 PM | Message Detail
With Nintendo characters alll looking like powerhouses so far this year, is there a chance Kirby could beat Tidus?
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VOTE: BOWSER
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VOTE: BOWSER
From: transience
| Posted: 7/28/2005 2:26:19 PM | Message Detail
well, Kirby ain't Zelda and Tidus is a little stronger than Vivi. that
said, I changed my Kirby > Tidus back to Tidus > Kirby on the
second to last day. it's possible, but not probable.
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vote for vivi.
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vote for vivi.
From: Gooper Blooper
| Posted: 7/28/2005 2:50:20 PM | Message Detail
Looking at what's happened so far, I bet Kirby wins with 70% of the vote and then ties with Bowser.
That's just how weird this contest is.
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That's just how weird this contest is.
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Chun-Li > Bowser book it - lol_internet
Vote for Kirby in SC2K5!
From: Sir Crono
| Posted: 7/28/2005 2:51:49 PM | Message Detail
Kirby winning the division would be awesome. Unfortunately, the odds are against him.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Contest 2005 Championship
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From: Master Moltar
| Posted: 7/28/2005 2:54:24 PM | Message Detail
I'd throw away 2 points to see Kirby win. I'm tired of seeing Tidus
beat, or almost beat my favorite characters. (Shadow, Ganon, and now
Kirby)
If Kirby won, my faith in GameFAQs tastes sould be...slightly higher.
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If Kirby won, my faith in GameFAQs tastes sould be...slightly higher.
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Vivi vs. Zelda- Bracket: Zelda - Vote: Zelda (8/9)
From: Adept_Of_Aiur
| Posted: 7/28/2005 2:59:13 PM | Message Detail
If Kirby beats Tidus, I'll be pissed since I was one of the first to jump on the Kirby upset wagon, and then I changed my mind.
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From: Sir Crono
| Posted: 7/28/2005 3:02:58 PM | Message Detail
Well, Tidus and Kirby are my #2 and #3, respectively. I can be happy
either way knowing that at least ONE of them made it past the second
round, for once. Unfortunately, it can only be one of them.
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From: Dilated Chemist
| Posted: 7/28/2005 3:07:47 PM | Message Detail
I'd love to see Kirby own Tidus.
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From: JonPen1416
| Posted: 7/28/2005 3:11:13 PM | Message Detail
The more I think about it, the more I fear that the fluke is Vivi's
matches last year, not this year . . . and Kuja proves it. For whatever
reason, it just seems like the voters don't care about FFIX. But it
just doesn't make any sense for her to be this strong.
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From: Prometheus321
| Posted: 7/28/2005 3:18:03 PM | Message Detail
If Kirby beats Tidus, I'll be pissed since I was one of the first
to jump on the Kirby upset wagon, and then I changed my mind.
I'm with you on that one. I had Kirby for the longest time and then changed it over to Tidus because of all the hype of a Bowser vs Tidus match.
I just want the Dream Division to hurry up and get here so I can have so more concrete information.
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VOTE: BOWSER
I'm with you on that one. I had Kirby for the longest time and then changed it over to Tidus because of all the hype of a Bowser vs Tidus match.
I just want the Dream Division to hurry up and get here so I can have so more concrete information.
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VOTE: BOWSER
From: NewLib
| Posted: 7/28/2005 3:18:06 PM | Message Detail
Just to note we are farther away from a match that could even possibly
have an upset right now then we will be at any point of the Tournament.
Nine days until Kefka/Tommy.
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From: armitage999
| Posted: 7/28/2005 3:20:43 PM | Message Detail
I don't see Tommy beating Kefka. It's not going to be a blowout, but Kefka should put up 55% on him.
I've said CJ would pummel Ness, too. :P
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I've said CJ would pummel Ness, too. :P
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From: NewLib
| Posted: 7/28/2005 3:22:36 PM | Message Detail
I think that the line "I cast the spells that makes the people fall
down." was mentioned in this topic earlier and I seriously spent
forever trying to remember where that came from. Then I remembered. 8
Bit Theater back when it was funny.
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From: Sir Crono
| Posted: 7/28/2005 3:26:24 PM | Message Detail
I think this match pretty much confirms that Cloud didn't SFF Sephiroth at all last year, and that he did indeed drop.
But yeah, when a character is involved with potential SFF, their true strength is a mystery. Donkey Kong and Sephiroth have always been oddballs, so perhaps Vivi's placement was misjudged.
The thing is, I think DK actually increased in 2003. I don't see Aya being in the upper half of the stats in 2002, and I don't see Bub being Vyse's equal. Perhaps he benefitted from GTA anti-votes against Vercetti or something.
Actually, I just tried messing around with the stats a little bit. Setting Terry 2004 equal to Terry 2002, it moves Aya Brea down to 20.04% on Link, which in turn brings DK down to 20.47% on Link. Basing Vivi off of that value, he's at 23.51% on Link (just below 2k3 Yuna). Based on Zelda 2003, she would be projected to win with 61.19%.
Of course, a lot of that relies on DK being much stronger in 2003 than in either year, for whatever the reason, but still.
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But yeah, when a character is involved with potential SFF, their true strength is a mystery. Donkey Kong and Sephiroth have always been oddballs, so perhaps Vivi's placement was misjudged.
The thing is, I think DK actually increased in 2003. I don't see Aya being in the upper half of the stats in 2002, and I don't see Bub being Vyse's equal. Perhaps he benefitted from GTA anti-votes against Vercetti or something.
Actually, I just tried messing around with the stats a little bit. Setting Terry 2004 equal to Terry 2002, it moves Aya Brea down to 20.04% on Link, which in turn brings DK down to 20.47% on Link. Basing Vivi off of that value, he's at 23.51% on Link (just below 2k3 Yuna). Based on Zelda 2003, she would be projected to win with 61.19%.
Of course, a lot of that relies on DK being much stronger in 2003 than in either year, for whatever the reason, but still.
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From: Draco1214
| Posted: 7/28/2005 3:26:26 PM | Message Detail
If Round 2 is the sprite round, then Alucard is screwed.
It would be good since I have Sora > Alucard. >_>
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Summer 2005 Contest - 8/10 points
Current Match Prediction: Kratos (God of War) vs. Alucard
It would be good since I have Sora > Alucard. >_>
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Summer 2005 Contest - 8/10 points
Current Match Prediction: Kratos (God of War) vs. Alucard
From: ChichiriMuyo
| Posted: 7/28/2005 3:27:26 PM | Message Detail
Kirby beating Tidus wasn't out of the question before we saw this percieved trend of Nintendo rising.
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From: cyko
| Posted: 7/28/2005 3:53:53 PM | Message Detail
I'm still saying he's not getting it. Otherwise, Zelda is getting
her 8-bit sprite, too, which isn't all that pretty in its own right.
i'll agree there. Zelda's sprite isn't much to look at:
http://www.emucamp.com/jagsvgz/systems/nes/reviews/games/the_legend_of_zelda/princess_zelda.gif
ugh.
it would be absolutely criminal if Zelda got a different sprite if Snake gets his 8-bit sprite. right now, i'm calling Snake vs. Zelda still up in the air. AND Snake/Zelda vs. Sora is still up in the air.
forget seeing Zelda in the Final Four - how messed up would it be to see SORA in the Final Four?
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i'll agree there. Zelda's sprite isn't much to look at:
http://www.emucamp.com/jagsvgz/systems/nes/reviews/games/the_legend_of_zelda/princess_zelda.gif
ugh.
it would be absolutely criminal if Zelda got a different sprite if Snake gets his 8-bit sprite. right now, i'm calling Snake vs. Zelda still up in the air. AND Snake/Zelda vs. Sora is still up in the air.
forget seeing Zelda in the Final Four - how messed up would it be to see SORA in the Final Four?
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From: Adept_Of_Aiur
| Posted: 7/28/2005 3:54:28 PM | Message Detail
Alucard is beating Sora man.
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From: cyko
| Posted: 7/28/2005 3:55:02 PM | Message Detail
Alucard is beating Sora man.
HA!
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From: Heroic Viktor
| Posted: 7/28/2005 3:59:21 PM | Message Detail
Alucard is not beating Sora, because my perfect bracket does not have that happening.
...if that was the case though, then 'empty' would be whipping Kefka and Vercetti.
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...if that was the case though, then 'empty' would be whipping Kefka and Vercetti.
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From: The Doppleganger
| Posted: 7/28/2005 3:59:51 PM | Message Detail
Fighting Ocelot in MGS3 on Hard mode = intense
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From: Sir Crono
| Posted: 7/28/2005 4:03:02 PM | Message Detail
Vivi 39.88% 31903
Zelda 60.12% 48098
TOTAL VOTES 80001
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Zelda 60.12% 48098
TOTAL VOTES 80001
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From: Sir Bormun
| Posted: 7/28/2005 4:06:52 PM | Message Detail
Leon, what vote total is this match on pace to get?
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From: Sir Crono
| Posted: 7/28/2005 4:10:30 PM | Message Detail
Vivi/Zelda at 16:05 - 80,167
Ness/CJ - 76,610
Ganon/Yuna - 82,347
So I'd imagine we'll get close to 105k.
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Ness/CJ - 76,610
Ganon/Yuna - 82,347
So I'd imagine we'll get close to 105k.
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