Match 10: (4) Vivi Ornitier vs. (5) Zelda

Past Performance

Vivi Ornitier

Summer 2002
Did not attend
Ranked: N/A

Summer 2003
Did not attend
Ranked: N/A

Summer 2004
Beat Donkey Kong, 56.47% - 43.53%
Lost to Sephiroth, 29.75% - 70.25%
Ranked: 18th

Spring 2005
Did not attend
Ranked: N/A

Zelda

Summer 2002
Did not attend
Ranked: N/A

Summer 2003
Beat Lara Croft, 62.29% - 37.71%
Lost to Mega Man, 39.25% - 60.75%
Ranked: 19th

Summer 2004
Did not attend
Ranked: N/A

Spring 2005
Did not attend
Ranked: N/A

Analysis

Well this is the match the board has been hyping for since the brackets were released and many people are hoping this is going to be a very close match. Here we have two characters that have been in only one contest before. Sadly they weren’t in the same contest, which could be why people are hyping about it since we don’t know how these characters will act. When combining all of the contests, Zelda is the slight favorite to win this match, but it isn’t set in stone.

This is the second Nintendo vs. Square poll this year and we all know what that means, higher vote totals! Now could this match break Ganondorf/Yuna’s match record? Probably since both are fairly strong and this match will most likely be much closer then that match as well. We could break 110k tomorrow.

First off we have the most hyped game since Halo 2; the new Zelda game is coming out in a few months. Just like Link and maybe Ganondorf Zelda could benefit from the hype for this game, especially that her name is on the cover. Then again I don’t think she’ll benefit half as much as Link did.

When Vivi had his match against Sephiroth there could’ve been SFF. Even if we do adjust him by Donkey Kong’s strength he’s still below Zelda. The only problem now is that Donkey Kong could’ve gain over the year and push could push Vivi over Zelda. With the new Donkey Konga games that seems likely. There are also some people that will argue with that and say Donkey Kong was weaker that year, but if anything he’ll probably be stable.

We all remembered in 2k4 where Link overperformed against Mega Man. Well that could’ve happened with Zelda in 2k3. I personally don’t think it’s true because what ever happened in Link/Mega Man was a one time deal and if they were to have another match Mega Man would do much better, but it would explain why Lara was constant for two years then dropped like a rock in the next. But if Zelda was weaker in 2k3 the new Zelda game hype will probably cancel it out.

I hope we have a good match here, but with not enough information on the two characters either character could easily break 55% on each other. The board may heavily favor Zelda going into this match, but Vivi does have a good enough chance to win this match, but like most users we took the safe bet of going with Zelda. Two strong characters, both deserving to win at least one match are sadly going to battle it out tomorrow. Best of luck to both of you and may the best character win.

charmander6000’s Bracket: Zelda over Vivi Ornitier

charmander6000’s Prediction: Zelda wins, 52.68% - 47.32%

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Ya know, with all of the board's massive support for Manny out of the way for the most part and now that Solid has moved .05% in the past few hours, is it possible that Solid could expand this out even more by the end of the match?

85% is obviously out of the question now (I'm still eating crow for guessing 87% last night), but maybe 15.75% is possible for Snake to push Manny down?
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phew, I was afraid we were gonna start seeing 60% predictions.

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vote for vivi.

ugh.. my 89.56% prediction is looking awful. I suck bad at the Oracle Challenge.

some people had like 92%, though, so I guess it could be worse.
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vote for vivi.

Nobody would have been calling for 90% or more for Solid Snake against Manny if he wasn't the one that faced Tanner...
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From: therealmnm | Posted: 7/27/2005 6:03:09 PM | #455
Nobody would have been calling for 90% or more for Solid Snake against Manny if he wasn't the one that faced Tanner...

I suppose...

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Hahahaha, greetings gamers the world over...the time has come to write once more...be afraid kiddies, be very afraid indeed...

And so for 2005 it continues, in the 'Landing' Gear Division..

(4) Vivi vs (5) Zelda

Steve's Pick: Vivi! GO BLACK MAGE!
Fanboy-O-Meter: A toss up!
Upset Odds: It could really happen..but is it an upset?
Match Fun Factor: 10/10: This, my friends, is what its all about...this seperates the Elite bracketeers from the Dumb...

Comments: Yes yes yes...this match is one I have waited for. I am counting on the hallowed Black Mage to get it done...breaking Nintendite's perfect brackets, sending other 1 point losses to 2 point losses...yes yes yes!

It still boggles me how Zelda makes it here...she is a storyline character...on the whole. I mean..yah she is in SSBM...but...geesh. A 6 or 7 seed is more appropriate!

I refuse to fall for the Zelda hype. Vivi is too cool, too loved, and whether he wins by 1 vote or 1000, a win is a win. Some peeps refuse to admit that fact...

Also I am on a roll in terms of my last minute bracket changes and such. Yah I blew it with Carl, but I originally had Wesker and Big Boss! LOL Yah u can all laugh...but thankfully my Sage Staff enlightened me otherwise! They would have been nice upsets...

*laughs at myself*

The screams of the Nintendites...the painful wails of broken brackets...it will be joy...my leaderboard glory i dream for...strive for.....for the entire site to know my name...and bow in homage!

*laughs madly...like a crazed fanboy*

In all seriousness...i love the good matches...and this one will be memorable! Go Vivi!!!!!!!!!

Prediction: 2nd best match of Round 1...and Vivi gets it done thanks to the FF fans, RPG fans, and his higher seed and kickass pics! He is prolly my 2nd fav character who in this tourney bracket, Froggy being the 1st...

Quote of the Day: "I have a soul...you have what...looks?" -Vivi when asked about Zelda
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Honestly, I think the only other character that would get as big a blowout on Tanner would be Mega Man. I do think anti-votes are significant enough to deter most blowouts.

Of course, it was weaker 2k4 who owned Tanner to boot. I'm honestly finding it hard to believe Tanner would suck more than every other crap character we've had. Hell, I'd put someone from an unknown Japanese RPG over Tanner.
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Snake must forever bare the Tanner curse. If he doesn't beat his first round opponent with 108%, he's DOOMED!!!
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Steve I am a Nintendrite and I picked Vivi. Vivi is a strong final fantasy character. I recognize this. I mean he scored 30% on sephy who is the 3rd ranked character on this site.
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Contest stat 8/8
Today- Snake; Tomorrow- Vivi

Nobody would have been calling for 90% or more for Solid Snake against Manny if he wasn't the one that faced Tanner...

I concur.

I'm honestly finding it hard to believe Tanner would suck more than every other crap character we've had.

Better him than Ms. Pac-Man (or is the next-in-line Mr. Driller?).
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Random Contest factoid.

The only contest characters that are entirely unplayable that has ranked anywhere near respectable in a Character Battle has been Liquid Snake followed by Kefka.

However, this summer with the push of the Spring Contest we're likely to see Ocelot and Diablo add to that list and possibly Wesker depending on the Lloyd/Zero/Mario chain.

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Spring Contest 2k5 Score: 76/80 T-117th

The only contest characters that are entirely unplayable that has ranked anywhere near respectable in a Character Battle has been Liquid Snake followed by Kefka.

So Sephiroth does well because you can control him for all of ten minutes?

Still, interesting.
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Respect the Ehrgeiz, yo.
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Raiden fact of the contest: Alucard is a plagiarist, this year Raiden will prove it!

I think he was thinkin' of that Engheriz fighting game.
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Hillary Clinton: We need to treat violent video games the way we treat tobacco or alcohol.
Lewis Black: Namely as valued contributors to our re-election fund.

Eh; I didn't have a clue how to spell it, anyways, heh.
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Hillary Clinton: We need to treat violent video games the way we treat tobacco or alcohol.
Lewis Black: Namely as valued contributors to our re-election fund.

Sephiroth was playable in Ehrgeiz? I thought that was just Cloud and Tifa and whoever else.
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Holy crap, I got it right.
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Raiden fact of the contest: Alucard is a plagiarist, this year Raiden will prove it!

Seph, Tifa and Cloud in Ehrgeiz. god that game sucked.

an FF melee-type game would be crazy. KHF would be nothing compared to that.
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vote for vivi.

Yeah, Cloud, Tifa, Sephiroth, Yuffie, Vincent... and even Zack were usable in that game.
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Raiden fact of the contest: Alucard is a plagiarist, this year Raiden will prove it!

Clearly I accoutned for both the flashback and Ehrgeiz...

and j00 got pwned =/
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Spring Contest 2k5 Score: 76/80 T-117th

Ah, I see.

Of course, I think Sephy's ten minutes of being playable in FF7 would help him more than being in Ehrgeiz.

And honestly, how many characters aren't playable in the regular contest to begin with? Besides Liquid and Kefka, I can think of Nook and Resetti off the top of my head. There's probably some others. I'll assume TV's Kane wasn't playable, since he was in a ****ing TV and all.
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CATS =)
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Spring Contest 2k5 Score: 76/80 T-117th

You never control The King.

an FF melee-type game would be crazy. KHF would be nothing compared to that.

*throws a materia, and Meteor falls from the sky and kills everyone*
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Lewis Black: Namely as valued contributors to our re-election fund.

an FF melee-type game would be crazy. KHF would be nothing compared to that.

FIIINAAAALLL FAHN-TAH-SEEEEEE MEEELLEEEEEEEEE

Hey, it could happen.... <_<

Cloud
B - Blade Beam
Smash + B - Cross Slash (think Marth/Roy)
Down + B - Braver
Up + B - Climhazard
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Graduation: April 30, 2005 "There are only 10 kinds of people in this world, those that read binary and those that don't."

A Super Square Brothers Melee...That would really put Square over the top here.
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*Claims KG's Eclair & Millia Rage*

a FF Melee-type game wouldn't be complete without limit breaks.

*omnislashes Cait Sith, spoilers Aeris*
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Hillary Clinton: We need to treat violent video games the way we treat tobacco or alcohol.
Lewis Black: Namely as valued contributors to our re-election fund.

Hmmmm... Interesting Harrich. Instead of random items, you could have random Materia...
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Graduation: April 30, 2005 "There are only 10 kinds of people in this world, those that read binary and those that don't."

you could have all kinds of things; esper-balls, limits, cure, who knows what else. the battle stages would rule, too: Midgar, Zanarkand, airship, boat, etc.

it'd never happen, but that game would freaking rule.
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vote for vivi.

Yeah and the more materia you collect the higher level spell it'd be...

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Spring Contest 2k5 Score: 76/80 T-117th

Heh, I was thinkin' about treatin' materia/summons more like Pokeballs, myself...but that works too.
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Hillary Clinton: We need to treat violent video games the way we treat tobacco or alcohol.
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Hmm... playble Kefka? Yeah. Top Tier Vivi, yeah!
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*chucks materia*

*Tonberry appears*

DOINK!

OHKO'D!!!!
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Graduation: April 30, 2005 "There are only 10 kinds of people in this world, those that read binary and those that don't."

Heh, and Sephiroth pulls a Bowser and drops to the bottom tier. That would be great....
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Graduation: April 30, 2005 "There are only 10 kinds of people in this world, those that read binary and those that don't."

a tonberry slowly walking across a stage would be scary as hell; even better would be a cactuar shooting 1000 needles.
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vote for vivi.

I'd actually buy whatever console it is on just for that game. Summons would own, also.
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That's right. Cloud N. Candy would get a NEGATIVE percentage, and RPGuy's extrapolated calculator would crash. - therealmnm

Wouldn't happen, though.
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"Love forever, love is free. Let’s turn forever you and me." - Gorillaz "Feel Good INC"

That being in regards to bottom tier Seph, of course.
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"Love forever, love is free. Let’s turn forever you and me." - Gorillaz "Feel Good INC"

Oh, and my favorite character would be Seymour.
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That's right. Cloud N. Candy would get a NEGATIVE percentage, and RPGuy's extrapolated calculator would crash. - therealmnm

Now Seymour I could see getting shafter to low tiers. Auron as well. Slow = bad.
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"Love forever, love is free. Let’s turn forever you and me." - Gorillaz "Feel Good INC"

I'd like to see Cyan in a fighting game. That would rule.

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Pichu Rocks
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Contest stat 8/8
Today- Snake; Tomorrow- Vivi

True, but Ganondorf's not in the lowest tier, at least for less serious players, in SSBM, just cause he's so powerful. I think Auron'd be similar.
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Rikku would so be in the ultra mega godly tier.
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I'd like to see 3d models of 2d characters. that would be strange.

besides, Kain > all.

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vote for vivi.

Vivi>Zelda BOOK IT!
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Contest stat 8/8
Today- Snake; Tomorrow- Vivi

Agent 47 > Tanner
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I just wonder how the Square fighting game would handle magic. If it took too long to cast, that'd suck.
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