People actually CARE about Manny. You cant say the same about Guybrush.

I care about Guybrush. He doesn't deserve the ridicule... well, yes he does, but because that's his role.
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I think Tanner just got unlucky with Snake. Not saying he isnt a weak bastard, but they basically appeal to similiar fanbases. Also Solid Snake one of those few characters who I think doesnt get antivoted a whole hell of a lot.
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"Why would the boost from AC be bigger than those?" - Mac Arrowny
"Because (Heroic Mario) just replayed Final Fantasy VII." - Lucid Faia

I can't see why Ness would beat Kefka.
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Isn't Guybrush the "insult duel" guy from Monkey Island? I've actually heard of him before the contests if that is the case, and I think the Monkey Island fanbase pretty well adores the guy. (I haven't done much research on this, though)

Grim Fandango seems like Monkey Island, but more cult.

This is how I see it:

Jin Kazama
Agent 47
Yuri Hyuga
Manny Tanner

But I wouldn't be surprised to see Agent 47 above Jin. He might get disturbingly close to Joanna Dark and/or Conker. I'm calling it right here.
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Guybrush is the main character from Monkey Island.
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"Why would the boost from AC be bigger than those?" - Mac Arrowny
"Because (Heroic Mario) just replayed Final Fantasy VII." - Lucid Faia

Ness would beat Kefka, and I'd have taken him in a before Ness/CJ, too.
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"Luca Blight's insane. He's a wolf raised on the smell of fire and the taste of blood."" ~ Viktor, Suikoden II

The last defense I am giving Manny is his cult following is almost RPG like. And his game sold much more than Luca's did.
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"Why would the boost from AC be bigger than those?" - Mac Arrowny
"Because (Heroic Mario) just replayed Final Fantasy VII." - Lucid Faia

I woulda took Ness over Kefka before, too, in a match probably a lil' closer than what Kefka/Diablo turned out to be.
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Weren't Monkey Island and Grim Fandango both made by LucasArts?
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Contest 2005 Championship
Round 1: (7) Geno

I have a question just to get a read. Which character do you guys think Lloyd is equal to after his Wesker match?
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"Why would the boost from AC be bigger than those?" - Mac Arrowny
"Because (Heroic Mario) just replayed Final Fantasy VII." - Lucid Faia

Yes Sir Crono.
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"Why would the boost from AC be bigger than those?" - Mac Arrowny
"Because (Heroic Mario) just replayed Final Fantasy VII." - Lucid Faia

I think Lloyd is around Vyse's level.
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I would also take Kefka before Ness/CJ, I knew he was underrated anyway.
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Yeah Lloyds around Vyse level, maybe a little higher.

Ah, well that can only help Guybrush I guess. In any case, I've actually heard of Monkey Island before these contests, I can't say the same of Grim Fandango.

And yeah, I agree about Tanner. If he was up against Link he wouldn't be the super fodder we all know and love, he'd just be really crappy normal fodder. He might have even been able to get a double digit X-Stats score had he faced Link. Or pretty close, at least. Fodder needs the anti-votes. That's what they live on. That's why I'm calling Snake vs Manny as 90.xx for Snake.
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I'm thinkin' Jin's gonna be just above Terry...certainly not worth having a parade for, but it'll keep him plenty far away from being THAT weak.

Jin is not going to nail 19%+ on Sonic.

I see him in the 15% range. I'm sorry. Tekken's just not big here. If anything Terry's at least been boosted because of Capcom crossovers.

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Jin would be a bit stronger than Kazuya. How much would Sonic be projected to get on 2k2 Kazuya Mishima.
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Summer 2005 Contest - 7/8 points
Current Match Prediction: Solid Snake vs. Manny Calavera

Lloyd? Lavos-ish. If you need a summer contest character, go with Conker.
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"Luca Blight's insane. He's a wolf raised on the smell of fire and the taste of blood."" ~ Viktor, Suikoden II

Just funny, I also think Lloyd = Vyse is the absolute floor for Lloyd. Even there, Wesker took a 4% increase in less than 3 months for no apparent reason.
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"Why would the boost from AC be bigger than those?" - Mac Arrowny
"Because (Heroic Mario) just replayed Final Fantasy VII." - Lucid Faia

I'd easily take Lloyd over Vyse, regardless of how weak he looks. I'm thinking Wesker got fluked vs Kefka. In fact, I'd put him around Viewtiful Joe from last year. We'll see next round if I have any credibility, though.
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Raiden fact of the contest: Alucard is a plagiarist, this year Raiden will prove it!

I knew something had to be up. Nemesis just couldnt be THAT much stronger than Wesker.
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"Why would the boost from AC be bigger than those?" - Mac Arrowny
"Because (Heroic Mario) just replayed Final Fantasy VII." - Lucid Faia

Now? I'd put Lloyd around, eh, Vyse...like everyone else, heh.
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Vyse > Lloyd, baby. I stand by it.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Contest 2005 Championship
Round 1: (7) Geno

I still see something fishy with Vyse. A game that sold almost twice as much, has a bigger fanbase here, much more recent even in comparision. Either Lloyd is that weak because no one likes him or we are in for another surprise when he faces Zero.
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"Why would the boost from AC be bigger than those?" - Mac Arrowny
"Because (Heroic Mario) just replayed Final Fantasy VII." - Lucid Faia

We've got about an hour to go...Prediction percentage for Auron?

I'll say 91.30% here.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Contest 2005 Championship
Round 1: (7) Geno

to be uber-fodder statistically, you have to be an unknown character that isn't cult. you also have to face someone who will get 90% on you and will then lose badly to someone else. Tanner pulled this off brilliantly.

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this predciction percentage will be lower than Ganon's... I'll say 83%.
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From: Sir Crono | Posted: 7/27/2005 1:49:15 AM | Message Detail | #295
Well, Amano has actually done art for all of the FF games, though they're not all "official" like FFVI's is.

Hmmm. I didn't know that.

Actually, at his website (amanosworld.com), there's a few things that are decent. His FF6 work though...just abominable.
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Hmmm...I think I'll got with 87.45% for Auron...
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I think Lloyd is stronger than his match with Wesker showed. I'd take him over Vyse still, and won't be surprised if he does well against Zero.
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Lloyd doesn't seem to be as dominant a favorite with the ToS fanbase as Vyse is with SoA's... or even a favorite at all (at least not by much).

I'm guessing Auron has 87.25% of the brackets behind him.
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I see nothing hard to believe about Vyse>Lloyd.
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Auron's only getting 75ish% of the brackets. MGS3 fans will have overestimated Big Boss, count on it.
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Raiden fact of the contest: Alucard is a plagiarist, this year Raiden will prove it!

So should we expect Kratos to be that much stronger than Lloyd?
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"Why would the boost from AC be bigger than those?" - Mac Arrowny
"Because (Heroic Mario) just replayed Final Fantasy VII." - Lucid Faia

Not by that much... if at all. Unfortunately for my bracket...
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Raiden fact of the contest: Alucard is a plagiarist, this year Raiden will prove it!

Expect Kratos to surprise against Diablo. Then expect to realize what happened when Lloyd performs well against Zero, showing that Wesker was waaaaay underrated by the Spring stats.
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MM's right on this one. of course, I have Kratos in my bracket, so I'm biased. also, doomed.
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I do expect that. But I still don't expect Kratos to win, unfortunately. Even if Wesker was stronger, Lloyd still needed more than a measly 55% to put my hopes up.
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Raiden fact of the contest: Alucard is a plagiarist, this year Raiden will prove it!

72.34% will have Auron over Big Boss. 70.14% had him over Scorpion, and I'll give bracket-makers a lil' extra credit.
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Lewis Black: Namely as valued contributors to our re-election fund.

just a thought: what would you guys expect Frog to get on Wesker?
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51.2%. =P
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Hillary Clinton: We need to treat violent video games the way we treat tobacco or alcohol.
Lewis Black: Namely as valued contributors to our re-election fund.

61-39
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"Why would the boost from AC be bigger than those?" - Mac Arrowny
"Because (Heroic Mario) just replayed Final Fantasy VII." - Lucid Faia

I would expect Wesker to get 50.02% on Frog, because Frog loves making matches close, and saying Wesker could beat him makes my Kratos>Diablo pick look plausible. >>;
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71.5% for Auron.

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Seriously though, both Frog and Wesker are questionable dastardly odd-balls, and so I wouldn't know what to expect in a Frog/Wesker match.
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I'd pick Frog without a second thought.

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Think of how much more interesting the bracket would have been if CJay switched Wesker with Leon. People would have been fooled into picking GF for the win.... again.
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"Why would the boost from AC be bigger than those?" - Mac Arrowny
"Because (Heroic Mario) just replayed Final Fantasy VII." - Lucid Faia

I don't think Frog could clear 60% on anyone but fodder, but could get up to 40% on elite characters. I wouldn't be surprised if Frog gets 40% on Samus, making Riku look stronger than Sora.

I wonder if the same applies to Lloyd, cause there's no way he's equal to Mithos.
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Think of how much more interesting the bracket would have been if CJay switched Wesker with Leon. People would have been fooled into picking GF for the win.... again.

...that'd been REAL dirty of CJay, heh. I got to thinkin' today that it would have been interesting to have Pac-Man switch with Leon, too; Pac/Gordon would have been fun, and Revolver/Leon could be good. If Leon impressed, then Yoshi/Leon could have been good too.
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SHAMELESS PLUG OF CONTEST IN SIG

Zelda > Snake
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