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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 170
From: Sir Crono | Posted: 7/26/2005 10:17:27 PM | Message Detail
They completely changed Celes's look in the FMVs though. I don't think she'd be recognizable at all.

http://purplepuff0.tripod.com/celes2.jpg
http://live.quizilla.com/user_images/O/onlyrob/1078409129_Celes1.jpg

Yeah, yeah, I took that last one off of a "Which FFVI character are you?" quiz.

Shadow FMV:

http://www.phantomcastle.it/phantom/varie_file/ffantasy_file/FF6/FF6_shadow.JPG

He's the heavyweight champion of the world!

Shadow Amano:

http://www.miaskywalker.com/as/2002/03/shadow.jpg

Looks like crap, but undoubtedly Shadow.
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From: Keno316 | Posted: 7/26/2005 10:18:16 PM | Message Detail
Amano Art....BAH! HORRID!! HORRID!!!!
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From: cyko | Posted: 7/26/2005 10:21:36 PM | Message Detail
well, at least Amano's Mog is still pretty recognizable:

http://ff6.guide.free.fr/PERSOS/Mog/36.JPG

but this is the awesome Mog:

http://www.squareuniverse.net/misc/mog2.gif

KUPO!!

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From: NewLib | Posted: 7/26/2005 10:21:51 PM | Message Detail
Only Amano could make Locke and Shadow look gay.
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From: Mac Arrowny | Posted: 7/26/2005 10:23:32 PM | Message Detail
I think that Menu pictures would be the best bets for most FFVI characters.

Terra: http://www.cavesofnarshe.com/forums/ipb/html/avatars/Final_Fantasy_6_Menu_Pics/Terra.gif
Locke: http://www.cavesofnarshe.com/forums/ipb/html/avatars/Final_Fantasy_6_Menu_Pics/Locke.gif
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From: NewLib | Posted: 7/26/2005 10:25:19 PM | Message Detail
Square really needs to remake Final Fantasy VI. I mean they could make a serious mint with that and not even piss off their entire fanbase.
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"Why would the boost from AC be bigger than those?" - Mac Arrowny
"Because (Heroic Mario) just replayed Final Fantasy VII." - Lucid Faia
From: Sir Crono | Posted: 7/26/2005 10:25:23 PM | Message Detail
Terra's menu picture is good and immediately recognizable (green hair and all). Locke's is absolutely hideous.
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Round 1: (7) Geno
From: Keno316 | Posted: 7/26/2005 10:26:12 PM | Message Detail
Couldn't Ceej make an exception and allow fanart of some characters?
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From: NewLib | Posted: 7/26/2005 10:26:46 PM | Message Detail
The only decent Locke pose besides the one where his back is turned, is his sprite.
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"Why would the boost from AC be bigger than those?" - Mac Arrowny
"Because (Heroic Mario) just replayed Final Fantasy VII." - Lucid Faia
From: HaRRicH | Posted: 7/26/2005 10:27:02 PM | Message Detail
Wow, Amano-Shadow looks like what I'd imagine Captain Planet's worst nightmare would be.


I think that Menu pictures would be the best bets for most FFVI characters.

Totally agreed; them and/or original sprites.
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From: RPGuy96 | Posted: 7/26/2005 10:28:35 PM | Message Detail
Sprites would be the best bet, though menu pics are about the right size...
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From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 7/26/2005 10:28:49 PM | Message Detail
From: Keno316 | Posted: 7/27/2005 1:26:12 AM | Message Detail | #258
Couldn't Ceej make an exception and allow fanart of some characters?


Diablo's pic against Ridley was fan art, I believe.

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From: Keno316 | Posted: 7/26/2005 10:30:26 PM | Message Detail
So then, maybe FF6 characters can get away with Fanart. Cecil as well...Only question will be how easy to recognize them will it be...
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From: SonicRaptor | Posted: 7/26/2005 10:30:28 PM | Message Detail
Square really needs to remake Final Fantasy VI. I mean they could make a serious mint with that and not even piss off their entire fanbase.

No, it would probably cause the fanboys to turn up their noses to it since Square is touching "their" game.
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From: Kagato Toujou | Posted: 7/26/2005 10:30:48 PM | Message Detail
Diablo's pic against Ridley was fan art, I believe.

Actually it was clipped from an official Blizzard wallpaper.

http://www.blizzard.com/diablo2/wallpapers/diablo_vs_wow-logos/diablo_vs_wow-logos-1024x.jpg
From: HaRRicH | Posted: 7/26/2005 10:32:22 PM | Message Detail
I do believe that Diablo look is one of the most bad-ass lookin' characters I've seen.
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From: charmander6000 | Posted: 7/26/2005 10:32:47 PM | Message Detail
The following got under 10%

Ms. Pac-Man
Serious Sam
AiAi
Adventure
Gunstar Heroes
Tanner

Anyone else is a lie
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From: NewLib | Posted: 7/26/2005 10:34:31 PM | Message Detail
Yuri came really close.
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"Why would the boost from AC be bigger than those?" - Mac Arrowny
"Because (Heroic Mario) just replayed Final Fantasy VII." - Lucid Faia
From: HaRRicH | Posted: 7/26/2005 10:35:24 PM | Message Detail
*checks*

Damn, Mr. Resetti got 11.04% against Mega Man, afterall.
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From: Sir Crono | Posted: 7/26/2005 10:36:08 PM | Message Detail
Of course he did. He's Mr. Resetti. He ain't gettin' punked like that.
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From: NewLib | Posted: 7/26/2005 10:36:15 PM | Message Detail
Oh I thought you mean under 10% on Link 2k3. Woops.
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"Why would the boost from AC be bigger than those?" - Mac Arrowny
"Because (Heroic Mario) just replayed Final Fantasy VII." - Lucid Faia
From: NewLib | Posted: 7/26/2005 10:37:28 PM | Message Detail
I know everyone is talking about Agent 47 or Manny being the weakest character. Im starting to think it could be Jin. Seriously, who cares about Jin? Even Tekken fanboys dont care about Jin.
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"Why would the boost from AC be bigger than those?" - Mac Arrowny
"Because (Heroic Mario) just replayed Final Fantasy VII." - Lucid Faia
From: Sir Crono | Posted: 7/26/2005 10:38:08 PM | Message Detail
Jin should be weak, but not THAT weak. He should be around Terry, give or take a little.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Contest 2005 Championship
Round 1: (7) Geno
From: NewLib | Posted: 7/26/2005 10:39:40 PM | Message Detail
Yoshimitsu is the only non SF/non MK fighting character I expect to be anything but Fodder to the Fodder. Even Morrigan who I think is nowhere near as high as she was in 2002.
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"Why would the boost from AC be bigger than those?" - Mac Arrowny
"Because (Heroic Mario) just replayed Final Fantasy VII." - Lucid Faia
From: HaRRicH | Posted: 7/26/2005 10:39:54 PM | Message Detail
I'm thinkin' Jin's gonna be just above Terry...certainly not worth having a parade for, but it'll keep him plenty far away from being THAT weak.
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From: NewLib | Posted: 7/26/2005 10:40:57 PM | Message Detail
I couldnt bring myself to taking Jin over Earthworm Jim.
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"Why would the boost from AC be bigger than those?" - Mac Arrowny
"Because (Heroic Mario) just replayed Final Fantasy VII." - Lucid Faia
From: DGZFIGHTERS | Posted: 7/26/2005 10:41:22 PM | Message Detail
Master Chief v.s. DK: Potential upset, anyone?

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From: NewLib | Posted: 7/26/2005 10:41:36 PM | Message Detail
No
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"Why would the boost from AC be bigger than those?" - Mac Arrowny
"Because (Heroic Mario) just replayed Final Fantasy VII." - Lucid Faia
From: Sir Crono | Posted: 7/26/2005 10:42:04 PM | Message Detail
We need a push for Yoshimitsu or Sub-Zero next summer.
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From: HaRRicH | Posted: 7/26/2005 10:42:10 PM | Message Detail
I completely agree about Yoshimitsu; I nominated him solely for his ninja-pogo and that he could have some unsuspected strength to him. Seriously, I had said before the contest that if there was a CJ/Yoshimitsu match, I'd take the upset of Yoshimitsu and stick with it.

I still stick with it even more than before.
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From: Lopen | Posted: 7/26/2005 10:42:31 PM | Message Detail
Jin's not in any danger of being the weakest character. That crown will be disputed between Manny Tanner and Yuri Hyuga. I think Manny will take it.

Nope, not Agent 47. Agent 47 will surprise, you watch.
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From: HaRRicH | Posted: 7/26/2005 10:43:56 PM | Message Detail
Sub-Zero would be nice, but Yoshimitsu would likely make for a better competitor...not necessarily even strength-wise, but contest-wise; he could help or screw a LOT of people. Imagine the hell that could have ensued if he took Wesker's place, for example.
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From: Draco1214 | Posted: 7/26/2005 10:44:14 PM | Message Detail
From strongest to weakest:

Jin Kazama
Yuri Hyuga
Manny Calavera
Agent 47
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From: NewLib | Posted: 7/26/2005 10:44:27 PM | Message Detail
I dont know why people think Manny is going to be weaker than Guybrush. People actually CARE about Manny. You cant say the same about Guybrush.

Also I agree about Agent 47. Unlike Tanner, he actually has some sort of personality.
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"Why would the boost from AC be bigger than those?" - Mac Arrowny
"Because (Heroic Mario) just replayed Final Fantasy VII." - Lucid Faia
From: Sir Crono | Posted: 7/26/2005 10:45:58 PM | Message Detail
I'd never even HEARD of Manny before Shake started his rallying. Of course, I'd probably have no idea who Guybrush was either had he not already been in the contest twice.
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Round 1: (7) Geno
From: NewLib | Posted: 7/26/2005 10:46:14 PM | Message Detail
1. Yoshimitshu
4. Ness

2. Lloyd
3. Kefka

Who do you take?
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"Why would the boost from AC be bigger than those?" - Mac Arrowny
"Because (Heroic Mario) just replayed Final Fantasy VII." - Lucid Faia
From: creativename | Posted: 7/26/2005 10:46:27 PM | Message Detail
From: bigkevinm84 | Posted: 7/26/2005 11:59:28 PM | Message Detail | #187
Also, this is the second "47" that Sora gets to beat.


Wow...somehow I completely failed to notice that, and I don't recall anyone else bringing it up either. Ceej must've done that on purpose, I guess.


From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 7/27/2005 12:44:07 AM | Message Detail | #208
If it's such a spoiler, then tell me what her final mission is.


As I stated, I've never played the game. Her fate is more important than the final mission (which presumably is just a way to get to her fate). I don't see how that is not a spoiler...? Unless the game explicitly broadcasts her fate at the start of the game, or this is a flashback.


From: cyko | Posted: 7/27/2005 1:02:58 AM | Message Detail | #224
i am also still not sold that Terra will be the strongest rep. i stand by my longtime prediction that Shadow and Mog have the most potential, followed (in no particular order) by Sabin, Locke, Celes, Terra, and Edgar.


For the most part, I concur. Don't know about Mog, but I think Shadow would have an excellent shot at being stronger than Terra.


From: Keno316 | Posted: 7/27/2005 1:18:16 AM | Message Detail | #252
Amano Art....BAH! HORRID!! HORRID!!!!


Regarding Amano art, it is indeed the most atrocious "professional" character art I've ever seen. I find it very difficult to comprehend that someone actually paid for this. I've commissioned art before, and it was vastly superior to this junk. I would never pay for stuff of that poor quality. I wonder if Square was satisfied with that work. Did they ever hire him again?
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From: Master Moltar | Posted: 7/26/2005 10:46:41 PM | Message Detail
If you want a new fighting character in, look no further than Nightmare. <3
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From: NewLib | Posted: 7/26/2005 10:46:42 PM | Message Detail
Id never heard of Yuri or King of All Cosmos.
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"Why would the boost from AC be bigger than those?" - Mac Arrowny
"Because (Heroic Mario) just replayed Final Fantasy VII." - Lucid Faia
From: RPGuy96 | Posted: 7/26/2005 10:46:45 PM | Message Detail
I care deeply about Guybrush.
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From: NewLib | Posted: 7/26/2005 10:47:39 PM | Message Detail
Guybrush has got nothing on Murray.

If Murray was in this contest, he destroy Link.
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"Why would the boost from AC be bigger than those?" - Mac Arrowny
"Because (Heroic Mario) just replayed Final Fantasy VII." - Lucid Faia
From: creativename | Posted: 7/26/2005 10:47:49 PM | Message Detail
As for %age lists, just use my sortable tables:

http://www.sc2k5.com/drupal/node/19?fields=&sort=percent1&type=DESC

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From: Draco1214 | Posted: 7/26/2005 10:48:02 PM | Message Detail
1. Yoshimitshu
4. Ness

2. Lloyd
3. Kefka

4. Ness
3. Kefka
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From: NewLib | Posted: 7/26/2005 10:49:08 PM | Message Detail
I forgot MGS/FFT and CT/LTTP was so close.
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"Why would the boost from AC be bigger than those?" - Mac Arrowny
"Because (Heroic Mario) just replayed Final Fantasy VII." - Lucid Faia
From: Sir Crono | Posted: 7/26/2005 10:49:15 PM | Message Detail
Well, Amano has actually done art for all of the FF games, though they're not all "official" like FFVI's is.

Actually, I think the FMVs in FFV and FFVI were based off of that, which explains why Bartz looks ABSOLUTELY NOTHING like he does in the actual game. I seriously thought it was a woman until it got to a certain part of the FMV.
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From: Janus5000 | Posted: 7/26/2005 10:49:33 PM | Message Detail
Ness > Kefka
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From: Dilated Chemist | Posted: 7/26/2005 10:50:09 PM | Message Detail
Will Snake break 87%?

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From: Draco1214 | Posted: 7/26/2005 10:50:41 PM | Message Detail
I think Snake will get 90.54%.
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From: HaRRicH | Posted: 7/26/2005 10:50:49 PM | Message Detail
0. Angel Kefka > 1. Yoshimitsu >or= 4. Ness > 3. Kefka > 2. Lloyd
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From: RPGuy96 | Posted: 7/26/2005 10:51:10 PM | Message Detail
FMV Galuf doesn't look much like Sprite Galuf, either. What with the silver hair.
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