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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 164
From: NewLib | Posted: 7/23/2005 11:45:01 AM | Message Detail
I like to note that before the contest I stated that Frog/Riku would be much closer than people believed. I stand by that.
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"Why would the boost from AC be bigger than those?" - Mac Arrowny
"Because (Heroic Mario) just replayed Final Fantasy VII." - Lucid Faia
From: King Calamari | Posted: 7/23/2005 11:45:35 AM | Message Detail
Samus Aran 87.25% 40990
Yuri Hyuga 12.75% 5992
TOTAL VOTES 46982


Dear GOD, look at Samus GO! This is pretty damn cool.
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From: Master Moltar | Posted: 7/23/2005 11:49:53 AM | Message Detail
Anyone with All-Time Stats, where does this put Yuri now?
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Samus vs. Yuri - Bracket: Samus - Vote: Samus (3/4)
From: Heroic Viktor | Posted: 7/23/2005 11:50:50 AM | Message Detail
I was bored, and wanted to see Yuri hit 6000. In the time it took Yuri to gain those 8 votes, Samus slapped up over 100.

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SC2k5 - 5/5 (empty slots in brackets suck)
From: Garsha | Posted: 7/23/2005 11:50:58 AM | Message Detail
Go Samus! Rub it on your haters' faces!
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From: RPGuy96 | Posted: 7/23/2005 11:51:01 AM | Message Detail
10.80%, mostly the same as last time except now he's under Tom Nook.
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From: LeonhartForever | Posted: 7/23/2005 11:51:43 AM | Message Detail
Yuri is currently at 10.77% on Link, ranking with the likes of Ulala and Tom Nook.
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From: Master Moltar | Posted: 7/23/2005 11:51:58 AM | Message Detail
Oh, and Mario/Joanna had almost 8,000 more votes than this match does right now at this point. I blame Yuri!
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Samus vs. Yuri - Bracket: Samus - Vote: Samus (3/4)
From: NewLib | Posted: 7/23/2005 11:53:25 AM | Message Detail
Basically since 2004 its possible for only Officer Tenpenny and Tanner to Tanner to be worst.
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"Why would the boost from AC be bigger than those?" - Mac Arrowny
"Because (Heroic Mario) just replayed Final Fantasy VII." - Lucid Faia
From: Lucid Faia | Posted: 7/23/2005 11:53:37 AM | Message Detail
As I said, this is a fitting way to start Samus's reign of terror. I can't wait until she exposes Frog in the second round.

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2nd Place, Spring Contest 2005
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From: voltch | Posted: 7/23/2005 12:05:24 PM | Message Detail
right i'm back and from the looks of it the vote totals are down by quite a bit.

did lloyd do really badly? cause he didn't thrash wesker

are the pics of the zebes division all up?
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From: sidharta | Posted: 7/23/2005 12:06:06 PM | Message Detail
As I said, this is a fitting way to start Samus's reign of terror. I can't wait until she exposes Frog in the second round.

Tell me about it, she started to remind me of Link 2k2, Cloud 2k3 and Link 2k4.

And here I thought Mario's performance 4 days ago were impressive...

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From: Lucid Faia | Posted: 7/23/2005 12:09:11 PM | Message Detail
And here I thought Mario's performance 4 days ago were impressive...

He had a nice vote total, but I think Samus is doing much better when it comes to pure domination.

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From: Master Moltar | Posted: 7/23/2005 12:09:49 PM | Message Detail
Zebes Division Round 1 - Match 6 – (4)Riku vs. (5)Frog

Riku
Game/Series Known From: Kingdom Hearts
Extrapolated Rank in 2002: N/A
Extrapolated Rank in 2003: N/A
Extrapolated Rank in 2004: N/A
Seed in 2002: N/A
Seed in 2003: N/A
Seed in 2004: N/A

Newcomer alert! See, the mass N/A’s tell you that a newbie is approaching!

Frog
Game/Series Known From: Chrono Trigger
Extrapolated Rank in 2002: N/A
Extrapolated Rank in 2003: N/A
Extrapolated Rank in 2004: 14th (26.97%) Adjusted Value: 13th (29.96%)
Seed in 2002: N/A
Seed in 2003: N/A
Seed in 2004: 6
Lost in 2004 to Solid Snake in the Sweet 16

The strongest newcomer in 2004 is back and ready to beat some more opponents.

>.> <.< *DUN DUN DUN*

It’s time for an episode of….CONSPIRIACY THEATHER

Yeah so, Riku vs. Frog, 6th match of the Contest. Big whoop. You have to look deeper into this match to find the truth behind the lies. Check the 2004 Unadjusted stats. Sora and Frog have the exact same value. Riku is from the same game Sora is. Coincidence? Or maybe just part of a plan; Alucard’s plan! You think that’s all? Oh, but that’s only half the truth. Look at the seedings. How did Riku manage to get a higher seed then the already strong Frog? Nominations? Pfft, don’t give me that. Too many Rikku typos? Ha! The real reason is because CjayC wanted to throw off the people. Lots of people might have played CT, but the casuals haven’t. More casuals have probably played Kingdom Hearts than Chrono Trigger. The bracket making newbs see Riku, and then see a Frog. The go with Riku for the higher seed and BAM, 1 point down the drain. I’m on to your games, Ceej, you won’t fool me!

And that, concludes today’s episode of….CONSPIRACY THEATER

When life gives you lemons, it’s all a plot by the government to force you in to big business and compete to eliminate your competition.

*DUN DUN DUN*

Well, this is a pretty easy match. Unless Riku is as strong as, or stronger than Sora (and that’s pretty darn strong), he has no chance of taking down the CT powerhouse that is Frog. There’s also a possibility that Frog might get some minor Square SFF on Riku, so that only puts him in a worse position.

Moltar’s Bracket Says: Frog will win.

Moltar’s Prediction is: Riku: 40% - Frog: 60%



Ulti’s Analysis

Thanks to CJayC removing the company cap on Square, a ton of Square characters got into this contest that we probably wouldn't have seen otherwise. Riku is one of those characters, and though he's in a 4-5 match, he's really been given the shaft here. Frog made an amazing run in last year's contest, and though the stats overrate him by a lot, there's no way in hell Riku could have beaten Liquid Snake, Master Chief, then get close to Solid Snake.

However, I don't think Riku is going to suffer a massive SFF meltdown. Kingdom Hearts is a series that usually does pretty well in these things, and Riku is your standard gothic-y badass that all the 13 year olds want to be like, of which there has to be at least one in every game with the Square tag on it.

The result? An easy Frog win, but not a massive SFF affair. Though if there were any justice in the world, Riku would whip the snot's ass. Frog's entire character consists of whacking it to Cyrus's tomb every night while sitting on his fat, lazy ass in his little hole in the ground and having your party do all of his work for him. Cyrus was quite correct when he called Glenn a marshmellow, and let's not even begin to discuss the way Frog speaks. That is not ye olde English.

I try not to be too biased in these things generally, but come on, it's Frog. The snot dangling from my goatee has more character development than Frog, and is more attractive to boot.

Prediction: Frog with 57.57%
From: Master Moltar | Posted: 7/23/2005 12:10:11 PM | Message Detail
Soul’s Analysis

Pfft. I hate matches like this. I never seen Riku in Kingdom Hearts, unless he was Ansem or Goofy. That, of course, is because I only played the game for an hour or so. Other then knowing he was in Kingdom Hearts, I know nothing.

If it wasn't for last years contest, Frog would be another one of those characters. I've seen Frog an entire one time in my playthrough of Chrono Trigger, before the save files got corrupted and I lost everything. So yeah, he's a frog who speaks like Shakespeare. He was also the strongest person in my group.

So, it's a classic Chrono Trigger Vs. Kingdom Hearts match. Great... Anyways, as said before, I know nothing of the two, so I'm going to go to the lovely X-Stats. Frog ranked really high, mostly because of Snake's bombing against him. Even if Snake didn't bomb, Frog would be ranked pretty high. High enough to beat Sora, at least. When you could beat the main character of a game, you can definitely beat the rival of that game.

My prediction: Frog wins with 63.00% of the vote. Total guess; I'm hoping it pulls off.



Outback’s Analysis

Another lackluster 4/5 match. Frog, a strong competitor last year, against Riku from Kingdom Hearts. KHs lead wouldn't even beat Frog, so I don't see why Riku would either.

FROG with 59.98



Inviso’s Analysis

Riku is the badass and in other words, good, character from Kingdom Hearts. Frog is the swordsman from Chrono Trigger. Remember what I said earlier? About Chrono Trigger? Well, it has come to pass. Last year, Frog had two very close encounters with gunmen before falling to Solid Snake, a character that, although he was probably brought down by his picture looking like **** (literally) still did poorly against the amphibian. This year, it’s Square SFF as 3D takes on 2D. Frog will most likely win, as Kingdom Hearts doesn’t get that much respect on Gamefaqs and Frog is from Chrono Trigger, so I guess we’ll just see how it works out. It definitely won’t be a nail biter like Frog’s matches last year. No one is going to touch the 7 vote record for a looooong time.

My Bracket: Frog
My Vote: Riku
My Prediction: Frog with 58.02%
From: Tediz247 | Posted: 7/23/2005 12:10:42 PM | Message Detail
Hmm... I think that this is the biggest victory anyone has ever had over an RPG character. Great job, Samus.
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From: Master Moltar | Posted: 7/23/2005 12:10:51 PM | Message Detail
Tnote’s Analysis

One of my favorite characters ever made an amazing splash into the SC2k4, winning his first two matches by less than 200 combined votes, and then followed it up with keeping a Noble-Nine member under 53%. Sadly, Frog did not get a very favorable draw, as he drew a crappy 5-seed, and arguably the strongest character outside of the Clinkeroth.

I liked Kingdom Hearts more than most, but the ridiculous GBA release of CoM will definitely affect Riku’s strength. CoM is a wonderful game, but there are probably many people who did not get the chance to play it because not every PS2 owner has a GBA. Riku was pretty good in KH, but CoM really expands on his character, and I think KH2 will vault him into one of my favorite video game characters. Sadly, he also got a crap draw, as his primary fanbase more than likely overlaps with the Shakespearean Amphibian, and if Aeris/Sora was any indication, this could get really ugly. I think we will not see a doubling, but the end result, much like with Sora, will vastly underestimate the damage Riku could do in this setting against a non-RPG opponent.

Pick: Frog with 62.83%



Vlado’s Analysis

Finally, another interesting one. With Frog's incredible performance last year, it seems rather easy, but there are complications. I think that Solid Snake's horrible picture played an important role in the match that determined Frog's position in the X-Stats, so Frog is probably a bit weaker than the stats suggest. And I think he may have grown a little weaker than last year, though Chrono Trigger characters seem to always perform at a solid level.

Another important question here is whether Riku could assume the role of a Kingdom Hearts Auron and surpass the main character's popularity. My answer to this is "No". I'm certain that Riku will be weaker than Sora and they'll have more of a Crono-Magus relationship than Tidus-Auron, stats-wise. I expect Riku to be around Ryu Hayabusa's level in the stats. Which suggests a rather easy victory for Frog. Anyway, the Kingdom Hearts II hype also shouldn't be ignored. It could make both Sora and Riku a bit stronger, but I don't think it will be a very big factor.

While I expect Frog to be weaker and Kingdom Hearts to be stronger than last year, I think that it will not be enough to close the gap and Frog will take this one without much trouble. I doubt the SFF that will inevitably occur will be big enough to make this into a blowout, though.

Predicted percentage: Frog with 63.73%.
From: RockMFR 5 | Posted: 7/23/2005 12:14:37 PM | Message Detail
I predicted 87.1% on Samus last night. It's damn close to that.
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From: Lucid Faia | Posted: 7/23/2005 12:26:18 PM | Message Detail
I predicted 87.1% on Samus last night. It's damn close to that.

88.1% would have been a closer pick. I think Samus will end with over 88% of the vote.

Oh, and Go Bucks.

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My Video Game World Records: http://www.twingalaxies.com/index.aspx?c=22&p=35289
From: Sir Crono | Posted: 7/23/2005 12:44:40 PM | Message Detail
Just for curiosity's sake, Samus has gotten 89.12% of the votes in the last hour.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Contest 2005 Championship
Round 1: (7) Geno
From: voltch | Posted: 7/23/2005 12:47:25 PM | Message Detail
so big boss got his old man's pic hey?
so what are people expecting from him now.
i can't believe i picked him to beat auron and ganondorf. now what was i thinking
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Kilroy:There fate will be in each other's hands as they decide whether to share or to shaft
From: Lopen | Posted: 7/23/2005 12:50:22 PM | Message Detail
I'm calling it, Frog/Riku is gonna be a nail-biter tomorrow. Frog will win with a mere 51% of the vote.
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Raiden fact of the contest: Alucard is a plagiarist, this year Raiden will prove it!
From: Sir Crono | Posted: 7/23/2005 12:50:45 PM | Message Detail
Well, Frog is the new age Donkey Kong...
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Contest 2005 Championship
Round 1: (7) Geno
From: RPGuy96 | Posted: 7/23/2005 12:52:27 PM | Message Detail
I don't think Frog is going to break 60% on Riku, but it's still not going to be close. Sora would give Frog a 51% style match, but Riku's no Auron.
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From: The n00b Avenger | Posted: 7/23/2005 12:54:49 PM | Message Detail
Maybe Riku will benefit from the "Rikku?" votes. Heh
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From: Shadowdude II | Posted: 7/23/2005 1:07:47 PM | Message Detail
If there were any justice, Riku and Rikku would get a combined 34% in their round one matches.
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From: Sir Crono | Posted: 7/23/2005 1:08:26 PM | Message Detail
And all 34% of it would be gotten by Riku.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Contest 2005 Championship
Round 1: (7) Geno
From: Rodri316 | Posted: 7/23/2005 1:08:31 PM | Message Detail
Tomorrow will be another overlooked nailbiter, much like Ness vs. CJ was. I hope Frog can take it, but if he does, I don't see him getting more than 55%.
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Summer 2005 Contest -- Current Score: 3/4
Today's Prediction -- Samus Aran vs. Yuri Hyuga
From: Kaxon | Posted: 7/23/2005 1:20:31 PM | Message Detail
And all 34% of it would be gotten by Rikku.

Fixed.
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SpC2K5 First Vote Champion
Current Score: 2/3 | Today: Lloyd over Wesker
From: Sir Crono | Posted: 7/23/2005 1:22:00 PM | Message Detail
No, it's not fixed. Rikku doesn't deserve so much as a single vote against Ryu.

Not that she's bad or anything. Ryu is just that awesome.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Contest 2005 Championship
Round 1: (7) Geno
From: voltch | Posted: 7/23/2005 1:37:27 PM | Message Detail
who thinks that the names of the characters can barely be read out since characters are blocking somes letters. i'm sure some people don't know the names of both characters are almost unreadable and then vote on who looks best.
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Kilroy:There fate will be in each other's hands as they decide whether to share or to shaft
From: Tediz247 | Posted: 7/23/2005 1:55:12 PM | Message Detail
Samus Aran 87.5% 49719
Yuri Hyuga 12.5% 7104
TOTAL VOTES 56823
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From: Dilated Chemist | Posted: 7/23/2005 1:56:59 PM | Message Detail
Daaayuuum.

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From: I_Dont_Love_You | Posted: 7/23/2005 1:57:34 PM | Message Detail
who thinks that the names of the characters can barely be read out since characters are blocking somes letters. i'm sure some people don't know the names of both characters are almost unreadable and then vote on who looks best.

...What the ****.
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From: King Morgoth | Posted: 7/23/2005 1:59:30 PM | Message Detail
who thinks that the names of the characters can barely be read out since characters are blocking somes letters. i'm sure some people don't know the names of both characters are almost unreadable and then vote on who looks best.

If they can't read the names, they don't know which one to pick to vote. Paradox'd
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SpC2k4 Triple Crown WINNER (Oracle, Betting, Spread Betting)
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From: RPGuy96 | Posted: 7/23/2005 1:59:51 PM | Message Detail
Yuri is down below Ulala now. He's still a bit above Giygas, though, so he's not the weakest RPG character ever. And I think that Yuri is going to do respectably with the night vote (like, back down to 86 and change for Samus).
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From: dethfdddddh | Posted: 7/23/2005 2:11:30 PM | Message Detail
But the names are right down there by the vote button thingies....
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Volgin is one sexy beast....
From: Janus5000 | Posted: 7/23/2005 2:12:22 PM | Message Detail
SEPTUPLE'D
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The King of all Cosmos' route to summer victory:
Round 1: (4) Tidus... LET ME DREAM :
From: Shadow Doom Blaze | Posted: 7/23/2005 2:31:01 PM | Message Detail
The immaturity is killing me..

God damn, you're a hypocrite. Go the hell away.

~*ST*~
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Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest
"If my fate is to be destroyed... I must simply laugh!" -Magus
From: Mister Mario | Posted: 7/23/2005 2:31:53 PM | Message Detail
RPGuy96

like, back down to 86 and change for Samus

wtf bias
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Mario is Winnar
Next victim: Master Ness
From: SonicRaptor | Posted: 7/23/2005 2:35:57 PM | Message Detail
I just have one question here: who here thinks Solid Snake is going to absolutely kill Manny Calavera? As in, get over 90% on the guy? I enjoyed LucasArts adventure games as much as the next guy...but something in the back of my head fears he'll be the next Tanner.
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Today's subliminal thought is:
From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 7/23/2005 2:36:23 PM | Message Detail
I think Snake could threaten 95% again.

~*ST*~
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Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest
"If my fate is to be destroyed... I must simply laugh!" -Magus
From: Mister Mario | Posted: 7/23/2005 2:37:54 PM | Message Detail
I know I'm going to vote Manny, to try and keep it below 90%. Snake doesn't deserve massive blowouts.
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Mario is Winnar
Next victim: Master Ness
From: RPGuy96 | Posted: 7/23/2005 2:38:29 PM | Message Detail
Hey, my Oracle prediction for Samus is 86%. I need to get back into first after a bad day yesterday.

And I don't think Manny is going to be much weaker than Guybrush, and 2k4 Guybrush would get 15.95% on 20XXDF Snake. 90% isn't out of the question, but I would doubt it.
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"Luca Blight's insane. He's a wolf raised on the smell of fire and the taste of blood."" ~ Viktor, Suikoden II
From: Sir Crono | Posted: 7/23/2005 2:39:19 PM | Message Detail
I don't see Manny being stronger than Guybrush (or at least significantly), so Snake could threaten 90%.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Contest 2005 Championship
Round 1: (7) Geno
From: Draco1214 | Posted: 7/23/2005 2:40:42 PM | Message Detail
In my Oracle Challenge prediction I have Solid Snake over Manny with 90.54%.
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Summer 2005 Contest - 4/5 points
Current Match Prediction: Riku vs. Frog
From: Heroic Viktor | Posted: 7/23/2005 2:41:17 PM | Message Detail
I have 88.27% RPGuy, so you are just going to have to wait a few days to get back 1st place =)

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RIP: Tnote827 - 4/4/2005
SC2k5 - 5/5 (empty slots in brackets suck)
From: Keno316 | Posted: 7/23/2005 2:42:24 PM | Message Detail
Well Well! Samus is definitely a beast. Granted, we don't know how strong Yuri really was before hand, but its still impressive to see Samus destroy characters none the less. And keep them under five digits to boot. Really does make me question my Crono over Samus pick...but then again, we don't really know where Yuri stands and we won't know Crono's strength for a while until he gets past all his SFF fest. Well, guess its still to be seen...
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From: RPGuy96 | Posted: 7/23/2005 2:42:39 PM | Message Detail
Guybrush would need to be capable of more than doubling Manny (68.54%, specifically) for 20XXDF Snake to break 90%. That would also make Manny the fifth worst character ever, ahead of only Serious Sam, Ms. Pac Man, Mr. Driller, and Tanner.
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"Luca Blight's insane. He's a wolf raised on the smell of fire and the taste of blood."" ~ Viktor, Suikoden II
From: dragoontheguy | Posted: 7/23/2005 2:45:09 PM | Message Detail
I really hope that Manny isn't that incredibly weak. Then again, Manny isn't exactly the most photogenic of characters.
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