KOS-MOS would be expected to get 72% on Wesker. Why can't Lloyd do that and then some?
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Round 1: (7) Geno

Statistically? We don't have any stats on Lloyd...

I meant statistically as in Mithos is projected to get almost 59% on Wesker, and Lloyd (logically) is supposed to be much stronger than Mithos.

The two kind of tie in with each other.
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Zero vs. Ryu H. - Bracket: Zero - Vote: Zero (1/2)

1. Jill is also under-rated in the 2004 stats, which is good news to the people who believe she couldn't have fallen so far.

Didn't Ryu get his DOA pic against Jill as well?
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"Heh Heh... The wind... It is blowing..."--Ganondorf Dragmire

Well I tend to adjust Wesker through Luca Blight to avoid Kefka's unusual picture advantage that will never reflect his contest strength again. Meaning KOS-MOS would only be projected to come short of a doubling.
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I might be wrong but isn't KOS-MOS from Xenogears?


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My biggest predictions: Mario over Samus, Alucard over Sora, Magus over Dante.

KOS-MOS is from Xenosaga. Same timeline, different company (Namco, not Square).
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Contest 2005 Championship
Round 1: (7) Geno

Xenosaga

It's not a Square game, but it spawned from Square. Which definitely has a hand in KOS-MOS's performance.
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Well clearly it was because I did intend the pun =p

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Sp2k5 - 77/80 (stupid Master Hand)

If Wesker wins, I will suicide with Joy.
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"[Zelos] clearly should be writing in his book of dark poetry and slitting his wrists with a cruxis crystal - meisnewbie

You know, after seeing how well Ness has done for himself with Smash Brothers behind him, anybody wonder how well Marth or Roy could do?
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Contest 2005 Championship
Round 1: (7) Geno

They'd beat CJ, that's for damn sure. >_<
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Board 8: Where people treat each other right.

Marth would get anti-voted to hell and back for being "Cheap".
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"[Zelos] clearly should be writing in his book of dark poetry and slitting his wrists with a cruxis crystal - meisnewbie

I just hope Ceej doesn't use Xenosaga 2 KOSMOS for the pic. Her chances of beating Luigi are already small as it is. That pic would ensure one of the worsts beatings she'd ever take....
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"Opinions are like butts, little girl. Everyone's got one and nobody thinks their's stink." -Lunar 2:EB
*Claims KG's Eclair & Millia Rage*

I doubt it, in fact he might do better than Ness because he's cheap. Heh heh.
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Raiden fact of the contest: Alucard is a plagiarist, this year Raiden will prove it!

I'm not familiar with Fire Emblem, but who would be more popular with that fanbase? Have they been featured in a game that was actually released stateside?
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Contest 2005 Championship
Round 1: (7) Geno

I don't think so. The North American fanbase would know them exclusively through Melee.
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Board 8: Where people treat each other right.

At the 12:30 mark, this match has 53,714 votes.

Mario/Joanna Dark: 58,837
Ness/CJ: 58,976

Way behind now. Matter of fact, Ness is only 2000 votes behind what Zero has right now despite the disparity in the closeness of their matches.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Contest 2005 Championship
Round 1: (7) Geno

Another crumb of evidence in the "Nintendo has increased" theory.
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Board 8: Where people treat each other right.

Eh, I was joking, Earthbound would put Ness over Marth. I'm just saying that if it were only Super Smash Bros fans voting, Marth could quite probably pull out a victory. A slim one (because Ness is also pretty popular in that game... mainly the first), but a victory nonetheless.
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Raiden fact of the contest: Alucard is a plagiarist, this year Raiden will prove it!

I'm thinking the Melee fanbase would easily favor Marth or Roy over Ness. Whereas Ness is a goofy kid with a cap and yo-yo, Marth and Roy are actually damn cool and pretty good in play (especially Marth, of course). The Earthbound fanbase coupled with his status in the original Smash would give Ness the victory, but it would be pretty close.
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Board 8: Where people treat each other right.

Personally, I'd like to see Captain Falcon make the contest. I doubt he'd be as strong as Ness because Earthbound > F-Zero, but he's a solid SSB character...so you never know.
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ALL YOUR VOTES ARE BELONG TO...Pac-Man?

Exactly, if Ness wasn't in the original Smash Bros I would've given the thumbs up to Marth in that one, just because he'd probably "SFF" his Melee support away.
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Raiden fact of the contest: Alucard is a plagiarist, this year Raiden will prove it!

Marth and Roy are actually damn cool and pretty good in play

Roy is a waste of space in that game, and don't even try arguing otherwise.

~*ST*~
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"If my fate is to be destroyed... I must simply laugh!" -Magus

Roy's best feature is that when I'm Kirby I can take his Flare Blade attack.
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Raiden fact of the contest: Alucard is a plagiarist, this year Raiden will prove it!

I won't argue with a guy who knows more about the game, but I thought Roy was at least better than Ness...
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Board 8: Where people treat each other right.

That being said, I'd probably take Marth over Captain Falcon. I don't think F-Zero would be quite enough to overcome the SFF.
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Raiden fact of the contest: Alucard is a plagiarist, this year Raiden will prove it!

Roy is a waste of space in that game, and don't even try arguing otherwise.

TEH FIRE > you
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"Those whose memories fade seek to carve them in their hearts..."
"All dreams are but another reality. Never forget..."

Pichu is a waste of space in that game, and don't even try arguing otherwise.

Corrected.
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Zero vs. Ryu H. - Bracket: Zero - Vote: Zero (1/2)

My Lloyd/Wesker Prediction: 69%

Kefka overperformed, but Wersker is incredibly weak.

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Girls throw themselves at him like prostitutes left and right, yet the only girl Cloud wants or cares about throughout the entire game is Sephiroth.- Ulti

I nominated both marth and roy because of SSBM.

Roy is a waste of space because he's the same as marth.. but worse.

Roy is a waste of space in that game, and don't even try arguing otherwise.

He's at least useful on single player. You can easily abuse the AI in the game with him... even at level 9. It's pathetic actually. But he is the person I used to get the Master Hand and Crazy Hand trophies, if nothing more than easy KOs during the Kirby and Pokemon stages.

Not saying you can't do it with anyone else... just mentioning the ease that you can do it with Roy.
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Roy is a waste of space in that game, and don't even try arguing otherwise.

You win. It should've been Celice, dammit.
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Well, when the parents are away... brother and sister can play...
http://www.freewebs.com/mjversion/index.htm

I'm surprised at how highly some people regard Lloyd. I know this is GameFAQs, but I still can't picture him being mainstream enough to capture 70% of the vote.
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ALL YOUR VOTES ARE BELONG TO...Pac-Man?

I'm really looking forward to tomorrow's match. you can say that TOS is the wildcard in this year's contest, and after this match we'll have a better read on Kratos/Diablo. if Lloyd doesn't win with 70% or more, my pick of Kratos over Diablo is pretty much shot.

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He's at least useful on single player. You can easily abuse the AI in the game with him... even at level 9. It's pathetic actually.

How does that help you to become a better player? Charging a smash or the Flare Blade against the AI teaches you some very bad habits.

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Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest
"If my fate is to be destroyed... I must simply laugh!" -Magus

I'm surprised at how highly some people regard Lloyd. I know this is GameFAQs, but I still can't picture him being mainstream enough to capture 70% of the vote.

KOS-MOS is projected to get 72% on Wesker. Being mainstream isn't a requirement to break 70% on Wesker.
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"Those whose memories fade seek to carve them in their hearts..."
"All dreams are but another reality. Never forget..."

It's very hard to make a fair comparison of KOS-MOS to Wesker, because he got MATCH PIC'D by Kefka, and Luca's 2k4 figure is anyone's guess. But even if KOS-MOS could hit 70% on Wesker (which I doubt would happen), I can't imagine Lloyd doing the same. At least KOS-MOS is cute; Lloyd looks like a generic male lead. It's not the most inspiring thing I've ever seen. Besides, if the vote totals land in the 90,000 range tomorrow, then Lloyd needs to bring in 63,000+ of them to make the 70% mark...I don't know, I just can't picture that happening.
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ALL YOUR VOTES ARE BELONG TO...Pac-Man?

BTW anybodu know how many copies of Xenosaga 1&2 sold in North America?
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"Those whose memories fade seek to carve them in their hearts..."
"All dreams are but another reality. Never forget..."

you know, I don't get the argument that TOS isn't "mainstream". it's #13 in the faqs and came out like 2 years ago; in comparison, FF10 is #7 and FFX-2 is #25. it's the second most popular RPG of this generation. not being made by Square is the only argument I've seen that even remotely makes sense and I don't think your average fan is that blindly loyal to one company.
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TRE, I think it's like 450k / 250k or so.

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From: Kaxon | Posted: 7/21/2005 4:32:34 AM | Message Detail
I nominate creativename for best post ever in the stats topic.

Thank you :)

From: ChichiriMuyo | Posted: 7/21/2005 5:05:23 AM | Message Detail
Wait, you're putting the Count that low? You suck.

Well, Grover is my personal favorite, and I had him at the bottom.


No real need to analyze Zero underperformance, when it was expected by so many after the match pic was seen.


I think that Marth and Roy would do pretty decent here. I could see them challenging Jak/CJ, for instance. I'd guess 16%-21% on Link for them.

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1) This month marks the one year anniversary of T.O.S. in the U.S.
2) While sales figures will obviously go up over time, Tales still significantly trails FFX, FFX-2, Kingdom Hearts, Fable, Animal Crossing, and Dark Cloud in this generation. I don't think it's even matched Shenmue or Xenosage Episode I yet, so...it's not exactly a superstar title.
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ALL YOUR VOTES ARE BELONG TO...Pac-Man?

http://boards.gamefaqsascii.com/genmessage.php?board=5552&topic=24223

Holy friggin' crap...those are awesome.
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Oh, and Paper Mario should be on that list too. I always forget about Paper Mario. :(
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ALL YOUR VOTES ARE BELONG TO...Pac-Man?

2) While sales figures will obviously go up over time, Tales still significantly trails FFX, FFX-2, Kingdom Hearts, Fable, Animal Crossing, and Dark Cloud in this generation. I don't think it's even matched Shenmue or Xenosage Episode I yet, so...it's not exactly a superstar title.

ToS has sold around 300k in North America so far. That's not a superstar performance, but it's good enough to do well. Being as strong as KOS-MOS isn't exactly a spectacularly high goal either.
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"Those whose memories fade seek to carve them in their hearts..."
"All dreams are but another reality. Never forget..."

I've placed a link to that topic on my main page.
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ToS is at more than 1 million worldwide.

Pretty damn good, and essentialy better at a Game:Console ratio than some of those PS2 RPGs you mentioned,
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Mario is Winnar
Next victim: Master Ness

I hope that Ryu gains enough votes to get 1% on Zero. I'll get first in the Oracle contest for sure. Go Ryu! (Just one more percent!)
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Yoshifan scorecard: Next Match: Zero Vs. Ryu Hayabusa: 62.26%
Points: Oracle:61.02/100.00 Contest:2/2

Grover is my favourite, too. screw Snuffalupagus.

I'd say that the "TOS population" resides at GameFAQs and thus would overperform compared to its sales figure. a lot of the people who bought Xenosaga didn't like it, and that's evidenced by the second episode selling half as well. I'd take Lloyd over KOS-MOS, though KOS-MOS does have the whole Chick Android With a Big Gun thing.
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Now THIS is what I like to see:

http://img75.echo.cx/img75/8269/auronbigboss0yi.jpgi
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Next victim: Master Ness