If CJ doesn't get the afternoon and night vote push most of us expect him to, he may end up looking as weak or weaker than Jak. I absolutely refuse to believe a GTA main can be that weak, crappy picture or not. Couple that with the fact that Nintendo has impressed everyone twice in two days, and I like where this is going. =)
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Board 8: Where people treat each other right.

Calm down Sage.... it's not like we didn't see this coming. CJ had a bunch of possible factors against him anyways.

It's apparent that GTA may have a lot of fans and players, but that still doesn't overcome the fact that they don't like CJ, his image, and the whole gangsta persona. They probably just didn't let that stop them from buying and playing a popular GTA game. GTA is known for the gameplay anyways, so it would be ridiculous for people not to buy it just because they don't like the main character.
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Graduation: April 30, 2005 "There are only 10 kinds of people in this world, those that read binary and those that don't."

Static Mario:
90 Laharl 15.65
91 Ultros 15.30
92 Iori Yagami 14.98
92.5 Joanna Dark 14.75
93 Albedo Piasora 14.68
94 Q*Bert 14.58
95 Sigma 14.21

Ness-through-Tails:
54 Fox McCloud 21.83
55 Bomberman 21.65
56 Viewtiful Joe 21.56
56.5 Carl Johnson 21.35
57 Dr. Wily 21.27
58 Nemesis 21.20
59 Jak 21.08

Ness-through-Scorpion:
49 M. Bison 23.26
50 Kefka 22.72
51 Ryu Hayabusa 22.68
51.5 Carl Johnson 22.39
52 Ramza Beoulve 22.31
53 Kasumi 22.17
54 Fox McCloud 21.83

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"Luca Blight's insane. He's a wolf raised on the smell of fire and the taste of blood."" ~ Viktor, Suikoden II

No he does not..this is a disgrace..an insult...where are the 4 million plus peeps who bought GTA San Andreas??? Where are they now, when their boy CJ needs them? Why are they making me look bad and costing me a point on the 2nd freaking day...

Yes, he does. Are you telling me an average gangster deserves to win more than perhaps the most infallible hero in the history of video games? The only other character that can rival the sheer fortitude and determination of Ness is probably the Dragon Quest V hero. Despite all of the **** that both go through, neither one of them can be broken. Ever. And you're trying to tell me that a ****ing criminal deserves to win more than Ness? Give me a break.

In my eyes, EarthBound is the most popular game ever that can still be called "cult." Ness is leaps and bounds ahead of guys like The King Of All Cosmos, Manny Calavera, Vyse, and Laharl in terms of popularity, and even moreso in terms of character. Guys like Auron and Bowser weren't underestimated; EarthBound was underestimated. It always has been, because it is considered a cult game. But look at the facts: EarthBound had a respectable performance in the 2004 Spring Contest against one of the most well-known and recognizable games of all time, the game that popularized the FPS genre, Doom. Ness has won two matches, against Jak and Carl Johnson, both of whom are considered to be modern-day, mainstream icons. Obviously, being modern and mainstream isn't enough. We may as well refer to Jak and CJ as Who Cares V2 and Not Ness, because that's what they are. Show some respect for the Unlikely Protector Of The Earth. :)

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2nd Place, Spring Contest 2005
My Video Game World Records: http://www.twingalaxies.com/index.aspx?c=22&p=35289

Ness has won two matches, against Jak and Carl Johnson, both of whom are considered to be modern-day, mainstream icons.

Here's to going overboard! Huzzah!
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Board 8: Where people treat each other right.

OMFG. CJ is losing. Not to worry. The day vote will kill Ness.
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Summer 2005 Contest - 1/1 point
Current Match Prediction: Ness vs. Carl Johnson

Here's to going overboard! Huzzah!

Not icons in general, of course. But they are among the most popular characters that are "modern" and "mainstream," the most popular of them being Master Chief.

By the way, even after all this time, I still laugh every time I see your sig.

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2nd Place, Spring Contest 2005
My Video Game World Records: http://www.twingalaxies.com/index.aspx?c=22&p=35289

=P
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Board 8: Where people treat each other right.

There goes my short-lived place on the leaderboard.
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Summer 2005 Contest - 1/1 point
Current Match Prediction: Ness vs. Carl Johnson

well this match alone is providing more than a quarter of the excitement of 2004 we can look forward to a really good contest from now on
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Kilroy:There fate will be in each other's hands as they decide whether to share or to shaft

No, 2004 wasn;t that bad, Jill/Ryu and especially Frog/MC made it bareable.
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"[Zelos] clearly should be writing in his book of dark poetry and slitting his wrists with a cruxis crystal - meisnewbie

CJ can and will come back.
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Summer 2005 Contest - 1/1 point
Current Match Prediction: Ness vs. Carl Johnson

Ness 54.76% 21904
Carl Johnson 45.24% 18096
TOTAL VOTES 40000

Deep hurting for CJ.

ryu vs jill and mc vs frog was equal to roughly half the excitement we ever got out of sc2k4 i mean we had so many SFF filled matches

on a side note how many suicides are expected because of todays results
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Kilroy:There fate will be in each other's hands as they decide whether to share or to shaft

This match is soooo over.

But I really don't get all the whining. It's one damned point.

~*ST*~
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Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest
"If my fate is to be destroyed... I must simply laugh!" -Magus

Even though I lose a point, I'm happy Ness wins. He's awesome.
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Summer 2005 Contest - 1/1 point
Current Match Prediction: Ness vs. Carl Johnson

My favorite part of the whining is people claiming that CJ is a better character than Ness. Another part I like is how some of these people cry, "Play GTA, fanboys," while they have never played EarthBound. Having thoroughly beaten both EarthBound and Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas, I can assure you all that Carl Johnson isn't one eighth that character that Ness is.

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2nd Place, Spring Contest 2005
My Video Game World Records: http://www.twingalaxies.com/index.aspx?c=22&p=35289

Ness 54.85% 22614
Carl Johnson 45.15% 18612
TOTAL VOTES 41226

Ness opens it up to 4000. CJ is officially MR SATURN'D.

I refuse to ever pick Ness in a match off of principle alone. I also picked Jak last year even though I figured Ness would probably win. The same point that cost me a prize, but I'd rather go against Ness than to win a prize on here.

Ness may be the single character I dislike the most EVER in a contest. Even Sephiroth.... At least I actually LIKE the game that Sephiroth is in. I can't think of one person who's been in a contest that I would vote Ness over.... <_<
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Graduation: April 30, 2005 "There are only 10 kinds of people in this world, those that read binary and those that don't."

If I wind up whining (which I hope I don't do), it's 'cuz of my bracket and nothing else; I threw a vote to Ness, though I don't really care 'bout either of 'em. He got my vote for owning all in SSB, so, yeah...

...and CJ's gettin' his ass stomped. I feel like I had Ness pegged fine, it just now looks like I over-estimated CJ. Damn.


As a funny side-note, I'll never get a perfect first round, I've decided; I always miss the first controversial match. Squall/Jill, DK/DH, Tidus/Shadow, and now Ness/CJ.
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Hillary Clinton: We need to treat violence in video games like we treat tobacco and alcohol.
Lewis Black: Namely as valued contributors to our reelection fund.

Sam Fisher vs Donkey Kong will be close :(
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May 05 NPD Sales - PSP - 250k. DS - 57k.
PSP trumps DS by 4.38x in sales for the month of May.

Pft. Ness is a better character than CJ.

This is coming from someone who has owned EB since 1995, and GTA:SA since "November To Remember" 2004, someone who has beaten both games completely, and someone who is twenty years old. It's not a matter of something being for kids or not being credible; Ness really IS the better character.

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2nd Place, Spring Contest 2005
My Video Game World Records: http://www.twingalaxies.com/index.aspx?c=22&p=35289

Unless CJ really picks it up it looks like Ness has it in the bag. Yippee.

I want to play Earthbound now...
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SCIV Score: 1/1 Today's Pick: Ness vs. CJ
Wouldn't it just suck if I screwed it up on the second day?

Ok so can someone explain this match to me using stats before hand?

I guess CJ is = his villain.

Go figure..
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Sir Chris, Chief of Police at Board 8
Board 8: Where yoblazer is king of gurus.

Methinks Earthbound exposure's gonna go up after this match, heh.
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Hillary Clinton: We need to treat violence in video games like we treat tobacco and alcohol.
Lewis Black: Namely as valued contributors to our reelection fund.

Joy. Another year, another contest where we will, once again, have no solid X-stat value for Ness. Predicting him next year is gonna be a pain.
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I need to put something here.

From: Tequilla Gundam | Posted: 7/20/2005 12:48:13 PM | #321
Sam Fisher vs Donkey Kong will be close :(

You're kidding, right?
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SC2K5 status - Points: 001/001 - Matches: 01/01 - Rank: 00001/33793 - Today: CJ - Tomorrow: Zero

Is anyone else weirded out by the idea of Ness topping 50,000 votes?
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ALL YOUR VOTES ARE BELONG TO...Pac-Man?

Ok so can someone explain this match to me using stats before hand?

http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/detail.php?board=8&topic=22295057&message=241862875

Something like that?
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"Luca Blight's insane. He's a wolf raised on the smell of fire and the taste of blood."" ~ Viktor, Suikoden II

Oh, and if people are blowing up over this, I can't wait to see what happens when Zelda goes down to Vivi. :-P
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ALL YOUR VOTES ARE BELONG TO...Pac-Man?

man why do gta main characters always screw me over.
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Kilroy:There fate will be in each other's hands as they decide whether to share or to shaft

*1 Month Ago*

Me ~ Ness vs CJ will be close.

Slowflake ~ You're kidding, right? CJ has * goes on for post long reasons of why CJ will win*
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May 05 NPD Sales - PSP - 250k. DS - 57k.
PSP trumps DS by 4.38x in sales for the month of May.

From: Tequilla Gundam | Posted: 7/20/2005 1:01:00 PM | #332
*1 Month Ago*

Me ~ Ness vs CJ will be close.

Slowflake ~ You're kidding, right? CJ has * goes on for post long reasons of why CJ will win*

You're wrong. I had nothing except gut instinct.
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SC2K5 status - Points: 001/001 - Matches: 01/01 - Rank: 00001/33793 - Today: CJ - Tomorrow: Zero

I really started to get a bad feeling about this match last night when I realized that Vercetti and Ness were closer in the stats than I thought. I figured there was more leeway for CJ than there actually was.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Contest 2005 Championship
Round 1: (7) Geno

I'm not sure if this bodes good or ill for Kefka against Vercetti. What do you guys think?
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"Thank you, Mario. But our princess is in another castle."
-Toad in Super Mario Bros.

*shrugs* I've stuck with it being a close match for awhile now. Doesn't matter though, really, 'cuz I got the wrong winner and it's not all that close.
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Hillary Clinton: We need to treat violence in video games like we treat tobacco and alcohol.
Lewis Black: Namely as valued contributors to our reelection fund.

From what I understand, Vercetti is a lot more likeable than CJ. I wouldn't worry too much.
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SC2K5 status - Points: 001/001 - Matches: 01/01 - Rank: 00001/33793 - Today: CJ - Tomorrow: Zero

I realized there wasn't much leeway for CJ; I just expected him to still be close enough to Vercetti despite not having much leeway.
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Hillary Clinton: We need to treat violence in video games like we treat tobacco and alcohol.
Lewis Black: Namely as valued contributors to our reelection fund.

At the 10:00 mark, this match has 43,192 votes. At the same time, Mario/Joanna Dark had 43,007. Almost identical.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Contest 2005 Championship
Round 1: (7) Geno

From: Slowflake | Posted: 7/20/2005 11:02:08 AM | Message Detail | #333
From: Tequilla Gundam | Posted: 7/20/2005 1:01:00 PM | #332
*1 Month Ago*

Me ~ Ness vs CJ will be close.

Slowflake ~ You're kidding, right? CJ has * goes on for post long reasons of why CJ will win*

You're right. Let me make up some bull**** excuse to cover my failure.
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May 05 NPD Sales - PSP - 250k. DS - 57k.
PSP trumps DS by 4.38x in sales for the month of May.

The GTA fans played EarthBound and realized it was a far superior game to anything named Grand Theft Auto. Forget the excellent multiplayer in GTA2, the awesome city in GTA3, the music in VC, and the gameplay in SA. EB is better than all of them combined, and Ness really does deserve to win this match.

Please. If not for SSB/SSBM, Ness would be getting his ass kicked. One cult game from a decade ago does not a strong character make.
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"Thank you, Mario. But our princess is in another castle."
-Toad in Super Mario Bros.

I think it bodes well for Kefka, as this match shows a mainstream character that's much weaker than expected. After this, I fully expect Vercetti to be weaker than he was last year, so I think Kefka could take him.
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"Luca Blight's insane. He's a wolf raised on the smell of fire and the taste of blood."" ~ Viktor, Suikoden II

Vercetti still has to weaken quite a bit for Kefka to be able to upset him. He was constant from 2003 to 2004. I wouldn't expect a big drop from him.
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Squall Leonhart's Road to the Summer Contest 2005 Championship
Round 1: (7) Geno

Ness 55% 24417
Carl Johnson 45% 19981
TOTAL VOTES 44398

Ness really IS the better character.

Ness is a mute with a baseball bat who is winning based soley on the strength of the Nintendo fanboy's haven known as Super Smash Bros. Melee, and the fact that *gasp* his opponent is black.

CJ is an infinately more developed, interesting character. For you to say that Ness is the better character with such confidence only makes me wonder if you know what "character" is.

Oh well, its only one point though. It'll be nice to see the Italian Stallion ass rape this little punk come round 2.

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5/18/05
Never forget. Never forgive.

You people are joking right? Kefka is going to rock Vercetti's world.

Dues is taking this... a lot better then I expected.
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"[Zelos] clearly should be writing in his book of dark poetry and slitting his wrists with a cruxis crystal - meisnewbie

I knew this would happen. It's good to see GTA fanboys commiting suicide all the time and whining that they're "boy" lost to Ness, but now I feel stupid for picking CJ. There was so much logic to go off for Ness, like Tenpenny not getting 30% against a borderline midcarder, and now, it seems Ness is just as mainstream as CJ and Jak, if not more. His game might not be, but it's obvious he's become something bigger.

Oh well, it's just one point, but I lost it because I didn't have balls. Some contest winner I deserve to be.

:-(
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I can't call Ness the better character as I haven't beaten SA. I just love the little guy.

~*ST*~
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Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best. Game. Ever." Contest
"If my fate is to be destroyed... I must simply laugh!" -Magus

Oh, and did you guys read this? http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20050720/tc_nm/media_grandtheftauto_dc


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