It's difficult to say if Knuckles went up or not due to being in 20XX. RPGuy's stats say he increased ever-so-slightly though.

Looking at this, Knuckles is about as consistent as they come. If we do have to deal with Magus getting SFF'd by Crono again, using Knux as a base could prove reliable.
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Yeah, I want to call Knuckles the most consistent character across all three summer contests, but I'm too lazy to check.
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"Luca Blight's insane. He's a wolf raised on the smell of fire and the taste of blood."" ~ Viktor, Suikoden II

He isnt. That award belong to none other than CATS.
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"Why would the boost from AC be bigger than those?" - Mac Arrowny
"Because (Heroic Mario) just replayed Final Fantasy VII." - Lucid Faia

Ryu's the one we call Captain Consistency, right?

Oh, and Mario's consistent in his losses, too. Just, not in his wins.
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SC2K5 status - Points: 000/000 - Matches: 00/00 - Rank: ?????/????? - Today: Mario - Tomorrow: CJ

That award belong to none other than CATS.

If the Villain Contest is a sign of anything and characters keep gettin' face-shots this round, that'll most likely change.
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Serious Reminder: Vote for Knuckles
Serious Reminder: Vote for Tifa Lockheart, too

CATS has the WDF and the Spring contest working against him. If you disregard both of those, then he wins.
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"Luca Blight's insane. He's a wolf raised on the smell of fire and the taste of blood."" ~ Viktor, Suikoden II

Well, if you include the Spring Contest, CATS remaining constant screws a lot of things up. Either way, Knuckles IS more consistent.

Knuckles: 26.89, 26.47, 26.74
CATS: 11.99, 13.52, 13.36
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For the record, Mr. Consistent Ryu looks like this: 31.20, 30.69, 32.77

Also keep in mind that Ryu's and CATS's first numbers are just guestimations.
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Mario 81% 76688
Joanna Dark 19% 17984
TOTAL VOTES 94672

Comeback, bay-bee.
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Serious Reminder: Vote for Knuckles
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Thats if you completely buy the WDF. Some of us dont.
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"Why would the boost from AC be bigger than those?" - Mac Arrowny
"Because (Heroic Mario) just replayed Final Fantasy VII." - Lucid Faia

20XXDF makes so little difference? I'd never have thought...

Don't be deceived by the seemingly small difference in the numbers. 20XX adjusted beats unadjusted by an almost exact 55/45 ratio.
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Also where you get Knuckles 2002 and 2004 numbers?? They dont match up at all with the calculated ones.
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"Why would the boost from AC be bigger than those?" - Mac Arrowny
"Because (Heroic Mario) just replayed Final Fantasy VII." - Lucid Faia

Thats if you completely buy the WDF. Some of us dont.

Forgive me if I don't buy Samus taking a sizable drop the summer after getting her first release in years.
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With good data across all three contests, the top 5 are (changes made to raw data in parenthesis):

1. Knuckles (0.42%, 2k2: Crono's cheat votes, 2k4: 20XXDF)
2. Mario (0.71%, 2k4: Arbitrarily static, used as base)
3. Scorpion(0.84%, 2k4: Adjusted by Auron-through-Tails)
4. Ryu (1.57%, 2k2: WDF)
5. Sonic (2.08%, 2k2: WDF)
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"Luca Blight's insane. He's a wolf raised on the smell of fire and the taste of blood."" ~ Viktor, Suikoden II

Scratch 2004 I forgot vs 2k3 Link. But what is up with 2002.
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"Why would the boost from AC be bigger than those?" - Mac Arrowny
"Because (Heroic Mario) just replayed Final Fantasy VII." - Lucid Faia

Also where you get Knuckles 2002 and 2004 numbers?? They dont match up at all with the calculated ones.

They're from RPGuy's all-time stats.
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Wouldn't Vercetti get the higher number regardless? He lost to Zero, and if there was no 20XXDF then Zero was likely SSF'd by Mega Man, so TV would be brought up anyway.

Scorpion just seems fishy to me. I have little reason to believe he stayed static over those three years.
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"Why would the boost from AC be bigger than those?" - Mac Arrowny
"Because (Heroic Mario) just replayed Final Fantasy VII." - Lucid Faia

So at this rate, how much percentage do you think Mario will have at the end of this match?
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That's right. Cloud N. Candy would get a NEGATIVE percentage, and RPGuy's extrapolated calculator would crash. - therealmnm

Around 81
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"Why would the boost from AC be bigger than those?" - Mac Arrowny
"Because (Heroic Mario) just replayed Final Fantasy VII." - Lucid Faia

What's wrong with Scorpion being consistent?
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Scratch 2004 I forgot vs 2k3 Link. But what is up with 2002.

Ceej said he recognized a sizeable amount of cheat votes in Mario/Crono I during SSBM/StarCraft. So I took the liberty of removing votes (I think it was 2000, might have been 1500) from Crono's total against Mario in 2k2. Since Knuckles lost to Snake who lost to Crono, this affects him a bit.
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"Luca Blight's insane. He's a wolf raised on the smell of fire and the taste of blood."" ~ Viktor, Suikoden II

People don't wanna believe it, mainly. I do think he took a minor drop in 2k4, but he should still be above where the 2k4 stats have him.
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Serious Reminder: Vote for Knuckles
Serious Reminder: Vote for Tifa Lockheart, too

My Oracle Challenge is at 80.35 so maybe I'm pretty near...
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That's right. Cloud N. Candy would get a NEGATIVE percentage, and RPGuy's extrapolated calculator would crash. - therealmnm

There is no reason to believe it. He doesnt receive hardly any boost from his most popular game in who knows how many years? We are saying Link got 3% out of thin air, but Scorpion cant even get a percent boost from that?
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"Why would the boost from AC be bigger than those?" - Mac Arrowny
"Because (Heroic Mario) just replayed Final Fantasy VII." - Lucid Faia

Anybody think Jak would beat Pac-Man?

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"Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun! So...what is a party?"
"Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think."

Anybody think Jak would beat Pac-Man?

I think Jak would keep it fairly close, but he'd end up losing. Then again, I think Ocelot/Pac-Man has upset potential, so what do I know.
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"Luca Blight's insane. He's a wolf raised on the smell of fire and the taste of blood."" ~ Viktor, Suikoden II

We are saying Link got 3% out of thin air, but Scorpion cant even get a percent boost from that?

Fighters aren't the most popular genre around here.
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We are saying Link got 3% out of thin air, but Scorpion cant even get a percent boost from that?

Link had several reasons to gain, it's just that we can't get everybody at once to listen to them. If we could, that lil' lie would stop.

Anybody think Jak would beat Pac-Man?

I'd do it, and I'd do it quick.
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Serious Reminder: Vote for Knuckles
Serious Reminder: Vote for Tifa Lockheart, too

Mario 81% 77081
Joanna Dark 19% 18083
TOTAL VOTES 95164

You think JD can gain .16% before it ends?

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Im not willing to admit that the Spring Contest stats are so wacked out that a character who is ranked above Kefka by more than a little can lose to someone Kefka beat. Also, since Pac-Man has taken a steady decline since 2003.
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"Why would the boost from AC be bigger than those?" - Mac Arrowny
"Because (Heroic Mario) just replayed Final Fantasy VII." - Lucid Faia

How much do you guys think Leon will get on Mega Man?

I think he'll get 35%, but I wouldn't be all that surprised if he broke 40%. He is the most underrated character in this contest.
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Summer 2005 Contest - 1/1 point
Current Match Prediction: Ness vs. Carl Johnson

What reasons?? Minnish Cap?

The only reason that makes any sense is E32004 changed a lot of people's opinion. And even then Mortal Kombat Deadly Alliance was the rebirth of a franchise which was well received and well sold.
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"Why would the boost from AC be bigger than those?" - Mac Arrowny
"Because (Heroic Mario) just replayed Final Fantasy VII." - Lucid Faia

30%. That's it.
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I don't think Leon's quite strong enough to break 40% on Mega Man. 35%-37% range might be feasible though.

Speaking of Mr. Kennedy, will this be the first year someone breaks 60% on Gordon?
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^That's a bit much. I'd guess around 30%.
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"It's actually quite emotional, standing up here with these three guys after all these years...

You think JD can gain .16% before it ends?

I was hoping for a .65% gain <__<

Heh. In all seriousness, I think she can.
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That's right. Cloud N. Candy would get a NEGATIVE percentage, and RPGuy's extrapolated calculator would crash. - therealmnm

Leon is so terribly underrated by everyone and I find that dissapointing. There are two games that fight over best RE game ever. Leon is the star of one and splits being the star in another. Resident Evil series has been reborn in many people's eyes. I can really see Leon = Dante.
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"Why would the boost from AC be bigger than those?" - Mac Arrowny
"Because (Heroic Mario) just replayed Final Fantasy VII." - Lucid Faia

Speaking of Mr. Kennedy, will this be the first year someone breaks 60% on Gordon?

Yes, maybe even 65%.
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Summer 2005 Contest - 1/1 point
Current Match Prediction: Ness vs. Carl Johnson

Anybody think Jak would beat Pac-Man?

By using a suggested theroy for Pac-Man, the strongest he can be is 49.48% against Jak and against Ocelot he would get 44.54%
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Meh, just 30% on Mega Man would put Leon right around Jill's 2004 range. I think he can do better than that. 35% would put him in the range of Yoshi, which is the peak of Ms. Valentine's contest popularity.
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Uhhh if Leon is even a percentage better than Jill he beats GF 69-31. If he is equal to Dante, 74-26.
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"Why would the boost from AC be bigger than those?" - Mac Arrowny
"Because (Heroic Mario) just replayed Final Fantasy VII." - Lucid Faia

Leon could be as strong, if not stronger than Claire. They're both in RE2, and Leon is more well-liked by the RE fanbase. Plus, Leon had a huge game out recently (RE4).
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Summer 2005 Contest - 1/1 point
Current Match Prediction: Ness vs. Carl Johnson

Uhhh if Leon is even a percentage better than Jill he beats GF 69-31. If he is equal to Dante, 74-26.

Man, sometimes I forget just how weak Gordon is.
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I'm surprised I even tried to debate about that match now.
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Bracket: Mario - Vote: Mario Points: 0/0 Rank: ?/?

Well in all fairness, our favorite unknown hero did get a new game that sold a copy or two. So if Leon underperforms those numbers, it really doesnt mean much.
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"Why would the boost from AC be bigger than those?" - Mac Arrowny
"Because (Heroic Mario) just replayed Final Fantasy VII." - Lucid Faia

From: LeonhartForever | Posted: 7/20/2005 12:04:01 AM | #294
Uhhh if Leon is even a percentage better than Jill he beats GF 69-31. If he is equal to Dante, 74-26.

Man, sometimes I forget just how weak Gordon is.

So true...
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Mario vs. Joanna - Bracket: Mario - Vote: Mario (0/0)

Reasons why Link 2k4 > Link 2k3:

1) Link was in Soul Calibur 2 on Gamecube versions.
2) LoZ: Collecter's Edition was packaged with Gamecubes suring the 2k3 Christmas season.
3a) LoZ:TP hype.
3b) No Wind Waker pics were used.

I bundled those last two together because those are arguable and I think they didn't affect enough to matter (I say this having argued for minor SFF in today's match, no less, heh). The first two reasons are plenty big.
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Serious Reminder: Vote for Knuckles
Serious Reminder: Vote for Tifa Lockheart, too

^Agreed
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Summer 2005 Contest - 1/1 point
Current Match Prediction: Ness vs. Carl Johnson

That was to LeonhartForever's comment.
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Summer 2005 Contest - 1/1 point
Current Match Prediction: Ness vs. Carl Johnson